Ulster U21 Draw 2013
Prelim Round: Fermanagh v Armagh.
Q'Finals: Tyrone v Donegal, Antrim v Derry, Cavan v Monaghan, Down v Prelim Rd winners
Dates, Times, Venues TBC
Good be home again in the U21 Championship. Hopefully make it 3 in a row of Ulster u21 titles.
Very good Tyrone team on paper for 2013 and heavy hitters added to the management ticket.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on October 11, 2012, 10:38:42 PM
Very good Tyrone team on paper for 2013 and heavy hitters added to the management ticket.
Ten of the team that started this years final are eligible next year for Cavan ( and most of the subs). Could be another Cavan - Tyrone final.
According to the local papers the current Fermanagh management handed in there resignation at Monday's county board meeting. Strange timing. I wonder what happened there?
I wouldn't be getting over confident Cavan lads. We heard that 'x amount of last years winning side are available' argument before our Minor game v Donegal last year and Donegal dumped us out without much fuss. It means very little at this level.
That said we will have a lot of lads lining out that have 2 Ulster medals in their back pockets and so they would be expected to have the quality get past Monaghan in Breffni. Tyrone with a shake up in Management and the usual impressive set of forwards will be the favourites I would imagine.
Can anyone tell me what the Cavan management is this year? I'm presuming Terry isn't going to be managing both sides.
There is a bit of a difference in comparing that to the minors, 10 Started in a Ulster u21 Final and won, so that means a lot IMO.
Peter Reilly is the Manager, Joe McCarthy and Ronan Carolan are the selectors.
It won't do any harm rodney you're right but I would always be cautious. The U21s have succeeded in the past few years through massive effort and hunger, they can't rest on their laurels.
Moynagh, Clarke, Dillon, Jack, Flanagan should all provide a decent spine to the team. I hear McLoughlin is away on erasmus for the year and won't be available. Once again though we'll struggle to put up any big scores, no real top quality forwards other than Jack. Then you're looking at Nevin O'Donnell, Andrew Graham, Conor Finnegan, Conor Madden..
Hopefully Peter can continue on in Terry's footsteps. He's been along with him for a few years now.
Enda Reilly will be availlable, playing very well with Mullahoran, , Dara McVeety (Crosserlough) both very good forwards.
Would Dara McGovern from kildallon be county standard? he was close to the minor panel a few years ago. Enda Hessin from Cootehill should make the u21 squad next year for sure and be close to the team. McCabe dropped him form the minor panel last year, very talented forward. McCabe made alot of mistakes regarding selection ect which didn't help this year, and they could have went further last year.
Turloch Mooney will also be back next year, missed out this year with cruciate ligament injury. Paul McEvoy will also be on that team, Its a fairly strong side.
Darragh McGovern is overage for U21 I'm fairly certain. He's a bit small but has pace and racks up some big scores for Kildallon. Doubt that he'll ever get a county shirt.
The Minor game last year against Donegal was a strange one. Lots of people seemed to think that there was a much stronger Cavan team than the one who started and McCabe was taking a win for granted. Not sure how much truth was in that.
Turloch Mooney will be another good addition. I would also expect Conor Smith to be there or there abouts. Looks like he could be a decent corner back, young though. Hopefully we will have leaders in the squad again, lads like Gearoid, O'Mara, Barry Reilly. Lads who were willing to make sacrifices and that the rest of the squad wanted to follow in doing so.
Quote from: Westside on October 12, 2012, 12:26:33 AM
Darragh McGovern is overage for U21 I'm fairly certain. He's a bit small but has pace and racks up some big scores for Kildallon. Doubt that he'll ever get a county shirt.
The Minor game last year against Donegal was a strange one. Lots of people seemed to think that there was a much stronger Cavan team than the one who started and McCabe was taking a win for granted. Not sure how much truth was in that.
Turloch Mooney will be another good addition. I would also expect Conor Smith to be there or there abouts. Looks like he could be a decent corner back, young though. Hopefully we will have leaders in the squad again, lads like Gearoid, O'Mara, Barry Reilly. Lads who were willing to make sacrifices and that the rest of the squad wanted to follow in doing so.
Same Conor Smith who wouldn't play for his own club this year? I wouldn't be relying on him I'm afraid which is a shame as he has potential to be very good player.
Yeah McGovern is over age, this was his last year u21.
Connor Smith was poor against Donegal, and I thought it was Clarke and Shankey who made Smith look beter than he was last year with the Minors in the full back line. He is playing with Killeshandra Juniors now.
Gerard Smith from Lavey should make it onto the team, classy player, probaly one of the better Minors against Donegal and was very good in the Minor Club final last week
Quote from: AFS on October 11, 2012, 11:55:11 PM
Fourth year in a row Armagh are away in the first round. Load of balls.
I presume that if they were to beat Fermanagh that the Down match would have to be at home. We should have a decent chance of getting as far as a semi date with Cavan as next year's u21s got to a AIQF at minor level. It would be good to get a run as we haven't gone well at this level in a few years. Hope the senior management take a better attitude to it next year than they did this year.
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
Yeah McGovern is over age, this was his last year u21.
Connor Smith was poor against Donegal, and I thought it was Clarke and Shankey who made Smith look beter than he was last year with the Minors in the full back line. He is playing with Killeshandra Juniors now.
Gerard Smith from Lavey should make it onto the team, classy player, probaly one of the better Minors against Donegal and was very good in the Minor Club final last week
I'm from the same Parish and the truth is that he declared half way through the season that he wasn't going to play football anymore. He played junior as it suited him to do so. However, I thought he was outstanding for the minors the year they won ulster and I think you are doing him a dis-service saying that he was carried by the others. Last year McCabe made a brainless decision leaving him at FB on a player much taller than him, that was obvious from the throw in. He is a small corner back with serious potential but his attitude is in question. If he doesn't man up and commit to football he'll just be another in a long line of wasters produced by cavan.
Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
He is playing with Killeshandra Juniors now.
I'm from the same Parish .
Does it really have green and lovely lanes?
It's twelve long miles around the lake to get to Cavan town.
Quote from: Hardy on October 12, 2012, 10:59:26 AM
It's twelve long miles around the lake to get to Cavan town.
And Twelve miles back.
They took me to Cootehill in a cart in a cart, they took me to Cootehill in a cart
Quote from: Hardy on October 12, 2012, 10:59:26 AM
It's twelve long miles around the lake to get to Cavan town.
It is, but only 8 for me. Its about 40 miles to Meath thankfully ;)
Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
Yeah McGovern is over age, this was his last year u21.
Connor Smith was poor against Donegal, and I thought it was Clarke and Shankey who made Smith look beter than he was last year with the Minors in the full back line. He is playing with Killeshandra Juniors now.
Gerard Smith from Lavey should make it onto the team, classy player, probaly one of the better Minors against Donegal and was very good in the Minor Club final last week
I'm from the same Parish and the truth is that he declared half way through the season that he wasn't going to play football anymore. He played junior as it suited him to do so. However, I thought he was outstanding for the minors the year they won ulster and I think you are doing him a dis-service saying that he was carried by the others. Last year McCabe made a brainless decision leaving him at FB on a player much taller than him, that was obvious from the throw in. He is a small corner back with serious potential but his attitude is in question. If he doesn't man up and commit to football he'll just be another in a long line of wasters produced by cavan.
Agree with that, I don't think he was made look good by any means. Especially in that Ulster Final where he won his individual battle very well and continually dispossessed his man or beat him to the ball and looked strong and tenacious. Leaving him on Donegal's dangerman in the Minor game this year was suicide by McCabe and was the main reason we lost the game. The Donegal Full forward was far taller, anybody could see that he was liable to get caught contesting a high ball.
Disappointing that he's not committed and if that is his attitude at that age then that Minor Ulster medal will be his last at county level. Each to their own I suppose.
Quote from: Westside on October 12, 2012, 01:00:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
Yeah McGovern is over age, this was his last year u21.
Connor Smith was poor against Donegal, and I thought it was Clarke and Shankey who made Smith look beter than he was last year with the Minors in the full back line. He is playing with Killeshandra Juniors now.
Gerard Smith from Lavey should make it onto the team, classy player, probaly one of the better Minors against Donegal and was very good in the Minor Club final last week
I'm from the same Parish and the truth is that he declared half way through the season that he wasn't going to play football anymore. He played junior as it suited him to do so. However, I thought he was outstanding for the minors the year they won ulster and I think you are doing him a dis-service saying that he was carried by the others. Last year McCabe made a brainless decision leaving him at FB on a player much taller than him, that was obvious from the throw in. He is a small corner back with serious potential but his attitude is in question. If he doesn't man up and commit to football he'll just be another in a long line of wasters produced by cavan.
Agree with that, I don't think he was made look good by any means. Especially in that Ulster Final where he won his individual battle very well and continually dispossessed his man or beat him to the ball and looked strong and tenacious. Leaving him on Donegal's dangerman in the Minor game this year was suicide by McCabe and was the main reason we lost the game. The Donegal Full forward was far taller, anybody could see that he was liable to get caught contesting a high ball.
Disappointing that he's not committed and if that is his attitude at that age then that Minor Ulster medal will be his last at county level. Each to their own I suppose.
Well we can only hope he cops on a bit. The Killeshandra set-up on the line was very poor this year by all accounts so maybe that pissed him off a bit too.
Does anyone know how the semis line up or has that draw been made yet?
Quote from: theticklemister on October 12, 2012, 11:48:58 AM
They took me to Cootehill in a cart in a cart, they took me to Cootehill in a cart
They took me to Cootehill and it's there I made me will................
One big unknown for Cavan under 21's next year is the change of management. Terry got the Under 21 lads totally excused from Senior panel duty, can't think of one other county where that approach was taken. Looking at the NFL fixture list I'm not so sure Terry will be that generous to Peter. 5 or 6 Under 21 lads involved in the senior panel could have a slight impact on cohesiveness, it's the small things that make the difference.
I would hope Terry will give the same level of respect to Peter as was given to him. There is potentially another big run in these lads either this year or next year, changing policy and involving them in the Senior Setup now could be the ruination of that.
There won't be the temptation to bring in the same amount of lads as in previous years and only Jack and Clarke would be called up to the Senior squad I would think (if McLoughlin is unavailable)
Quote from: Westside on October 12, 2012, 01:00:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
Yeah McGovern is over age, this was his last year u21.
Connor Smith was poor against Donegal, and I thought it was Clarke and Shankey who made Smith look beter than he was last year with the Minors in the full back line. He is playing with Killeshandra Juniors now.
Gerard Smith from Lavey should make it onto the team, classy player, probaly one of the better Minors against Donegal and was very good in the Minor Club final last week
But Neil McGee was carreid by Donegal last year westside? Got an All Star and wil get one this year...
I'm from the same Parish and the truth is that he declared half way through the season that he wasn't going to play football anymore. He played junior as it suited him to do so. However, I thought he was outstanding for the minors the year they won ulster and I think you are doing him a dis-service saying that he was carried by the others. Last year McCabe made a brainless decision leaving him at FB on a player much taller than him, that was obvious from the throw in. He is a small corner back with serious potential but his attitude is in question. If he doesn't man up and commit to football he'll just be another in a long line of wasters produced by cavan.
Agree with that, I don't think he was made look good by any means. Especially in that Ulster Final where he won his individual battle very well and continually dispossessed his man or beat him to the ball and looked strong and tenacious. Leaving him on Donegal's dangerman in the Minor game this year was suicide by McCabe and was the main reason we lost the game. The Donegal Full forward was far taller, anybody could see that he was liable to get caught contesting a high ball.
Disappointing that he's not committed and if that is his attitude at that age then that Minor Ulster medal will be his last at county level. Each to their own I suppose.
But Neil McGee was carried last year by Donegal last year Westside? And will more than likely get an All Star this year
Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
Yeah McGovern is over age, this was his last year u21.
Connor Smith was poor against Donegal, and I thought it was Clarke and Shankey who made Smith look beter than he was last year with the Minors in the full back line. He is playing with Killeshandra Juniors now.
Gerard Smith from Lavey should make it onto the team, classy player, probaly one of the better Minors against Donegal and was very good in the Minor Club final last week
I'm from the same Parish and the truth is that he declared half way through the season that he wasn't going to play football anymore. He played junior as it suited him to do so. However, I thought he was outstanding for the minors the year they won ulster and I think you are doing him a dis-service saying that he was carried by the others. Last year McCabe made a brainless decision leaving him at FB on a player much taller than him, that was obvious from the throw in. He is a small corner back with serious potential but his attitude is in question. If he doesn't man up and commit to football he'll just be another in a long line of wasters produced by cavan.
I was probaly a bit harsh on Smith. Still a young player, hopefully he cops on sooon enough.
Are the times and dates out for these games.
https://vimeo.com/57877217 (https://vimeo.com/57877217) - See a preview of the opening game in the 2012 Thomas Devlin Car Sales Ulster Under-21 Football Tournament at the Creggan club in Antrim. Now in its 4th year, the Tournament goes from strength to strength with Ballinderry Shamrocks taking on St Patrick's Donagh from Fermanagh in the Preliminary Round tie on Sunday January 27th at 2 O'Clock.
I see Turloch Mooney back playing for Redhills. Gives Cavan an option at midfield.. What date is the first round in Ulster? Dublin already looking shockingly strong.
Quote from: Westside on February 21, 2013, 03:08:29 PM
I see Turloch Mooney back playing for Redhills. Gives Cavan an option at midfield.. What date is the first round in Ulster? Dublin already looking shockingly strong.
Leinster wouldn't be very competitive so I think you can only judge Dublin when they play a team of a decent standard.
Carlow might not be a great yardstick.. But Longford will be.
Monaghan gave Tyrone a quare walloping in the Shamrock final tonight.
A real hammering alright. Tyrone with a very strong line out too.
I had my suspicions about this conveyor belt of talent that everyone talks about. As a close follower of club football, very few of these lads stand out in the club championship series. A minor All Ireland is very over rated in my opinion and can often lead to players getting the old "im think im better than I am". When the U21 championship is played at this time of the year it is very difficult to guauge with the biggest and most physical teams often winning. Having said that with so many players involved with the seniors it may be difficult for them to come down to a level mentally to play an U21 challenge match.
Longford beat Dublin last night so Leinster could be a lot more competitive than you might think!
Was that a league final played last night?? With Tyrones obvious talent I suppose you could argue that they have under achieved of late. Still would make them favourites however. How is Ronan O'Neill's rehab going?? He is a very exciting prospect. Hopefully the lad can make it back!!
Not too sure but i think it was the qf of the championship I think.. If so, a major shock! Longford where 16/1 before the game
It was Leinster championship so Dublin are out!
I'm referring to the Tyrone/Monaghan game lads. Was it an Ulster league final?
Yea Shamrock Cup is the league!
Its more of a tournament than a league, not all Ulster teams play in it. Cavan never played in the Shamrock Cup before.
So when does the championship start then?
It is the name of the thread and we're on page 3 but still no mention of any fixture dates.
Found it myself
http://ulster.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/2013-2/football/cadbury-ulster-u21-football-championship/ (http://ulster.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/2013-2/football/cadbury-ulster-u21-football-championship/)
DATE: WEDNESDAY 20TH MAR 2013
Under 21 Football championship 2013 Quarter Final 8 00 PM Healy Park, Omagh Tyrone --- v Donegal --- TBC
Under 21 Football championship 2013 Quarter Final 8 00 PM Casement Park Antrim --- v Derry --- TBC
Under 21 Football championship 2013 Quarter Final 8 00 PM Kingspan Breffni Pk Cavan --- v Monaghan --- TBC
Under 21 Football championship 2013 Quarter Final 8 00 PM Winner of null --- v Fermanagh/Armagh --- TBC
2010 All-Ireland Minor Champs:
C Spiers;
S McGarrity, C Clarke, HP McGeary;
N Sludden, M Donaghy, E Deeney;
H Óg Conlon, C Grugan;
R Donnelly, T Canavan, R Devlin;
S Tierney, J McCullagh, R Ó Néill.
SUBS: P McNulty, L Gervan, D Donnelly.
Team beaten last night:
M McReynolds
D Quinn, C Clarke, HP McGeary
M Donaghy, N Sludden, R Loughran
H og Conlon, C Grugan
R Devlin, R O'Neill, L Gervan
K McGeary, R Donnelly, J McCullagh
SUBS: T Canavan, J Munroe, P McNulty, M Bradley, E Deeney
Any news on the Armagh v Fermanagh game tonight?
It's tomorrow night.
Totally gutted I've been thinking its wed all evening, still 3 days to go this week,
Wud have feicin put my house on the Dubs. Funny shtuff.
The Dubs were never in the running for Ulster anyway!
Is there team news for tomorrow nights fixtures? Tempted to do an accumulator but its difficult if you only find out the starting teams 5mins before throw in..
Quote from: God14 on March 19, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Is there team news for tomorrow nights fixtures? Tempted to do an accumulator but its difficult if you only find out the starting teams 5mins before throw in..
Take a chance sure
Quote from: God14 on March 19, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Is there team news for tomorrow nights fixtures? Tempted to do an accumulator but its difficult if you only find out the starting teams 5mins before throw in..
Had a look on teamtalk and tyronegaa.ie but nothing there.
Armaghs team is named, saw it on twitter. No word from Cavan yet. I think the Cavan Monaghan game will be extremely tight and the winner could win it out.
If my maths is correct there are 14 different clubs represented on he starting 15. The club with two players is a club only recently promoted to intermediate status too. Think this shows the work being done across the board in the county.
Tyrone usually have good underage teams, are they a shoe in for tomorrows game against Donegal? 3/10 in the bookies currently, what are Donegal like at this age level
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2013, 08:20:11 PM
Tyrone usually have good underage teams, are they a shoe in for tomorrows game against Donegal? 3/10 in the bookies currently, what are Donegal like at this age level
This Tyrone team won the All Ireland Minor in 2010. They narrowly beat Down in the Ulster Semi that year and I think we have a half decent team this year.
Interview with Ronan O'Neill ahead of tonights game. Interesting to hear that Brian Dooher and Philip Jordan are working with the management team. Hopefully provide that extra drive to realise this groups undoubted potential.
http://www.tyronegaa.ie/2013/03/under-21s-open-at-omagh-podcast/
I was suprised to see Paddy McBrearty line out for Donegal seniors last weekend. I think Mickey Harte in comparison did the right thing there letting Ronan O'Neill & Conor Clarke focus on tonights game. Hopefully Tyrone will get their rewards for prioritising this tournament. Cant make the match tonight but looking forward to the commentary provided by teamtalkmag.com
Quote from: God14 on March 20, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
I was suprised to see Paddy McBrearty line out for Donegal seniors last weekend. I think Mickey Harte in comparison did the right thing there letting Ronan O'Neill & Conor Clarke focus on tonights game. Hopefully Tyrone will get their rewards for prioritising this tournament. Cant make the match tonight but looking forward to the commentary provided by teamtalkmag.com
Armagh under 21s were excused the last two national league games.
donegal u-21 team
Donegal Team
1.Peter Boyle
2. Kevin McFadden (C)
3. Ciaran Cannon
4. Pauric Carr
5. Eoin McHugh
6. Martin O'Reilly
7. Conor Parke
8. Caolan Ward
9. Luke Keeney
10. Leon Kelly
11. Conor Gibbons
12. Ryan McHugh
13. William Gillespie
14. Patrick McBrearty
15. Odhran Mac Niallais
Donegal 0-06 to 0-02 up after 25 mins
Donegal 0:12
Tyrone 1:05
A shock in the offing? You know, it'd be interesting to compare minor AI winning teams and their county's results in the U21 championship three years later.
Very disappointing defeat. Three years is a long time.
Quote from: ONeill on March 20, 2013, 09:16:18 PM
Very disappointing defeat. Three years is a long time.
There'll be some inquest in the morning!
Another big let down and more worrying for the future of the senior team. That is two AI winning minor teams that have not got no where near the summit in the U-21 grade.
Quote from: ONeill on March 20, 2013, 09:16:18 PM
Very disappointing defeat. Three years is a long time.
Shocking result when you think about the players Tyrone had to pick from, they have been given priority too from the senior team, ambushed, it happens, especially when I backed the lol
Great win for Donegal. Very convincing. Paddy McBrearty top class.
Finished 0:15 to 1:06. One score in last 20 minutes not good enough.
McBrearty very impressive.
down 0-11
armagh1-5
poor performance by armagh
down stronger throughout the pitch, there was a shocking amount ofturnover from an armagh point of view##
best team won fair and square
Well, that was unexpected! 8)
Quote from: J70 on March 20, 2013, 09:26:48 PM
Well, that was unexpected! 8)
The McKenna cup experience must have helped the lads.
Gotta wonder why a team with mcCurry, o'Neill, Grugan etc has failed so badly.
Clubland? Sally's? Kildress Inn? Buckfast? Women? Skilful midgets?
Quote from: tyroneman on March 20, 2013, 09:31:03 PM
Gotta wonder why a team with mcCurry, o'Neill, Grugan etc has failed so badly.
Is it a case that these guys have been continually built up as well hearing how good they are etc since they won the minor AIs that they just haven't got that hunger/pure drive required to win at this level. There must be a certain level complacency at play.
Or maybe they just aren't as good as we think...
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 20, 2013, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 20, 2013, 09:31:03 PM
Gotta wonder why a team with mcCurry, o'Neill, Grugan etc has failed so badly.
Is it a case that these guys have been continually built up as well hearing how good they are etc since they won the minor AIs that they just haven't got that hunger/pure drive required to win at this level. There must be a certain level complacency at play.
Or maybe they just aren't as good as we think...
Maybe. Think mcCurry and O'Neill are good enough but the supporting cast ? Not so sure.
Had real high hope for Conlon and Grugan but neither seem to have pushed on.
Hope they get the hunger back or whatever they need to take the next step.
Last Minors to make a consistent Senior impact??
No doubting Mc Currys ability. It's probably a bit early to expect much from O'Neill after his injury lay off. Always had my doubts about Grugan though. Did he start midfield? Definitely not physical enough to play this position!
Jesus Armagh were pish, having said that i thought Down were impressive, physically superior, faster & fitter, played with purpose and to a well defined game plan, Armagh looked to be playing on the hoof. Half time subs made a bit of difference. big Findon making an impact, Ethan Rafferty made plenty of mistakes but at least he tried, same with Forker. The future isn't looking rosey i have to say.
At the risk of applying the Kiss of Death i wouldn't be suprised to see Down go close to AI honours.
Is it possible that Donegal were the better team, very disrespectful, Donegal has not been mentioned in the last few posts
Quote from: bennydorano on March 20, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Jesus Armagh were pish, having said that i thought Down were impressive, physically superior, faster & fitter, played with purpose and to a well defined game plan, Armagh looked to be playing on the hoof. Half time subs made a bit of difference. big Findon making an impact, Ethan Rafferty made plenty of mistakes but at least he tried, same with Forker. The future isn't looking rosey i have to say.
At the risk of applying the Kiss of Death i wouldn't be suprised to see Down go close to AI honours.
That was a fine Armagh team at minor, robbed in their AIQF by a last second goal by Cork. Still think Down would be 3rd in Ulster alone, behind Cavan and Donegal. Tipp (or Cork if they can beat them) will be a serious challenge for whoever comes out of Ulster.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 20, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Jesus Armagh were pish, having said that i thought Down were impressive, physically superior, faster & fitter, played with purpose and to a well defined game plan, Armagh looked to be playing on the hoof. Half time subs made a bit of difference. big Findon making an impact, Ethan Rafferty made plenty of mistakes but at least he tried, same with Forker. The future isn't looking rosey i have to say.
At the risk of applying the Kiss of Death i wouldn't be suprised to see Down go close to AI honours.
I think Down were a lot cuter than Armagh and looked very well coached. They will worry that they nearly got caught in a game were they were so much superior. If Armagh had have turned up in the first half it might have been a good game. On another note Armagh teams will need to learn to play against a sweeper.
The correlation between minor success and Under 21 success is over exaggerated.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 20, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Jesus Armagh were pish, having said that i thought Down were impressive, physically superior, faster & fitter, played with purpose and to a well defined game plan, Armagh looked to be playing on the hoof. Half time subs made a bit of difference. big Findon making an impact, Ethan Rafferty made plenty of mistakes but at least he tried, same with Forker. The future isn't looking rosey i have to say.
At the risk of applying the Kiss of Death i wouldn't be suprised to see Down go close to AI honours.
Down with a game plan?? Can someone pass it on to wee james. ;D
Good win for Down bookies had us at 11/2 for Ulster. Face the winners of Cavan Monaghan now. wont be easy with either.
Cavan 1 16
Monaghan 1 12
after extra time.
Quote from: tyroneman on March 20, 2013, 09:47:34 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 20, 2013, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 20, 2013, 09:31:03 PM
Gotta wonder why a team with mcCurry, o'Neill, Grugan etc has failed so badly.
Is it a case that these guys have been continually built up as well hearing how good they are etc since they won the minor AIs that they just haven't got that hunger/pure drive required to win at this level. There must be a certain level complacency at play.
Or maybe they just aren't as good as we think...
Maybe. Think mcCurry and O'Neill are good enough but the supporting cast ? Not so sure.
Had real high hope for Conlon and Grugan but neither seem to have pushed on.
Hope they get the hunger back or whatever they need to take the next step.
Last Minors to make a consistent Senior impact??
To be fair to Grugan I thought he made a real leap forward last year. His performances with Omagh last year were outstanding at times. I don't think he's too long back after injury either so I'd cut him some slack for that. I was looking forward to seeing how he would get on in the senior panel this year.
We've been waiting on a performance from the under 21 side for a long time now and they consistently haven't produced it.
Strange to see Munroe fail at U-21 level since some people highlighted Liam Donnelly as the reason behind the failure at U-21 level.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 20, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Jesus Armagh were pish, having said that i thought Down were impressive, physically superior, faster & fitter, played with purpose and to a well defined game plan, Armagh looked to be playing on the hoof. Half time subs made a bit of difference. big Findon making an impact, Ethan Rafferty made plenty of mistakes but at least he tried, same with Forker. The future isn't looking rosey i have to say.
At the risk of applying the Kiss of Death i wouldn't be suprised to see Down go close to AI honours.
It's hard to know how good Down were tonight, Armagh were that poor it was hard to believe they had gotten exclusive access to the senior players for a month. Down were definitely physically bigger and had a clear gameplan (sweeper system) which Armagh lacked. Outside of Ethan Rafferty you would struggle to pick out any players capable of making the step up to senior level. Cavan will definitely give Down a much sterner test.
Antrim absolute pish
Quote from: Gold on March 20, 2013, 10:43:27 PM
Antrim absolute pish
What you make of Derry? Very young team, nearly all underage next year!
Down v Cavan Donegal v Derry in the semis.
Tyrone conveyor belt never had any wheels.
Hard to work out how good Derry is, Antrim had some good players but couldn't settle themselves and gave away some very poor goals. Derry are very young, but i move Ryan Bell to midfield, the games seems to pass him by at no.11. Speirs of Magehrafelt is very good. Ryan Ferris is injured i presume he still U-21. Missing due to long term injury would been the 2 1st choice midfielders, McGilligan and Bradley,
Tyrone put a massive effort into this under 21 campaign, training for almost 6 months several times a week. Had Brian Dooher and Philly Jordan along with Munroe and McAnenly. Costly match for club Tyrone!
It is notoriously hard to relate u21 teams to their minor counterparts of three years previously. Down's three star men from the minor side of 2010 were Niall McParland, Shea McCartan and Caolan Mooney. All three were missing tonight, with McParland presumably injured, McCartan at Burnley and Mooney in Melbourne, and yet Down seem to have won pretty comfortably.
Quote from: The Trap on March 20, 2013, 10:59:39 PM
Tyrone put a massive effort into this under 21 campaign, training for almost 6 months several times a week. Had Brian Dooher and Philly Jordan along with Munroe and McAnenly. Costly match for club Tyrone!
One barrier removed to the start of ACL though
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 20, 2013, 10:52:13 PM
Hard to work out how good Derry is, Antrim had some good players but couldn't settle themselves and gave away some very poor goals. Derry are very young, but i move Ryan Bell to midfield, the games seems to pass him by at no.11. Speirs of Magehrafelt is very good. Ryan Ferris is injured i presume he still U-21. Missing due to long term injury would been the 2 1st choice midfielders, McGilligan and Bradley,
Derry no good
Antrim three ahead but shit togs and gave away two shite goals for nothin. Heads then dropped. Antrim prob had better players but shit them, all in the head
Derry won't go much further
Is there any benefit to having an U21 team? In this day in age of rising costs, insurance, physio, transport etc etc, is there value for money in an Inter county U21 team that has between 1 and 5 games per year?
Quote from: The Trap on March 20, 2013, 10:59:39 PM
Tyrone put a massive effort into this under 21 campaign, training for almost 6 months several times a week. Had Brian Dooher and Philly Jordan along with Munroe and McAnenly. Costly match for club Tyrone!
Saving it for the Seniors, with a bit of luck! :-\
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 21, 2013, 12:03:34 AM
Is there any benefit to having an U21 team? In this day in age of rising costs, insurance, physio, transport etc etc, is there value for money in an Inter county U21 team that has between 1 and 5 games per year?
Was benefit when Tyrone won 2000,2001 U21 All Irelands. Another bad result for Armagh underage team, can't have many complaints when you only manage 1-5.
Quote from: J70 on March 20, 2013, 09:26:48 PM
Well, that was unexpected!)
History versus the the most cursory eye on proceedings would have a Dún na nGall win on paper (once the team came out) never mind looking into the McKenna Cup team overlap. (30/100 the Bookies were fooling eejits into on the History part).
Quote from: theticklemister on March 20, 2013, 07:51:43 PM
donegal u-21 team
Donegal Team
1.Peter Boyle
2. Kevin McFadden (C)
3. Ciaran Cannon
4. Pauric Carr
5. Eoin McHugh
6. Martin O'Reilly
7. Conor Parke
8. Caolan Ward
9. Luke Keeney
10. Leon Kelly
11. Conor Gibbons
12. Ryan McHugh
13. William Gillespie
14. Patrick McBrearty
15. Odhran Mac Niallais
Grugan and O'Neill have both been injured for quite a while and as far as I know they have both only been back a matter of weeks. Grugan had a very good 2012 with Omagh too.
Great win for Cavan against a good Monaghan team last night. Couldnt get to it but I hear that it was a top game. I fancy us to do well if we can keep the focus and intensity. Some of our lads were just on the way back and that tough match will stand to them.
Quote from: Wee Roddy on March 07, 2013, 09:48:03 AM
I had my suspicions about this conveyor belt of talent that everyone talks about. As a close follower of club football, very few of these lads stand out in the club championship series. A minor All Ireland is very over rated in my opinion and can often lead to players getting the old "im think im better than I am". When the U21 championship is played at this time of the year it is very difficult to guauge with the biggest and most physical teams often winning. Having said that with so many players involved with the seniors it may be difficult for them to come down to a level mentally to play an U21 challenge match.
Even less convinced about some off these lads now. Is it possible that Ronan O'Neill carried this team and with his recuparation from injury obviously not complete, they are just a run off the mill team? Players can bulk all they want but the outstanding young players like McBrearty, Cillian O'Connor, Murphy, Aidan Walsh, Ciaran Kilkeeny.....they are alot physically stronger than our crop naturally and no bulking will really really change this
Good game in Breffni Park.
It was great entertainment with two teams just going at it and no dirty stuff. Very exciting at the end of normal time when they were level and both teams kept turning the ball over to each other when trying to break forward for a winner. Jack McCarron had a chance to put Monaghan ahead near the end but put it wide. Then Cavan hit three wides before the end that could have won it for them. It was good stuff.
Cavan marginally the better team throughout but Monaghan stayed with them for the whole game and matched them until we ran out of steam in the second half of extra time and Cavan pulled away a bit.
I think the Cavan bench was the difference. Their subs made a real impact. No. 22 stood out and No.18 and No. 24 were impressive. Their subs gave them the extra legs to pull away in the end.
Sherry and Dooney caught most of the clean ball in midfield for Monaghan but Cavan were far better on the breaking ball and that was another factor in their win.
Honourable mention to Monaghan. Great attitude, plenty of skill and they put in a hard 80 minutes' work. Had we jumped this hurdle I think we'd have made an impact this year. McGuigan and Paudie McKenna were good in defence and Daniel McKenna was a real threat up front until he succumbed to cramp near the end. You couldn't fault the effort. It's just a pity we couldn't clinch it in normal time as the boys were out on their feet in extra time and you just felt Cavan were going to pull away.
Cavan No. 5 was my man of the match.
That's a good Cavan team with a strong bench. They'll take a bit of stopping.
very very dissapointing from a Tyrone perspective. We've had some talent in the U21 grade over the past 5 years, and no silverware to show for it bar the odd shamrock cup
Take nothing away from Donegal - worthy winners by all accounts. I just feel that as underdogs, their sole focus since January would have been on last nights match, whereas maybe some of our lads had their eyes on bigger days & occasions. Certainly from a supporters perspective we were hoping for an Ulster title & possibly even a tilt at an AI
We've definitely underachived at this grade. Trileacman is spot on when he says you cant blame the management. Equally alot of these players will still go onto the senior set up to become key players.
... I wonder would results be different if this tournament was run off in June or July? ..I think with the smaller skillful footballers Tyrone tend to produce maybe the firmer sod would bring out in the best in them.
Quote from: charlie linkbox on March 21, 2013, 09:40:19 AM
Good game in Breffni Park.
It was great entertainment with two teams just going at it and no dirty stuff. Very exciting at the end of normal time when they were level and both teams kept turning the ball over to each other when trying to break forward for a winner. Jack McCarron had a chance to put Monaghan ahead near the end but put it wide. Then Cavan hit three wides before the end that could have won it for them. It was good stuff.
Cavan marginally the better team throughout but Monaghan stayed with them for the whole game and matched them until we ran out of steam in the second half of extra time and Cavan pulled away a bit.
I think the Cavan bench was the difference. Their subs made a real impact. No. 22 stood out and No.18 and No. 24 were impressive. Their subs gave them the extra legs to pull away in the end.
Sherry and Dooney caught most of the clean ball in midfield for Monaghan but Cavan were far better on the breaking ball and that was another factor in their win.
Honourable mention to Monaghan. Great attitude, plenty of skill and they put in a hard 80 minutes' work. Had we jumped this hurdle I think we'd have made an impact this year. McGuigan and Paudie McKenna were good in defence and Daniel McKenna was a real threat up front until he succumbed to cramp near the end. You couldn't fault the effort. It's just a pity we couldn't clinch it in normal time as the boys were out on their feet in extra time and you just felt Cavan were going to pull away.
Cavan No. 5 was my man of the match.
That's a good Cavan team with a strong bench. They'll take a bit of stopping.
It was a very good game of Football. No 5 was Darragh Mcvitty, he was selected at half back in the match programme but started out at half forward with Gerard Smith going half back, but McVitty Idropped back as a sweeper and done really well. Used the ball well and made some vital interceptoins.
22 was Joe Dillon a regular starter in the last 2 years. I would think he will be starting the next day, made a great impact when he came with 2 class points in extra time. 24 was Connor Madden he also got 2 brillant scores in extra time. Minor player from last year. 18, was Aaron Watson also Minor last year.
Felt the Cavan midfield was being over run at times, I was a bit shocked that Michael Argue lasted as long as he did until he was replaced.
Cavan have a strong bench and it made the difference.
Real tough battle tomorrow with Cavan an Down locking horns. Don't know much about this Down team but they had a comfortable win against Armagh. I'm hoping our much tougher opening game will stand to us and with one or two tweaks to the starting lineup I think we can squeak through.
Cavan have a very poor record against Down at underage, barring the hammering we gave them in Breffni in the first round of the U21 in 2010. It's going to be extremely tough and we aren't helped by being brought to the Atheletic Grounds. If this turns into a shootout I find it hard to see Cavan having enough to win, if we can make them play our game, keep things tight, I think we can grind out a result. Best of luck to Peter and all the Cavan team.
Did anyone read the Indo's preview of the match. Jaysus that paper is gone to the dogs. Apparently Jack Brady kicked 9 points against Monaghan and he is the sharp shooter that will win the match for us tonight!
So much coverage of games outside the top counties is woeful. A massive proportion of coverage by anyone other than local journalists is generic rubbish pieced together from match reports. Jack Brady hasn't played as an inside forward for Cavan since the All Ireland Final in 2011.
Myles do you think will Peter change the starting team much? The subs were excellent against Monaghan, this was often the case in previous years too but Terry always favoured consistency in his starting side.
Quote from: Westside on April 03, 2013, 03:49:11 PM
So much coverage of games outside the top counties is woeful. A massive proportion of coverage by anyone other than local journalists is generic rubbish pieced together from match reports. Jack Brady hasn't played as an inside forward for Cavan since the All Ireland Final in 2011.
Myles do you think will Peter change the starting team much? The subs were excellent against Monaghan, this was often the case in previous years too but Terry always favoured consistency in his starting side.
Well I missed the first game unfortunately but I think he might make a change around the middle, two young lads there last day and they were out muscled a bit. Maybe Mooney coming in to the ctr field? Like you say, I don't think whole scale change is likely. Strong bench will be needed tonight too.
I got to the first game, don't think I'll make it tonight unfortunately. I thought Sankey did ok. He's strong and committed. Argue had a bad evening, he's very tall but still fairly light. I doubt if Mooney has the fitness for a full game in the middle though. Personally I wouldn't make any unforced changes. It will depend on the match ups against Down too I suppose. The Grahams, Dillon, Moynagh, Madden, are all great options if we're not doing well and need a shake up in personnel.
Something that was overlooked after the last game too was that Jason McLoughlin had just lost his grandfather and went out and played the game and did very well. Fair play to the lad.
Quote from: Westside on April 03, 2013, 04:12:23 PM
I got to the first game, don't think I'll make it tonight unfortunately. I thought Sankey did ok. He's strong and committed. Argue had a bad evening, he's very tall but still fairly light. I doubt if Mooney has the fitness for a full game in the middle though. Personally I wouldn't make any unforced changes. It will depend on the match ups against Down too I suppose. The Grahams, Dillon, Moynagh, Madden, are all great options if we're not doing well and need a shake up in personnel.
Something that was overlooked after the last game too was that Jason McLoughlin had just lost his grandfather and went out and played the game and did very well. Fair play to the lad.
Yeh same as that, living in west Sligo and working till 6 means its just not possible to make Armagh. Got to all the games last year as they were in Enniskillen. Fair play to McLoughlin, I think he could be a great player for us, a really sticky marker. Do you know are the celt doing a blog on the game, couldnt face listening to that clown on Northern Sound?
Good luck to all Cavan lads involved tonight. It's going to be a battle.
Paul Fitzpatrick is doing his live blog yes, I'm the same about Tynan I feel it's bad luck listening to him! The blog is fantastic, I know a few other media outlets like teamtalkmag do updates things but Paul's Blog is detailed and insightful. I'd recommend it to anyone not able to attend.
Good luck to the lads tonight. Hopefully a 4th consecutive Ulster u21 final appearance.
CGilsenan. JMcLoughlin. KClarke. CBrady. DMcVitty. DSexton. FFlanagan. BSankey. MArgue. PGraham. CConroy. TMooney. EO'Reilly. PO'Connor. JBrady
This is the Cavan starting team for tonight. Only change is Paul Graham in for Gerard Smith. Going to be a great night for football, c'mon Cavan!!
Gerard Smith in for Paul Graham.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG8sy51CMAIXnee.jpg:large)
Myles, would you know if Darragh Sexton's da is called Kevin ?
Any score yet ?
Sorry lad I don't know
Cavan 3 1 up after 8 mins
4 1 to Cavan. 11 gone.
5 1 to Cavan. 15 gone.
8 2 to Cavan
Enda reilly with massive frees. 45 scored by Cavan keeper.
9 2 to Cavan - Jack Brady nearly 30 gone
Couldn't get to the match, they seem to be Flying, going by Northern Sound.
Donegal leading 1-4 to 6
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2013, 08:30:01 PM
9 2 to Cavan - Jack Brady nearly 30 gone
Looks easy for Cavan.
Yeh Rodney 9 2 at Half time.
Like you listening to the blog on anglocelt - very good service from Paul
Magnificent first half. Get the first score in the 2nd half and its hard to see a way back for Down.
I love the U21 games, its less cynical and lots of great football. Pissed off couldnt get to this game but its 3 hours drive for me to Armagh, just not feasible on a Wednesday evening after work.
Looks like it will be a repeat of 2010 final, Donegal pulling ahead in the other semi
Can't get thru to Paul's blog, Keoghan and Tynan on Northern sound instead
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 09:07:22 PM
Looks like it will be a repeat of 2010 final, Donegal pulling ahead in the other semi
Can't get thru to Paul's blog, Keoghan and Tynan on Northern sound instead
Cavan1-11 down0.05 about 10 to play
Quote from: snoopdog on April 03, 2013, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 09:07:22 PM
Looks like it will be a repeat of 2010 final, Donegal pulling ahead in the other semi
Can't get thru to Paul's blog, Keoghan and Tynan on Northern sound instead
Cavan1-11 down0.05 about 10 to play
Cheers. I was following on twitter anyway.
Suprised @ Cavan score, shows how brutal Armagh were.
Great goal by Paul o Connor-seems he has
the same football gene as his first cousin Cillian!
Not long in from work so couldn't get to game but driving near Athletic Grounds there are some amount of Cavan cars. The supporters must think highly of this team!
Wides cost Derry tonight but a good performance from a very young side. Cavan big favourites to make it 3 in a row!
Quote from: Throw ball on April 03, 2013, 09:22:52 PM
Not long in from work so couldn't get to game but driving near Athletic Grounds there are some amount of Cavan cars. The supporters must think highly of this team!
They have had a brilliant support for the last 3/4 yrs at u21. Success brings support, Gutted I couldn't get to Armagh tonight, will be at the final no question. Some revenge would be nice against Donegal
Cavan looking good for three in a row.
Cavan may be favourites, but still good to see our boys getting back to an Ulster final
Cavan people do indeed think highly of this team. They look possibly stronger than any of the last 3 sides we've had. No visible weaknesses in the side, all good footballers, hard working, determined and confident. This has the makings of a very good Ulster Final. Donegal have a good side too and McBrearty and the McHughs will be a step up from anything we've faced so far. Hopefully it's in Brewster, both counties will bring a big support.
In fairness to Cavan folk, they always come out and support their teams.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 09:26:35 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 03, 2013, 09:22:52 PM
Not long in from work so couldn't get to game but driving near Athletic Grounds there are some amount of Cavan cars. The supporters must think highly of this team!
They have had a brilliant support for the last 3/4 yrs at u21. Success brings support, Gutted I couldn't get to Armagh tonight, will be at the final no question. Some revenge would be nice against Donegal
Have to say Cavan have world class supporters, incredible support at the AISF and not a bad word spoken after they lost. Plenty wished us well well in the final on the way out too. Hard not to like the Breffini boys.
I'd say Enniskillan is the obvious choice for the final, 10th of April is the date of the final. Michael Argue was suppose to have had a very good game, fair play to him, he wasn't at the races against Monaghan.
great to see our lads getting a head of steam up. fair play to them.
Great for Argue indeed after Peter stuck with him. The entire defence was brilliant according to Fitzpatrick's blog. Enda O'Reilly is probably classier than any forward we've had at this level. Absolutely deadly from placed balls. Putting the shackles on McBrearty will be tough. Donegal seem similar to their last winning U21 outfit. One of the top young forwards in the game leading a tough side.
I disagree about Argue.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on April 03, 2013, 10:20:37 PM
I disagree about Argue.
Were you at the game, I was going by what they said on the Radio
Surely something must come from this run Cavan are having at U21. I think they've been lingering steadfast in the division three wilderness since 2008 at least.
Quote from: ONeill on April 03, 2013, 10:44:37 PM
Surely something must come from this run Cavan are having at U21. I think they've been lingering steadfast in the division three wilderness since 2008 at least.
We hope so but remember we are asking these lads from the last 4 years to become the spine of our team. There are no top level players waiting in the senior panel to bring them on. Its the opposite actually. So it will take time. This team is exciting and was very impressive in wiping out Down tonight. Well done to the boys.
Quote from: ONeill on April 03, 2013, 10:44:37 PM
Surely something must come from this run Cavan are having at U21. I think they've been lingering steadfast in the division three wilderness since 2008 at least.
We are showing signs of improvement at senior level so hopefully the continuation of talent coming through will help.
Wasn't at all surprised to hear that Cavan won comfortably tonight. Down were made to look a decent side 2 weeks ago by a dismal display by Armagh. Would expect Cavan to go on and win it now although Donegal have posted an impressive couple of wins to date. Donegal seem to be riding the crest of a wave after the exploits of the senior side last summer. Surely it's only a matter of time before this Cavan success at underage translates itself at senior level. Would be seriously worried of the prospect of a Cavan win over Armagh in Breffni in the USFC prelim round.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on April 03, 2013, 10:20:37 PM
I disagree about Argue.
Mother of Jaysus... ::)
Didn't make it down to the game but delighted with the result and the 4th final in a row. I really hope these lads do a three in a row now and go challenge for the AI.
Good to see the former super power of Ulster football back to its proud self. Great supporters, get out in numbers, roar their team on, no badness. Always like to see Cavan go well.
Quote from: Rudi on April 04, 2013, 09:34:07 AM
Good to see the former super power of Ulster football back to its proud self. Great supporters, get out in numbers, roar their team on, no badness. Always like to see Cavan go well.
I can never forgive them for that 'point' that beat us!!!
I havent seen cavan yet but I seen dun na ngall last night and they were not overtly impressive. The two goals that they got should have not happened. First one was hanging when two Derry men were watching it and mac neilis fisted her in and the second wan im still trying to think how he got the ball past two defenders and the goalkeeper at the near post. Everything goes through mcbrearty so if ye keep him quiet they have little else. They gave derry a lot of ball around the 45 m line so if yer shooting from long range is on the money there should be no problem .
Great effort last night from Derry for such a young team. What a thrilling finish, four goal chances in last three minutes. Great to see; they showed great guts to come back. Never a happy man in defeat but the lads showed great guts after coming from four points down in first half and almost coming from five down in second half. A bit of buzz around the football this year in the county by the looks of it. Hopefully a big crowd to cheer us on in sunday.
Quote from: Westside on April 03, 2013, 03:49:11 PM
So much coverage of games outside the top counties is woeful. A massive proportion of coverage by anyone other than local journalists is generic rubbish pieced together from match reports. Jack Brady hasn't played as an inside forward for Cavan since the All Ireland Final in 2011.
Myles do you think will Peter change the starting team much? The subs were excellent against Monaghan, this was often the case in previous years too but Terry always favoured consistency in his starting side.
They don't have a report on the Cavan Down in todays online Indo. Breheny is probably too busy writing his next excellent list entitled "top 20 players ever who won wearing odd socks" or perhaps he is writing up his next "poor Sean Johnston" piece.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 04, 2013, 03:08:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 03, 2013, 03:49:11 PM
So much coverage of games outside the top counties is woeful. A massive proportion of coverage by anyone other than local journalists is generic rubbish pieced together from match reports. Jack Brady hasn't played as an inside forward for Cavan since the All Ireland Final in 2011.
Myles do you think will Peter change the starting team much? The subs were excellent against Monaghan, this was often the case in previous years too but Terry always favoured consistency in his starting side.
They don't have a report on the Cavan Down in todays online Indo. Breheny is probably too busy writing his next excellent list entitled "top 20 players ever who won wearing odd socks" or perhaps he is writing up his next "poor Sean Johnston" piece.
if you were any good he would have stayed.
I saw a stat today that Cavan have won 9 of their last 10 ulster u21 games, and the one they lost was the 2010 final to Donegal if I remember right. That sort of dominance surely has to turn into some sort of success in the future for Cavan seniors!
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 04, 2013, 03:08:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 03, 2013, 03:49:11 PM
So much coverage of games outside the top counties is woeful. A massive proportion of coverage by anyone other than local journalists is generic rubbish pieced together from match reports. Jack Brady hasn't played as an inside forward for Cavan since the All Ireland Final in 2011.
Myles do you think will Peter change the starting team much? The subs were excellent against Monaghan, this was often the case in previous years too but Terry always favoured consistency in his starting side.
They don't have a report on the Cavan Down in todays online Indo. Breheny is probably too busy writing his next excellent list entitled "top 20 players ever who won wearing odd socks" or perhaps he is writing up his next "poor Sean Johnston" piece.
if you were any good he would have stayed.
Nail on the head! Didn't know you agreed with me on this.
Quote from: Corkey22 on April 04, 2013, 03:43:04 PM
I saw a stat today that Cavan have won 9 of their last 10 ulster u21 games, and the one they lost was the 2010 final to Donegal if I remember right. That sort of dominance surely has to turn into some sort of success in the future for Cavan seniors!
I don't think its a given that any major success will come from it. They haven't been blowing the opposition out of the water in any of the years, and how comparitive is Winter u-21 football to Summer senior football. Different players/teams seem to thrive in the conditions at this time of year. I suppose its all down to how many really stand out players each County has at u-21 or Minor and how many are picked up for senior. Some counties might do well at U-21 as they have a strong team that is solid all over whereas other counties mighn't necessarily win Ulster but could be bringing through more standout individuals from each year. You would think that a lot of the Cavan u-21's from previous years would have done something by now.
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 04, 2013, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on April 04, 2013, 03:43:04 PM
I saw a stat today that Cavan have won 9 of their last 10 ulster u21 games, and the one they lost was the 2010 final to Donegal if I remember right. That sort of dominance surely has to turn into some sort of success in the future for Cavan seniors!
I don't think its a given that any major success will come from it. They haven't been blowing the opposition out of the water in any of the years, and how comparitive is Winter u-21 football to Summer senior football. Different players/teams seem to thrive in the conditions at this time of year. I suppose its all down to how many really stand out players each County has at u-21 or Minor and how many are picked up for senior. Some counties might do well at U-21 as they have a strong team that is solid all over whereas other counties mighn't necessarily win Ulster but could be bringing through more standout individuals from each year. You would think that a lot of the Cavan u-21's from previous years would have done something by now.
I wouldnt necessarily agree there nrico2006. Perhaps your clutching at straws given Tyrones poor performances at this age group ;) Unfortunately Cavan find themselves in a difficult position having had a poor senior team for a number of years now. To expect the U21's of recent years to change things immediately is a huge ask. Recent successful U21 teams (Cork, Donegal, Dublin) have all had a core of very strong players to add 3-4 U21 graduates to.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 04, 2013, 04:05:25 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 04, 2013, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on April 04, 2013, 03:43:04 PM
I saw a stat today that Cavan have won 9 of their last 10 ulster u21 games, and the one they lost was the 2010 final to Donegal if I remember right. That sort of dominance surely has to turn into some sort of success in the future for Cavan seniors!
I don't think its a given that any major success will come from it. They haven't been blowing the opposition out of the water in any of the years, and how comparitive is Winter u-21 football to Summer senior football. Different players/teams seem to thrive in the conditions at this time of year. I suppose its all down to how many really stand out players each County has at u-21 or Minor and how many are picked up for senior. Some counties might do well at U-21 as they have a strong team that is solid all over whereas other counties mighn't necessarily win Ulster but could be bringing through more standout individuals from each year. You would think that a lot of the Cavan u-21's from previous years would have done something by now.
I wouldnt necessarily agree there nrico2006. Perhaps your clutching at straws given Tyrones poor performances at this age group ;) Unfortunately Cavan find themselves in a difficult position having had a poor senior team for a number of years now. To expect the U21's of recent years to change things immediately is a huge ask. Recent successful U21 teams (Cork, Donegal, Dublin) have all had a core of very strong players to add 3-4 U21 graduates to.
That's exactly right Walter. The thing is for us to get back up playing at a high level we need to put a couple of good U21 teams together, which we have done, given the lack of quality senior players we've had for a decade now. Now we have to be patient with these lads and give them a chance to develop into quality players at senior level and then we too can perhaps look at adding 1 or 2 new players from U21 every year. Its a shame this success didnt come a few years earlier when the likes of McCabe, Peter Reilly and of course Larry etc were still playing.
Irish Times giving Kudos to Cavan for reaching their 3rd Final in a row....
Game is confirmed for Enniskillen.
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 04, 2013, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on April 04, 2013, 03:43:04 PM
I saw a stat today that Cavan have won 9 of their last 10 ulster u21 games, and the one they lost was the 2010 final to Donegal if I remember right. That sort of dominance surely has to turn into some sort of success in the future for Cavan seniors!
I don't think its a given that any major success will come from it. They haven't been blowing the opposition out of the water in any of the years, and how comparitive is Winter u-21 football to Summer senior football. Different players/teams seem to thrive in the conditions at this time of year. I suppose its all down to how many really stand out players each County has at u-21 or Minor and how many are picked up for senior. Some counties might do well at U-21 as they have a strong team that is solid all over whereas other counties mighn't necessarily win Ulster but could be bringing through more standout individuals from each year. You would think that a lot of the Cavan u-21's from previous years would have done something by now.
cavan are about as tactically progressive as the taliban are at interpreting the koran. doesn't help being stuck in the dark ages.
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 04, 2013, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on April 04, 2013, 03:43:04 PM
I saw a stat today that Cavan have won 9 of their last 10 ulster u21 games, and the one they lost was the 2010 final to Donegal if I remember right. That sort of dominance surely has to turn into some sort of success in the future for Cavan seniors!
I don't think its a given that any major success will come from it. They haven't been blowing the opposition out of the water in any of the years, and how comparitive is Winter u-21 football to Summer senior football. Different players/teams seem to thrive in the conditions at this time of year. I suppose its all down to how many really stand out players each County has at u-21 or Minor and how many are picked up for senior. Some counties might do well at U-21 as they have a strong team that is solid all over whereas other counties mighn't necessarily win Ulster but could be bringing through more standout individuals from each year. You would think that a lot of the Cavan u-21's from previous years would have done something by now.
cavan are about as tactically progressive as the taliban are at interpreting the koran. doesn't help being stuck in the dark ages.
What sort of a clueless tool are you. You'll know all about our progression next Wednesday.
Quote from: Itchy on April 04, 2013, 07:08:59 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 04, 2013, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on April 04, 2013, 03:43:04 PM
I saw a stat today that Cavan have won 9 of their last 10 ulster u21 games, and the one they lost was the 2010 final to Donegal if I remember right. That sort of dominance surely has to turn into some sort of success in the future for Cavan seniors!
I don't think its a given that any major success will come from it. They haven't been blowing the opposition out of the water in any of the years, and how comparitive is Winter u-21 football to Summer senior football. Different players/teams seem to thrive in the conditions at this time of year. I suppose its all down to how many really stand out players each County has at u-21 or Minor and how many are picked up for senior. Some counties might do well at U-21 as they have a strong team that is solid all over whereas other counties mighn't necessarily win Ulster but could be bringing through more standout individuals from each year. You would think that a lot of the Cavan u-21's from previous years would have done something by now.
cavan are about as tactically progressive as the taliban are at interpreting the koran. doesn't help being stuck in the dark ages.
What sort of a clueless tool are you. You'll know all about our progression next Wednesday.
ah you aul' taliban eejit... pay attention and follow a straightforward argument, if that's not beyond you.
the point is about your taliban tactics preventing you from achieving at senior level. you winning on wednesday won't change the fact that you're stuck in the dark ages tactically and your u21s success won't transfer to senior level until you develop some modern tactics. now is that clear enough for you or would you like me to draw you a picture?
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 07:28:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 04, 2013, 07:08:59 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 04, 2013, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on April 04, 2013, 03:43:04 PM
I saw a stat today that Cavan have won 9 of their last 10 ulster u21 games, and the one they lost was the 2010 final to Donegal if I remember right. That sort of dominance surely has to turn into some sort of success in the future for Cavan seniors!
I don't think its a given that any major success will come from it. They haven't been blowing the opposition out of the water in any of the years, and how comparitive is Winter u-21 football to Summer senior football. Different players/teams seem to thrive in the conditions at this time of year. I suppose its all down to how many really stand out players each County has at u-21 or Minor and how many are picked up for senior. Some counties might do well at U-21 as they have a strong team that is solid all over whereas other counties mighn't necessarily win Ulster but could be bringing through more standout individuals from each year. You would think that a lot of the Cavan u-21's from previous years would have done something by now.
cavan are about as tactically progressive as the taliban are at interpreting the koran. doesn't help being stuck in the dark ages.
What sort of a clueless tool are you. You'll know all about our progression next Wednesday.
ah you aul' taliban eejit... pay attention and follow a straightforward argument, if that's not beyond you.
the point is about your taliban tactics preventing you from achieving at senior level. you winning on wednesday won't change the fact that you're stuck in the dark ages tactically and your u21s success won't transfer to senior level until you develop some modern tactics. now is that clear enough for you or would you like me to draw you a picture?
(http://www.hurlingmad.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/jim-web.png)
he's a damn site better than a latchico like this buck...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,,2022342,00.html
Quote from: Westside on April 04, 2013, 05:04:52 PM
Irish Times giving Kudos to Cavan for reaching their 3rd Final in a row....
They got that wrong then, its Cavans 4th..
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 07:49:18 PM
he's a damn site better than a latchico like this buck...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,,2022342,00.html
Good old 'Mullagh' Omar.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 04, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 04, 2013, 05:04:52 PM
Irish Times giving Kudos to Cavan for reaching their 3rd Final in a row....
They got that wrong then, its Cavans 4th..
Exactly my point having earlier said about poor coverage of the 'weaker' counties.
Cadence what are Cavan's out of date tactics exactly?
Somebody from Donegal talking about tactics, ha, if Donegal had any ambition in Jim's first year they would have won the All Ireland, not waiting till the second, The cave man football only gets you so far, you need to attack and kick the ball over the bar. Possibly the worst game I ever saw was the All Ireland Semi in 2011 between Donegal and Dublin
Donegal with only McFadden up in the forwards ::)
Quote from: Westside on April 04, 2013, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 04, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 04, 2013, 05:04:52 PM
Irish Times giving Kudos to Cavan for reaching their 3rd Final in a row....
They got that wrong then, its Cavans 4th..
Exactly my point having earlier said about poor coverage of the 'weaker' counties.
Cadence what are Cavan's out of date tactics exactly?
you've got better, you get numbers back, but your defence is still wide open... oppostion gets over your 45 too easy. you don't contol the ball going forward. you're short passing game is shite and play breaks down before it gets into your inside forwards. i could go on.
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 04, 2013, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 04, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 04, 2013, 05:04:52 PM
Irish Times giving Kudos to Cavan for reaching their 3rd Final in a row....
They got that wrong then, its Cavans 4th..
Exactly my point having earlier said about poor coverage of the 'weaker' counties.
Cadence what are Cavan's out of date tactics exactly?
you've got better, you get numbers back, but your defence is still wide open... oppostion gets over your 45 too easy. you don't contol the ball going forward. you're short passing game is shite and play breaks down before it gets into your inside forwards. i could go on.
In other words Donegal before Jimmy arrived?
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 04, 2013, 09:36:41 PM
Somebody from Donegal talking about tactics, ha, if Donegal had any ambition in Jim's first year they would have won the All Ireland, not waiting till the second, The cave man football only gets you so far, you need to attack and kick the ball over the bar. Possibly the worst game I ever saw was the All Ireland Semi in 2011 between Donegal and Dublin
Donegal with only McFadden up in the forwards ::)
cavan boys on about tactics, fuckme the end of the world is nigh!
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 04, 2013, 10:01:31 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 04, 2013, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 04, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 04, 2013, 05:04:52 PM
Irish Times giving Kudos to Cavan for reaching their 3rd Final in a row....
They got that wrong then, its Cavans 4th..
Exactly my point having earlier said about poor coverage of the 'weaker' counties.
Cadence what are Cavan's out of date tactics exactly?
you've got better, you get numbers back, but your defence is still wide open... oppostion gets over your 45 too easy. you don't contol the ball going forward. you're short passing game is shite and play breaks down before it gets into your inside forwards. i could go on.
In other words Donegal before Jimmy arrived?
i wouldn't go that far. we always had the short running game. no defence suitable for the modern game though.
Would that not be a sign of players that are not good enough to implement a good game plan as opposed to out of date tactics? Which modern tactics improve ball control?
Donegal, the saviours of football. What a joke. How many Cavan senior games have you seen this year with new management team? None I'd say. Wise up and stop talking shite.
@ itchy bollocks... i've seen enough and you clearly have nofuckingidea about anything. but you're game aul' creter.
He is probaly basing it on a very inexperienced Cavan team, being opened up at times last year against Donegal in Breffni. Big deal, Donegal had a lot more experience, with Kavanagh, Gallagher, Lacey, McFadden, McGee, McGlynn, plus others. That's what happens to a team when the average age was 22.
We have a lot more experienced players back on the Senior panel this year.
This is fun :)
Quote from: Westside on April 04, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Would that not be a sign of players that are not good enough to implement a good game plan as opposed to out of date tactics? Which modern tactics improve ball control?
this is true. fitness might be a problem as well.
Quote from: tommysmith on April 04, 2013, 10:18:02 PM
This is fun :)
i know i was hoping to get myles but the whoer isn't biting!
Imagine how much better Cavan would be if Seanie was still available?
Quote from: Jinxy on April 04, 2013, 10:25:33 PM
Imagine how much better Cavan would be if Seanie was still available?
who?
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 10:19:28 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 04, 2013, 10:18:02 PM
This is fun :)
i know i was hoping to get myles but the whoer isn't biting!
He would be too experienced to fall for it though, unlike the kids...
Quote from: Jinxy on April 04, 2013, 10:25:33 PM
Imagine how much better Cavan would be if Seanie was still available?
I'm not sure if Sean Brady is still playing with Castlerahan or indeed if he is still in the country Jinxy.
He is a good player though.
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 10:15:08 PM
@ itchy bollocks... i've seen enough and you clearly have nofuckingidea about anything. but you're game aul' creter.
So none then.
Quote from: tommysmith on April 04, 2013, 10:29:08 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 10:19:28 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 04, 2013, 10:18:02 PM
This is fun :)
i know i was hoping to get myles but the whoer isn't biting!
He would be too experienced to fall for it though, unlike the kids...
i'll be canny the next time.
Quote from: Itchy on April 04, 2013, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 04, 2013, 10:15:08 PM
@ itchy bollocks... i've seen enough and you clearly have nofuckingidea about anything. but you're game aul' creter.
So none then.
jesus christ itchy.
I won't rise to the bait Cadence only to point out your on the board since 2011, about the same time that the "new wave" of Donegal fans came into being. Not sure what you were into before that, shooting crows or something. :D
I'd be disappointed if we don't win the final, I think we have the backs to keep McBrearty quiet and that seems to be the key to winning the game for us. However, in a final its all on the day and being favourite or being best on paper counts for little.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 05, 2013, 09:17:52 AM
I won't rise to the bait Cadence only to point out your on the board since 2011, about the same time that the "new wave" of Donegal fans came into being. Not sure what you were into before that, shooting crows or something. :D
I'd be disappointed if we don't win the final, I think we have the backs to keep McBrearty quiet and that seems to be the key to winning the game for us. However, in a final its all on the day and being favourite or being best on paper counts for little.
a forum i used to go on petered out, so i came on here to have fun with you.
you're favourites. stop acting like a big wane and stick the chest out.
Quote from: cadence on April 06, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 05, 2013, 09:17:52 AM
I won't rise to the bait Cadence only to point out your on the board since 2011, about the same time that the "new wave" of Donegal fans came into being. Not sure what you were into before that, shooting crows or something. :D
I'd be disappointed if we don't win the final, I think we have the backs to keep McBrearty quiet and that seems to be the key to winning the game for us. However, in a final its all on the day and being favourite or being best on paper counts for little.
a forum i used to go on petered out, so i came on here to have fun with you.
you're favourites. stop acting like a big wane and stick the chest out.
Did you have everyone's hole sickened over at that forum too :D
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2013, 06:13:03 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 06, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 05, 2013, 09:17:52 AM
I won't rise to the bait Cadence only to point out your on the board since 2011, about the same time that the "new wave" of Donegal fans came into being. Not sure what you were into before that, shooting crows or something. :D
I'd be disappointed if we don't win the final, I think we have the backs to keep McBrearty quiet and that seems to be the key to winning the game for us. However, in a final its all on the day and being favourite or being best on paper counts for little.
a forum i used to go on petered out, so i came on here to have fun with you.
you're favourites. stop acting like a big wane and stick the chest out.
Did you have everyone's hole sickened over at that forum too :D
you chat out of your hole.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2013, 06:13:03 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 06, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 05, 2013, 09:17:52 AM
I won't rise to the bait Cadence only to point out your on the board since 2011, about the same time that the "new wave" of Donegal fans came into being. Not sure what you were into before that, shooting crows or something. :D
I'd be disappointed if we don't win the final, I think we have the backs to keep McBrearty quiet and that seems to be the key to winning the game for us. However, in a final its all on the day and being favourite or being best on paper counts for little.
a forum i used to go on petered out, so i came on here to have fun with you.
you're favourites. stop acting like a big wane and stick the chest out.
Did you have everyone's hole sickened over at that forum too :D
;D
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 08:21:42 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2013, 06:13:03 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 06, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 05, 2013, 09:17:52 AM
I won't rise to the bait Cadence only to point out your on the board since 2011, about the same time that the "new wave" of Donegal fans came into being. Not sure what you were into before that, shooting crows or something. :D
I'd be disappointed if we don't win the final, I think we have the backs to keep McBrearty quiet and that seems to be the key to winning the game for us. However, in a final its all on the day and being favourite or being best on paper counts for little.
a forum i used to go on petered out, so i came on here to have fun with you.
you're favourites. stop acting like a big wane and stick the chest out.
Did you have everyone's hole sickened over at that forum too :D
;D
itchy bollocks... you chat out of your hole too.
why don't you join forces against me... or are you too mean even to do that? mcb!
We are too tactically inept to join forces.
So did you walk or were you pushed from this mysterious forum. Give us the forum name and I might look you up.
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 08:37:37 PM
We are too tactically inept to join forces.
So did you walk or were you pushed from this mysterious forum. Give us the forum name and I might look you up.
that's a shame. twice the fun.
anyway, either you or he can have a go at this one...
why do cavan men have long thin dicks?
Quote from: cadence on April 06, 2013, 08:52:00 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 08:37:37 PM
We are too tactically inept to join forces.
So did you walk or were you pushed from this mysterious forum. Give us the forum name and I might look you up.
that's a shame. twice the fun.
anyway, either you or he can have a go at this one...
why do cavan men have long thin dicks?
Who told you about Cavan men's dicks, your ma? :-*
Seriously ok have to stop now.
because you're tight-fisted bastards.
Quote from: cadence on April 06, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 05, 2013, 09:17:52 AM
I won't rise to the bait Cadence only to point out your on the board since 2011, about the same time that the "new wave" of Donegal fans came into being. Not sure what you were into before that, shooting crows or something. :D
I'd be disappointed if we don't win the final, I think we have the backs to keep McBrearty quiet and that seems to be the key to winning the game for us. However, in a final its all on the day and being favourite or being best on paper counts for little.
a forum i used to go on petered out
, so i came on here to have fun with you.
you're favourites. stop acting like a big wane and stick the chest out.
BEBO?
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 06, 2013, 11:00:46 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 06, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 05, 2013, 09:17:52 AM
I won't rise to the bait Cadence only to point out your on the board since 2011, about the same time that the "new wave" of Donegal fans came into being. Not sure what you were into before that, shooting crows or something. :D
I'd be disappointed if we don't win the final, I think we have the backs to keep McBrearty quiet and that seems to be the key to winning the game for us. However, in a final its all on the day and being favourite or being best on paper counts for little.
a forum i used to go on petered out
, so i came on here to have fun with you.
you're favourites. stop acting like a big wane and stick the chest out.
BEBO?
another tight-fisted cavan bastard... watch them pennies now! ;D
Quote from: cadence on April 06, 2013, 09:02:51 PM
because you're tight-fisted b**tards.
who is Stereotyping now ha. Go back and continue doing you're World Peace act.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 06, 2013, 11:45:27 PM
Quote from: cadence on April 06, 2013, 09:02:51 PM
because you're tight-fisted b**tards.
who is Stereotyping now ha. Go back and continue doing you're World Peace act.
stereotyping me arse, it's a well-known fact you're a tight shower. world peace would be achieved before you boys put you hand in your pockets to catch a hold of anything other than your dicks.
It was nice to get a run down on Niall Toibins comedy routine from 1988 there. Brings it all back.
Cavan 8/13
Draw 7/1
Donegal 13/8
Bookies make us warm favourites (paddy power) but its hardly the mad odds they had on Tyrone to beat Donegal. I expect I tough slog.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2013, 01:17:45 PM
It was nice to get a run down on Niall Toibins comedy routine from 1988 there. Brings it all back.
Cavan 8/13
Draw 7/1
Donegal 13/8
Bookies make us warm favourites (paddy power) but its hardly the mad odds they had on Tyrone to beat Donegal. I expect I tough slog.
dunno who he is. to be fair, apart from being tight, cavan folk are hardly a rich source of comic material, gausin.
He's from Cork you clown. What age are you, 15?
Quote from: Itchy on April 07, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
He's from Cork you clown. What age are you, 15?
shouldn't you be over on the male grooming thread chatting about having doing a bit of mutual itchy bollocks shaving with myles you pair of tight fisted wankers.
I haven't read the last few pages,but would i be correct in summarizing this by saying that Cadence has been asking Itchy,Rodney and Myles to "tightfist him" non stop for a number of posts now.
Mods do something about this,It's not very PG.
Grandad anglo here, just reported the clown to the mods, think he strayed in from askfm.
I don't think he likes me very much. Anyway, any chance of some changes for Wednesday? I think we have the backs to limit mcbrearty as much as you can limit a player of his ability. I hear he has been going out the field too so we need to have a plan for that.
Big Cavan wanes. Itchy... Couldn't be further from the truth I think you're hilarious.
I think Peter will send out either McLoughlin or Flanagan and tell them to climb up McBrearty's hole for the evening. Don't see any unforced changes being made to the starting line up. There should be a great crowd in Brewster for it, hopefully it's a good evening. The goals killed us in 2010, hopefully we can keep our concentration at the back.
Don't forget the male grooming gausins.
I believe mcbrearty was "cut" against the dubs and McHugh a doubt with a calf strain. Genuine or mind games?
Quote from: Itchy on April 08, 2013, 10:50:21 PM
I believe mcbrearty was "cut" against the dubs and McHugh a doubt with a calf strain. Genuine or mind games?
According to the radio some Hungry Dub bit him but he will be ok to play the game tomorrow. I'd say McHugh will be too.
Wow! Look! Tight fists everywhere! ;D
(http://www.inpho.ie/cache/inpho/a1/66/20/028be7e2bd347ecd3785fc7afc3577baa77cc2e1b2/INPHO_00686999.jpg)
3 in a row at U-21, Some going, not sure who last done that, i know Tyrone did in the early 90`s, not sure if the tyrone team of the early 00`s did the same?
Well done to our lads. Not bad considering we haven't a clue tactically. Only for the class act that is mcbrearty we would have won by 10.
Fair play to the lads, bound to have a positive impact on the seniors down the line.
Winning 3 out of 4 finals is some achievement and to do it 4 years in a row is amazing!!
Long may it continue!!
Delighted for Cavan. Great county.
Quote from: tyrone86 on April 11, 2013, 12:26:34 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 10, 2013, 11:55:35 PM
3 in a row at U-21, Some going, not sure who last done that, i know Tyrone did in the early 90`s, not sure if the tyrone team of the early 00`s did the same?
The early 00s Tyrone U21s won 4 Ulster's in a row; 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003.
Two All Irelands those Tyrone sides won and Cavan now play Cork who have won 3 in a row Munster titles.
Well done to the Cavan men. We almost scraped our way back into it towards the end, but by all accounts Cavan were by far the better team. It would be nice to see them go all the way now!
Be class to go all the way now, up against a quality Cork side the Semi's in Tullamore, Cavan didn't perform last year in the All Ireland Semi against Ross, minus 3 key players. Hopefully this year with everyone available, we can go all the way.
I thought cadance would have been on to congratulate us by now. Soar loser perhaps. Thankfully the Donegal people at the game were very gracious in defeat and we wish them well for next year. Onward and upward for this team of Cavan winners.
Quote from: Itchy on April 11, 2013, 09:29:32 PM
I thought cadance would have been on to congratulate us by now. Soar loser perhaps. Thankfully the Donegal people at the game were very gracious in defeat and we wish them well for next year. Onward and upward for this team of Cavan winners.
Aye those 4 people were fierce nice in fairness... ;D
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 12, 2013, 12:37:37 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 11, 2013, 09:29:32 PM
I thought cadance would have been on to congratulate us by now. Soar loser perhaps. Thankfully the Donegal people at the game were very gracious in defeat and we wish them well for next year. Onward and upward for this team of Cavan winners.
Aye those 4 people were fierce nice in fairness... ;D
Pitiful numbers at the game from Donegal alright, you'd think their AI win would have lifted their support a bit. It was always a bit flakey anyway, back when they werent winning anything. Still you do get the genuine people when numbers are low and not the bandwagon hoppers. McBrearty is some player too, but so is Gerry Smith!
Donegal Supporters came to Breffni in the first round of the Seniors last year and completely outnumbered and out shouted us.. I distinctly remember Donegal running on to the field to a fantastic roar, Cavan ran on to a smattering of applause that died within seconds.
That was because Cavan had low expectation after a disastrous league, this year wasn't quite as bad. They were coming on the back of winning Ulster the following year and had confidence in the Senior team.
That may be so but I'm just saying people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Our own Senior support has been pitiful at times, even winning two Ulster U21s in a row didn't bring us out in numbers for the Senior game to cheer on the same lads that had given us two trophies in two years. We shouldn't be judging Donegal's support the other night, our own is far from perfect.
Cavan have a hardcore of around 2000 and the rest jump on the bandwagon when a few games are won.
Just look at the number in Croke park for the all ireland U-21 final in 2011 compared to the first round and even Ulster final that year.
Tommy, Cadence is a perfect example. Full of talk before the match and abandoned ship after defeat. Probably gone back supporting Finn Harps or back to the other secretive forum.
I'd imagine every county would get the bandwagon support for an All Ireland final day, Cavan support at u21 level in the last 4 years has been very good. Senior results and form have turned supporters off in the past, the Donegal hiding in 2011 in Breffni, the hiding in Cork in 2010, and the Kildare hammering last year in Breffni along with dire league form.
Still a solid base of 2k going. this year League form was solid enough until the last game against Ross, an awful show