Any thoughts?
Course hasn't been played by most of the players which should make things interesting. Supposed to get very windy and play like a links course. Also supposed to favour the big hitters with wide
fairways.
Bubba
Louis
Dustin
Padraig
Graeme
Did I hear correctly that there are no bunkers on this course?
There's bunkers and lots of "waste land" - sandy areas, not sure how the rules will govern them.
I'm not sure about Padraig's chances. I followed him at the weekend around the Reno Tahoe Open and he just wasn't playing any kind of golf that might shoot low scores. Not to mention is putter seems very cold.
That said, it'd be great to see him win.
Apparently all bunkers are being treated as waste ground, ie grounding of club and practice swing allowed.
Small ew on padraig due to wide fairways, his links record and his record in majors in us this year.
You are right though, more likely to be a big hitter that wins it.
Had this anything to do with Dustin Johnson grouding his club on sand/waste ground at 2010 PGA?
Probably best to define what is and isn't a bunker before tournament starts.
That's weird you can ground your club and practice swing - there are a few greenside bunkers evident on the tour of the course.
http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/course/tour/1 (http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/course/tour/1)
My bets for the weekend - Dustin Johnston, Matt Kucher and Brandt Snedeker. 2 each way shouts - JJ Henry and Paul Lawrie.
Duffner has to be close for a major.
Its 7,700 yards long so the likes of Dustin Johnson, Webb Simpson. Mcilroy and Bubba and been backed all week.
From reports its similar to Whistling straits where Kaymer won from Bubba and Johnson grounded the club in 2010.
Have done these few for interest
Bill Haas 80/1
Ryan Palmer 125/1
Carl Pettersson 150/1
Ogilvy 100/1
Harrington 60/1
First round leaders
DJ & VJ
Robert Karrlson 200-1
Peter Hanson 125-1
Ian Poulter 80-1
Martin Kaymer 66-1
Jim Furyk 50-1
Zach Johnson 50-1
Padraig Harrington 40-1
Matt Kuchar 33-1
Had to do Luke Donald E/W again as he's pulled it out of the bag for me on a couple of occasions to get my money back.
Also have Adam Scott on the nose as I think he will do a McIlroy and bounce back from a major defeat. . . should be a good tournament and I'm looking forward to it.
one of the things about the PGA this year is that the greens are an unusual type of grass. The thing about this is the other place its used is the bears club, which is the home of many top pros in Florida. Including Keegan Bradley, Luke Donald, Dustin Johnson, and renting there for the year, Mr McIlroy.
Have a look at some of the property there...
http://www.jeffrealty.com/bears-club
I like this one for a cool $12.9M
(http://www.jeffrealty.com/images/mls/69067224-01.jpg)
Quote from: laoislad on August 07, 2012, 08:32:22 PM
Had this anything to do with Dustin Johnson grouding his club on sand/waste ground at 2010 PGA?
Probably best to define what is and isn't a bunker before tournament starts.
That's the thing though, it was deemed a bunker, his caddie and himself actually failed to read a notice taped to his locker that explained, in detail the rules regarding the bunkers at the course.
I have played that course three or four times and that is one of the first things the caddies tell you so that was on Johnson and his caddie, everyone else got the memo.
Done McIlroy, Poulter 80's, Goosen 125's and Pat Perez @ 300/1 all each way.
Was gonna do Pettersson at 100/1 so where did you get the 150/1 Rossie11?? I didnt in the end, went for Poulter instead... :-\
Weather looks alot more favourable today and Tiger started off brightly
Harrington just sunk an 80 footer for an eagle on #2.
What's happened to Mickelson's putting? Miguel Angel going well, I'd love for him to bag a big one.
Rory starting to slip back. 2 under currently.Still only 3 off the lead.
At some stage he will learn to play conservatively sometimes a par is ok on a par 5.
Quote from: Orangemac on August 10, 2012, 10:25:55 PM
Rory starting to slip back. 2 under currently.Still only 3 off the lead.
At some stage he will learn to play conservatively sometimes a par is ok on a par 5.
It's always good(and rare) in my book!
Rory on charge today ...
I took him at 20's at the start of the week, thought it was a crazy price
Michael Hoey disqualified.
http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/news/notebook-michael-hoey-disqualified-after-incident-sand (http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/news/notebook-michael-hoey-disqualified-after-incident-sand)
His ball was plugged in a bunker so he had to lift it to check it was his. But when he replaced it he forgot to cover it in sand. Pity, because he had been playing well.
McIlroy -7, leading by 3 after the third round. Harrington, McDowell -1.
Any good links to watch on P.C? I was trying on MyP2P but it asks me to download some player to view. Don't fancy that. Used to work without doing that.
mypremium.tv
Select Sky Sports 1.
Quote from: Hardy on August 12, 2012, 05:22:01 PM
mypremium.tv
Select Sky Sports 1.
Cheers Hardy. Though i still had to download something called iLivid player. Will scan pc later.
I've been using MyPremium.tv so long I'd forgotten I'd downloaded that. The good news is it's never caused me any problems, AFAIK.
Mcillroy off to a good start in the 4th rd. he is now -9
Poultice making a move?
Poulter on some charge now. Got him and McIlroy backed so gotta win something tonight surely!!
You're in great shape, sammy. What odds did you get?
80 on Poulter, 16 on McIlroy. Wrong man in front but still, i have more on Poulter than McIlroy too, still great to see another Major heading to these shores.
Rory in a great position to win this. He is playing very well, and Poulter's 2 bogeys, the pressure is off a little. Come on Rory......
Not a fan of either Golfer but would hate to see Poulter win.
Quote from: give her dixie on August 12, 2012, 10:07:36 PM
Rory in a great position to win this. He is playing very well, and Poulter's 2 bogeys, the pressure is off a little. Come on Rory......
Whats the latest, the USPGA website hasnt updated in a while
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 12, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on August 12, 2012, 10:07:36 PM
Rory in a great position to win this. He is playing very well, and Poulter's 2 bogeys, the pressure is off a little. Come on Rory......
Whats the latest, the USPGA website hasnt updated in a while
According to the website McIlroy is 5 clear at -10 thru 11 with Poulter behind him on -5 thru 15.
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2012, 10:09:52 PM
Not a fan of either Golfer but would hate to see Poulter win.
You don't not like Rory LL ?
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 12, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on August 12, 2012, 10:07:36 PM
Rory in a great position to win this. He is playing very well, and Poulter's 2 bogeys, the pressure is off a little. Come on Rory......
Whats the latest, the USPGA website hasnt updated in a while
6 up with 6 to play - Poulter only 3 to play. In the bag surely ?
Great birdie from Rory to stretch out his lead. Looking good Rory.
Thanks for the update I'm not allowed the remote.
Quote from: the Deel Rover on August 12, 2012, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2012, 10:09:52 PM
Not a fan of either Golfer but would hate to see Poulter win.
You don't not like Rory LL ?
Nah.
He has too much hair.
Hardy's link works great if you cant get the remote
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 12, 2012, 10:21:50 PM
Thanks for the update I'm not allowed the remote.
http://mypremium.tv/
Watch it on line....
Stuck on a train in the way to work. Would appreciate any updates.
Quote from: stephenite on August 12, 2012, 10:30:16 PM
Stuck on a train in the way to work. Would appreciate any updates.
In Summary
-11: Rory McIlroy (after hole 12)
-5: Ian Poulter (15), Carl Pettersson (12)
-4: Justin Rose (18), Keegan Bradley (17), Bo Van Pelt (12)
-3: Blake Adams (18), Graeme McDowell (15), Jamie Donaldson (15), David Lynn (14), Peter Hanson (14), Tiger Woods (14)
Selected others: P Harrington -2 (14), V Singh +1 (13), P Mickelson +3 (18), P Lawrie +5 (18)
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2012, 10:09:52 PM
Not a fan of either Golfer but would hate to see Poulter win.
Not too keen on rory, he is too serious, seems like a dryshite. Poulter is an absolute f**king plonker and a big headed ****, would hate to see him win any major.
Cheers Dixie, much obliged.
Quote from: stephenite on August 12, 2012, 10:30:16 PM
Stuck on a train in the way to work. Would appreciate any updates.
McIlroy -11 after 13, 6 ahead.
McIlroy on form is a savage golfer, pity he couldn't be more consistent.
Quote from: trileacman on August 12, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
McIlroy on form is a savage golfer, pity he couldn't be more consistent.
He needs to be more consistent consistently, as Wenger would say.
Rory is the only player in the top eight not to drop a shot so far today. Lets hope he keeps this incredible form up...
Quote from: Minder on August 12, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 12, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
McIlroy on form is a savage golfer, pity he couldn't be more consistent.
He needs to be more consistent consistently, as Wenger would say.
Guaranteed Gold for Team GB in Rio....
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2012, 10:45:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 12, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 12, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
McIlroy on form is a savage golfer, pity he couldn't be more consistent.
He needs to be more consistent consistently, as Wenger would say.
Guaranteed Gold for Team GB in Rio....
If that's his choice, what of it?
Quote from: stephenite on August 12, 2012, 10:46:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2012, 10:45:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 12, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 12, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
McIlroy on form is a savage golfer, pity he couldn't be more consistent.
He needs to be more consistent consistently, as Wenger would say.
Guaranteed Gold for Team GB in Rio....
If that's his choice, what of it?
Did I say there was anything of it?
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2012, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: stephenite on August 12, 2012, 10:46:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2012, 10:45:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 12, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 12, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
McIlroy on form is a savage golfer, pity he couldn't be more consistent.
He needs to be more consistent consistently, as Wenger would say.
Guaranteed Gold for Team GB in Rio....
If that's his choice, what of it?
Did I say there was anything of it?
By bringing it up, when it's completely unrelated, yes, you did.
Quote from: Minder on August 12, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 12, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
McIlroy on form is a savage golfer, pity he couldn't be more consistent.
He needs to be more consistent consistently, as Wenger would say.
Ah four days isn't too much to ask.
Rory saves par on 14..
In Summary
-11: Rory McIlroy (after hole 15)
-5: David Lynn (17)
-4: Justin Rose (18), Keegan Bradley (18), Ian Poulter (18), Peter Hanson (16), Carl Pettersson (15)
-3: Blake Adams (18), Jamie Donaldson (18)
Selected others: G McDowell -2 (18), T Woods -2 (16), B Van Pelt -2 (15), P Harrington -1 (17), V Singh level (16), L Donald +2 (18), P Mickelson +3 (18), P Lawrie +5 (18)
Rory birdies and goes to -12. He has it with 2 to play....
Pars the 17th and goes onto the 18th 7 shots ahead.
What a reception Rory got walking to the green on the 18th. Brilliant.
Birdie, 8 shot winner.
What a finish Rory. Well done, and what a way to finish. You sure are a special talent on the course.
Quote from: stephenite on August 12, 2012, 10:51:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2012, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: stephenite on August 12, 2012, 10:46:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2012, 10:45:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 12, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 12, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
McIlroy on form is a savage golfer, pity he couldn't be more consistent.
He needs to be more consistent consistently, as Wenger would say.
Guaranteed Gold for Team GB in Rio....
If that's his choice, what of it?
Did I say there was anything of it?
By bringing it up, when it's completely unrelated, yes, you did.
Whats stopping him declaring for Team Ireland??
What a performance to win his second Major ... If he can get some consistency now, few if any can beat him.
Whats stopping him declaring for Team Ireland??
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Nothing i guess, as someone said it's his choice.
Quote from: dillinger on August 13, 2012, 12:45:38 AM
Whats stopping him declaring for Team Ireland??
Nothing i guess, as someone said it's his choice.
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http://www.irishcentral.com/sport/Sports-Digest--Padraig-Harrington-says-Rory-McIlroy-should-be-British-for-2016-Olympics-139008729.html
Rory was different class over the last two days ...
Padraig is only saying this because on Current form rory and Graeme would keep him out of competing in the Olympics.
I think the 2 guys will keep everyone guessing as to who they will represent. But what should show as a hint is the fact that they both represent Ireland in the golf world cup.
another plus might be the fact that you are a bigger star if you win a medal for Ireland. they will just be another fish in the pond for GB and their 60 odd medals.
By the way Rory well one. Keep it up son.
Plus golf is organised on an All-Ireland basis, so it's not exactly a 50-50 choice. Declaring for GB would be a departure from what would be expected.
If either himself or G. mac consider themselves more British than Irish, they are within their rights to declare for Team GB, and they shouldn't feel bad about it nor have to explain themselves.
That said, I'd say the pair of them would nearly rather they kept their sport out of the Olympics, if there was ever a case of damned if you do/don't. Abuse from all angles no matter who they represent.
Exactly.
Quote from: stephenite on August 13, 2012, 11:50:38 AM
If either himself or G. mac consider themselves more British than Irish, they are within their rights to declare for Team GB, and they shouldn't feel bad about it nor have to explain themselves.
That said, I'd say the pair of them would nearly rather they kept their sport out of the Olympics, if there was ever a case of damned if you do/don't. Abuse from all angles no matter who they represent.
I'd say it's quite possible neither will compete and who could blame them.
Well done again to Rory. He is frighteningly accurate when he hits form and then if his putter starts to work - well he's unbeatable then. Younger than Tiger when Tiger won his second major I believe.
I think its only fair they should announce their intentions now so some people can start to claim they never liked them/always thought they where great guys well in advance.
No dont be like that. Good man Rory keep them majors coming...
Perhaps they should line up with this crowd
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02n11NnaMve6V/613x459.jpg?fit=scale&background=000000)
Quote from: nifan on August 13, 2012, 01:43:52 PM
I think its only fair they should announce their intentions now so some people can start to claim they never liked them/always thought they where great guys well in advance.
Most people have an opinion on that one already without them having to declare for anyone yet!!
There is no question. Like boxing, golf is organised on an all Ireland basis.
Quote from: screenexile on August 13, 2012, 03:21:20 PM
Quote from: nifan on August 13, 2012, 01:43:52 PM
I think its only fair they should announce their intentions now so some people can start to claim they never liked them/always thought they where great guys well in advance.
Most people have an opinion on that one already without them having to declare for anyone yet!!
I like GMac regardless of who he declares for. There!
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 13, 2012, 10:27:57 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 13, 2012, 03:21:20 PM
Quote from: nifan on August 13, 2012, 01:43:52 PM
I think its only fair they should announce their intentions now so some people can start to claim they never liked them/always thought they where great guys well in advance.
Most people have an opinion on that one already without them having to declare for anyone yet!!
I like GMac regardless of who he declares for. There!
Me too, I would be a far bigger fan of GMac than Mcilroy.
Why is it that every time McIlroy wins something that people on this board are more concerned with his religion and nationality? Change the record.
Is it cos Rory is a catholic with what seems to be very protestant based idealisms and tendencies and the fact that he hasn't been drawn on the issue? :-X
No. It's because too many people in this country are still concerned with mediaeval labels.
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 14, 2012, 09:00:32 AM
Why is it that every time McIlroy wins something that people on this board are more concerned with his religion and nationality? Change the record.
(http://www.irishnews.com/PictureArchives/1181163/A09P301-02.jpg)
Quote from: Hardy on August 14, 2012, 01:16:21 PM
No. It's because too many people in this country are still concerned with mediaeval labels.
there ya have it then nrico2006! :P
Quote from: snoopdog on August 13, 2012, 11:27:00 AM
Padraig is only saying this because on Current form rory and Graeme would keep him out of competing in the Olympics.
I think the 2 guys will keep everyone guessing as to who they will represent. But what should show as a hint is the fact that they both represent Ireland in the golf world cup.
If Harrington is in the Top 15 in the world in 4 years time he need not worry as the Top 15 will qualify regardless of country.
You would imagine Mcilroy will be in the top 15 but you would doubt if Gmac or Harrington will be.
After the top 15 are known then the next 45 players representing countries that do not already have two representatives will qualify.
As for Gmac and Mcilroy representing Ireland at the World Cup,well there was no one else they could have played for.
There is no Team GB in Golf (outside of the Olympics) and they couldn't play for England,Scotland or Wales so Ireland was their only option apart of course from the option of not playing at all.
Quote from: laoislad on August 14, 2012, 01:39:27 PM
You would imagine Mcilroy will be in the top 15 but you would doubt if Gmac or Harrington will be.
wouldn't be so quick to dismiss GMAC- I'd say he'll be there or thereabouts...
GUI is a 32-county body so McIlroy has to represent Ireland or get off the island altogether! ;)
Quote from: laoislad on August 14, 2012, 01:39:27 PMAs for Gmac and Mcilroy representing Ireland at the World Cup,well there was no one else they could have played for.
There is no Team GB in Golf (outside of the Olympics) and they couldn't play for England,Scotland or Wales so Ireland was their only option apart of course from the option of not playing at all.
Nice attempt at "squaring the circle" there, LL, but there is no logical resolution to this.
For example, "Great Britain" is not a Nation State, but the UK is, and the UK includes NI. By contrast, Golf in Ireland is organised on an all-Ireland basis, yet Rory and GMac etc get designated as "Northern Irish" by the PGA/R&A. The Olympic Committee of Ireland claims to represent the whole of the island, yet "Team GB" [
sic] may pick athletes from NI, since the official (i.e. not "brand") name of the team is "Great Britain and Northern Ireland". And as regards precedent, the only other time Golf had national team entries in the Games was pre-partition, so the only "local" team competed under the name "Great Britain and Ireland".
I personally don't believe Golf should be in the Games, but if it must, my take is as follows. People from NI are automatically entitled to call themselves British or Irish or both. Therefore they should be entitled to choose for themselves whether they are "British" golfers or "Irish" ones.
As for which they might choose, assuming Rory is in the world's top 15 come 2016 (v.likely but by not guaranteed, imo), then I suspect he will go "British" - if nothing else, his Agent/Sponsors/Corporate backers etc would see the financial advantage to this. And as Harrington argues, it would also free up a place for another Irish golfer.
As for Gmac, I doubt he will be top 15 by then, but it's possible and if he is, I strongly suspect he would opt to be British. That said, if the only way he could 'make the cut' would be by being "Irish", and he's bothered about being an Olympian, then that may be his choice (imo).
And however it turns out, insofar as I can summon up any enthusiasm for Olympic Golf, good luck to both of them.
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 14, 2012, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 14, 2012, 01:39:27 PMAs for Gmac and Mcilroy representing Ireland at the World Cup,well there was no one else they could have played for.
There is no Team GB in Golf (outside of the Olympics) and they couldn't play for England,Scotland or Wales so Ireland was their only option apart of course from the option of not playing at all.
Nice attempt at "squaring the circle" there, LL, but there is no logical resolution to this.
For example, "Great Britain" is not a Nation State, but the UK is, and the UK includes NI. By contrast, Golf in Ireland is organised on an all-Ireland basis, yet Rory and GMac etc get designated as "Northern Irish" by the PGA/R&A. The Olympic Committee of Ireland claims to represent the whole of the island, yet "Team GB" [sic] may pick athletes from NI, since the official (i.e. not "brand") name of the team is "Great Britain and Northern Ireland". And as regards precedent, the only other time Golf had national team entries in the Games was pre-partition, so the only "local" team competed under the name "Great Britain and Ireland".
I personally don't believe Golf should be in the Games, but if it must, my take is as follows. People from NI are automatically entitled to call themselves British or Irish or both. Therefore they should be entitled to choose for themselves whether they are "British" golfers or "Irish" ones.
As for which they might choose, assuming Rory is in the world's top 15 come 2016 (v.likely but by not guaranteed, imo), then I suspect he will go "British" - if nothing else, his Agent/Sponsors/Corporate backers etc would see the financial advantage to this. And as Harrington argues, it would also free up a place for another Irish golfer.
As for Gmac, I doubt he will be top 15 by then, but it's possible and if he is, I strongly suspect he would opt to be British. That said, if the only way he could 'make the cut' would be by being "Irish", and he's bothered about being an Olympian, then that may be his choice (imo).
And however it turns out, insofar as I can summon up any enthusiasm for Olympic Golf, good luck to both of them.
Not sure either Great Britain or the UK are nation states. Sovereign entities or sovereign states maybe but not nation states. There are very few nation states left as far as I can see.
Quote from: baoithe on August 14, 2012, 04:05:25 PMNot sure either Great Britain or the UK are nation states. Sovereign entities or sovereign states maybe but not nation states. There are very few nation states left as far as I can see.
I think I see the distinction you make, so fair enough.
Can we compromise on the UK being a "Member State of the United Nations", then?
Does nobody rate Gmac? I think he'll still be well in the top 15 in four years time!
Quote from: screenexile on August 14, 2012, 04:47:47 PM
Does nobody rate Gmac? I think he'll still be well in the top 15 in four years time!
Well he's 13th at the moment, so that's inside, but not comfortably inside the Top 15. A lot can and will change in the next 4 years.
I hadnt realised that outside the Top 15, it was limited to 2 per country. No wonder Podge wants them to be Brits!
All joking aside, its going to be a massive issue for both Rory and G Mac.
While many sports of the Olympics are individual events, its hugely important which country you are representing. Jingoism is a massive part of the Olympics. Whereas in normal day-to-day golf its doesnt matter what country you're from, and with the World Cup there is no option for them other than to represent Ireland.
I'd be pretty confident that both of them will select Ireland, regardless of whether they are in the Top 15 or not. Neither of them court controversy, but there'll be consternation among Paddy Irishman if they chose Team GB, whereas Paddy Englishman, Scotman or Welshmen wouldnt give a damn who they chose.
Quote from: Hound on August 14, 2012, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 14, 2012, 04:47:47 PM
Does nobody rate Gmac? I think he'll still be well in the top 15 in four years time!
Well he's 13th at the moment, so that's inside, but not comfortably inside the Top 15. A lot can and will change in the next 4 years.
I hadnt realised that outside the Top 15, it was limited to 2 per country. No wonder Podge wants them to be Brits!
All joking aside, its going to be a massive issue for both Rory and G Mac.
While many sports of the Olympics are individual events, its hugely important which country you are representing. Jingoism is a massive part of the Olympics. Whereas in normal day-to-day golf its doesnt matter what country you're from, and with the World Cup there is no option for them other than to represent Ireland.
I'd be pretty confident that both of them will select Ireland, regardless of whether they are in the Top 15 or not. Neither of them court controversy, but there'll be consternation among Paddy Irishman if they chose Team GB, whereas Paddy Englishman, Scotman or Welshmen wouldnt give a damn who they chose.
I pity them tbh, fucked if you do and fucked if you don't. It will be taken by one side to turn you in a Billy/taig or castle catholic.
Quote from: Hound on August 14, 2012, 05:06:06 PM
I'd be pretty confident that both of them will select Ireland, regardless of whether they are in the Top 15 or not. Neither of them court controversy, but there'll be consternation among Paddy Irishman if they chose Team GB, whereas Paddy Englishman, Scotman or Welshmen wouldnt give a damn who they chose.
But Billy Ulsterman might give a damn.
Quote from: dec on August 15, 2012, 12:09:27 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 14, 2012, 05:06:06 PM
I'd be pretty confident that both of them will select Ireland, regardless of whether they are in the Top 15 or not. Neither of them court controversy, but there'll be consternation among Paddy Irishman if they chose Team GB, whereas Paddy Englishman, Scotman or Welshmen wouldnt give a damn who they chose.
But Billy Ulsterman might give a damn.
That would cause a serious outbreak of acute SUFTUM!!!
Quote from: sammymaguire on August 14, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
Is it cos Rory is a catholic with what seems to be very protestant based idealisms and tendencies and the fact that he hasn't been drawn on the issue? :-X
I think Rory is the first obvious generation of human being in the north who does not give a shite about what transpired prior to their birth and I applaud him for that.
I am old school, I would prefer he declared for us but if he declares for the brits I will still wish him well, at least he is capable of independent thought and he is a very likeable young man, fair fcuks to him.
G mac is another great young man, lets celebrate the feck out of these players, I love Darren Clarke, he is the consummate everyman and he is one of us, as is G Mac, Rory and Harrington, fcuk sake, this era will probably never happen again, put aside the tribal bullshite and be happy for your own, orange or green, at this stage......................who gives a fcuk!
Quote from: stew on August 15, 2012, 02:04:29 AM
Quote from: sammymaguire on August 14, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
Is it cos Rory is a catholic with what seems to be very protestant based idealisms and tendencies and the fact that he hasn't been drawn on the issue? :-X
I think Rory is the first obvious generation of human being in the north who does not give a shite about what transpired prior to their birth and I applaud him for that.
I am old school, I would prefer he declared for us but if he declares for the brits I will still wish him well, at least he is capable of independent thought and he is a very likeable young man, fair fcuks to him.
G mac is another great young man, lets celebrate the feck out of these players, I love Darren Clarke, he is the consummate everyman and he is one of us, as is G Mac, Rory and Harrington, fcuk sake, this era will probably never happen again, put aside the tribal bullshite and be happy for your own, orange or green, at this stage......................who gives a fcuk!
Nail on head.
Quote from: stew on August 15, 2012, 02:04:29 AM
Quote from: sammymaguire on August 14, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
Is it cos Rory is a catholic with what seems to be very protestant based idealisms and tendencies and the fact that he hasn't been drawn on the issue? :-X
I think Rory is the first obvious generation of human being in the north who does not give a shite about what transpired prior to their birth and I applaud him for that.
I am old school, I would prefer he declared for us but if he declares for the brits I will still wish him well, at least he is capable of independent thought and he is a very likeable young man, fair fcuks to him.
G mac is another great young man, lets celebrate the feck out of these players, I love Darren Clarke, he is the consummate everyman and he is one of us, as is G Mac, Rory and Harrington, fcuk sake, this era will probably never happen again, put aside the tribal bullshite and be happy for your own, orange or green, at this stage......................who gives a fcuk!
I must confess to giving a fcuk about these things . . . but I wouldn't go to war over it. As you say, I'd hope they'd choose to golf for Ireland but good luck to them whatever path they choose
I wonder why the press dont give much weight to the sporting pedigree on his Mother's side?
We hear a lot about how his Dad was once a scratch handicapper, but I was at school with his uncle Mickey McDonald. He was a brilliant gaelic footballer for St Colmans and Armagh and a decent soccer player for Glenavon and Cliftonville (I think). I also remember sports day in St Colmans and Mickey showed signs of being a great decathlon athlete.
PS. Why was Rory's uncle shot dead?
Quote from: Orior on August 15, 2012, 01:07:22 PM
I wonder why the press dont give much weight to the sporting pedigree on his Mother's side?
We hear a lot about how his Dad was once a scratch handicapper, but I was at school with his uncle Mickey McDonald. He was a brilliant gaelic footballer for St Colmans and Armagh and a decent soccer player for Glenavon and Cliftonville (I think). I also remember sports day in St Colmans and Mickey showed signs of being a great decathlon athlete.
PS. Why was Rory's uncle shot dead?
I knew Mickey quite well, he was an excellent footballer and always had a smile on his face, his mustache was cheesier than Tom Sellicks though!
As for why Rory's uncle was shot dead, consider the times he lived in and the thousands of others who died in similar fashion.
Was Mickey McDonald shot dead, or wasit another uncle?
Quote from: Oraisteach on August 15, 2012, 07:18:28 PM
Was Mickey McDonald shot dead, or wasit another uncle?
Police in Northern Ireland are to re-open investigations into the sectarian murder of Rory McIlroy's great uncle at the height of the troubles.
Joseph McIlroy, brother of Rory's golfing grandfather Jimmy, was targeted by the UVF simply because he was a Catholic living in the Protestant area of Orangefield, near Holywood, where Rory's side of the McIlroy family still reside.
The father of four was gunned down in his own kitchen in 1972 after loyalist paramilitaries had camped out in his garden.
Jimmy McIlroy was fixing the washing machine when the gunmen opened fire through the back door of the family home as his four daughters slept upstairs.
His young wife Mary had just gone into the living room when the gunmen pounced, aiming at a target visible through the frosted back door but not identifiable as man, woman or child.
The inquest into the November 1972 killing heard that Jimmy staggered into the living room after five rounds of gunfire.
"I put my arms around him and then I noticed my hands were covered in blood. I ran screaming into the street," Mary McIlroy told the inquest.
Police at the time made it clear that Joseph McIlroy, known to his friends as Joe, was shot merely because he had moved his Catholic family into the Protestant Orangefield area of East Belfast.
No-one has ever been charged and convicted of the killing of Joseph McIlroy, one of hundreds of unsolved murders now being re-examined by the Police Service of Northern Ireland.
The story came to light at the weekend as internet chat-rooms debated Rory McIlroy's Irishness and the swift disappearance of an Irish tricolor thrown in his direction minutes after his US Open win at Congressional.
Some loyalist fans in the North have claimed the disappearance of the flag as a victory for their cause, others have confirmed that the Catholic McIlroy has no interest in the politics of Northern Ireland's past.
His parents Gerry and Rosie are both Catholics. Gerry's father Jimmy, the first McIlroy to grace the fairways of Holywood golf club, was one of the first Catholics to work in the Harlaand and Wolf shipyard.
QuoteGerry's father Jimmy, the first McIlroy to grace the fairways of Holywood golf club, was one of the first Catholics to work in the Harlaand and Wolf shipyard.
One of the first Catholics to work in the Haarland and Wolf shipyard? What age is he, 100?
I disn't know anything about that. I must say it makes the muppet eho threw him the tricolour as Congressional look like some clown and makes this whole "who will he declare for" shite moot.
Quote from: armaghniac on August 15, 2012, 07:37:58 PM
QuoteGerry's father Jimmy, the first McIlroy to grace the fairways of Holywood golf club, was one of the first Catholics to work in the Harlaand and Wolf shipyard.
One of the first Catholics to work in the Haarland and Wolf shipyard? What age is he, 100?
Well considering that it opened in 1861 he'd be some age if he were the first FFS. What knobs make this stuff up??
Hate this tribal shite on here
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 10:43:19 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 15, 2012, 07:37:58 PM
QuoteGerry's father Jimmy, the first McIlroy to grace the fairways of Holywood golf club, was one of the first Catholics to work in the Harlaand and Wolf shipyard.
One of the first Catholics to work in the Haarland and Wolf shipyard? What age is he, 100?
Well considering that it opened in 1861 he'd be some age if he were the first FFS. What knobs make this stuff up??
Hate this tribal shite on here
It may have taken 40/50 years for the first catholic to walk through the doors... :-\
Quote from: sammymaguire on August 16, 2012, 10:51:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 10:43:19 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 15, 2012, 07:37:58 PM
QuoteGerry's father Jimmy, the first McIlroy to grace the fairways of Holywood golf club, was one of the first Catholics to work in the Harlaand and Wolf shipyard.
One of the first Catholics to work in the Haarland and Wolf shipyard? What age is he, 100?
Well considering that it opened in 1861 he'd be some age if he were the first FFS. What knobs make this stuff up??
Hate this tribal shite on here
It may have taken 40/50 years for the first catholic to walk through the doors... :-\
Whatever about that there were a nimber of Catholics worked on the construction of the Titanic.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 15, 2012, 07:28:38 PM
His parents Gerry and Rosie are both Catholics. Gerry's father Jimmy, the first McIlroy to grace the fairways of Holywood golf club, was one of the first Catholics to work in the Harlaand and Wolf shipyard.
Where was this written - "Harlaand and Wolf" - neither name correct? If this is from a proper newspaper that is pretty shoddy.
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Police-to-re-examine-evidence-in-sectarian-murder-of-Rory-McIlroys-uncle-124586274.html (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Police-to-re-examine-evidence-in-sectarian-murder-of-Rory-McIlroys-uncle-124586274.html)
It's from a Yank newspaper. Typical ignorant, ill-informed rubbish typical of the plastic Paddies over there. Considering there were over 7,000 Catholics put of out the shipyards during the pogroms in 1920, his grandfather who most likely wasn't even born then, wasn't even close to being the first.