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Title: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Royalranter on July 22, 2012, 11:51:55 PM
What do people make of this. I know its not wide spread but I think it has no place in our sport. Maybe I've got rose tinted glasses on but I always view Gaelic games as fair and rrspectfull sports. The Dublin fans boo and jeer every free taker and I think its disgraceful. The dubs aren't the only set of fans that do it, the Louth fans do the same.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Gazzler on July 22, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
In fairness to the genuine Dub fan I would say 99% of the booing comes from the Neanderthals on Hill 16.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:57:35 PM
Would never happen in Killarney!
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 11:57:52 PM
Quote from: Royalranter on July 22, 2012, 11:51:55 PM
What do people make of this. I know its not wide spread but I think it has no place in our sport. Maybe I've got rose tinted glasses on but I always view Gaelic games as fair and rrspectfull sports. The Dublin fans boo and jeer every free taker and I think its disgraceful. The dubs aren't the only set of fans that do it, the Louth fans do the same.

I like your style.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 23, 2012, 12:03:06 AM
Yawn................................. my jaysus I seen some dublin animals there today and likewise meath........................its unfortunate that the majority is occupied by the hill but they buys the tickets................cusack fan man myself and was surrounded by meaths finest too today  ;)
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Royalranter on July 23, 2012, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: Gazzler on July 22, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
In fairness to the genuine Dub fan I would say 99% of the booing comes from the Neanderthals on Hill 16.

It was coming from every corner of the ground today. It was the same when they played wexford a few weeks back
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 23, 2012, 12:07:34 AM
Quote from: Royalranter on July 23, 2012, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: Gazzler on July 22, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
In fairness to the genuine Dub fan I would say 99% of the booing comes from the Neanderthals on Hill 16.

It was coming from every corner of the ground today. It was the same when they played wexford a few weeks back

they were taking over the place............................... we must do somethinggggggggggggggggg(http://cache.tcm.ie/media/images/a/AndersBreivikWipesAwayTearsinCourtApril162012_large.jpg)
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Ard-Rí on July 23, 2012, 12:10:48 AM
It's everyone, in fairness. Meath fans at the Canal end beside myself went beserk trying to put off the Dublin minor taking a penalty. Poor form, but that's what you get when you bring crowds together.

By the by, Dublin were quite gracious in victory today, and I could have no complaints about them whatsoever. Most of the vitriol seems to be spewed on the internet, rather than face to face.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Gazzler on July 23, 2012, 12:15:29 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 23, 2012, 12:03:06 AM
Yawn................................. my jaysus I seen some dublin animals there today and likewise meath........................its unfortunate that the majority is occupied by the hill but they buys the tickets................cusack fan man myself and was surrounded by meaths finest too today  ;)

Why..............all the...............full stops.........................
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 23, 2012, 12:37:08 AM
Quote from: Ard-Rí on July 23, 2012, 12:10:48 AM
It's everyone, in fairness. Meath fans at the Canal end beside myself went beserk trying to put off the Dublin minor taking a penalty. Poor form, but that's what you get when you bring crowds together.

By the by, Dublin were quite gracious in victory today, and I could have no complaints about them whatsoever. Most of the vitriol seems to be spewed on the internet, rather than face to face.

fair point lad........................society in general is in the shitters eh..................................... manners and respect are gone
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Syferus on July 23, 2012, 12:56:12 AM
It's here to stay. Have a few campaigns to promote respect and have clubs teach young children basic etiquette but beyond that you'll have to live with it. I know everyone loves a moan but I'm far past even caring if some riled-up supporters boo, it's a worldwide problem and one only exasperated by ingrained drinking is here.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: BennyCake on July 23, 2012, 01:19:08 AM
I just posted something about this on the Leibster final thread. Just seen this now.

Yes it was disgusting today. It says alot for the adults. If kids were booing, they should get a clip round the ear from a parent. But when the parents are doing it too, well what else would you expect?!
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: here comes 6 on July 23, 2012, 09:02:48 AM
Its not only Leinster this happens as Donegal were at it everytime a Down player went to take a free yesterday.   Disgraceful
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: thejuice on July 23, 2012, 09:11:32 AM
Meath fans were booing Offaly free takers last year too in Tullamore.

perhaps we got these signs installed at all stadiums it might help.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Uu7v2h-oFfc/UAHYHLYw3mI/AAAAAAAAfng/Iytqv8PJ0dc/s1600/applause-sign.jpg)

Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: heffo on July 23, 2012, 09:23:07 AM
Quote from: Royalranter on July 22, 2012, 11:51:55 PM
The dubs aren't the only set of fans that do it, the Louth fans do the same.

Meath fans do it too.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Hound on July 23, 2012, 09:24:29 AM
It used to annoy me a lot, doesn't any more.

Rugby has changed my view.

I went to Thomond a couple of years ago for Munster v Leinster league game. When Jonny Sexton was kicking for goal, there was absolute silence, and if one or two started to make noise, they got lambasted by other fans. BUT, ever other time Sexton got the ball the stadium rang our with boos. Every time Leinster got a line out, the boos rang out as the crowd tried to make it as difficult as possible for the thrower.

Why only give "respect" to the opposition when kicking for goal and at no other time?

Its all a load of balls, and in fact if you're not used to it I'd imagine its more difficult to kick in absolute silence than with noise all around, which the fans know well.

If fans want to cheer, boo or stay silent, the paid their money, they can make their choice. All part of the atmosphere as far as I'm concerned now.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 23, 2012, 09:55:25 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:57:35 PM
Would never happen in Killarney!
no, they only boo oposition subs coming on and cheer every oposition wide or mis placed pass
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Bord na Mona man on July 23, 2012, 10:18:40 AM
There is an element of smugness behind the crowd staying silent in rugby - Look at us, aren't we great supporters.

When it actually gets put to the test, i.e. a kicker with a potentially match winning kick, then the crowd aren't always so sporting. In the last 2 years I recall Dan Parks and Jonathan Davies getting booed by a substantial amount of the Irish crowd as they lined up kicks to win games for Scotland and Wales. The 'respectful silence' shown to them earlier in the game by these supporters was just for show.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: thejuice on July 23, 2012, 10:23:19 AM
Maybe they are soccer fans disguised as Rugby fans.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Hardy on July 23, 2012, 11:43:14 AM
I really like the olaying that accompanies every pass when a team has completely subdued the opposition, the game is won and there's no more tension, so the fans can really show their appreciation. It was uplifting to hear it from (some of) the Kerry fans on Saturday evening, especially as it represented such a contrast to the curmudgeonly attitude of (some of) their supporters when (some) Meath fans similarly entertained themselves towards the end of the 2001 semi-final.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: here comes 6 on July 23, 2012, 11:51:14 AM
Maybe its a southern thing
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Plain of the Herbs on July 23, 2012, 11:58:30 AM
I recall Tony Ward being quoted saying that the eerie silence in a packed stadium was more intimidating than the jeers of a raucous crowd when taking a place-kick.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on July 23, 2012, 10:18:40 AM
There is an element of smugness behind the crowd staying silent in rugby - Look at us, aren't we great supporters.

When it actually gets put to the test, i.e. a kicker with a potentially match winning kick, then the crowd aren't always so sporting. In the last 2 years I recall Dan Parks and Jonathan Davies getting booed by a substantial amount of the Irish crowd as they lined up kicks to win games for Scotland and Wales. The 'respectful silence' shown to them earlier in the game by these supporters was just for show.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 23, 2012, 12:01:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 23, 2012, 11:57:02 AM
Booing free kicks is class. As a paying supporter, I feel it is my only real opportunity to influence the game in my team's favour. Not my fault the free taker can't kick straight when there is a bit of noise. He should practice this.

Well said dude............................take american football for example since the 60s kickers practice with speakers being blasted with crowd noise and wind machines blowing at them..........professional I know but gaa is all but that......................
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: ONeill on July 23, 2012, 12:02:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 23, 2012, 11:57:02 AM
Booing free kicks is class. As a paying supporter, I feel it is my only real opportunity to influence the game in my team's favour. Not my fault the free taker can't kick straight when there is a bit of noise. He should practice this.

I boo the wife every time she makes dinner. I eat like a king now.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: snoopdog on July 23, 2012, 12:03:38 PM
donegal fans were at it Yesterday in Clones.
Kildare fans against Down in AI SF 2 years ago. Some Down fans followed suit.

It tends to be in big games where you have guys who are hopping on the bandwagon and going for the day out and the beer as opposed to the football.
The majority of reall GAA fans dont do it.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: ONeill on July 23, 2012, 12:03:52 PM
And what's a cat-whistle?
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Gazzler on July 23, 2012, 01:20:38 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 23, 2012, 12:01:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 23, 2012, 11:57:02 AM
Booing free kicks is class. As a paying supporter, I feel it is my only real opportunity to influence the game in my team's favour. Not my fault the free taker can't kick straight when there is a bit of noise. He should practice this.

Well said dude............................take american football for example since the 60s kickers practice with speakers being blasted with crowd noise and wind machines blowing at them..........professional I know but gaa is all but that......................
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Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
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Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: armaghniac on July 23, 2012, 07:00:15 PM
The booing is one of the least pleasant aspect of attending Dubs games which otherwise can have a good atmosphere.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 27, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on July 23, 2012, 10:18:40 AM
There is an element of smugness behind the crowd staying silent in rugby - Look at us, aren't we great supporters.

Couldn't agree more. I watched a Leinster Munster game in Peter Clohessy's Bar a couple of years ago and couldn't believe my ears when the crowd started shushing at free kicks. In a public house! With the match taking place 2km away! My loud guffaws didn't put them off either.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: ballinaman on July 27, 2012, 03:53:06 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 27, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on July 23, 2012, 10:18:40 AM
There is an element of smugness behind the crowd staying silent in rugby - Look at us, aren't we great supporters.

Couldn't agree more. I watched a Leinster Munster game in Peter Clohessy's Bar a couple of years ago and couldn't believe my ears when the crowd started shushing at free kicks. In a public house! With the match taking place 2km away! My loud guffaws didn't put them off either.
Exactly.....they then love to roar when a full back is under a garryowen too.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: eviemonkey on July 27, 2012, 03:55:17 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 27, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Couldn't agree more. I watched a Leinster Munster game in Peter Clohessy's Bar a couple of years ago and couldn't believe my ears when the crowd started shushing at free kicks. In a public house! With the match taking place 2km away! My loud guffaws didn't put them off either.

Bizarre behaviour but becoming increasingly common any time the rugby is on in a pub. The mind boggles at the mind-set behind such a practice.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: Crete Boom on July 27, 2012, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 27, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on July 23, 2012, 10:18:40 AM
There is an element of smugness behind the crowd staying silent in rugby - Look at us, aren't we great supporters.

Couldn't agree more. I watched a Leinster Munster game in Peter Clohessy's Bar a couple of years ago and couldn't believe my ears when the crowd started shushing at free kicks. In a public house! With the match taking place 2km away! My loud guffaws didn't put them off either.

This is brought up by the Media after the self appointed greatest fans in the world decided not to make any noise during penalty kicks in Thomond. In fairness to them they were the first to do it and even in pre Celtic tiger this is our real culture I love Munster Heineken Cup mission days I do remember silence in the interprovincial matches (in Thomond not Musgrave) which could be quite spiky affairs.
  I can only go by my own experience but from the old Cardiff Arms to the Parc de Princes to Carrisbrook to Twickenham to the Old Landsdowne the was always a certain amount of booing of place kickers , how much dependended on the place and the opposition. It's not new in the Gaa either (and not all the Dubs fault) , one of my first sporting memories is from the Hyde in 1989 and there was a chorus of boos , whistles and catcalling every time Messrs McStay and McManus were lining up a free so we can't act holier than thou in the Gaa either and blame it all on the Skangers ;) Personally I don't mind it as long as there's no personal insults thrown in and it's just boos. Couldn't imagine it affecting the players too much anyway.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 27, 2012, 04:27:33 PM
I remember a story a number of years back where the county secretary of a certain county came up to the free taker at training one night.  He had one of these in his hands

(http://www.littlefawns.com/taperecorder.jpg)

He stood behind the player and started playing the tape and it was a recording of a crowd booing and roaring at someone taking a free.  "This is to make it more realistic for you to practice for the big ocassions!"  "would ye ever piss off you annoying cnut!!!"
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: haranguerer on July 27, 2012, 06:33:18 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 27, 2012, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 27, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on July 23, 2012, 10:18:40 AM
There is an element of smugness behind the crowd staying silent in rugby - Look at us, aren't we great supporters.

Couldn't agree more. I watched a Leinster Munster game in Peter Clohessy's Bar a couple of years ago and couldn't believe my ears when the crowd started shushing at free kicks. In a public house! With the match taking place 2km away! My loud guffaws didn't put them off either.

This is brought up by the Media after the self appointed greatest fans in the world decided not to make any noise during penalty kicks in Thomond. In fairness to them they were the first to do it and even in pre Celtic tiger this is our real culture

Ah ffs. Do you really think they want the lad to have every chance to score it?? They're f**king praying he misses like everyone in every other sport, its just a better way of attempting to put someone off, when booong and whistling is so commonplace, and place kickers are used to it.

Btw, I coudnt give a f**k about booing and whistling during frees, there are much bigger sportsmanship issues to deal with than that in our game.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: armaghniac on August 04, 2012, 07:30:06 PM
Note the unsporting booing in the Dublin - Laois game that you won't see in other games this weekend.
Title: Re: booing and cat-whistling at free takers
Post by: BennyCake on August 04, 2012, 07:43:46 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 04, 2012, 07:30:06 PM
Note the unsporting booing in the Dublin - Laois game that you won't see in other games this weekend.

What else would you expect where the Dubs are concerned?