Season is only a few games in and our club seems to be suffering from a spate of injuries recently, mainly hamstring.
Are there any other clubs out there that seem to be suffering from this?
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.
Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.
Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?
A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.
Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.
Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?
A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.
yoga.
you'll never pull a hamstring again
Quote from: INDIANA on May 10, 2012, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.
Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?
A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.
yoga.
you'll never pull a hamstring again
Foam roll lower back and gluts with some hip mobility exercises do the job also.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 07:57:32 PM
Season is only a few games in and our club seems to be suffering from a spate of injuries recently, mainly hamstring.
Are there any other clubs out there that seem to be suffering from this?
Wouldn't have happened under Lenny :P
Yoga is very good apparently though I have never had to avail of it.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 10, 2012, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 07:57:32 PM
Season is only a few games in and our club seems to be suffering from a spate of injuries recently, mainly hamstring.
Are there any other clubs out there that seem to be suffering from this?
Wouldn't have happened under Lenny :P
Yoga is very good apparently though I have never had to avail of it.
He'd other injuries that hit the team ;)
Looking at the types of training methods done nowadays it really is up there with professionalism, but the lads are not allowing proper recovery times or stretching as they should. Big factor for me is what Hashstag posted also
Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 10, 2012, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.
Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?
A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.
yoga.
you'll never pull a hamstring again
Foam roll lower back and gluts with some hip mobility exercises do the job also.
Yep I would also suggest you buy two tennis balls, tape them together and work on the piriformis, hamstring and IT-Band and make sure you work out any knots in the muscle
something like this
Piriformis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfnAUsYUTI)
instead of clubs spending small fortunes on outside managers and physios
a few sessions with a proper strength and conditioning coach and educating players how to look after themselves will prevent most injuries during the season
foam rolling, stretching, mobility exercises, gymwork
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 10, 2012, 11:33:52 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 10, 2012, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.
Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?
A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.
yoga.
you'll never pull a hamstring again
Foam roll lower back and gluts with some hip mobility exercises do the job also.
Yep I would also suggest you buy two tennis balls, tape them together and work on the piriformis, hamstring and IT-Band and make sure you work out any knots in the muscle
something like this
Piriformis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfnAUsYUTI)
Spot on Dinny. I've been dry needling the piriformis now for some time and have got great results. 75mm needle directly into the piriformis and you get a serious release.
Make sure Quads/Hip flexors are addressed too...any restriction/tightness will have an impact on the Hamstrings. Pelvic stability... Gmed/min strength deficits can also cause an overloading of the hamstrings.....far more of us sitting on our rear ends all day which these babies aren't always enamored with.
Quote from: North Longford on May 10, 2012, 01:35:44 PM
Make sure Quads/Hip flexors are addressed too...any restriction/tightness will have an impact on the Hamstrings. Pelvic stability... Gmed/min strength deficits can also cause an overloading of the hamstrings.....far more of us sitting on our rear ends all day which these babies aren't always enamored with.
Exactly most gluts these days are just cushions.
Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 12:08:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 10, 2012, 11:33:52 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 10, 2012, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.
Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?
A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.
yoga.
you'll never pull a hamstring again
Foam roll lower back and gluts with some hip mobility exercises do the job also.
Yep I would also suggest you buy two tennis balls, tape them together and work on the piriformis, hamstring and IT-Band and make sure you work out any knots in the muscle
something like this
Piriformis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfnAUsYUTI)
Spot on Dinny. I've been dry needling the piriformis now for some time and have got great results. 75mm needle directly into the piriformis and you get a serious release.
Can you explain what that means?
Dry Needling is technique used to release specific trigger points (knots) in muscles. The needles are similar to those used in acupuncture however the rationale behind their use is different. The needles are solid, differ in length are are about the width of a strand of hair. Its a strong distinctive sensation when a trigger point is released.
Nice video of low back needling here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yptXDbYaBec
And you do it yourself???? Or do you go to an accupuncturist or something?
I'm a Physiotherapist myself. Took a dry needling course when I worked in Sydney a few years back. Its a useful technique to be used along with others. I pop a few into the calves alright after long runs, its not the most pleasant sensation but works well!
Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 03:02:55 PM
I'm a Physiotherapist myself. Took a dry needling course when I worked in Sydney a few years back. Its a useful technique to be used along with others. I pop a few into the calves alright after long runs, its not the most pleasant sensation but works well!
Had a bit of acupuncture done a few years back when I'd a bit of bother with the Asthama waking me up every night and had to use the inhaler to get back to sleep. Got needles in the upper and lower back, behind the knees and in the back of the hands near the thumbs. Not sure if it was the placebo effect, but I didn't use an inhaler for weeks.
I take it these dry needles aren't put into the meridian lines or chi lines, can't remember, its that long ago.
As per what other people say it's amazing how much of a role the glutes play in these type of things. Glute mobility is a big thing and keeping the glutes strengthened and "activated". As per other comments most people sit on their backsides all day these days, myself included, and this is very bad for posture.
I have heard it say that footballers "run with their hamstrings" which makes them more prone to these injuries. Keeping the glutes in good shape should help a lot with the hamstring injuries - it has helped me no end.
Pilates are a really good thing to go to. Address core, posture, glute activation and all things like that. Will not seem like a workout and classes will be full of women, usually older ones, but well worth doing.
I use a hockey ball to work the glutes. It is pretty painful at times mind but a good job.
Quote from: johnneycool on May 10, 2012, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 03:02:55 PM
I'm a Physiotherapist myself. Took a dry needling course when I worked in Sydney a few years back. Its a useful technique to be used along with others. I pop a few into the calves alright after long runs, its not the most pleasant sensation but works well!
Had a bit of acupuncture done a few years back when I'd a bit of bother with the Asthama waking me up every night and had to use the inhaler to get back to sleep. Got needles in the upper and lower back, behind the knees and in the back of the hands near the thumbs. Not sure if it was the placebo effect, but I didn't use an inhaler for weeks.
I take it these dry needles aren't put into the meridian lines or chi lines, can't remember, its that long ago.
Aye, different to the meridian lines alright. You palpate across through the muscle to find the trigger point as well as studying the most common sites throughout the body.