Leo Varaker Minister for Tourism, transport and sport was on the Sports show yesterday with Des Cahill discussing the possibility of ireland making a bid to host the Rugby World cup. It would be an All Ireland event. It would need the support of the GAA to make it possible. There were however points to note.
1. Ireland (North and South) would have to pay a fee of €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event.
2. We would need 11 stadiums to host it
Ravenhill, Aviva, Thomond park and the RDS would be the four Rugby venues to host it which means we would need seven other venues to host it. the majority of these would have to be GAA venues.
Windsor Park (Soccer) Croke Park, Celtic Park?, Pearse Stadium, Casement park, Mc Hale Park, Fitzgerlad stadium, Pairc I Chaoimh, Tullamore, Portlaois are all possible venues that could host it. Windsor park and Casement park are all set to undergo there own renovations, but the GAA stadiums will need a bit of investment. leo Varaker hinted that it would be worth there while i.e development money.
Isn't Croke Park the only GAA pitch sanctioned to play Soccer/Rugby? For other GAA parks there would have be a resolution from Congress?
What time of year does a rugby World Cup take place?
September/October
There are a few games scheduled for Croker in September every year I seem to remember.
Would the playing surface at Windsor Pk be big enough??
Yeah. Rugby pitches usually fit fine into soccer, although sometimes the try area is a bit narrow. A rugby pitch is 100 mts from goal to goal.
It appears the pitch at Windsor is 100m long...wouldn't leave you much of an in-goal area? I suppose this could be changed for any potential WC matches. Apparently there are no minimum dimensions for a rugby pitch but it should be as near as possible to 100m for the playing area plus 22m for each in goal area.
Initially I was against Croke Pk being used for rugby and soccer but it would be great to see England at Casement Pk ;)
Quote from: Benny Sweeney on March 25, 2012, 12:48:33 PM
Leo Varaker Minister for Tourism, transport and sport was on the Sports show yesterday with Des Cahill discussing the possibility of ireland making a bid to host the Rugby World cup. It would be an All Ireland event. It would need the support of the GAA to make it possible. There were however points to note.
1. Ireland (North and South) would have to pay a fee of €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event.
2. We would need 11 stadiums to host it
Ravenhill, Aviva, Thomond park and the RDS would be the four Rugby venues to host it which means we would need seven other venues to host it. the majority of these would have to be GAA venues.
Windsor Park (Soccer) Croke Park, Celtic Park?, Pearse Stadium, Casement park, Mc Hale Park, Fitzgerlad stadium, Pairc I Chaoimh, Tullamore, Portlaois are all possible venues that could host it. Windsor park and Casement park are all set to undergo there own renovations, but the GAA stadiums will need a bit of investment. leo Varaker hinted that it would be worth there while i.e development money.
I think by even identifying possible stadiums you have put as much work into this proposal as Varadkar.
Discussed here: http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=20762.0
Nevermind the stadiums, the GAA will open up to anything if there is enough €€€€ to be made, that we can be sure of.
What needs to be established is what it would cost and how much would it generate? Is it financially worth doing?
Can we even use New Zealand as an example, perhaps the French RWC would be a better comparison?
It was estimated to have cost NZ $260 million to host the thing and they expected about double that in return and hope that extra money comes from future tourism generated. You can't bank on tourism, imagine trying to predict what way the world will be in, in 2023?
I'm not against the idea in principal but without hard facts to back it up its just expensive waffle. The other thing to consider is the legacy it leaves behind You only have to look at the Korean/Japan WC or the coming London Olympics. After all, the GAA need better stadiums not bigger stadiums. We don't need any more Limerick Gaelic Grounds.
https://twitter.com/bernardotoole/status/798495169616154624
Rugby World Cup 2023: Ireland ready to stage a tournament 'like no other'
via The Irish Times
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/rugby-world-cup-2023-ireland-ready-to-stage-a-tournament-like-no-other-1.2868745
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Surely the gate receipts alone would cover the cost of the 160m euros?
Link to the video - https://twitter.com/IrishRugby/status/798495527264321537
Would have been good if Neeson had have finished it with "If you dont pick us to host the world cup I will find you and I will kill you...." ;D
I say play it in New Zealand every time, as it's the furthest place away from here.
Quote from: BennyCake on November 15, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
I say play it in New Zealand every time, as it's the furthest place away from here.
whats your logic for this? Not want to see money brought in to the economy in Ireland and show casing the country in a good light
Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Whats a Garrison sport.
Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Do you watch saccer at all ?
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on November 15, 2016, 03:55:54 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 15, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
I say play it in New Zealand every time, as it's the furthest place away from here.
whats your logic for this? Not want to see money brought in to the economy in Ireland and show casing the country in a good light
I can't stand this stupid game. The further away it's played, the better. That's my logic.
Who's benefitting economically? Hotel chains charging an arm and a leg, and Arthur Guinness. That's who. Makes no odds to the ordinary man.
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Quote from: BennyCake on November 15, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
I say play it in New Zealand every time, as it's the furthest place away from here.
whats your logic for this? Not want to see money brought in to the economy in Ireland and show casing the country in a good light
I can't stand this stupid game. The further away it's played, the better. That's my logic.
Who's benefitting economically? Hotel chains charging an arm and a leg, and Arthur Guinness. That's who. Makes no odds to the ordinary man.
Yes it does .. it just doesnt to you ..
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Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on November 15, 2016, 03:55:54 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 15, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
I say play it in New Zealand every time, as it's the furthest place away from here.
whats your logic for this? Not want to see money brought in to the economy in Ireland and show casing the country in a good light
I can't stand this stupid game. The further away it's played, the better. That's my logic.
Who's benefitting economically? Hotel chains charging an arm and a leg, and Arthur Guinness. That's who. Makes no odds to the ordinary man.
And who works in these hotel chains or pub selling the Guinness - is it not 'the ordinary man'. If you dont think hosting a world cup event will bring money to the country you are delusional to be honest.
Quote from: BennyCake on November 15, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
I say play it in New Zealand every time, as it's the furthest place away from here.
:D ;D :D
Quote from: Rossfan on November 15, 2016, 04:33:14 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 15, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
I say play it in New Zealand every time, as it's the furthest place away from here.
:D ;D :D
That's the way I feel when Tyrone "play football" if that's what you call it!
Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
Quote from: muppet on November 15, 2016, 04:44:23 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
As are the all the political parties I'm sure. What's your point?
Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 15, 2016, 04:44:23 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
As are the all the political parties I'm sure. What's your point?
Should they be for it?
Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Is this you Fox ? ::)
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=no+foreign+sports+celtic+jersey&biw=1440&bih=794&tbm=isch&imgil=mS1qN-hPbTJ3ZM%253A%253B0tc91-MB7TjgOM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.politics.ie%25252Fforum%25252Fculture-community%25252F183469-absolutely-disgusting-behaviour-irish-soccer-supporters-3.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=mS1qN-hPbTJ3ZM%253A%252C0tc91-MB7TjgOM%252C_&usg=__-JiYpJHaRvGnx2JYXmqVqLPekRM%3D&ved=0ahUKEwiu0LXqnavQAhWeF8AKHa9VDwsQyjcIXA&ei=sD4rWK64EZ6vgAavq71Y#imgrc=mS1qN-hPbTJ3ZM%3A
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Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
As are the all the political parties I'm sure. What's your point?
Should they be for it?
I don't approve of GAA grounds being used to promote rugby.
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Quote from: muppet on November 15, 2016, 04:44:23 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
As are the all the political parties I'm sure. What's your point?
Should they be for it?
I don't approve of GAA grounds being used to promote rugby.
How many GAA grounds do you own?
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Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
As are the all the political parties I'm sure. What's your point?
Should they be for it?
I don't approve of GAA grounds being used to promote rugby.
How many GAA grounds do you own?
GAA grounds don't tend to be in private ownership. I don't believe the rugby crowd own any either.
The same as any member of the GAA we have a say in how our grounds are used
I hope the GAA are getting plenty of money to refurbish these grounds and pay for others to be upgraded
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Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
As are the all the political parties I'm sure. What's your point?
Should they be for it?
I don't approve of GAA grounds being used to promote rugby.
How many GAA grounds do you own?
GAA grounds don't tend to be in private ownership. I don't believe the rugby crowd own any either.
If you don't approve of GAA grounds being used, as you say, I am wondering what this means. At how many GAA grounds does your approval matter?
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Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
As are the all the political parties I'm sure. What's your point?
Should they be for it?
I don't approve of GAA grounds being used to promote rugby.
How many GAA grounds do you own?
GAA grounds don't tend to be in private ownership. I don't believe the rugby crowd own any either.
If you don't approve of GAA grounds being used, as you say, I am wondering what this means. At how many GAA grounds does your approval matter?
Ah c'mon muppet, you're being a bit pedantic here. He didn't say his approval mattered, same as you and I's approval of Brexit/Trump doesn't matter.
FWIW, I think it's a good thing but would be wary of the GAA being corralled into spending fortunes of money to bring grounds up to some required standard for a 4 week event. We'll be left with a mountain of debt and half a dozen underused white elephant stadia dotted around the country. You could say that I don't approve of the GAA spending their money in that way. I'm sure they will be mindful of this though.
Quote from: BennyCake on November 15, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
I say play it in New Zealand every time, as it's the furthest place away from here.
The earth would move.
How can it cost €160m ? How much do the consultants get? What is the IRB cut? Would the money not be better spent on concussion research ?
These sports jamborees enrich blazers and are otherwise very dubious What''s wrong with a permanent home for the thing? The Olympics is another load of nonsense.
Quote from: seafoid on November 15, 2016, 06:12:15 PM
How can it cost €160m ? How much do the consultants get? What is the IRB cut? Would the money not be better spent on concussion research ?
These sports jamborees enrich blazers and are otherwise very dubious What''s wrong with a permanent home for the thing? The Olympics is another load of nonsense.
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Not sure how true ithat is but I heard the Irby take the gates as well. How much are the gaa getting paid for use of grounds?
Quote from: armaghniac on November 15, 2016, 06:02:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 15, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
I say play it in New Zealand every time, as it's the furthest place away from here.
The earth would move.
That would be the first time anything interesting happened at a rugby match then.
Quote from: muppet on November 15, 2016, 05:46:34 PM
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Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
As are the all the political parties I'm sure. What's your point?
Should they be for it?
I don't approve of GAA grounds being used to promote rugby.
How many GAA grounds do you own?
GAA grounds don't tend to be in private ownership. I don't believe the rugby crowd own any either.
If you don't approve of GAA grounds being used, as you say, I am wondering what this means. At how many GAA grounds does your approval matter?
It just means I don't like the idea. What part of that don't you understand?
You'd think that someone like yourself who's just got off the back of a demoralising defeat by Trump understands why people register their disapproval.
I wasn't in favour of Croke Park being used for rugby previously or God Save the Queen being played in the stadium either.
Unfortunately the GAA decided that they'd allow them to do so and then it leads to this new request for tournaments. The GAA will be demonised if they don't help rugby with their bid now which is a BS situation to be placed in.
Built off the backs of volunteers, sold off by suits. Typical.
Lads the GAA won't have to pay for all the refurbishments. The government grant towards PUC was linked to the rugby world cup as far as I know. In addition, many of our grounds need, or will need, refurbishment so if we can get that done with government (and IRFU?) contributions then we should take that. Once the rugby WC is over we should be left with modern recently refurbished grounds all over the country for us to use as we deem fit and with significantly less debt than if we did it ourselves, which we'd have to do at some point.
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Quote from: muppet on November 15, 2016, 04:44:23 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on November 15, 2016, 03:13:44 PM
A rugby world cup hosted thanks to the efforts of the GAA and it's volunteers? €160 million euro to the IRB to host the event? Want to shaft taxpayers a little more?
No thank you.
go play your garrison sport elsewhere.
Sinn Féin are for it.
As are the all the political parties I'm sure. What's your point?
Should they be for it?
I don't approve of GAA grounds being used to promote rugby.
How many GAA grounds do you own?
GAA grounds don't tend to be in private ownership. I don't believe the rugby crowd own any either.
If you don't approve of GAA grounds being used, as you say, I am wondering what this means. At how many GAA grounds does your approval matter?
It just means I don't like the idea. What part of that don't you understand?
You'd think that someone like yourself who's just got off the back of a demoralising defeat by Trump understands why people register their disapproval.
I wasn't in favour of Croke Park being used for rugby previously or God Save the Queen being played in the stadium either.
Unfortunately the GAA decided that they'd allow them to do so and then it leads to this new request for tournaments. The GAA will be demonised if they don't help rugby with their bid now which is a BS situation to be placed in.
Built off the backs of volunteers, sold off by suits. Typical.
You'd think your glorious Trump victory should mean you are happy with everyone telling you how everything is.
The GAA takes money from the Government. The Government wants the Rugby WC. It will happen.
Your opinion doesn't matter. That's how it is. :D
Quote from: ballinaman on November 15, 2016, 01:24:04 PM
https://twitter.com/bernardotoole/status/798495169616154624
Rugby World Cup 2023: Ireland ready to stage a tournament ‘like no other’
via The Irish Times
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/rugby-world-cup-2023-ireland-ready-to-stage-a-tournament-like-no-other-1.2868745
So by 2023 the capacity of MacHale park (31,000) will become much less than it is today while the Pearse stadium capacity (34,000) in the wind tunnel of Salthill and nightmare for parking and driving to it will rise?
Quote from: Zulu on November 15, 2016, 06:42:58 PM
Lads the GAA won't have to pay for all the refurbishments. The government grant towards PUC was linked to the rugby world cup as far as I know. In addition, many of our grounds need, or will need, refurbishment so if we can get that done with government (and IRFU?) contributions then we should take that. Once the rugby WC is over we should be left with modern recently refurbished grounds all over the country for us to use as we deem fit and with significantly less debt than if we did it ourselves, which we'd have to do at some point.
That would be my assumption on how the deal will work - otherwise the GAA have some terrible negotiators!
The IFU have just been underwritten to the tune of €340 m by Emergency legislation as they had been promised illegal aid from the Government .. it took them 3 hours with minimal debate so the next time you hear some politico bleat on about thing actually worthwhile being taken care of in 'future legislation ' remember this day .
this figure include a €138 million fee to world rugby but does not include any of the hundreds of millions need as the IRFU only have 2.5 stadiums of Note which is going to lead to further over development of Gaa grounds at the expense of Grassroots sport. the over all bill will end up not far off a billion for a 3 week tournament in a minority sport. sheer daftness
I feel this ia major scandal in the making if the bid is successful
At least the liability is limited unlike the bank guarantee.
It does say a lot about priorities in times of austerity.
Quote from: rosnarun on July 06, 2017, 10:11:21 AM
The IFU have just been underwritten to the tune of €340 m by Emergency legislation as they had been promised illegal aid from the Government .. it took them 3 hours with minimal debate so the next time you hear some politico bleat on about thing actually worthwhile being taken care of in 'future legislation ' remember this day .
this figure include a €138 million fee to world rugby but does not include any of the hundreds of millions need as the IRFU only have 2.5 stadiums of Note which is going to lead to further over development of Gaa grounds at the expense of Grassroots sport. the over all bill will end up not far off a billion for a 3 week tournament in a minority sport. sheer daftness
I feel this ia major scandal in the making if the bid is successful
Unless they get Casement up and running shortly I think it is going to be a non-runner.
Which is probably unlikely given the time scales now but having two major venues in Belfast was always going to be one of the underpinning elements of the bid.
With Shane Ross involved disaster cannot be far away. Emergency legislation rushed through on anything scares me. How can it be the case in such a professional and organised bid that this happened? I'm not against it as I think it's a tremendous marketing opportunity and I expect the tournament will be a huge success. Though it is amazing how money can be found when the right people come asking.....
How many operations would this pay for?
How many people could be rescued by the inadequate Mental Health services if this money was spent there?
Always the well heeled who get looked after.
Quote from: rosnarun on July 06, 2017, 10:11:21 AM
The IFU have just been underwritten to the tune of €340 m by Emergency legislation as they had been promised illegal aid from the Government .. it took them 3 hours with minimal debate so the next time you hear some politico bleat on about thing actually worthwhile being taken care of in 'future legislation ' remember this day .
this figure include a €138 million fee to world rugby but does not include any of the hundreds of millions need as the IRFU only have 2.5 stadiums of Note which is going to lead to further over development of Gaa grounds at the expense of Grassroots sport. the over all bill will end up not far off a billion for a 3 week tournament in a minority sport. sheer daftness
I feel this ia major scandal in the making if the bid is successful
A billion. Where are you getting your figures from. Pairc ui chaoimh was redeveloped regardless of the world cup. Casement park is to be redeveloped regardless of a world cup - money that has been ring fenced and cant be spent on anything else. Aviva, thomond and ravenhill are ready. RDS are upgrading their stadium. As for the GAA Croke is also ready. Apart from croke, casement and PuC about 3/4 other ground are needed. Considering the state of some of the grounds in NZ little work is needed. Even if they did decide some modernisation Ravenhill was rebuilt from scratch for 20 million thats alot of new stadiums you can build with the extra 850 million you are talking about or maybe you are just exagerating a tad. We should go for this as it isnt a fringe sport and its the biggest event we can realistically host.
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Which is probably unlikely given the time scales now but having two major venues in Belfast was always going to be one of the underpinning elements of the bid.
Can't they use Windsor Park?
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Quote from: NAG1 on July 06, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
Which is probably unlikely given the time scales now but having two major venues in Belfast was always going to be one of the underpinning elements of the bid.
Can't they use Windsor Park?
Only 18000 capacity they need another 30000 plus ground for the quarters etc otherwise most of the big games would be in Dublin so hardly an Ireland world cup
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Quote from: NAG1 on July 06, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
Which is probably unlikely given the time scales now but having two major venues in Belfast was always going to be one of the underpinning elements of the bid.
Can't they use Windsor Park?
Only 18000 capacity they need another 30000 plus ground for the quarters etc otherwise most of the big games would be in Dublin so hardly an Ireland world cup
I thought Dublin was Ireland as far as the rugby mob were concerned
Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2017, 09:32:08 AM
How many operations would this pay for?
How many people could be rescued by the inadequate Mental Health services if this money was spent there?
Always the well heeled who get looked after.
Joeduffynomics - the economic theory whose premise seems to be that nothing should ever be spent on anything but healthcare until people stop dying.
Quote from: Hardy on July 07, 2017, 01:20:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2017, 09:32:08 AM
How many operations would this pay for?
How many people could be rescued by the inadequate Mental Health services if this money was spent there?
Always the well heeled who get looked after.
Joeduffynomics - the economic theory whose premise seems to be that nothing should ever be spent on anything but healthcare until people stop dying.
:D
Quote from: Hardy on July 07, 2017, 01:20:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2017, 09:32:08 AM
How many operations would this pay for?
How many people could be rescued by the inadequate Mental Health services if this money was spent there?
Always the well heeled who get looked after.
Joeduffynomics - the economic theory whose premise seems to be that nothing should ever be spent on anything but healthcare until people stop dying.
Brilliant .
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 07, 2017, 12:10:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 07, 2017, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 06, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
Which is probably unlikely given the time scales now but having two major venues in Belfast was always going to be one of the underpinning elements of the bid.
Can't they use Windsor Park?
Only 18000 capacity they need another 30000 plus ground for the quarters etc otherwise most of the big games would be in Dublin so hardly an Ireland world cup
I haven't studied this, but the Munster venues would hold more 30000, and nicer places to visit than Windsor park.
The women are doing well at this Rugby thing. Another win and France next. Let's get on the bandwagon.
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 14, 2017, 12:14:31 PM
The women are doing well at this Rugby thing. Another win and France next. Let's get on the bandwagon.
I watched yesterday after the hurling. It was woeful. I thought they were decent, but yesterday was rotten stuff.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 14, 2017, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 14, 2017, 12:14:31 PM
The women are doing well at this Rugby thing. Another win and France next. Let's get on the bandwagon.
I watched yesterday after the hurling. It was woeful. I thought they were decent, but yesterday was rotten stuff.
Is it rubbish in general or just this match? I may be an awful sexist pig but I find women's soccer, GAA etc. to be turgid stuff. Yes you see the odd piece of genuine skill like Aimee Mackin's goal the other day but in general I find it unwatchable. I think the standard of goalkeeping may be a reason for it as it's generally poor and makes it a lot easier to score a goal.