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Title: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2012, 07:26:14 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 08, 2012, 07:29:18 PM
  :o indeed!
'Arry??
:D

http://www.thefa.com/England/News/2012/080212.aspx
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2012, 07:30:19 PM
UNBELIEVABLE JEFF
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Agent Orange on February 08, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
Harry will probably stay with Spurs until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: muppet on February 08, 2012, 07:35:24 PM
Rumours on twitter that he has been seen in an apartment in Straffan.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2012, 07:35:57 PM
Decided to call it a day when John Terry was stripped of the armband.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 08, 2012, 07:37:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 08, 2012, 07:35:24 PM
Rumours on twitter that he has been seen in an apartment in Straffan.

There are appartments in Straffan??

:o
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 08, 2012, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 08, 2012, 07:35:24 PM
Rumours on twitter that he has been seen in an apartment in Straffan.
'Arry or Capello  ;)
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2012, 07:35:57 PM
Decided to call it a day when John Terry was stripped of the armband.
What does that say about Capello?
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: king of leon on February 08, 2012, 07:43:05 PM
Scary thing is that England might now actually do something at the Euros!!  Arry Redknapp wil probably get the job now!
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: muppet on February 08, 2012, 07:45:16 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on February 08, 2012, 07:37:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 08, 2012, 07:35:24 PM
Rumours on twitter that he has been seen in an apartment in Straffan.

There are appartments in Straffan??

:o

Definitely a few in Sallins anyway: http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1134839 (http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1134839)
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: maddog on February 08, 2012, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: king of leon on February 08, 2012, 07:43:05 PM
Scary thing is that England might now actually do something at the Euros!!  Arry Redknapp wil probably get the job now!

Cant see it, think this will create the conditions for bi-annual media led self destruct button to be fired on cue as usual. Opportunities for those with the balls for betfair accounts.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: ballinaman on February 08, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Fair play to him, took the English FA for a ride.....5 years of serious cash and off he goes :D
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2012, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on February 08, 2012, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 08, 2012, 07:35:24 PM
Rumours on twitter that he has been seen in an apartment in Straffan.
'Arry or Capello  ;)
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2012, 07:35:57 PM
Decided to call it a day when John Terry was stripped of the armband.
What does that say about Capello?
Next Chelsea manager?
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
Arry gets the job and they get gubbed in all 3 games at Euros. Everyone's happy.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 08, 2012, 07:56:20 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
Arry gets the job and they get gubbed in all 3 games at Euros. Everyone's happy.

But will there be any, ahem, bonus payments into Rosie47? Oh that's right, that's all perfectly above board, as of earlier today.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: muppet on February 08, 2012, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 08, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Fair play to him, took the English FA for a ride.....5 years of serious cash and off he goes :D

He knows that the media will totally build up the teams chances, despite the hostility between:
Utd & Liverpool players,
Chelsea & Utd players' relatives,
Spurs and the revenue,
a Captain that bangs (rather than builds) Bridges,
a striker who may soccer hat-tricks every game, break a metatarsal or not score for a year,

and when they inevitably crash out Capello will be blamed mercilessly.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: screenexile on February 08, 2012, 07:59:20 PM
Whatever about John Terry's innocence or lack of Capello's just right. There's a legal process underway and until that concludes Terry's innocent and what right have the FA to decide who the Captain is?

That's the managers job and Capello isn't the kind of character you're going to walk over too easily so I'd imagine once the notion of an apology/joint press conference was floated he told them where to go.

Or else he realises he can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and bolted the first chance he got whilst maintaining his dignity!
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: maddog on February 08, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 08, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Fair play to him, took the English FA for a ride.....5 years of serious cash and off he goes :D

Was it as good as Svens grand heist?
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 08, 2012, 08:02:01 PM
Quote from: maddog on February 08, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 08, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Fair play to him, took the English FA for a ride.....5 years of serious cash and off he goes :D

Was it as good as Svens grand heist?

That's no way to talk about Faria Alam !
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: ballinaman on February 08, 2012, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: maddog on February 08, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 08, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Fair play to him, took the English FA for a ride.....5 years of serious cash and off he goes :D

Was it as good as Svens grand heist?
Better...he only had to go to one tournament and got a higher salary! :D
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Orior on February 08, 2012, 08:09:16 PM
Will this become Ireland's new pastime - discussing Engurland's next soccer manager?
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: seafoid on February 08, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
The job of England manager is a poisoned chalice. They never win anything and they will never win anything. To call them underachievers is an understatement.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: bennydorano on February 08, 2012, 08:20:50 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 08, 2012, 07:59:20 PM
Whatever about John Terry's innocence or lack of Capello's just right. There's a legal process underway and until that concludes Terry's innocent and what right have the FA to decide who the Captain is?

That's the managers job and Capello isn't the kind of character you're going to walk over too easily so I'd imagine once the notion of an apology/joint press conference was floated he told them where to go.

Or else he realises he can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and bolted the first chance he got whilst maintaining his dignity!

Correcto.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: upmonaghansayswe on February 08, 2012, 08:25:15 PM
Not the first Italian to abandon ship.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: sammymaguire on February 08, 2012, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 08, 2012, 08:09:16 PM
Will this become Ireland's new pastime - discussing Engurland's next soccer manager?

It's own thread on the GAAboard too!

Anyway, defo an English man next up  :o
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: From the Bunker on February 08, 2012, 08:39:04 PM
Poor Harry, he literally got out of jail today. And now he faces this sh1te for the next couple of months.

Not sure Harry would want this gig now! He'll be more surprised at todays announcement, as he seen Capello as a buffer for a couple of years. Spuds are a serious enough outfit, and would be hard to leave with Champs Lge looming again next year. International Football is usually a retirement home for Managers who have achieved and don't want the day to day stuff!

If Harry took the job, he'd get a honeymoon period (from the media). The only other person who would get an easy ride would be someone like Beckham gettng the gig (and that is so daft it could happen)!
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 08, 2012, 08:44:23 PM
Who gives a f**k !
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2012, 08:45:12 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 08, 2012, 08:39:04 PM
If Harry took the job, he'd get a honeymoon period (from the media). The only other person who would get an easy ride would be someone like Beckham gettng the gig (and that is so daft it could happen)!

Arry would get a marathon honeymoon period though. He's a media darling over there and has plenty of mates amongst the football journalists.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: seafoid on February 08, 2012, 08:47:19 PM
Jim McGuinness would put smacht on the English footballers.
He wouldn't take any messing from Rooney.  He'd be like a mixture between  Glenn Hoddle and Dick Cheney 
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: trileacman on February 08, 2012, 09:23:13 PM
You would have to say it though that the English appetite for self-destruction at sports international level is truly astounding. I mean look at their rugby team as another example. Who was the last English soccer manager who left on favourable grounds with the FA and the media? Only the French possess the same ability to sabotage their own chances by repetitive revolts and disagreements.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2012, 09:30:10 PM
Always the same with the Englanders and you would imagine the media and players have had a hand in this. When Capello arrived Fleet Street acclaimed him as the strict drill sergeant that these pampered prima donnas needed, couple of bad results and a few leaks to the red tops and lo and behold he was too strict ! The hoors will never learn, its never the players fault.

I fully expect to see 'Arry on the front of the S*n tomorrow with some sort of Dambusters or Dunkirk slant and a photo shopped British Bulldog at his side telling him his time had come to "bring football home".
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: muppet on February 08, 2012, 09:38:44 PM
(https://p.twimg.com/AlKPbksCIAAJJkL.jpg)
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: From the Bunker on February 08, 2012, 09:44:27 PM
Quote from: trileacman on February 08, 2012, 09:23:13 PM
You would have to say it though that the English appetite for self-destruction at sports international level is truly astounding. I mean look at their rugby team as another example. Who was the last English soccer manager who left on favourable grounds with the FA and the media? Only the French possess the same ability to sabotage their own chances by repetitive revolts and disagreements.

The French self destructed in the last world cup, but you have to remember that the other tournaments were fairly successful.

A proud nation like England, who have made no impact on the international stage since '66 must hurt the auld enemy. it can't be easy, having such structures in their country and they cannot produce 11 top class players.

Like ourselves (Rep of Ireland) there is often an unreal expectation. The tabloid media telling the lap dog community who they should pick, drop etc.


Gus Hiddink is the man for ths job. Knows international football. And would more than likely do a short term stint (such as a tournament only).
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: EC Unique on February 08, 2012, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 08, 2012, 09:38:44 PM
(https://p.twimg.com/AlKPbksCIAAJJkL.jpg)
:D. Class

Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: ross4life on February 08, 2012, 09:48:03 PM
Apart from the silly money he was given to manage England i don't know why Capello went into international management when he still had so much to offer at club level.

Inter are crying out for another good manager maybe he'll return to Milan for next season. As for England sure they might as well appoint Gazza.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: gawa316 on February 08, 2012, 10:21:37 PM
Thank god Northern Ireland got Michael O'Neill signed up before the english came a sniffing
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 08, 2012, 10:47:32 PM
The Big_Sam on Twitter  "Just spent the last two hours on the phone to the FA. I can confirm, however, that nothing has been agreed. It could have been very different, though, if the c***ts let me speak to someone other than Wendy the f**king cleaner"

:D :D

The media frenzy is going to be the usual laugh a minute stuff now.  You have to feel sorry for them really!
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2012, 10:53:56 PM
You couldn't make it up - harry cleared and fabio resigns on one day.

To me the harry case and the terry case stink.

In the first place why is Terry's case taking so long? Even John Motson more or less said on football focus saturday that it was wrong the case was being put back. Is it really just being put back until after the euros?? Had it been done and dusted there's every chance this wouldn't have happened.

In all seriousness - how did harry redknapp get off?? Bank account in dogs name and then he gets off with everything??

Whole thing stinks to high heaven. From the outside looking in looks like football is bigger than the law.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2012, 10:54:27 PM
With Harry's CV he would be the most impressive candidate, what is it he has on it, an FA Cup win ?
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Bingo on February 08, 2012, 10:55:10 PM
I suspect that Banty will be on back of the Star tomorrow ruling himself out of the job.

All this talk about it having to an English man next, have they forgotten they demanded the same when McLaren was appointed.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: mountainboii on February 08, 2012, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 08, 2012, 09:44:27 PM
Quote from: trileacman on February 08, 2012, 09:23:13 PM
You would have to say it though that the English appetite for self-destruction at sports international level is truly astounding. I mean look at their rugby team as another example. Who was the last English soccer manager who left on favourable grounds with the FA and the media? Only the French possess the same ability to sabotage their own chances by repetitive revolts and disagreements.

The French self destructed in the last world cup, but you have to remember that the other tournaments were fairly successful.

A proud nation like England, who have made no impact on the international stage since '66 must hurt the auld enemy. it can't be easy, having such structures in their country and they cannot produce 11 top class players.

Like ourselves (Rep of Ireland) there is often an unreal expectation. The tabloid media telling the lap dog community who they should pick, drop etc.


Gus Hiddink is the man for ths job. Knows international football. And would more than likely do a short term stint (such as a tournament only).

How true is that? They've been competitive enough to reach the last eight, and occasionally the last four, of major tournaments on numerous occasions over the last 45 years. Their overall record probably puts them around 8-10 in the world, which is about right for a football playing country of England's size.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: trileacman on February 08, 2012, 11:29:29 PM
Right enough, forget about the football shite, an off-shore bank account in his dog's name containing an undeclared £300,000 (or whatever the sum was) and he gets off scot-free. Would the rest of us been treated so lightly?

I'd Sean Quinn must be f**king ecstatic.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: screenexile on February 08, 2012, 11:46:30 PM
Quote from: trileacman on February 08, 2012, 11:29:29 PM
Right enough, forget about the football shite, an off-shore bank account in his dog's name containing an undeclared £300,000 (or whatever the sum was) and he gets off scot-free. Would the rest of us been treated so lightly?

I'd Sean Quinn must be f**king ecstatic.

Do the rest of us have £189,000 lying about?? The basis of the case from the prosecution was a shouting match of a phone call between Harry and a journo. Once the credibility of that was shot down the fact that both Harry and Mandaric have paid tens of Millions in tax between them why would they bother not paying tax of £90/100k (I think, it may be less than this?). Oh and the Revenue paid something in the region of £8m of taxpayers money on the case!!!!
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: trileacman on February 08, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 08, 2012, 11:46:30 PM
Quote from: trileacman on February 08, 2012, 11:29:29 PM
Right enough, forget about the football shite, an off-shore bank account in his dog's name containing an undeclared £300,000 (or whatever the sum was) and he gets off scot-free. Would the rest of us been treated so lightly?

I'd Sean Quinn must be f**king ecstatic.

Do the rest of us have £189,000 lying about?? The basis of the case from the prosecution was a shouting match of a phone call between Harry and a journo. Once the credibility of that was shot down the fact that both Harry and Mandaric have paid tens of Millions in tax between them why would they bother not paying tax of £90/100k (I think, it may be less than this?). Oh and the Revenue paid something in the region of £8m of taxpayers money on the case!!!!

So Arry had a oversea's bank account in the name of his dog for the sheer hell of it and it had nothing to do with tax evasion or possibly bungs? Pull the other one.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: screenexile on February 09, 2012, 12:01:06 AM
Do I think Harry is as bent as a 7 bob note? Yes! But I think the authorities got it wrong on this occasion though they needed a stronger case and more evidence!
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Main Street on February 09, 2012, 12:03:07 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 08, 2012, 11:46:30 PM
Quote from: trileacman on February 08, 2012, 11:29:29 PM
Right enough, forget about the football shite, an off-shore bank account in his dog's name containing an undeclared £300,000 (or whatever the sum was) and he gets off scot-free. Would the rest of us been treated so lightly?

I'd Sean Quinn must be f**king ecstatic.

Do the rest of us have £189,000 lying about?? The basis of the case from the prosecution was a shouting match of a phone call between Harry and a journo. Once the credibility of that was shot down the fact that both Harry and Mandaric have paid tens of Millions in tax between them why would they bother not paying tax of £90/100k (I think, it may be less than this?). Oh and the Revenue paid something in the region of £8m of taxpayers money on the case!!!!

Its irrelevant if Redknapp has paid a million in tax every year for the last 20 years.

If the account was not mentioned on his tax returns, then is it not an open and shut case? or can an employer give a gift of £190,000 to an employee  and it's not liable for tax? The employee doesn't have to declare it on his tax returns nor does he have to declare his foreign bank accounts?

It appears he can simply say the first payment was a gift and the second payment was a top up gift.  It sounds truly bizarre.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: screenexile on February 09, 2012, 12:15:46 AM
B
Quoteoth men claimed that the payments were in fact an investment plan put in place by Mandaric as a "personal gesture" by the chairman to Redknapp. Mandaric said he invested the £65,000 on Redknapp's behalf but the money was lost, so he made the second payment to replace the lost money, adding around £32,000 as "nominal profit".

The existence of the Rosie 47 account was first revealed by Redknapp himself, when he admitted its existence to investigators from Quest, an agency examining the Premier League transfer market, in November 2006.

That information was passed to City of London police, as was a tape recording of an interview conducted by News of the World reporter Rob Beasley, who asked Redknapp and Mandaric about the account in February 2009.

From the telegraph
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Main Street on February 09, 2012, 12:19:46 AM
It's still a gift of money, regardless of other descriptions offered.´
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Orangemac on February 09, 2012, 12:39:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2012, 10:53:56 PM
You couldn't make it up - harry cleared and fabio resigns on one day.

To me the harry case and the terry case stink.

In the first place why is Terry's case taking so long? Even John Motson more or less said on football focus saturday that it was wrong the case was being put back. Is it really just being put back until after the euros?? Had it been done and dusted there's every chance this wouldn't have happened.

In all seriousness - how did harry redknapp get off?? Bank account in dogs name and then he gets off with everything??

Whole thing stinks to high heaven. From the outside looking in looks like football is bigger than the law.
Supposedly Chelsea had asked for it to be put off until the end of the season and the judge agreed. Has backfired big time.

Obviously I am no fan of England team but Redknapp or whoever takes over would be better off leaving Terry at home. Better to flop giving a young fella a chance than to flop and have it blamed on Terry.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: BennyCake on February 09, 2012, 01:22:09 AM
This smells a bit like when Jose left Chelsea. Not being allowed to do things his way. And if that's the case, Capello was right to tell the FA where to go.

Now England have an excuse for failing miserably at Euro 2012. But who cares, as long as they're back home on the first plane.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 09, 2012, 02:02:42 AM
(https://p.twimg.com/AlKRuNICAAEBLCd.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Bingo on February 09, 2012, 11:09:49 AM
http://www.football365.com/faves/7498587/F365-Says (http://www.football365.com/faves/7498587/F365-Says)

Football365 can post some nonsense at times but this sums it up well.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: From the Bunker on February 09, 2012, 02:42:59 PM
Paddy Power Odds on next permanent Manager

H Redknapp 1.28

L Van Gaal  51.00

B Rodgers 67.00

S Pearce 7.00

Nigel Adkins 51.00

A Shearer 81.00

G Hiddink 10.00

C Powell  51.00

J Klinsmann 81.00

J Mourinho 17.00

G Hoddle 51.00

D Beckham 81.00
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 09, 2012, 08:03:20 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 09, 2012, 02:02:42 AM
(https://p.twimg.com/AlKRuNICAAEBLCd.jpg:large)

Bloody perjurer - he swore on the Bible he couldn't write or spell.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Forever Green on February 09, 2012, 10:06:21 PM
 :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

That is all
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: The Subbie on February 09, 2012, 10:58:36 PM
I think Steve Staunton could be good for the England job, with 'arry as his senior advisor ::)
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Hound on February 10, 2012, 09:21:31 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2012, 12:19:46 AM
It's still a gift of money, regardless of other descriptions offered.´
It seems the UK gift tax rules are different from Ireland. In Ireland its the recipient who is subject to tax - in the UK its the donor. Therefore, if a foreign resident donor gives a gift to a UK resident, its tax-free for the UK resident.

A bonus from Portsmouth FC would have been taxable.

The funds came from Mandaric himself rather than the football club's accounts. The fact that Mandaric owned the football club meant the lines were blurred, but clearly the jury decided it was a personal gift (thus tax-free) rather than a corporate bonus.

Separately I see its being reported today that Stuart Pearce's brother has stood for election for the BNP and Pearce in the past apologised for making a racist remark to Paul Ince.
Pearce will probably make Theo Walcott captain now in an attempt to prove he's not racist!
 
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 10, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
New rules from HMRC - "If a [dodgy] bonus is paid directly to a canine, then there shall be no tax liability. Sorted".
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: Orangemac on April 29, 2012, 09:57:01 PM
http://www.skysports.com/skysportsnews/0,28673,12975,00.html

Looks like Harry has missed hs chance.
Title: Re: Fabio Capello resigns as England manager
Post by: AQMP on April 30, 2012, 02:35:47 PM
Well well, Woy for Ingerlund.  A lot of pundits and journos frantically trying to explain how they got it so wrong!