Let the fun begin. I'd say Mugsy will be target to get his wings (and hair) cut.
Will we have the McMahons & Sean Cavanagh back or will Sean only get 10 mins again?
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From the unbiased Derry Journal.
Published on Tuesday 31 January 2012 12:32
IT HAS BEEN described as a 'joke' but James Conway's red card was no laughing matter for Derry boss John Brennan.
Michael Wilson reports:
His conundrum was simple. How exactly does a linesman - around 100 metres away on the far side of a pitch - spot an incident serious enough to warrant a straight red card when his colleague - positioned approximately five yards from that incident - sees nothing?
On the face of it, it's a simple enough query but Brennan is not likely to get any satisfactory answers. Not that he is expecting to. In previous games the Lavey man has watched as Sean Leo McGoldrick and Emmett McGuckin were hospitalised after challenges that went unpunished. Barry McGoldrick's name was also added to Derry's growing injury list after a challenge that annoyed the Derry boss in the Cavan game.
Then, in the 18th minute of Saturday's final, James Conway tangled with Tyrone's Colm Cavanagh close to the Derry dug-out and Fermanagh referee Martin Higgins, after consulting linesman Padraig Hughes, dismissed the Ballinderry midfielder to the shock of everyone in red.
By his own admission, Conway conceded to having a hold of Cavanagh's shirt but not even the television cameras present at the Morgan Athletic Grounds could clear up what exactly the red card offence was.
Whatever it was, it changed the game and Derry, who had strolled into a 1-03 to 0-01 lead thanks to Paddy Bradley's second goal since his return from injury, were suddenly up against it.
"I have to give credit to my players because we were down to 14 men for long periods of time and they came back to within three points so I have to give my players full credit," explained the Derry manager afterwards.
"I was impressed with their attitude and the pride they have for the Derry jersey but as everyone knows, the turning point for us was when we lost James Conway. The game took a u-turn from that point.
"I have faith in my players. They are a good bunch of players. They are dedicated and I feel sorry for them and the Derry supporters because we feel cheated tonight."
The Derry manager pointed an accusing finger at Cavanagh, who was booked in the incident, who he felt had made something out of nothing.
"We could have accepted what happened had the linesman three metres away given the decision but he didn't, it was the linesman who was 100 metres away who gave it. I find it very difficult to accept because for us that decision was wrong and up until it happened we were in a great position to win the game.
"Everything was going really well up until James was sent off. I haven't seen any footage of it yet but the reports that I've heard suggest absolutely nothing happened. The linesman who was right beside me and only a few metres away from what happened said that nothing happened.
"If a player wants to get an opponent sent off that way then let him live with it. We think that what happened was unfair but listen, we have prepared well and now our attention must turn to the National League because it's the big competition starting now."
Despite his obvious frustration at the result, the Derry manager said the Power NI McKenna Cup had once again proved a good season opener for his players.
"We were disappointed in the final result naturally enough because we would have liked to have won, we wanted to retain the trophy.
"We have done very well in the McKenna Cup and much as we would have loved to have retained the trophy, the players battled, I am proud of them and I am disappointed for them and for the supporters – but we'll fight another day.
"The bottom line for me at the minute is that I put out the best panel possible for the national league. We'll get together on Tuesday night again and start working towards the game against Galway in Celtic Park on Sunday."
Positive start
While all pre-match eyes were fixed on Peter Robinson, once the action got going Derry did their best to upstage the First Minister with a superb opening salvo that put the Oak Leafers firmly in the box seat. They took an early two point lead when Bradley converted two frees in the third and seventh minutes respectively as Conway and Joe Diver took a firm control of the midfield.
Tyrone were struggling to contain a Derry forward line in which Mark Lynch looked superb and the Banagher man took full advantage of poor handling in the Tyrone half-back line to fire over the bar in the 11th minute for a fully deserved three point lead.
Tyrone had seen two early chances sail wide but the impressive Michael Murphy finally got his side's first point on the board in the 12th minute though it looked like there would be little respite for Mickey Harte's men when Bradley found the net five minutes later. James Conway's high free was touched on by Cailean O'Boyle for Bradley - who had anticipated the touch -to gather, step inside and smash the ball past John Devine from close range for 1-03 to 0-1.
Then came Conway's red card which will undoubtedly bring a Derry appeal but, initially at least, Conway's sending off appeared to have little impact. Lynch scored an absolute 'belter' of a point in the 23rd minute when he linked up with Conleith Gilligan on the right before sending over a huge score whilst hugging the touchline to give the Oak Leafers a six point lead.
Murphy got his and Tyrone's second score when he received a wonderful pass from Owen Mulligan in the 27th minute but as Conway's red card and a nasty knee injury to Gerard O'Kane which could seem him miss the start of the National League started to takes it toll, Tyrone roared back into contention with an excellent score from Peter Harte and a free from Stephen O'Neill.
Buoyed by the brace, Tyrone started to take hold of the game and when Mulligan somehow squeezed the ball past Danny Devlin at his near post in first half injury time, Derry's lead was reduced to one leaving Cathal McCarron to restore parity at 1-05 each on the stroke of half time.
Tyrone broke from the blocks first after the restart with a phenomenal point from Stephen O'Neill on the left hand side and they extended that lead to three when Mark Donnelly pointed after the ball rebounded off the post and O'Neill converted his second free of the game.
Gilligan pulled a point back but Tyrone were making full use of the extra man and in no mood to let Derry off the hook as four scores without reply from Mattie Donnelly (2), Dermot Carlin and Cathal McCarron gave them a five point lead.
Cailean O'Boyle's late injury time penalty was scant consolation for Brennan whose attention now turns to Sunday's league opener.
"We have two big games coming up in the National League and it would be brilliant if we could get four points from our opening two games. But, as of now, we are looking only to Sunday's game against Galway. If we get two points, then so well and so good, because then we can start building towards the next game. It's going to be a difficult league."
One notable bright spot from Saturday's frustrations was the continued progress of Paddy Bradley, although the Derry manager admitted his front had little to feed from after the red card.
"Paddy did well right up until we had our man sent off because after that he was starved of any real ball going into him. Paddy will come good like a lot of the other players. James Conway will be back and we have a few other players to come back from injury too.
"We'll get stronger because we have prepared well and hopefully we'll get better."
DERRY: D. Devlin; D McBride, L. Morrow, R. Dillon; G. O'Kane, B.McCallion, B. McGoldrick ; J. Conway, J. Diver; C. McKaigue, M. Lynch (0-2), S.L. McGoldrick (0-1); Cailean O'Boyle (1-0), P. Bradley (1-2, 2f), C. Gilligan (0-3, 2f).
Subs: N. Forrister for G. O'Kane 10 mins; K. O'Neill for N. Forrester 40 mins; P.J. McCloskey for J. Diver 46 mins; M. Craig for R. Dillon 54 mins; E. Lynn for C. Gilligan.
TYRONE: J. Devine; A.McCroy, J. McMahon, P.J. Quinn; C. McCarron (0-2), P. Harte (0-1), D. Carlin (0-1); M. Murphy (0-2), C. Cavanagh; Mattie Donnelly (0-3), P. Hughes, M. Penrose; O. Mulligan (1-1, 1f), Mark Donnelly (0-1), S. O'Neill (0-2, 1f).
Subs: J. McMahon for C. Cavanagh 21 mins; J. Lafferty for M. Penrose 38 mins; S. O'Neill for J. McMahon 47 mins; R. O'Neill (0-1) for S. O'Neill 64 mins; S. McNulty for M. Murphy 64 mins.
REFEREE: Martin Higgins (Fermanagh). Attendance: 4,715
Very disappointed at you Fuzz, pulling on the no.4 shirt for Derry.
With an ever growing injury list, this will be lambs to the slaughter. Not looking forward to it one bit :-\
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
Very disappointed at you Fuzz, pulling on the no.4 shirt for Derry.
LOL
not far off alright !!
see the continuity of the Tyrone side that night and the team that beat kildare.
compare the lannigans ball Derry side that was put out yesterday - and we wonder why we are playing so sihte..
Derry are brilliant at excuses. We have lost 5/6 of the bet players we have ever had, ie Mc Guigan Mc Ginley, Jordan, Hub etc and we are starting with a new inexperienced team in the past 5 matches. Kind of levels it out a bit sheamy!!!
Id be too long at this game to not expect a Derry backlash this week. They will see Tyrone as the ultimate pick-me-up. Bradley will be all the better for the football he has under his belt to date. We could see a return of "Paddy the Power" this Sunday in Omagh. Any word on mcMahon * 2. My ideal Tyrone formation would be Clarke at 3, Justy at 6, Joe and Sean Cavanagh at 8 and 9 and Petey at 11 with O Neill playing at 14 even if he has 15 on then back.
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
Very disappointed at you Fuzz, pulling on the no.4 shirt for Derry.
;D Haha I've also been called Nigel Winterburn the odd time. Who is it? I used to think I looked like (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/Tommy_Walsh_%26_Kevin_McGuckin.jpg/300px-Tommy_Walsh_%26_Kevin_McGuckin.jpg)
If Derry lose this one they could be struggling for points come March. Who else do they have at home?
you would think derry would be well pumped up for tyrone on sunday think derry have some really good players but diver n devlin the goalie are not really guys to keep a cool head. P harte playing chb is bit like enda mc ginley doin fb for a while can see him come back to hf line.
Tyrone enjoyed the wide open spaces of HQ and a pitch in great nick as always. We all know what Omagh will be like next Sunday. Heavy conditions that will sap both teams. I hope we can keep improving and move onto 4 points, but the old enemy will be licking their lips. Tyrone should have more experienced players to come in. Conor Clark would be very unlucky to get the shepherd's hook, but at the same time Paddy Bradley looks as potent as ever. Team selection will be interesting.
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 06, 2012, 04:50:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
Very disappointed at you Fuzz, pulling on the no.4 shirt for Derry.
;D Haha I've also been called Nigel Winterburn the odd time. Who is it?
Ryan Dillon of Swatragh I believe, aka Fuzzman -- too close to the Derry border on that mountain! ;)
Team selection will be very interesting & Thursday night will tell a tale...
Goalkeeper - will be rotated, Devine In.
Defence - On the plus side Joe McMahon & Dermy Carlin will be available again for selection. Think Justy is injured again (unconfirmed) , as is Conor Clarke who pulled the hamstring on Saturday night (confirmed). Clarke was unavailble for Omagh U21's on Sunday & likely to miss out next sunday as well. Damian McCaul pushing hard for a chance now. Ricey will be hoping to see game time also.
Midfield - I rate big Cassidy highly, and he took one for the team on Saturday night. No where near fit enough to participate (following another injury setback) but he made himself available for selection under the circumstances and emptied the tank. Michael Murphy's star didnt shine as brightly last time out. Jury still out IMO. Perhaps we could see Joe McMahon line out here again? He was very effective there in the McKenna final.
Forwards - Peter Hughe's position you would feel would be under serious threat. The other 5 positions i feel pick themselves now. Harte wont t**ker with a winning formulae here. I think Tommy McGuigan is available again, plus Big Sean will likely get another 10 mins towards the end to continue his rehabilitation. As I alluded to before, I would like to see Kyle Coney given an opportunity. McNiece, Gervin etc didnt really grab the bull by the horns in the McKenna cup but Coney hasnt even had a decent opportunity this year to date. Also - what of Lafferty? Seems like a long time ago now that he impressed against QUB. Seems to be slipping down the pecking order.
Regardless of team selection - Derry will be well up for this one. They need the points, and they are getting slated by their own at the minute. Expect a backlash in the shape of a negative, bitter ugly battle, heavy narrow pitch, pulling & dragging match just - which will level it up immensely. There wont be more than a couple of points in it at the end. Discipline is crucial, however hopefully Tyrone's superior class will shine out.
Good post there god but healy park narrow? jaysus i remember playing there for the u-16s thinking id need a hurricane to blow to carry the ball across the field!
Derry will be well fired up for Sunday's game and going by their performance against Galway it would look like a Tyrone win.But as we all know with these derby games it's never as simple as that.They won't lack motivation after what happened in the McKenna cup final and will be a very dangerous opponent come Sunday.
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No Sean ONeill for this game, 3 month suspension arising from St Marys Sigerson game last week.
Quote from: shezam on February 07, 2012, 10:19:46 PM
No Sean ONeill for this game, 3 month suspension arising from St Marys Sigerson game last week.
3 months! :o What did he do?
Altercation involving the referee-Ardboe's Gavin Teague also hit with same suspension
Quote from: God14 on February 07, 2012, 11:03:14 AM
Team selection will be very interesting & Thursday night will tell a tale...
Goalkeeper - will be rotated, Devine In.
Defence - On the plus side Joe McMahon & Dermy Carlin will be available again for selection. Think Justy is injured again (unconfirmed) , as is Conor Clarke who pulled the hamstring on Saturday night (confirmed). Clarke was unavailble for Omagh U21's on Sunday & likely to miss out next sunday as well. Damian McCaul pushing hard for a chance now. Ricey will be hoping to see game time also.
Midfield - I rate big Cassidy highly, and he took one for the team on Saturday night. No where near fit enough to participate (following another injury setback) but he made himself available for selection under the circumstances and emptied the tank. Michael Murphy's star didnt shine as brightly last time out. Jury still out IMO. Perhaps we could see Joe McMahon line out here again? He was very effective there in the McKenna final.
Forwards - Peter Hughe's position you would feel would be under serious threat. The other 5 positions i feel pick themselves now. Harte wont t**ker with a winning formulae here. I think Tommy McGuigan is available again, plus Big Sean will likely get another 10 mins towards the end to continue his rehabilitation. As I alluded to before, I would like to see Kyle Coney given an opportunity. McNiece, Gervin etc didnt really grab the bull by the horns in the McKenna cup but Coney hasnt even had a decent opportunity this year to date. Also - what of Lafferty? Seems like a long time ago now that he impressed against QUB. Seems to be slipping down the pecking order.
Regardless of team selection - Derry will be well up for this one. They need the points, and they are getting slated by their own at the minute. Expect a backlash in the shape of a negative, bitter ugly battle, heavy narrow pitch, pulling & dragging match just - which will level it up immensely. There wont be more than a couple of points in it at the end. Discipline is crucial, however hopefully Tyrone's superior class will shine out.
Was thinking about the like of Lafferty and Coney yesterday, and when you look at the list of forwards that there is available then its going to be hard to get a start and if one of them gets a start they will need to do something special to get another go, whereas the like of Tommy McGuigan or Penrose could do very little and will get another chance.
Quote from: God14 on February 07, 2012, 11:03:14 AM
Team selection will be very interesting & Thursday night will tell a tale...
Goalkeeper - will be rotated, Devine In.
Defence - On the plus side Joe McMahon & Dermy Carlin will be available again for selection. Think Justy is injured again (unconfirmed) , as is Conor Clarke who pulled the hamstring on Saturday night (confirmed). Clarke was unavailble for Omagh U21's on Sunday & likely to miss out next sunday as well. Damian McCaul pushing hard for a chance now. Ricey will be hoping to see game time also.
Midfield - I rate big Cassidy highly, and he took one for the team on Saturday night. No where near fit enough to participate (following another injury setback) but he made himself available for selection under the circumstances and emptied the tank. Michael Murphy's star didnt shine as brightly last time out. Jury still out IMO. Perhaps we could see Joe McMahon line out here again? He was very effective there in the McKenna final.
Forwards - Peter Hughe's position you would feel would be under serious threat. The other 5 positions i feel pick themselves now. Harte wont t**ker with a winning formulae here. I think Tommy McGuigan is available again, plus Big Sean will likely get another 10 mins towards the end to continue his rehabilitation. As I alluded to before, I would like to see Kyle Coney given an opportunity. McNiece, Gervin etc didnt really grab the bull by the horns in the McKenna cup but Coney hasnt even had a decent opportunity this year to date. Also - what of Lafferty? Seems like a long time ago now that he impressed against QUB. Seems to be slipping down the pecking order.
Regardless of team selection - Derry will be well up for this one. They need the points, and they are getting slated by their own at the minute. Expect a backlash in the shape of a negative, bitter ugly battle, heavy narrow pitch, pulling & dragging match just - which will level it up immensely. There wont be more than a couple of points in it at the end. Discipline is crucial, however hopefully Tyrone's superior class will shine out.
"A negative bitter ugly battle...pulling and dragging match" Sound like a Tyrone game right enough!! ::)
And before the Tyrone hordes come steaming in, i would say Tyrone will win this game. You have had and continue to have better footballers in Tyrone over the last 10 odd years. But Jesus lad get off your high horse with the the "Tyrone are holier than thou" attitude
Quick question.
What time will the Tyrone/ Armagh Ulster championship game throw in at? Has it been set yet?
1 Jonathan Curran – Oileán a'Ghuail
2 Aidan McCrory – Aireagal Chiaráin
3 Conor Clarke – An Omaigh
4 PJ Quinn – Baile na Móna
5 Cathal McCarron – An Droim Mór
6 Peter Harte – Aireagal Chiaráin
7 Damian McCaul – Domhnach Mór
8 Michael Murphy – An Gallbhaile
9 Aidan Cassidy – Eochar
10 Matthew Donnelly – Trí Leac
11 Mark Donnelly – An Charraig Mhór
12 Ronan McNabb - An Droim Mhór
13 Owen Mulligan – An Chorra Chríochach
14 Martin Penrose – Achadh Uí Aráin
15 Stephen O'Neill – Clann na nGael
16 Pascal McConnell – An Baile Nua
17 Dermot Carlin – Coill an Chlochair
18 Sean Cavanagh – An Mhaigh
19 Kyle Coney – Ard Bó
20 Ciaran Gervin – Doire Locháin
21 Peter Hughes – Eiscreach
22 Jonathan Lafferty – Urnaí
23 Tommy McGuigan – Ard Bó
24 Niall McKenna – Domhnach Mór
25 Joe McMahon – An Omaigh
26 Justin McMahon – An Omaigh
Haven't a clue Norf. If it's not on the gaa or Ulster council website then maybe it's still to be decided. Wow. Interesting selection Mickey. I can only count five regulars from last year. I hope Murphy rises to the challenge again. When's the last time McNabb started a game?
Interesting selection all right, though a few of the higher numbers are missing off that list (as usual), i.e., Rónán O'Neill.
The bench would take the first team I think (with numbers evened up)
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 09, 2012, 08:33:19 PM
Interesting selection all right, though a few of the higher numbers are missing off that list (as usual), i.e., Rónán O'Neill.
As per normal tyrone subs are in alphabetical order - e.g. Ricey, McNally, Ronan O Neil, Sean O Neil if appealing suspension etc. They have to name 26 but tog out all 32 or so and then only Harte knows who the 26 players who are listed.
Harte is clearly reshaping the structure & shape of the team at the moment. I am having difficulty defining exactly what it is - but what is very noticeable is that the half forwards & half backs seem to have their traditional roles reversed as regards defence & attack.
Harte, McCaul & McCarron will again be the driving force in most attacks, they each possess great speed & ball carrying ability. Last Saturday night, young forward Mattie Donnelly alluded in an interview with teamtalkmag.com that he was given a different role - playing in the half back line. McNabb will in all likelihood have a similar role this sunday. Possibly Penrose too.
Petey Harte is still the play maker & has become Tyrone's most important player. I feel the new 'system' has been designed partly to get the most out of Harte & get him on the ball as often as possible, in as much space as possible. His accurate kick passes & surging runs have been a key feature of Tyrone's play in 2012.
Hopefully i'll understand the system better after sunday. Clarke Vs Paddy Brads will be an interesting battle.
Interestingly RTE predict a victory for 2/1 shot's Doire on Sunday. http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2012/0210/tyrone_derry.html
Expecting the worst on Sunday, but holding out the hope that the sight of the Tyrone jersey can some how rise a performance out of somewhere on. The long and short of it there is a fair distance between the abilities of the two teams who will take the field in Omagh, much less of a gap if we had a full panel to pick from.
The mobility of our players around the middle of the field last week was shocking, a week wont have changed that most, although a heavy pitch in Omagh might level that out slightly. Our full back line is in transition and unless we can somehow stop a supply of ball into O'Neill then they will be in for a long afternoon. The sending off in the McKenna Cup final masked a lot of our failings that where exposed last weekend.
Tyrone by 5/6 pulling up.
Quote from: God14 on February 10, 2012, 10:15:17 AM
Harte is clearly reshaping the structure & shape of the team at the moment. I am having difficulty defining exactly what it is - but what is very noticeable is that the half forwards & half backs seem to have their traditional roles reversed as regards defence & attack.
Harte, McCaul & McCarron will again be the driving force in most attacks, they each possess great speed & ball carrying ability. Last Saturday night, young forward Mattie Donnelly alluded in an interview with teamtalkmag.com that he was given a different role - playing in the half back line. McNabb will in all likelihood have a similar role this sunday. Possibly Penrose too.
Petey Harte is still the play maker & has become Tyrone's most important player. I feel the new 'system' has been designed partly to get the most out of Harte & get him on the ball as often as possible, in as much space as possible. His accurate kick passes & surging runs have been a key feature of Tyrone's play in 2012.
Hopefully i'll understand the system better after sunday. Clarke Vs Paddy Brads will be an interesting battle.
Interestingly RTE predict a victory for 2/1 shot's Doire on Sunday. http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2012/0210/tyrone_derry.html
I don't think there's a massive difference in the 5&7 positions and their role compared to the Harte/Jordan era. Also 10&12 is similar to Dooher/Joe. What has changed is having a playmaker at 6. I still think that individually, Tyrone are very average defensively.
@ O'Neill - I would agree about your comments regarding the defense. There's always a reassuring feeling when you look at the teamsheet & see the two McMahons in it!
Plus with Conor Gormley to come back in, there should be a different look about it as the year progresses.
Still think that the defense should perform well this Sunday against a derry attack missing Eoin Brads, James Kielt & Enda Muldoon.
I don't think Derry have much chance if their main hope is that they'll be "up" for playing Tyrone. Which of the Tyrone players are going to be unmotivated!?
Derry have little or no hope in this game...we are considerably weaker than we were even for the McKenna cup game with McBride, Gerard O'Kane (albeit he went off injured early in that game), Barry McGoldrick and Mark Craig all becoming injured since that match.
We'll struggle big time to win anything around the middle third again I think which will put our young inexperienced defence under too much pressure. If we could get the ball to our forwards we could score alright, but I dont think we'll get much possession or supply into them.
Tirrone with a bit to spare and without having to put too much effort in. :-[
Hope I'm wrong though.
I would expect P.J Quinn to mark Bradley again.Think it would be too much to ask of Clarke at this stage.
Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick but did I not read somewhere Clarke was injured?
What injury does Cassidy mainly suffer from? He seems to be out a lot doesn't he.
I thought he was awesome down in Longford last year.
Has mcNabb played HF before?
"Lowlife Bowl" ?
Quote from: oakleafgael on February 10, 2012, 10:46:30 AM
Expecting the worst on Sunday, but holding out the hope that the sight of the Tyrone jersey can some how rise a performance out of somewhere on. The long and short of it there is a fair distance between the abilities of the two teams who will take the field in Omagh, much less of a gap if we had a full panel to pick from.
The mobility of our players around the middle of the field last week was shocking, a week wont have changed that most, although a heavy pitch in Omagh might level that out slightly. Our full back line is in transition and unless we can somehow stop a supply of ball into O'Neill then they will be in for a long afternoon. The sending off in the McKenna Cup final masked a lot of our failings that where exposed last weekend.
Tyrone by 5/6 pulling up.
Is that another phrase for Shite
TFAL,
At what level of the game was it you played at?
From Derrygaa.ie......
The Derry team to play Tyrone in Sunday's Allianz National Football League fixture at Omagh on Sunday (2.30pm) sees first starts of the year for Brian Doyle and Charlie Kielt with Craigbane's Blaine Gormley getting a first call-up to the Derry Senior football squad.
The full squad is as follows:
1 Paul Morgan (Cill Ria)
2 Brian McCallion (An Grainloch)
3 Brian Doyle (An Lúb)
4 Aidan McAlynn (An Lúb)
5 Chrissy McKaigue (Sleacht Néill)
6 Charlie Kielt (Cill Ria)
7 Sean Leo McGoldrick (Cúil Rathain)
8 Joe Diver (Baile Eochaidh)
9 James Conway (Baile An Doire)
10 Michael Bateson (Droichead Nua)
11 Mark Lynch (Beannchar)
12 Barry McGoldrick (Cúil Rathain)
13 Cailean O'Boyle (An Leamhaigh)
14 Paddy Bradley (Gleann An Iolair)
15 Enda Lynn (An Grainloch)
16 Stephen Harbinson (Droim Soirn)
17 Ryan Dillon (Suaitreach)
18 Liam Morrow (Cill Ria)
19 Michael Drumm (An Leamhaigh)
20 P J McCloskey (Beannchar)
21 Emmett Mc Guckian (Machaire Fiolta)
22 Eoghan Brown (Baile Eochaidh)
23 Conleith Gilligan (Baile An Doire)
24 Blaine Gormley (Charraig Bhan)
25 Patsy Bradley (Sleacht Néill)
26 Kevin O Neill (An Leamhaigh)
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on February 10, 2012, 04:59:12 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on February 10, 2012, 10:46:30 AM
Expecting the worst on Sunday, but holding out the hope that the sight of the Tyrone jersey can some how rise a performance out of somewhere on. The long and short of it there is a fair distance between the abilities of the two teams who will take the field in Omagh, much less of a gap if we had a full panel to pick from.
The mobility of our players around the middle of the field last week was shocking, a week wont have changed that most, although a heavy pitch in Omagh might level that out slightly. Our full back line is in transition and unless we can somehow stop a supply of ball into O'Neill then they will be in for a long afternoon. The sending off in the McKenna Cup final masked a lot of our failings that where exposed last weekend.
Tyrone by 5/6 pulling up.
Is that another phrase for Shite
That would be your interpretation of it not mine, they have to start somewhere. I remember seeing Tony Scullion in his first year in the Derry shirt and he took a while to settle. They are the best we have at the minute.
what is it about teams ending in erry and cute hoorism? It might not be your strongest team but you'd have to say the same about us. We've got Stevie and Mugsy and you've got Paddy and o'Boyle. Yer midfield are probably better fielders. If Peter Harte plays well we should win at home but it's not gonna be an easy game I think. Tyrone league games in Omagh usually aren't facile victories.
I'm disappointed Dillion isn't starting.
Actually fancy that tyrone team to get that derry team so humiliated that the busdriver kicks them off at newbuildings
Tyrone 1-10 Derry 0-04
Owen Mulligan scores a short free, and Tyrone lead by 10.
Tyrone 1-11 Derry 0-04
Peter Harte brought down, and Tyrone are awarded a penalty. Patsy Bradley sent off
GOAL.......... Peter Harte scores a beautiful penalty
Tyrone 2-11 Derry 0-04
O'Boyle scores a short free for Derry
Tyrone 2-12 Derry 0-06
Sean Cavanagh replaces Owen Mulligan
Mark Donnelly splits the posts, and Tyrone now lead 13
Tyrone 2-13 Derry 0-06
Kyle Coney scores a point, and the score is
Tyrone 2-14 Derry 0-06
Kielt scores a point for Derry
Tyrone 2-14 Derry 0-07
Full time whistle blows, and Tyrone win their 2nd game in the League.
Tyrone 2-15 Derry 0-09
I was very worried before the game.After losing to us in the McKenna cup final i was expecting to see a fired up Derry side hell bent on revenge.I couldn't believe how hopeless they were today.
I attended my first Tyrone v Derry game in 1982 and i have to say that today's performance from Derry was their worst ever against Tyrone in my time.
Very hard to say how good Tyrone were as Derry were so bad,but to beat them by 12 pts was very sweet nonetheless.Tir Eoghain abu!!
Just like Armagh, you simply never tire of thrashing the muck-savages from the Sperrins. ;D
Great win for Tyrone, though they wernt really up against much. Derry were very poor all over. Great performances from Clarke, Carlin, McCarron, Harte, Murphy, Mattie Donnelly, Mark Donnelly, Mugsy and Stevie. Would give Mattie Donnelly MOTM. Got through a lot of work in the half forward line, and when moved into full forward line was a great target man and won plenty of ball, hit a great point as well. Been impressed with the way Clarke has settled into the team and looks comfortable there. McCarron at half back has been another revelation and great at attacking.
Any news on Stevie's injury?
Sounds like a walk in the park alright with no keepie uppies in Omagh
How did McNabb play and MF?
Good to see Murphy step up the perfomance after last week and Mattie Donnelly is showing more and more, the benefits of getting a bit of a run.
Like Club Rossa, I was expecting a backlash from Derry after the McKenna and because it's Tyrone. However, they just never showed up and I've never seen such a Derry performance against us. It got to a point, I was getting embarrassed for my Derry friends.
Does nothing for us, as I'm unsure where Tyrone are, especially after seeing Kildare get a good beating in Monaghan.
After the Hill heartache of yesterday, it was good to hear of an in-bred implosion. Apart from the latest McKenna match, Derry had the measure of Tyrone in the last couple of years. Brings back memories of Casement '03 and Clones '04.
In all seriousness, what's up with Derry? Is Brennan on dodgy ground?
Quote from: ONeill on February 13, 2012, 09:12:56 AM
After the Hill heartache of yesterday, it was good to hear of an in-bred implosion. Apart from the latest McKenna match, Derry had the measure of Tyrone in the last couple of years. Brings back memories of Casement '03 and Clones '04.
In all seriousness, what's up with Derry? Is Brennan on dodgy ground?
Don't know. Brennan isn't in trouble I just think there is a realisation that we don't have the players and you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. I have no doubt that we will put up a fight come Championship though but at present we just don't have the quality.
Brennan has form in this regard as the Loup were relegation candidates 2 years ago and looked like doing nothing in the Championship yet he somehow miraculously turned them around to win a Championship so he is capable of producing something special from a limited bunch of players. I just can't see it happening for us though I would love to.
At this stage what is annoying me more than the performances themselves is the perceived lack of heart. You can talk about injuries and quality of players all you like but if a team hasn't got heart then you're basically fcuked!!
Quote from: ONeill on February 13, 2012, 09:12:56 AM
In all seriousness, what's up with Derry? Is Brennan on dodgy ground?
The problem in Derry is very simple, lack of quality intercounty footballers. Not available yesterday due to injury or not match fit where James Kielt, Enda Muldoon, Eoin Bradley, Gerard O'Kane and Conleth Gilligan. On top of that Kevin McGuckin is recently retired and Paddy Bradley is still a fair bit of full fitness. All of these would be starters on the championship team. Their replacements are untried at intercounty level and to date they look beneath the standard required. We havent competed consistently at minor and U21 level in a long time and the days of year on year Macrory cup success are long gone.
Brennan is unfortunate that he got the job at the wrong time. This will be his last year I would think.
Yesterday was a forgettable day for Derry supporters and there have been plenty of those in the recent past. It should serve as a wake up call to the panel of the level they are at and was is requried of inter county footballers. The difference in ability of some of those on display was noticable but what was very obvious was the massive difference in the fitness levels of both teams.
I have no problem getting beaten by the better team but to be beaten by your biggest rivals with such a heartless display is very hard to take. Its February and a long way off the championship yet but the intensity that Derry played with yesterday was shocking. There was more effort put in by some of those playing at halftime.
The only thing that was worse than the Derry performance yesterday was that of the referee. It seems to be the way the game is going but its not for the better. Consistently inconsistent was how it could be best described. Most of the decisions seemed to be made by the crowd in the stand, whenever they gulgered he blew the whistle. The booking of a Derry player for the "tackle" on Stevie O'Neill was among one of the most farcical decisions I have seen at a game.
Unless there is a massive change in the way the Derry team is set up and the attitude of those wearing the shirt it will be a very short year.
From a Tyrone perspective Clarke at fullback looks like a possible starter which would free Justin McMahon to move out the field. I have always rated Carlin highly and he is now the best marker in the team. McCarron showed well again although he is very one sided. O'Neill was moving well, although was very loosely marked, and hopefully his injury isnt as bad as it looked. I dont see the sense in playing him on as heavy a pitch as Omagh.
The two midfielders where excellent but up against a very limited pair who they dominated. Penrose covers a lot of ground and got his hands on a lot of ball. Everytime he tackles he fouls but he gets away with on account of his size. The two Donnellys both played well but I think the Trillick man is wasted on the wing, looks like a full forward to me.
Its hard to guage accurately the Tyrone team due to the limited opposition and the fact that they are close enough to summer fitness but they are shaping well with the two McMahons, Cavanagh's plus Gormley to come back into the team. Curran will be dropped come the summer and McMenamin based on the form of the current defence isn't going to get a place.
I presume its not possible to see this match on TV anywhere or do TG4 have highlights?
Sounds like Tyrone wiped the floor with them so we can't read too much into it but that's 2 games in a row now we've knocked up big scores and we're scoring goals
It can only be good for confidence and will create huge competition for places
I for one like the sound of this Clarke lad. I saw him last Sat night and he's a big strong lad for 19
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 13, 2012, 05:27:28 PM
I presume its not possible to see this match on TV anywhere or do TG4 have highlights?
Sounds like Tyrone wiped the floor with them so we can't read too much into it but that's 2 games in a row now we've knocked up big scores and we're scoring goals
It can only be good for confidence and will create huge competition for places
I for one like the sound of this Clarke lad. I saw him last Sat night and he's a big strong lad for 19
Have serious reservations about the same player when the hard ground comes and the pace is of a much higher tempo
Some scores here :
http://www.u.tv/Sport/Tyrone-outplay-disappointing-Derry/9e2c2f9f-6478-47db-8402-7ecf9c1f2d55
Good man Mick. Where do UTV get these videos from? Do they have cameras at all Northern matches?
UTV prob had footage arranged hoping for a row. Tyrone had some great passages of play on sunday was impressed with our half back line though mc nabb n mattie donnelly were doin a lot work there, think its good to see tyrone strong there been a long time since they were