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Title: Lovely People
Post by: Rossfan on January 10, 2012, 12:12:36 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0110/breaking25.html
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Ulick on January 10, 2012, 12:18:18 PM
Nolan was talking about this on Radio Ulster this morning. Commenting on the lack of calls into the show about it, he said "dog dirt" on the streets gets more of a reaction.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: mannix on January 10, 2012, 12:45:38 PM
Human nature is very strange, we think we are civilized but very close to the surface lies the monster.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 10, 2012, 12:48:02 PM
Not enough bullets.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Agent Orange on January 10, 2012, 12:56:58 PM
Frankie Turleys son?
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: AQMP on January 10, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
Why can't the people of the Village just move on like the rest of us have?
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 10, 2012, 01:27:02 PM
QuoteHe said. "They stamped on my head and everywhere. The woman (the householder) said: 'Get him out of my garden' and they dragged me out into the alley.

The woman should be as ashamed as the gang (even though their not i would say)
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Minder on January 10, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 10, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
Why can't the people of the Village just move on like the rest of us have?

I thought the village was full of various sorts of foreigners these days.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: nifan on January 10, 2012, 01:58:57 PM
Some scum still about.
I wonder how they knew he was a catholic
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: AQMP on January 10, 2012, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 10, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 10, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
Why can't the people of the Village just move on like the rest of us have?

I thought the village was full of various sorts of foreigners these days.

Not quite full it seems
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Minder on January 10, 2012, 02:16:08 PM
Quote from: nifan on January 10, 2012, 01:58:57 PM
Some scum still about.
I wonder how they knew he was a catholic

Wondered that myself.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: EagleLord on January 10, 2012, 02:51:25 PM
That was my first thought aswell. Probably just wearing an oneills top or something?
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: take_yer_points on January 10, 2012, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: Ulick on January 10, 2012, 12:18:18 PM
Nolan was talking about this on Radio Ulster this morning. Commenting on the lack of calls into the show about it, he said "dog dirt" on the streets gets more of a reaction.

Nolan also said he'd like to speak to the fella's family and after the news (I think) he came back saying he'd had tweets saying that the fella's father was listening. In the article Rossfan posted it says the father was murdered in 1998. Maybe whoever tweeted in meant his step-father was listening (if he even has one - I don't know them at all) but it seemed strange
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: seafoid on January 10, 2012, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: mannix on January 10, 2012, 12:45:38 PM
Human nature is very strange, we think we are civilized but very close to the surface lies the monster.
I would have though belfast got a lot of funding in the last while to try and tackle this sort of religious violence. 
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: theskull1 on January 10, 2012, 07:15:44 PM
Quote from: nifan on January 10, 2012, 01:58:57 PM
Some scum still about.
I wonder how they knew he was a catholic

Vernier calipers
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: lawnseed on January 10, 2012, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 10, 2012, 07:15:44 PM
Quote from: nifan on January 10, 2012, 01:58:57 PM
Some scum still about.
I wonder how they knew he was a catholic

Vernier calipers
hard to beat a bit of black comedy. aren't these the crowd looking for money/grants to create the 'orange quarter' maybe they think some authentic catholic bashing will add merit to their handout... errr i mean grant application
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: ross matt on January 10, 2012, 09:57:22 PM
Sectarian savages. You would have hoped those days were over.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Orangemac on January 10, 2012, 10:51:20 PM
Pure scum, probably looked for protection money from the film crew as well.

Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Aerlik on January 11, 2012, 11:09:58 AM
This is not an attempt to stir, but do you think that it matters not one iota that the perpetrators were prods and the victim a taig?  Such thuggery is becoming pretty commonplace in Perth every weekend, without the "label" we have in the north.

Fed up with this sickening violence.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: oisinog on January 11, 2012, 11:14:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 10, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 10, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
Why can't the people of the Village just move on like the rest of us have?

I thought the village was full of various sorts of foreigners these days.

Sure minder they chased them all out last year
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: take_yer_points on January 11, 2012, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: Aerlik on January 11, 2012, 11:09:58 AM
This is not an attempt to stir, but do you think that it matters not one iota that the perpetrators were prods and the victim a taig?  Such thuggery is becoming pretty commonplace in Perth every weekend, without the "label" we have in the north.

Fed up with this sickening violence.

According to a caller on Nolan this morning this was a cross community initiative and they had been filming in the Short strand prior to this (some time over the last few weeks I think he said). He suggested that it was common knowledge that this return visit was happening if I remember correctly
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
I used to live just of the Lisburn road many years ago, was dandering home with the mate and another girl, we cut through the street that runs along side Dublin road, dodgy as fcuk I know, nature called and i had a piss up an entry. When i got back onto the street my friends were away down the other end.

Two boyos arrived on my shoulder and asked the usual stupid questions "alright mate, whats your name, where ya from, where ya heading to, say h" (made that bit up) eventually they took a wild guess and called me a Fenian cnut!!! maybe it was my good looks and charm that convinced them :D

At this point i pushed off from them and ran, ran like my life depended on it. they were squealing (like f**king mad men) going to shoot you, ya bastard and so on. Never catching me.

My friends seen this happening and alerted the police who were really close (by chance), the police came down the street looking for me. The first place they looked for me was in the black bins!!! Just shows you that they knew that these animals would cut ya up and f**k you into a bin to die!!!

Very lucky boy
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Lowlifes. Why is sectarianism so deeply ingrained in Loyalism?

Obviously sectarianism occurs on both sides of the spectrum but the sheer venom you get with Loyalists is unrivaled. They are a truly disturbed people.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Lowlifes. Why is sectarianism so deeply ingrained in Loyalism?

Obviously sectarianism occurs on both sides of the spectrum but the sheer venom you get with Loyalists is unrivaled. They are a truly disturbed people.


Lets not generalise.

These feckers who carry this out wont be changing in a hurry, its a mindset handed down by their families, deep rooted and as long as they live in these ghettos they will continue to generate this hatred.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 01:51:35 PM
Yes, these wee villages and towns have their feckers to.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: armaghniac on January 11, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
QuoteLets not generalise.

The whole colonial 17th century thing is deeply disturbed.

QuoteThese feckers who carry this out wont be changing in a hurry, its a mindset handed down by their families, deep rooted and as long as they live in these ghettos they will continue to generate this hatred.

In a ghetto, a stupid youth might fall in with others  and get into this kind of thing, even if his family were not especially bigoted.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Brick Tamlin on January 11, 2012, 01:57:32 PM
might not help or solve the issue but interesting to know that The Village area is to undergo a regeneration scheme, works beginnng in March/April time.
Good bit of the area being cleaned out and new social housing to be built. Works will be phased and will include a substantial amount of new housing. Fun for the builders who get that work.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: HiMucker on January 11, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
I used to live just of the Lisburn road many years ago, was dandering home with the mate and another girl, we cut through the street that runs along side Dublin road, dodgy as fcuk I know, nature called and i had a piss up an entry. When i got back onto the street my friends were away down the other end.

Two boyos arrived on my shoulder and asked the usual stupid questions "alright mate, whats your name, where ya from, where ya heading to, say h" (made that bit up) eventually they took a wild guess and called me a Fenian cnut!!! maybe it was my good looks and charm that convinced them :D

At this point i pushed off from them and ran, ran like my life depended on it. they were squealing (like f**king mad men) going to shoot you, ya b**tard and so on. Never catching me.

My friends seen this happening and alerted the police who were really close (by chance), the police came down the street looking for me. The first place they looked for me was in the black bins!!! Just shows you that they knew that these animals would cut ya up and f**k you into a bin to die!!!

Very lucky boy
Would it not be safe to say if you had of zipped down your top and showed them a rangers jersy they would still have given you hammering because they didnt know you?  Scum are scum and sometimes the sectarian issue is just an excuse.
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on January 11, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
I used to live just of the Lisburn road many years ago, was dandering home with the mate and another girl, we cut through the street that runs along side Dublin road, dodgy as fcuk I know, nature called and i had a piss up an entry. When i got back onto the street my friends were away down the other end.

Two boyos arrived on my shoulder and asked the usual stupid questions "alright mate, whats your name, where ya from, where ya heading to, say h" (made that bit up) eventually they took a wild guess and called me a Fenian cnut!!! maybe it was my good looks and charm that convinced them :D

At this point i pushed off from them and ran, ran like my life depended on it. they were squealing (like f**king mad men) going to shoot you, ya b**tard and so on. Never catching me.

My friends seen this happening and alerted the police who were really close (by chance), the police came down the street looking for me. The first place they looked for me was in the black bins!!! Just shows you that they knew that these animals would cut ya up and f**k you into a bin to die!!!

Very lucky boy
Would it not be safe to say if you had of zipped down your top and showed them a rangers jersy they would still have given you hammering because they didnt know you?  Scum are scum and sometimes the sectarian issue is just an excuse.

Exactly my point, when they didn't know they just attacked anyway, a guess which could have ended my life!!
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 11, 2012, 02:07:00 PM
Can the prominent members of this community not get a grip on the troublemakers - surely someone would be able to explain to these assholes that getting a film crew to come into their area would be a good thing and raise their profile. Possibly even treat them with some manners and make them walk away saying 'that area of belfast was a nice place!' - what do the idiots do? chase the film crew and and try to kill a lad because of his religious beliefs! UNBELIEVABLE.

I wonder are the cops interviewing the man and woman who let the gang into their house to get at the cub?
Title: Re: Lovely People
Post by: HiMucker on January 11, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on January 11, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
I used to live just of the Lisburn road many years ago, was dandering home with the mate and another girl, we cut through the street that runs along side Dublin road, dodgy as fcuk I know, nature called and i had a piss up an entry. When i got back onto the street my friends were away down the other end.

Two boyos arrived on my shoulder and asked the usual stupid questions "alright mate, whats your name, where ya from, where ya heading to, say h" (made that bit up) eventually they took a wild guess and called me a Fenian cnut!!! maybe it was my good looks and charm that convinced them :D

At this point i pushed off from them and ran, ran like my life depended on it. they were squealing (like f**king mad men) going to shoot you, ya b**tard and so on. Never catching me.

My friends seen this happening and alerted the police who were really close (by chance), the police came down the street looking for me. The first place they looked for me was in the black bins!!! Just shows you that they knew that these animals would cut ya up and f**k you into a bin to die!!!

Very lucky boy
Would it not be safe to say if you had of zipped down your top and showed them a rangers jersy they would still have given you hammering because they didnt know you?  Scum are scum and sometimes the sectarian issue is just an excuse.

Exactly my point, when they didn't know they just attacked anyway, a guess which could have ended my life!!
Right I get you.