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Title: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: lawnseed 2 on March 13, 2007, 11:31:43 PM
i note that ireland has a team in the cricket world cup. with all the talk about anthems over the last 4or 5 weeks does anyone know what national anthem "our" team have played before they play i just wondering if they will be looking for croker anytime soon. well  its based on the gaelic game rounders they might as well get in there as well :D
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: dublinfella on March 13, 2007, 11:47:01 PM
Quote from: lawnseed 2 on March 13, 2007, 11:31:43 PM
i note that ireland has a team in the cricket world cup. with all the talk about anthems over the last 4or 5 weeks does anyone know what national anthem "our" team have played before they play i just wondering if they will be looking for croker anytime soon. well  its based on the gaelic game rounders they might as well get in there as well :D

considering the pitch is much bigger, unless they pull a Thomas Davis and demand parts of CP be demolished to accomodate, hard to see it happening  ;).

Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 13, 2007, 11:56:37 PM
Quote from: lawnseed 2 on March 13, 2007, 11:31:43 PM
i note that ireland has a team in the cricket world cup. with all the talk about anthems over the last 4or 5 weeks does anyone know what national anthem "our" team have played before they play i just wondering if they will be looking for croker anytime soon. well  its based on the gaelic game rounders they might as well get in there as well :D

I don't think the cricket team have any official anthem although I did hear they might be using Ireland's Call.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 14, 2007, 12:05:27 AM
We'll find out on Thursday vs Zimbabwe
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: never kickt a ball on March 14, 2007, 01:24:57 AM
Got this off a google. Don't know what won though:

The Irish cricket team competing at the World Cup in Jamaica in March will have a theme song to rival rugby's 'Ireland's Call', and it's been inspired by the biggest cricketing community in the country - Fingal.
This week sees the launch of a competition to come up with the perfect Irish cricket team anthem, and songwriters and performers have until Friday February 23, to get their entries in.
The winner will walk away for a cheque for a 1000 Euro courtesy of Seamus Murphy/Murphy Environmental.
"The World Cup is something totally new for Irish cricket, and it was felt by many that we needed an anthem to mark the occasion, and we'll be singing the winning song in Jamaica, " stated the man behind the project, local councillor David O' Connor.
The process is relatively simple. Singers and songwriters, (who can get somebody else to perform their song if they so wish), must get their entry on cassette or CD to Hubert Murphy in the Fingal Independent, 4 Main Street, Swords, Co Dublin, on or before February 23 at noon. The song must be their original work, and they should supply contact details.
Once all the entries are in, a panel of judges will decide on a shortlist for a gala night to be held at the Irish Cricket school of excellence, In Balrothery on Wednesday February 28.
Entrants must be available to perform their song on the night.
"The whole cricketing thing is gaining momentum by the day with the World Cup advancing, and we expect a good entry for this competition. Naturally the song won't be too long, and the chorus will be the key to the whole thing," Dave explains.
"This idea is coming from the grass roots of Irish cricket, and we think the players will love the idea too."
The 500 strong army of fans will depart for the West Indies on March 10, all armed with the words of a new song.

(http://www.cricketeurope4.net/DATABASE/ARTICLES/uploads/3821/10750.jpg)
Title: C'mon Ireland???
Post by: never kickt a ball on March 14, 2007, 01:29:19 AM
LOCAL cricketer Martin Byrne from The Hills wrote and performed the winning song in the Irish World Cup song contest, which took place at the Balrothery centre.
He bowled the judges over and walked off with the E1,000 first prize, sponsored by Seamus Murphy and Murphy Environmental with his rendition of C'mon Ireland!
But he had very stiff opposition for the award, with entries flowing in to the Fingal Independent offices from places such as London, Kerry and Mayo.
After a shortlist was finalised, the five lucky contenders were invited to the Balrothery centre last Wednesday to perform in front of a live audience.
The chairman of the judging panel, Hubert Murphy, editor of the Fingal Independent, David O'Connor, President of North County and Arthur Vincent from the Irish Cricket Union, were given a difficult task in selecting the winner, such was the talent on view.
Martin Byrne, a member of The Hills Cricket Club, was first up on stage. Paul Kelly and his backing group, that included singers who got well into the spirit of things and even brought a shark along, was next up with his delightful 'Slow boat to Jamaica.'
Colm Reilly and Peter Baxter from Balbriggan combined to deliver 'Ireland in the Green' while Norman Wylie travelled all the way from Westport with his 'Bowl the World Over.'The final performers on the night were the brothers from Firhouse, Kevin and Phelim Warren with 'Ireland Hit 'em Hard.'

(http://www.cricketeurope4.net/DATABASE/ARTICLES/uploads/3999/FN_Martin_Byrne_Winner_1%5B1%5D.jpg)

And here it is:

A new Irish anthem will be aired at Sabina, thanks to former Hills cricketer Martin Byrne. The contest organised by the Fingal Independent had a huge entry but Byrne emerged from the final five with 'C'mon Ireland'. Songsheets and CDs of the tunes will be distributed to fans heading to the Caribbean. The winning song begins:

"You can talk about Italia and Euro '88. With the oval ball in Croke Park the future's looking great. Now we're on a new adventure and things are on the up. We are going to Jamaica for the cricket world cup. C'mon Ireland c'mon Ireland. We're going to bring the world cup back and win or lose we're going to have the craic." My own favourite chant is the old advert for bread adopted for Adi's Army. Altogether now: "Johnston, Mooneys and O'Briens..."

Aw FFS "With the oval ball in Croke Park the future's looking great" Let the protests begin......... :o

http://www.cricketeurope4.net/DATABASE/ARTICLES/articles/000040/004012.shtml
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: muppet on March 14, 2007, 04:35:53 AM
 Amazingly the headbangers ( and thread police ) have stayed away from this thread.

Michael Cusack ( remember him? ) wanted the National game of his fellow Gaels to be Cricket. Imagine how things would be now if Croke and co ( Davitt? ) hadn't talked him into promoting hurling and gaelic football instead.

5 reasons why the Gaa should have played cricket:

* If the Championship was 5 day test cricket we would not work at all in the summer;
* Rugby or soccer would not have been played in Croker in case it damaged the crease;
* I would give anything to hear Micheál commentating on cricket;
* Training would have been less painful;
* We would have sorted out another Boycott;
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: Hardy on March 14, 2007, 08:56:25 AM
We'd never have finished the championship in this country, because they have to stop every time a drop of rain falls. Also, any sport that's regulated by tea breaks misses something fundamental about the essence and passion of sport.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: Billys Boots on March 14, 2007, 09:09:46 AM
QuoteAlso, any sport that's regulated by tea breaks

It could be the official sport of SIPTU.  :P
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: screenexile on March 14, 2007, 10:11:34 AM
That sounds like a very strange song to me, I was sure that the cricketers would use Ireland's Call as well. I was in Barcelona a few years ago with the woman who was a hockey player and we decided to call into the hockey World Cup to see how Ireland were doing. To my amazement the team stood to the Ireland's call anthem. Anyone know why this is? I thouht it was only for the peanut huggers. I suppose if the anthem was brought in to recognise a 32 county team then it may as well be used for the cricketers and hockey players.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: Hound on March 14, 2007, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 14, 2007, 08:56:25 AM
We'd never have finished the championship in this country, because they have to stop every time a drop of rain falls. Also, any sport that's regulated by tea breaks misses something fundamental about the essence and passion of sport.
tis many the GAA team who've had a cuppa at half-time over the years! Not sure how that negatively impacts on the essence or passion of sport...
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: fearglasmor on March 14, 2007, 03:07:42 PM
Jayz, Martin "Curley" Byrne finds national fame at last. The man has been a legend at manys a clubhouse, bar and after hours party in Nth Fingal for years now.
Next stop Youre a Star. He'll be bowled over to find himself featured on gaaboard.com  The same Martin was an excellent midfielder with Man O'War  when they were at their peak in the late 70's / early 80's

Go on The Hills.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: bottlethrower7 on March 14, 2007, 03:17:06 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on March 13, 2007, 11:47:01 PM
Quote from: lawnseed 2 on March 13, 2007, 11:31:43 PM
i note that ireland has a team in the cricket world cup. with all the talk about anthems over the last 4or 5 weeks does anyone know what national anthem "our" team have played before they play i just wondering if they will be looking for croker anytime soon. well  its based on the gaelic game rounders they might as well get in there as well :D

considering the pitch is much bigger, unless they pull a Thomas Davis and demand parts of CP be demolished to accomodate, hard to see it happening  ;).



you're pulling facts out of your arse there
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: dublinfella on March 14, 2007, 04:22:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 14, 2007, 04:35:53 AM
Amazingly the headbangers have stayed away from this thread.

not for long....

Quote from: bottlethrower7 on March 14, 2007, 03:17:06 PM


you're pulling facts out of your arse there

sigh. which 'facts' exactly? that a cricket pitch is bigger or thomas davis want a soccer ground altered for their use?
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: dubnut on March 14, 2007, 04:27:28 PM
Jesus you hate Thomas Davis Dublinfella!
let it go
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: dublinfella on March 14, 2007, 05:03:04 PM
Quote from: dubnut on March 14, 2007, 04:27:28 PM
Jesus you hate Thomas Davis Dublinfella!
let it go

the entire thread was tongue in cheek until you two arrived....  ::)
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: dubnut on March 14, 2007, 05:09:11 PM
"Tongue in cheek" while getting your point in at the same time.

It would be taken as tongue in cheek from most others but your sole crusade in life seems to be defending Shamrock Rovers versus Thomas Davis.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: spectator on March 14, 2007, 10:06:23 PM
Wondering do any of ye know of current or ex-cricket fields outside of The Pale? ???

I heard there was one in Birr, Co. Offaly until fairly recent times.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: fearglasmor on March 15, 2007, 08:36:18 AM
Quote from: spectator on March 14, 2007, 10:06:23 PM
Wondering do any of ye know of current or ex-cricket fields outside of The Pale? ???

I heard there was one in Birr, Co. Offaly until fairly recent times.

Yeah, Ballyeighan I think.   Mullingar used have a cricket team too.
Of course theres loads of them up north.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: lawnseed 2 on March 15, 2007, 08:59:17 AM
so when exactly are we going to get rid of the soldiers song completely and start singing irelands call. id say the cricket guys got a tasty cheque or two from the lottery or sports council to represent the country so why dont they acknowledge the national anthem. the things a joke and sounds like a booze cruise to me.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: dublinfella on March 15, 2007, 03:14:29 PM
Quote from: dubnut on March 14, 2007, 05:09:11 PM
"Tongue in cheek" while getting your point in at the same time.

It would be taken as tongue in cheek from most others but your sole crusade in life seems to be defending Shamrock Rovers versus Thomas Davis.

Christ, I dont want to bring another topic off thread, but when did i ever defend Shamrock Rovers? My problem is with the expensive madness that is suing the Dept to force others to groundshare while refusing to reciprocate. SR never demanded to use TD's publically funded facilities.... Essentially the DCB through TD are asking the court to make rule 42 illegal if public funds are used which i find to be a strategic mistake of the highest order. It also has the side effect of endangering GAA funding in the future, somthing Sean Moran touched on in the Times.

Anyway, did Ed Joyce make the Engerland squad? Any chance he could face the team he left?
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: From the Bunker on March 19, 2007, 12:44:29 PM
Cricket is here in Mayo! The Mall (Green) in Castlebar is supposed to be a cricket ground, sanctioned by Landlord Lucan. There was a (Makeshift) team there not so long ago (if still there). Also Ballyhaunis had a nifty Cricket team a few years ago winning National titles.....I think!
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: true ulster gael on March 19, 2007, 01:04:21 PM
nothing like a bandwaggon to get the west brits going
watch all of them trying to play it this summer after becoming overnight experts
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: Bensars on March 19, 2007, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: true ulster gael on March 19, 2007, 01:04:21 PM
nothing like a bandwaggon to get the west brits going

a bit like republican sinn fein then!!
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: spectator on March 20, 2007, 10:49:56 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 19, 2007, 12:44:29 PM
Cricket is here in Mayo! The Mall (Green) in Castlebar is supposed to be a cricket ground, sanctioned by Landlord Lucan. There was a (Makeshift) team there not so long ago (if still there). Also Ballyhaunis had a nifty Cricket team a few years ago winning National titles.....I think!

Imagine that! Ballyhaunis has had Pakistanis working & living there this 25 years - is that just coincidence, or was playing cricket their initiative?

Then again, aren't Castlebar & Ballyhaunis two of the Mayo towns where club hurling has also been revived in recent years?

Ye have some range of sports on the go over there in Mayo, more power to ye :)


Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: muppet on March 20, 2007, 11:19:40 PM
QuoteYe have some range of sports on the go over there in Mayo, more power to ye

Less of that talk. There's only one sport in Mayo.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: Mike Sheehy on March 21, 2007, 02:43:45 AM
Quotenothing like a bandwaggon to get the west brits going
watch all of them trying to play it this summer after becoming overnight experts

Dont really like cricket at all but I hope they go far just to annoy wankers like you.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 21, 2007, 08:25:26 AM
QuoteWondering do any of ye know of current or ex-cricket fields outside of The Pale?

There are one's in Athy, Kilkock and Portlaosie.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: zoyler on March 21, 2007, 09:58:49 PM
Not often I agree with Mike Sheehy but itwas only a matter of time till TUG smelt a few west brits to be to put in their place.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: spectator on March 22, 2007, 09:01:52 AM
Talking of cricket in Croker, this IT article quotes Archibishops Croke's directive on the sport's suitability for Irishmen ;)


An Irishman's Diary

James Fitzgerald - Irish Times
26 January 2005

This is the time of year when lovers of cricket in this part of the world begin to feel that familiar and bitter pang for summer that only a miserable January afternoon can bring. Forgotten are all those rain-affected draws or washed-out matches of last season; instead one remembers the sun-weathered faces, the aroma of freshly cut grass, the camaraderie of team-mates and the promise of endless summer.

It is also the time of year when cricket enthusiasts, denied of playing or watching their favourite sport, engage in their second favourite pastime, reading about it. Just published by Liskeveen Books is perhaps one of the most esoteric but nonetheless important books of the past year. Foreign and Fantastic Field Sports - Cricket in County Tipperary, by Patrick Bracken, challenges all lovers of sport in that part of Ireland and further afield to recognise a long forgotten but hugely influential part of their social and sporting culture.

In this impressive and academic study, Bracken has revealed that in 1876, when Tipp cricket was at its peak, there were at least 43 teams active in the county, making it the most popular team sport at that time in a part of the world that people would have you believe has been a hotbed of hurling since the time of Cú Chulainn. But in those days, it seems, boys and men, from town or country, from big house or lowly hovel, would rather wield the willow than the ash. According to Bracken, in 1850 there were more cricket clubs in Co Tipperary than in the whole of Ulster and in total he has identified some 260 cricket teams that played the game there since its introduction in 1834. The sport was prevalent all over the county but chiefly in and around Clonmel, Cahir, Cashel, Tipperary town, Nenagh, Thurles and Roscrea. It is interesting to note that long before the village of Toomevara, in north Tipperary, was dominating the world of club hurling, it boasted four cricket clubs. These days, Ballyeighan CC, who play at the foot of Knockshegowna Hill, and Clonmel CC are the last remaining clubs still active in the Premier County.

"Cricket [ in Tipperary] was widely played by Catholic and Protestant; landlord and tenant; clergyman and policeman; soldier and merchant," writes Bracken.

And it is not just Tipperary that was fascinated by cricket at that time. The game was widespread throughout Dublin - especially in Fingal - Cork, Kilkenny, Carlow and most other parts of Ireland that enjoyed or endured the presence of garrison or ascendant Protestant from across the Irish Sea.

But the day of cricket in rural Ireland was not to last long into the 20th century. Archbishop Thomas W. Croke and others in the GAA saw to that. The book's title is a quotation from a letter that the Archbishop of Cashel wrote to Michael Cusack in 1884 when asked to be a patron of the fledgling association.

"We have got such foreign and fantastic field sports as lawn tennis, polo, croquet, cricket and the like - very excellent, I believe, and health-giving exercises in their way, still not racy of the soil, but rather alien to it, as are for the most part the men and women who first introduced and still continue to patronise them." There then followed a chauvinistic rant from the archbishop, lamenting the demise of sports and activities he felt were peculiarly Irish, such as leap-frog, wrestling and rounders among others. "[ When we put on] with England's stuffs and broadcloths, her 'masher' habits and such other effeminate follies as she may recommend, we had better at once, and publicly, abjure our nationality, clap hands for joy at the sight of the Union Jack, and place England's bloody red exultingly [ sic] above the green.

" With senior men of the cloth such as Croke wielding their considerable powers with incendiary language as that, it is no wonder that playing cricket almost became tantamount to treason in many parts of the community.

But the really sad thing about cricket is not that the game went through a decline (one which is now very much on the turn), but that its joyous and life-giving effects were airbrushed out of Irish sporting history and, indeed, Irish social culture as if it were somehow more politically distasteful than other "foreign and fantastic field sports" such as soccer, rugby or golf. The legacy of cricket in most parts of Ireland is, quite simply, that it has no legacy. It was demonised as a hateful tool and archetypal symbol of British imperialist oppression to such an extent that for generations no one spoke of it, like a shamed young woman banished to the Magdalen laundry. And as a result, it eventually disappeared not only from the village greens and open fields of rural Ireland but also from the consciousness of those whose fathers and grandfathers had innocently relished the purity and athleticism of the great game. As Bracken says, cricket in many parts of Ireland has been a victim of "historical amnesia".

Now, though, Irish cricket's renaissance is under way, with "new" Irish people at the forefront of its revival, men and women whose forefathers in the sub-continent or antipodes were never made to feel less Indian, Pakistani or Australian just for picking up a bat. Perhaps some day cricket will again be welcomed by all and sundry in Tipperary with the same free enthusiasm and zeal that marked its arrival to the county in the 1830s.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: fearglasmor on March 22, 2007, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: true ulster gael on March 19, 2007, 01:04:21 PM
nothing like a bandwaggon to get the west brits going
watch all of them trying to play it this summer after becoming overnight experts

Yes you should head down to Balrothery and visit the North County Grounds, or in behind the church in Balbriggan or maybe head out to Milverton near Skerries and introduce yourself to all the west brits, I'm sure theyd all welcome you accordingly.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: Billys Boots on March 22, 2007, 12:58:50 PM
They've a (relatively) new academy in Knockbrack now fgm, very impressive indeed.  My youngsters have been playing it in National School for two years now - one of the clubs sends someone every week of the summer term for introductory coaching.  The kids love it, along with their Football, Hurling, Soccer, Rugby and Basketball.
Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: fearglasmor on March 22, 2007, 05:35:17 PM
Is that out in "the bog" BB.  They have a good community setup out there.
Cricket is a great summer game, played it meself at schoolboy level with The Hills, but the clash with football was too much as I got older so the cricket went.

Funny enough I was eyeing the mall here in Longford last summer thinking it would be a nice cricket pitch if you could get 11 or 12 lads interested.
But they went and built an allweather pitch and took away a lot of ground.

Title: Re: world cup cricket in croker??
Post by: Billys Boots on March 23, 2007, 08:49:56 AM
QuoteIs that out in "the bog" BB.

No fgm, not as far out as 'The Bog', it's only about a 1/4 mile from the Balrothery Inn.