Seeing that they're refusing to lie down when they're seemingly down and out. They will have to be taken seriously from here on in. Their gameplan is doing them no harm either. I have a feeling Sam's heading to the hills.
QuoteI have a feeling Sam's heading to the hills.
Perhaps some Tyrone person will bring Sam into Donegal, for the bragging rights.
Hate having to say but Please God No. That's meant with disrespect but I don't want to watch any copy cat counties next year. Two are enough in the country
Just can't see them winning it. Short a few top class forwards to win an All Ireland
been a great year for Donegal in all fairness both in the league and championship. However, I really can't see them getting into the finals never mind lifting Sam.
I can't see ourselves, Tyrone, getting to the final either. Think Dublin will win but hope I'm wrong. To be honest, if we do beat the dubs, I'd be confident that we would beat Donegal in a very one sided game. And if we meet Kerry in the final, I'd have to go with Kerry.
my prediction is a Kerry v Dublin final. My predictions so far in the championship have been spot on, apart from Mayo v cork game. hope I'm wrong on this one too!
Perhaps, teams are finding it hard to play their game against the donegal game.
Scores have to taken every time an opportunity arises and failure to convert seems to spur the likes of Lacey and Cassidy on more.
Personally though i would be joining an ABD (anyone but donegal) club if it were to start!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 01, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
Seeing that they're refusing to lie down when they're seemingly down and out. They will have to be taken seriously from here on in. Their gameplan is doing them no harm either. I have a feeling Sam's heading to the hills.
For me they would be the worst possible team for Mayo to get if we were to somehow manage to overcome the mammoth task that is Kerry.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 01, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
Seeing that they're refusing to lie down when they're seemingly down and out. They will have to be taken seriously from here on in. Their gameplan is doing them no harm either. I have a feeling Sam's heading to the hills.
For me they would be the worst possible team for Mayo to get if we were to somehow manage to overcome the mammoth task that is Kerry.
The Mayo lads are looking past Kerry already...oh the arrogance !!!!
I don't think Donegal will win the All Ireland (although I did back them each way at 66/1 after the league final!) unless our forward unit clicks.
Donegal's defence is the best in the country. Our midfield is regularly out fielded and out played, our wing half forwards are auxiliary defenders and our full forward line has not functioned effectively in any game this year. McFadden, Murphy, McBrearty and Molloy have all shown brief glimpses of their ability, but they haven't done it on the same day or even individually for a whole match.
If the full forward line were to find its groove, and Hegarty et al were able to provide the right supply of ball, we'd have a chance of giving the semi-final a good rattle. And we'd have to do the same again in the final.
It's possible, but unlikely.
In saying that, 12 or 13 Donegal players put in tremendous performances in the 1992 All-Ireland final and if the 2011 vintage could hit that kind of form anything would be possible...
This is one to be answered after the semi ;)
QuoteThis is one to be answered after the semi
If they don't win the semi, I wouldn't give them any chance.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 01, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
Seeing that they're refusing to lie down when they're seemingly down and out. They will have to be taken seriously from here on in. Their gameplan is doing them no harm either. I have a feeling Sam's heading to the hills.
For me they would be the worst possible team for Mayo to get if we were to somehow manage to overcome the mammoth task that is Kerry.
The Mayo lads are looking past Kerry already...oh the arrogance !!!!
Nice try MS ;)
Who ever comes out of Saturday nights clash (Tyrone I suspect) will dispose of Donegal with ease. They are an average side that have had more than their fair share of luck at this stage.
Whilst I would like Donegal to win, I dont think they will go all the way. I think they'll come unstuck when a team (Tyrone/Dublin) goes 5 or 6 points ahead and Donegal are forced to open up and attack leaving gaps at the back which the likes of Tyrone in particular would punish and pick them off on the break.
Quote from: EC Unique on August 02, 2011, 01:17:28 PM
Who ever comes out of Saturday nights clash (Tyrone I suspect) will dispose of Donegal with ease. They are an average side that have had more than their fair share of luck at this stage.
Careful now...if Jim reads that you'll be the next villain of the piece.
'Errigal men bad mouthing Tir Conaill backed by his neighbour Mickey Harte'
Using an internet campaign to influence referees into believing Donegal have been given too many dodgy decisions this year. It's just not on I tell you!
'And if I could I'd build a wall around old Donegal...'
Quote from: borderfox on August 02, 2011, 01:29:28 PM
Whilst I would like Donegal to win, I dont think they will go all the way. I think they'll come unstuck when a team (Tyrone/Dublin) goes 5 or 6 points ahead and Donegal are forced to open up and attack leaving gaps at the back which the likes of Tyrone in particular would punish and pick them off on the break.
Tyrone led by 5 in the Ulster semi final, and Donegal reeled them in.
They are currently playing a bit like Meath in the 90s - they refuse to accept they're beaten.
I would back the ABD campaign!
I have nothing against Donegal at all and in normal circumstances I'd be delighted for them as they have won nothing of note in a generation. However I hate the way they play, I hate the cynicism in their play (despiutes Jimmy McGuinness claims of innocence - what a joke!) and I hate a team who have rode their luck across a number of games. For those reasons it's ABD all the way for me!
Quote from: ck on August 02, 2011, 02:24:41 PM
I would back the ABD campaign!
I have nothing against Donegal at all and in normal circumstances I'd be delighted for them as they have won nothing of note in a generation. However I hate the way they play, I hate the cynicism in their play (despiutes Jimmy McGuinness claims of innocence - what a joke!) and I hate a team who have rode their luck across a number of games. For those reasons it's ABD all the way for me!
Really? and what games would these be? ???
Quote from: EC Unique on August 02, 2011, 01:17:28 PM
Who ever comes out of Saturday nights clash (Tyrone I suspect) will dispose of Donegal with ease. They are an average side that have had more than their fair share of luck at this stage.
Like they have done earlier on this season?
Keep thinking that way though, hopefully the winners of Saturdays match go in against Donegal as cocksure as you! ;)
Sure many of these boys have been writing us off before every single game since the Cavan match! I'm sure the Donegal-Tyrone thread from back in June would make amusing reading!
As for the luck thing... the penalty Derry didn't get and the Kildare square ball. Howver, I wonder would the likes of CK be crying if Kildare had got through having benefited from square balls in two earlier games.
Murphy's ridiculous early red card doesn't count as it was only Cavan.
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Quote from: EC Unique on August 02, 2011, 01:17:28 PM
Who ever comes out of Saturday nights clash (Tyrone I suspect) will dispose of Donegal with ease. They are an average side that have had more than their fair share of luck at this stage.
Careful now...if Jim reads that you'll be the next villain of the piece.
'Errigal men bad mouthing Tir Conaill backed by his neighbour Mickey Harte'
Using an internet campaign to influence referees into believing Donegal have been given too many dodgy decisions this year. It's just not on I tell you!
'And if I could I'd build a wall around old Donegal...'
:D :D I had better watch my back.
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Who ever comes out of Saturday nights clash (Tyrone I suspect) will dispose of Donegal with ease. They are an average side that have had more than their fair share of luck at this stage.
Like they have done earlier on this season?
Keep thinking that way though, hopefully the winners of Saturdays match go in against Donegal as cocksure as you! ;)
Regardless of who wins on Saturday, they'll go into the semi final as favourites in most people's eyes.
Which is just the way to have it.
Derry in the Ulster final and now Kildare never saw us coming.
Tyrone would be wary of us, but the Dubs would be sure they'd win.
So with apologies to Tyrone: come on de Dubs.
I'd prefer the Dubs, even if they would be strong favourites. While I see no reason why we can't beat Tyrone again, especially given our awful, nervy start the last day, it would be a more painful loss if they were to beat us.
We also owe the Dubs for 2002! :P
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Regardless of who wins on Saturday, they'll go into the semi final as favourites in most people's eyes.
Which is just the way to have it.
I'd rather be favourites, thanks.
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Quote from: JHume on August 02, 2011, 03:24:28 PM
Regardless of who wins on Saturday, they'll go into the semi final as favourites in most people's eyes.
Which is just the way to have it.
I'd rather be favourites, thanks.
Nah think I prefer going into a game as underdogs, focus's players better.
Quote from: ck on August 02, 2011, 02:24:41 PM
I would back the ABD campaign!
I have nothing against Donegal at all and in normal circumstances I'd be delighted for them as they have won nothing of note in a generation. However I hate the way they play, I hate the cynicism in their play (despiutes Jimmy McGuinness claims of innocence - what a joke!) and I hate a team who have rode their luck across a number of games. For those reasons it's ABD all the way for me!
Agree completely. And as much as I hate the dubs, if they beat us on Saturday I hope they go on to trounce Donegal.
I cannot see how Dublin are feared so much. Yes they were within a whisker of reaching last year's AI, but this year they did get lucky against Kildare and very lucky against Wexford too. I think Tyrone can take Dublin to be honest. If Tyrone fail to take Dublin, then donegal's defensive system would have to shut out the Brogan brothers - and given that they've done just enough (with ladyluck on their side the last day admittedly) so far I can see them taking Dublin as well. Who's to say that Tyrone will beat them if they play them again either. McGuinness will ensure his team are focussed on everything, and may even play a few 'mind games' too.
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I would back the ABD campaign!
I have nothing against Donegal at all and in normal circumstances I'd be delighted for them as they have won nothing of note in a generation. However I hate the way they play, I hate the cynicism in their play (despiutes Jimmy McGuinness claims of innocence - what a joke!) and I hate a team who have rode their luck across a number of games. For those reasons it's ABD all the way for me!
Really? and what games would these be? ???
Do you really need to ask? The whole country is talking about how lucky they have been with big decisions going for them!
What way would Donegal bring Sam home? Say by train to Sligo or by road through Aughnacloy/Omagh/Strabane?
I can't recall 1992 homecoming.
Sligo
So far Antrim got 7 scores,Cavan 9,Tyrone 9,Derry 9 & Kildare 14 scores over 90mins v them, it's not hard too see why Donegal are in the Semi final with a defensive record like that.
While some don't like there style of play i have to say i was in awe of their display on Saturday night, the sheer workrate commitment,determination & leaders all over the pitch has to be admired.
It's going to take a special performance from Dublin/Tyrone to stop this Donegal side from reaching the All Ireland final.
Whilst its great to see new counties competing at the business end of the season I have to say Donegal with their ultra defensive style are the exception. They seem to have an in built psyche that 12 players must be behind the ball for most of the game. Watching the game on Saturday I couldn't believe just how many men they filtered back. Whilst their organisation and work rate cannot be doubted, their style of play is horrible to watch. It's puke football in its purest form.
Its like trying to enter Fort Knox trying to unhinge that Donegal defence. Under normal circumstances I'd love to see Donegal win the title but I fear that if they do so this year, every club team in the country will imitate their style and bring Gaelic Football even closer to Rugby League.
Why do you's hate it? I think the intensity they bring to a game is unreal. You savour every score that we bit extra. I can say hands down that that Donegal/Kildare game was one of the best I'll ever witness in flesh.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 02, 2011, 11:40:48 PM
Why do you's hate it? I think the intensity they bring to a game is unreal. You savour every score that we bit extra. I can say hands down that that Donegal/Kildare game was one of the best I'll ever witness in flesh.
Are you serious? 5-3 at half time. Have you been to many matches?
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Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 02, 2011, 11:40:48 PM
Why do you's hate it? I think the intensity they bring to a game is unreal. You savour every score that we bit extra. I can say hands down that that Donegal/Kildare game was one of the best I'll ever witness in flesh.
Are you serious? 5-3 at half time. Have you been to many matches?
Yeah, the rest of the game is irrelevant.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 02, 2011, 09:20:52 PM
I can't recall 1992 homecoming.
Neither can anyone else.
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Whilst its great to see new counties competing at the business end of the season I have to say Donegal with their ultra defensive style are the exception. They seem to have an in built psyche that 12 players must be behind the ball for most of the game. Watching the game on Saturday I couldn't believe just how many men they filtered back. Whilst their organisation and work rate cannot be doubted, their style of play is horrible to watch. It's puke football in its purest form.
Its like trying to enter Fort Knox trying to unhinge that Donegal defence. Under normal circumstances I'd love to see Donegal win the title but I fear that if they do so this year, every club team in the country will imitate their style and bring Gaelic Football even closer to Rugby League.
That's spot on and my main opposition to it. It completely destroys club football where perhaps the attacking prowess ain't as great to pick apart the 12 man defence. However, I take nothing away from Donegal. They do what they have to and their willingness to battle and fight is an inspiration just as it was with Tyrone in 2003. I just hate watching it and hate the thought of all teams playing like that especially clubs.
It's a clever game for many reasons. It plays the percentages. If you have 12 men in front of the goal it's unlikely many teams will score goals. The only options to do so are hail mary balls. The Kildare 'goal' is one example and the Derry 'penalty' in Ulster final is another. However, both are low percentage events. So you largely eliminate goals and that gives you a great chance of winning. You only ever have to change tact if the other team gets a sizeable lead - another low percentage event. To be 2/3/4 points behind for most of the game is fine because it always means you are there or thereabouts with a chance in the last 10mins. This was the old Armagh philosophy and seems to be adopted in this case too. Again, totally fair enough and makes sense.
To my mind the natural evolution of this game is for the attacking team to bring 12 men into attack as well to match the 12 defenders. At this point the game does become rugby with a round ball. There is then no room for kick passing and hand passing dominates completely. From time to time you'll get the garryowen as well :)
At the minute the only option to overcome it seems to be to mirror it and in this case you get the first half of the Kildare v Donegal game. It'll be interesting to see if anyone can take it apart in an attacking sense. Tyrone nearly did in the Ulster semi final, or more accurately did take it apart but failed to convert their chances. Only Tyrone or Kerry would be capabable at present I think.
I realise all games evolve. Soccer is played like this as is rugby (obviously). Just hate the thought of football going the same. Like everyone else I really enjoyed the second half of the game and also appreciate the tactical play involved. Just wouldn't like to see all games becoming like this. Even the first half was better than that Kerry v Limerick effort though!
What's the solution? 13 a side? 4-6 players in other half at all times? Is one even needed?
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Why do you's hate it? I think the intensity they bring to a game is unreal. You savour every score that we bit extra. I can say hands down that that Donegal/Kildare game was one of the best I'll ever witness in flesh.
Are you serious? 5-3 at half time. Have you been to many matches?
Yeah, the rest of the game is irrelevant.
Fair enough J70 the rest of the game was of a much better standard than the first half but the first half counted for over 30% of the game time. It was one of the worst halfs ever played in croke park.
Do you not agree that
''that Donegal/Kildare game was one of the best I'll ever witness in flesh.''
is a bit crazy?
It was exciting yes but football standard was average to poor.
The Donegal v Kildare game was only exciting because it was tight. This game was by no means a classic. It was far from a classic IMO. The first half was terrible. Donegal kicked a miserly 2 points in 36 minutes play.
Derry v Down in 1994 was a classic and probably one of the best games ever played. Donegal v Kildare was nowhere near that game.
Quote from: borderfox on August 03, 2011, 10:00:28 AM
The Donegal v Kildare game was only exciting because it was tight. This game was by no means a classic. It was far from a classic IMO. The first half was terrible. Donegal kicked a miserly 2 points in 36 minutes play.
Derry v Down in 1994 was a classic and probably one of the best games ever played. Donegal v Kildare was nowhere near that game.
Thing is that game wouldn't happen now borderfox. The highlight of that game (for neutrals and Down people!) was Mickey Linden torturing defenders. However, it was usually one defender at a time. Even Mickey would have found it utterly impossible to play against the ultra defensive approach.
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Whilst I would like Donegal to win, I dont think they will go all the way. I think they'll come unstuck when a team (Tyrone/Dublin) goes 5 or 6 points ahead and Donegal are forced to open up and attack leaving gaps at the back which the likes of Tyrone in particular would punish and pick them off on the break.
Tyrone led by 5 in the Ulster semi final, and Donegal reeled them in.
They are currently playing a bit like Meath in the 90s - they refuse to accept they're beaten.
Reeled them in? Donegal got a lucky break towards the end of the game which gave them a win in a game which they were second best. I honestly can't see it happening again if the two sides meet.
Donegal converted two goal chances against Tyrone, a team that didn't create a single goal chance against them.
That hardly constitutes a lucky break - both goals were particularly well taken and we've seen several teams fail to goal in similar situations in the weeks since.
In saying that, I'd prefer to play Dublin than Tyrone in the semi-final. Having beat them twice this year already, Tyrone will be forewarned about Donegal.
If the Dubs beat the 3-time All-IReland champions and are looking to a dream final against Kerry, the hype will lull them into a false sense of complacency.
Quote from: JHume on August 03, 2011, 10:45:55 AM
Donegal converted two goal chances against Tyrone, a team that didn't create a single goal chance against them.That hardly constitutes a lucky break - both goals were particularly well taken and we've seen several teams fail to goal in similar situations in the weeks since.
In saying that, I'd prefer to play Dublin than Tyrone in the semi-final. Having beat them twice this year already, Tyrone will be forewarned about Donegal.
If the Dubs beat the 3-time All-IReland champions and are looking to a dream final against Kerry, the hype will lull them into a false sense of complacency.
I might be wrong but I thought O'Niell was in on goal once with a good chance but had his shot well blocked by the Keeper.
If Tyrone beat Dublin I would think they would beat Donegal well. Playing Tyrone in Croke Park in an All-Ireland semi is a complely different game and one Donegal would not be fit for.
Quote from: JHume on August 03, 2011, 10:45:55 AM
Donegal converted two goal chances against Tyrone, a team that didn't create a single goal chance against them.
That hardly constitutes a lucky break - both goals were particularly well taken and we've seen several teams fail to goal in similar situations in the weeks since.
In saying that, I'd prefer to play Dublin than Tyrone in the semi-final. Having beat them twice this year already, Tyrone will be forewarned about Donegal.
If the Dubs beat the 3-time All-IReland champions and are looking to a dream final against Kerry, the hype will lull them into a false sense of complacency.
They were well taken but were also against the run of play.
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Whilst I would like Donegal to win, I dont think they will go all the way. I think they'll come unstuck when a team (Tyrone/Dublin) goes 5 or 6 points ahead and Donegal are forced to open up and attack leaving gaps at the back which the likes of Tyrone in particular would punish and pick them off on the break.
Tyrone led by 5 in the Ulster semi final, and Donegal reeled them in.
They are currently playing a bit like Meath in the 90s - they refuse to accept they're beaten.
Reeled them in? Donegal got a lucky break towards the end of the game which gave them a win in a game which they were second best. I honestly can't see it happening again if the two sides meet.
Donegal were easily the better team in the second half. Tyrone were far better in the first. We'll see all right if we meet again, but I can't see Donegal starting so nervously again the next day. That said, I'm perfectly fine with us being written off. We were underdogs according to many here and in the press in all three of our most recent games.
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Donegal converted two goal chances against Tyrone, a team that didn't create a single goal chance against them.
That hardly constitutes a lucky break - both goals were particularly well taken and we've seen several teams fail to goal in similar situations in the weeks since.
In saying that, I'd prefer to play Dublin than Tyrone in the semi-final. Having beat them twice this year already, Tyrone will be forewarned about Donegal.
If the Dubs beat the 3-time All-IReland champions and are looking to a dream final against Kerry, the hype will lull them into a false sense of complacency.
They were well taken but were also against the run of play.
Both goals came from breaks, but you could say that about numerous Tyrone scores over the years. Packed defense and fast breaking were the hallmarks of Tyrone and Armagh in the last decade. We were the better team in the second half anyway, but I'll concede, for the sake of argument (I don't have stats at hand), that Tyrone may have had more possession (which they generally turned over).
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Why do you's hate it? I think the intensity they bring to a game is unreal. You savour every score that we bit extra. I can say hands down that that Donegal/Kildare game was one of the best I'll ever witness in flesh.
Are you serious? 5-3 at half time. Have you been to many matches?
Yeah, the rest of the game is irrelevant.
Fair enough J70 the rest of the game was of a much better standard than the first half but the first half counted for over 30% of the game time. It was one of the worst halfs ever played in croke park.
Do you not agree that
''that Donegal/Kildare game was one of the best I'll ever witness in flesh.''
is a bit crazy?
It was exciting yes but football standard was average to poor.
But excitement and suspense and drama are huge factors in memorable sporting occasions. And the defending by both sides was superb, as was the midfield display of the Kildare no. 9 and various other players like Lacey, McGee, McHugh, McGrillen, Foley etc. The forwards had a tough day out, partly due as well to the compromised fitness of Murphy and Doyle, but still produced some fine moments and scores. But yes, attack-fest it was not, absolutely. And I have to be honest, I would have turned it off at half-time had I not been a frustrated supporter of Donegal! Second half and, especially, extra time were just amazing though!!
How many classic games have there been though, according to your standard?
I remember a Kerry-Galway game about ten years ago that everyone at the time was raving about. To be honest (and I said so here at the time), I didn't see much to be excited about. Lots of nice scores and pretty football, yes. However, there wasn't a hand being laid on the forwards and hardly a tackle in the match. It just lacked the intensity and suspense of Saturday night's game. Even Donegal's 1992 final win over Dublin... we played a lot of stunning football that day, but apart from a brief rally by Dublin towards the end, we always had them at arm's length and I'm sure it lacked a bit of intensity for the neutral (I was on the edge of my seat waiting for the Dublin response, but that was as someone invested in the outcome).
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Whilst I would like Donegal to win, I dont think they will go all the way. I think they'll come unstuck when a team (Tyrone/Dublin) goes 5 or 6 points ahead and Donegal are forced to open up and attack leaving gaps at the back which the likes of Tyrone in particular would punish and pick them off on the break.
Tyrone led by 5 in the Ulster semi final, and Donegal reeled them in.
They are currently playing a bit like Meath in the 90s - they refuse to accept they're beaten.
Reeled them in? Donegal got a lucky break towards the end of the game which gave them a win in a game which they were second best. I honestly can't see it happening again if the two sides meet.
Donegal were easily the better team in the second half. Tyrone were far better in the first. We'll see all right if we meet again, but I can't see Donegal starting so nervously again the next day. That said, I'm perfectly fine with us being written off. We were underdogs according to many here and in the press in all three of our most recent games.
What press were you reading? Every paper in the country had Donegal as favourites for the Ulster final. I didn't see a single one that tipped Derry.
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Whilst I would like Donegal to win, I dont think they will go all the way. I think they'll come unstuck when a team (Tyrone/Dublin) goes 5 or 6 points ahead and Donegal are forced to open up and attack leaving gaps at the back which the likes of Tyrone in particular would punish and pick them off on the break.
Tyrone led by 5 in the Ulster semi final, and Donegal reeled them in.
They are currently playing a bit like Meath in the 90s - they refuse to accept they're beaten.
Reeled them in? Donegal got a lucky break towards the end of the game which gave them a win in a game which they were second best. I honestly can't see it happening again if the two sides meet.
Donegal were easily the better team in the second half. Tyrone were far better in the first. We'll see all right if we meet again, but I can't see Donegal starting so nervously again the next day. That said, I'm perfectly fine with us being written off. We were underdogs according to many here and in the press in all three of our most recent games.
What press were you reading? Every paper in the country had Donegal as favourites for the Ulster final. I didn't see a single one that tipped Derry.
Yes, you're probably right about the press for that particular game.
See this "woe-betide, we're so put-upon, no one thinks we can beat other teams" rubbish that's spewing as a result of the weekend's game, it would really turn you off Donegal (supporters).
I think Tyrone threw the Ulster semi anyway :P
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Donegal converted two goal chances against Tyrone, a team that didn't create a single goal chance against them.That hardly constitutes a lucky break - both goals were particularly well taken and we've seen several teams fail to goal in similar situations in the weeks since.
In saying that, I'd prefer to play Dublin than Tyrone in the semi-final. Having beat them twice this year already, Tyrone will be forewarned about Donegal.
If the Dubs beat the 3-time All-IReland champions and are looking to a dream final against Kerry, the hype will lull them into a false sense of complacency.
I might be wrong but I thought O'Niell was in on goal once with a good chance but had his shot well blocked by the Keeper.
If Tyrone beat Dublin I would think they would beat Donegal well. Playing Tyrone in Croke Park in an All-Ireland semi is a complely different game and one Donegal would not be fit for.
I agree that Tyrone in Croke Park would be a different animal than the one faced in Clones. (They have the form: is it once or twice that they've lost to Armagh in Ulster but won in Croker?).
It would be a fascinating game, and while Tyrone might win, they won't win it 'well'. No one will win 'well' against Donegal.
Quote from: EC Unique on August 03, 2011, 09:20:14 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 03, 2011, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on August 02, 2011, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 02, 2011, 11:40:48 PM
Why do you's hate it? I think the intensity they bring to a game is unreal. You savour every score that we bit extra. I can say hands down that that Donegal/Kildare game was one of the best I'll ever witness in flesh.
Are you serious? 5-3 at half time. Have you been to many matches?
Yeah, the rest of the game is irrelevant.
Fair enough J70 the rest of the game was of a much better standard than the first half but the first half counted for over 30% of the game time. It was one of the worst halfs ever played in croke park.
Do you not agree that
''that Donegal/Kildare game was one of the best I'll ever witness in flesh.''
is a bit crazy?
It was exciting yes but football standard was average to poor.
Hardly crazy, just an opinion ffs. The atmosphere in CP was dead until Donegal/Kildare game. Add that in with the intensity and pressure on every pass, shot etc. Again add in the manner in which it was lost by Kildare and won by Donegal. Essentially the last kick of the game, outside of the boot having just missed a similar shot. The place went mad.
And you previously question the amount of games i go to - well I'll tell ye this, I've been to enough club games in Tyrone to know not to ever again waste £ and diesel watching shite that is essentially wrestling with a ball thrown in!
i reckon dublin or tyrone will win with ease in the semi.what will happen when donegal have to really chase the game,they will leave open spaces then at the back and left exposed.it,s ok playing that way when the game is tight
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on August 03, 2011, 04:44:47 PM
i reckon dublin or tyrone will win with ease in the semi.what will happen when donegal have to really chase the game,they will leave open spaces then at the back and left exposed.it,s ok playing that way when the game is tight
But they did that against Tyrone in the Ulster semi - they were well down in the first half and came back. Luck or not, they still did it.
Great commentary from Radio Ulster of the last 2 Donegal points -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/the_championship/14374310.stm
Think Tyrone will beat Dublin and then Donegal . . . they don't have enough natural footballers to win an All Ireland in my opinion and it's in Tyrone's hands whether they want to do it all again. I think they want it and we will see how much over the next few weekends!
Quote from: ONeill on August 03, 2011, 11:48:26 PM
Great commentary from Radio Ulster of the last 2 Donegal points -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/the_championship/14374310.stm
:D Would love to hear the Highland coverage!! :P
Quote from: Rois on August 03, 2011, 01:43:04 PM
See this "woe-betide, we're so put-upon, no one thinks we can beat other teams" rubbish that's spewing as a result of the weekend's game, it would really turn you off Donegal (supporters).
I think Tyrone threw the Ulster semi anyway :P
I don't see any of the Donegal posters on here reacting like that Rois!
I think the point that everyone is writing us off and belittling our achievements this year has been highlighted by Donegal posters but thats all. In fact theres a few (including myself) who are revelling in the underdog status - suits us rightly! ;D
Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2011, 03:24:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 03, 2011, 11:48:26 PM
Great commentary from Radio Ulster of the last 2 Donegal points -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/the_championship/14374310.stm
:D Would love to hear the Highland coverage!! :P
Second period of extra time in full :)
http://www.highlandradio.com/sport/