So into the 1/4ers are:
Cork
Kildare
Limerick
Tyrone/Roscommon
Dublin
Kerry
Mayo
Donegal
Is there any restriction on who can play who?
If I could pick the match ups I'd love to see:
Tyrone Vs Kerry
Limerick Vs Mayo
Cork Vs Donegal
Kildare Vs Dublin
Or
Roscommon Vs Dublin
Limerick Vs Mayo
Cork Vs Kerry
Kildare Vs Donegal
Cork v Kerry cannot be - no repeats of provincial finals. Rossies can't meet Mayo at QF so Rossie/Tyrone will be a special case as well.
Rossies watching this draw tomorrow will be like watching a episode of Bullseye "here's what you could have won"
What happens if Roscommon/Tyrone are drawn against Mayo? Obviously Rocommon cant play Mayo as they met in Connaught Final but if Tyrone beat Roscommon this wouldnt be a problem and would be able to play Mayo in quarters. The way I see it, a fair draw cant be made until after Roscommon and Tyrone match
Quote from: adevvabr on July 23, 2011, 09:52:18 PM
What happens if Roscommon/Tyrone are drawn against Mayo? Obviously Rocommon cant play Mayo as they met in Connaught Final but if Tyrone beat Roscommon this wouldnt be a problem and would be able to play Mayo in quarters. The way I see it, a fair draw cant be made until after Roscommon and Tyrone match
It'll then be the next one out of the hat that gets to play Mayo then. And if let's say Dublin are due to play the next team out of the bowl/hat (take your pick) then they face Roscommon/Tyrone.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 23, 2011, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: adevvabr on July 23, 2011, 09:52:18 PM
What happens if Roscommon/Tyrone are drawn against Mayo? Obviously Rocommon cant play Mayo as they met in Connaught Final but if Tyrone beat Roscommon this wouldnt be a problem and would be able to play Mayo in quarters. The way I see it, a fair draw cant be made until after Roscommon and Tyrone match
It'll then be the next one out of the hat that gets to play Mayo then. And if let's say Dublin are due to play the next team out of the bowl/hat (take your pick) then they face Roscommon/Tyrone.
Surely thats not fair on Tyrone. No offence to Mayo but Tyrone would probably be hoping to get them in the quarters instead of having to play Dublin, Donegal or Kerry.
Yes, sure everyone would just LOVE a crack at Mayo and beat us by ten or twenty points at least. :'(
When is the draw?
this evening after the hurling on rte
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 24, 2011, 07:29:29 AM
Yes, sure everyone would just LOVE a crack at Mayo and beat us by ten or twenty points at least. :'(
Mayo would prefer in this order:
Tyrone - we will be serious underdogs, we play well against them (even playing crap in 2008 we should have won)
Kildare - we will be serious underdogs, they are a well oiled machine but we seem to do well against teams playing systems rather than open football (Kerry, Galway),
Limerick - we will possibly be favourites which we don't do well.
Cork - No thanks boy.
We can't get Tyrone so I'm hoping for Kildare. Big big test for us but I think we could cause a surprise there. Limerick would be a banana skin that we seem to thrive on falling over. Our only way of beating that Cork team would be to put their watches all back an hour and try to hold out for the last ten minutes when they show up.
Quote from: muppet on July 24, 2011, 11:57:15 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 24, 2011, 07:29:29 AM
Yes, sure everyone would just LOVE a crack at Mayo and beat us by ten or twenty points at least. :'(
Mayo would prefer in this order:
Tyrone - we will be serious underdogs, we play well against them (even playing crap in 2008 we should have won)
Kildare - we will be serious underdogs, they are a well oiled machine but we seem to do well against teams playing systems rather than open football (Kerry, Galway),
Limerick - we will possibly be favourites which we don't do well.
Cork - No thanks boy.
We can't get Tyrone so I'm hoping for Kildare. Big big test for us but I think we can could cause a surprise there. Limerick would be a banana skin that we seem to thrive on falling over. Our only way of beating that Cork team would be to put their watches all back an hour and try to hold out for the last ten minutes when they show up.
Couldn't agree more.
Interesting no team who was in the first round of qualifiers made it through to the quarters, Down came closest.
Would like to see the following draw:
Kerry v Tyrone/Roscommon
Mayo v Cork
Donegal v Kildare
Dublin v Limerick
with Kildare going on to win Sam by taking revenge on the Dubs in the semi and Tyrone in the final.
Having a feeling of
Kerry vs Tyrone/Rossies
Donegal vs Kildare
Mayo vs Limerick
Dublin vs Cork
its bloody fixed anyways isnt it .................................... :o
What happens if Dublin draw Kildare
Kerry draw cork.
donegal limerick is out next so cork play donegal and kerry v limerick.
Leaving Tyrone/Roscommon v Mayo which isn't allowed to happen?? ???
Mayo will probably end up getting Cork. Cue nobody travelling to that game so there could be a triple-header! I don't know, but I'd agree with what muppet says. It would be a measure of how far we have come if we are drawn against Kildare.
From a tyrone view I would quite like another crack at donegal. Mickey rarely gets beat by a system twice so I think w would take them in the quarters.
This is all dependant on getting past the ros game if course
For Donegal's sake i hope they don't get Tyrone in QFS, we where in that situation in 2001 & the chances of Donegal beating Tyrone twice in one year is limited.
Quote from: ross4life on July 24, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
For Donegal's sake i hope they don't get Tyrone in QFS, we where in that situation in 2001 & the chances of Donegal beating Tyrone twice in one year is limited.
We'll see. We've been written off by many on this board this year, especially prior to the Tyrone and Derry games. We're unlikely to start as nervously against Tyrone if we meet them again. I don't why we couldn't beat a second time. Obviously it would be a formidable challenge.
Don't think it matters who we get we are gonna be written off but people will soon learn to give us the respect we deserve why does everyone think yet couldn't beat tyrone again we have beat them twice already this year
Quote from: donegal lad on July 24, 2011, 06:25:35 PM
Don't think it matters who we get we are gonna be written off but people will soon learn to give us the respect we deserve why does everyone think yet couldn't beat tyrone again we have beat them twice already this year
When do you think that will happen ?
Do you think you're not getting the respect you deserve even after winning the Ulster championship ?.
Quote from: orangeman on July 24, 2011, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: donegal lad on July 24, 2011, 06:25:35 PM
Don't think it matters who we get we are gonna be written off but people will soon learn to give us the respect we deserve why does everyone think yet couldn't beat tyrone again we have beat them twice already this year
When do you think that will happen ?
Do you think you're not getting the respect you deserve even after winning the Ulster championship ?.
I think there is still people out their not giving us the respect we deserve calling the system we play puke football and not giving us much of a change in the 1/4s
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 24, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Mayo will probably end up getting Cork. Cue nobody travelling to that game so there could be a triple-header! I don't know, but I'd agree with what muppet says. It would be a measure of how far we have come if we are drawn against Kildare.
The nightmare draw for the GAA would be
Mayo V Cork
Kerry V Limerick
It would be a triple header with Tyrone V Roscommon next Saturday.
You would still only get 20k, as Cork and Kerry would not travel.
The GAA would need to put an an boxing exhibition between the RTE commentator's in the middle of Croke park between every game.
Quote from: donegal lad on July 24, 2011, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 24, 2011, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: donegal lad on July 24, 2011, 06:25:35 PM
Don't think it matters who we get we are gonna be written off but people will soon learn to give us the respect we deserve why does everyone think yet couldn't beat tyrone again we have beat them twice already this year
When do you think that will happen ?
Do you think you're not getting the respect you deserve even after winning the Ulster championship ?.
I think there is still people out their not giving us the respect we deserve calling the system we play puke football and not giving us much of a change in the 1/4s
That's ridiculous considering the draw hasn't even been made yet. You're Ulster champs and deservedly so. Tyrone would want another crack at you if they beat Roscommon.
cork v mayo
Quote from: joemamas on July 24, 2011, 06:38:00 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 24, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Mayo will probably end up getting Cork. Cue nobody travelling to that game so there could be a triple-header! I don't know, but I'd agree with what muppet says. It would be a measure of how far we have come if we are drawn against Kildare.
The nightmare draw for the GAA would be
Mayo V Cork
Kerry V Limerick
It would be a triple header with Tyrone V Roscommon next Saturday.
You would still only get 20k, as Cork and Kerry would not travel.
The GAA would need to put an an boxing exhibition between the RTE commentator's in the middle of Croke park between every game.
Nightmare confirmed!
Quote from: joemamas on July 24, 2011, 06:38:00 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 24, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Mayo will probably end up getting Cork. Cue nobody travelling to that game so there could be a triple-header! I don't know, but I'd agree with what muppet says. It would be a measure of how far we have come if we are drawn against Kildare.
The nightmare draw for the GAA would be
Mayo V Cork
Kerry V Limerick
It would be a triple header with Tyrone V Roscommon next Saturday.
You would still only get 20k, as Cork and Kerry would not travel.
The GAA would need to put an an boxing exhibition between the RTE commentator's in the middle of Croke park between every game.
what a shite draw, gaa are probably really pissed off.
The gaa will definitely not be happy with this at all especially if Roscommon beat Tyrone.
I think Tyrone will get revenge v Dublin & another year no Connacht team in the Semi finals?
Strange the way Marty went to the caption half-way through the draw. By that stage Tyrone/Roscommon were going to get Dublin regardless.
Cork and Kerry to win easily. Kildare to figure out a way past Donegal's parked bus. Tyrone to swat away Roscommon, then edge past a rusty Dublin team that would've beat them all things being equal.
Cork - Kildare final.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 24, 2011, 07:04:25 PM
Strange the way Marty went to the caption half-way through the draw. By that stage Tyrone/Roscommon were going to get Dublin regardless.
Aye but he was just checking ! ;)
Cooney could be heard saying " ah for feck's sake Marty, can we start again please ?" ;D
Kerry V Limerick Kerry by 10-12 pts
Cork V Mayo Cork by 8-10 pts
Donegal V Kildare toss up
Tyrone V Roscommon Tyrone by 8-10 pts
Dublin V Tyrone Dublin slight favourites.
Prozac being passed around Mayo (and central council or whoever collects gate receipts in Croke Park) this evening.
Quote from: joemamas on July 24, 2011, 07:08:22 PM
Kerry V Limerick Kerry by 10-12 pts
Cork V Mayo Cork by 8-10 pts
Donegal V Kildare toss up
Tyrone V Roscommon Tyrone by 8-10 pts
Dublin V Tyrone Dublin slight favourites.
Prozac being passed around Mayo (and central council or whoever collects gate receipts in Croke Park) this evening.
:D
i assume tyrone v rosocmmon would have to be played next weekend before any of the 1/4 finals? would be strange having a 1/4 final played first.
Quote from: clarshack on July 24, 2011, 07:45:09 PM
i assume tyrone v rosocmmon would have to be played next weekend before any of the 1/4 finals? would be strange having a 1/4 final played first.
Wouldn't make to much of a difference tbh i could see them playing that game on the Sunday as a curtain raiser to donegal vs kildare
What would have happened, I wonder, if Mayo and Tyrone/Roscommon were the last two left in the pots?
It very nearly happened.
Quote from: donegal lad on July 24, 2011, 07:55:24 PM
Quote from: clarshack on July 24, 2011, 07:45:09 PM
i assume tyrone v rosocmmon would have to be played next weekend before any of the 1/4 finals? would be strange having a 1/4 final played first.
Wouldn't make to much of a difference tbh i could see them playing that game on the Sunday as a curtain raiser to donegal vs kildare
Doubt if that will be the case unless they throw in Cork and Mayo for good measure.
Cannot see GAA having a Cork V Mayo Kerry V Limerick double header, as there would be a very poor attendence at it. The GAA are in a bit of a quandry to be honest.
They may have to go with Tyrone V Ros , Cork V Mayo and a Minor game thrown in for good measure on Saturday with the same deal for Sunday.
Quote from: Gaffer on July 24, 2011, 08:03:07 PM
What would have happened, I wonder, if Mayo and Tyrone/Roscommon were the last two left in the pots?
It very nearly happened.
Thought about that, that is why the latter part of the draw could not have been live. They would have had to do it over.
Quote from: Gaffer on July 24, 2011, 08:03:07 PM
What would have happened, I wonder, if Mayo and Tyrone/Roscommon were the last two left in the pots?
It very nearly happened.
is there not a 15 min delay on these things?, therefore if it happened it would be redone and we would be none the wiser.
Not a great draw for us to be honest.
We will be expected to (and should) win with a bit to spare.
Then we will probably face Cork with no idea of where our form is at.
The general sense down here is that we wanted Kildare.
Not many will travel to Croker for this one.
Horror draw from Limerick too I'd imagine.
Kerry could play Munster opposition all the way to the final.
The dream final of Mayo v Roscommon is still possible though ;).
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 24, 2011, 08:25:53 PM
Kerry could play Munster opposition all the way to the final.
The dream final of Mayo v Roscommon is still possible though ;).
Enda Kenny would have to show up then... ;)
Contrary to some views posted already, this must be the best draw from our point of view. Cork will be unbackable, we will have nothing to lose. We shouldn't fear Cork, having beaten them twice in the past three competitive meetings. Horan has this team scrapping for every ball and that mentality can carry any team further than they are entitled. We may not beat Cork but we might give them a fright that they won't have bargained for.
Having been keeping tabs on this to see how the odds would change with the draw.
Yesterday odds
Kerry 2/1
Cork 5/2
Dublin 7/2
Kildare 7/1
Tyrone 9/1
Donegal 12/1
Mayo 22/1
Limerick 50/1
Roscommon 80/1
Todays odds
Kerry 15/8
Cork 9/4
Dublin 7/2
Kildare 8/1
Tyrone 11/1
Donegal 16/1
Mayo 33/1
Limerick 80/1
Roscommon 125/1
IMO Tyrone are the best value bet.
It'll be Kerry v Limerick & Donegal v Kildare one day and Cork v Mayo & Tyrone v Roscommon
kildare and donegal offer handsome odds
Id say kerry are bloody delighted with themselves........................
Hope the rossies kick lumps outta tyrone for many reasons, namely ricey, gormley, diver jordan and puppet head..................... maybe even win ;)
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 24, 2011, 09:13:33 PM
kildare and donegal offer handsome odds
Id say kerry are bloody delighted with themselves........................
Hope the rossies kick lumps outta tyrone for many reasons, namely ricey, gormley, diver jordan and puppet head..................... maybe even win ;)
Main one being you are shit scared of Tyrone ;)
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 24, 2011, 09:13:33 PM
kildare and donegal offer handsome odds
Id say kerry are bloody delighted with themselves........................
Hope the rossies kick lumps outta tyrone for many reasons, namely ricey, gormley, diver jordan and puppet head..................... maybe even win ;)
Tyrone will eat Roscommon alive!! 10 points +
Maybe it's been mentioned elsewhere but Kerry could reach the AIF by beating just two times!!
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 25, 2011, 12:30:31 AM
Maybe it's been mentioned elsewhere but Kerry could reach the AIF by beating just two times!!
They beat Tipp as well.
are the croke park lineups likely to be this:
sat:
tyrone v roscommon (2.00)
donegal v kildare (4.00)
sun:
kerry v limerick (2.00)
mayo v cork (4.00)
Quote from: clarshack on July 25, 2011, 10:06:06 AM
are the croke park lineups likely to be this:
sat:
tyrone v roscommon (2.00)
donegal v kildare (4.00)
sun:
kerry v limerick (2.00)
mayo v cork (4.00)
I would be very surprised if any game was on at 2 oclock on the saturday both games will have evening throw ins i was thinking more along the lines of donegal vkildare being played on the sunday so for them to bring the biggest crowds
I'd prefer a Sat game, frees up the rest of the long weekend, its a pain in the hole having to play quarter finals every August bank holiday anyway, but yerra its a good complaint to have I suppose :P
Is there a huge 3 hour meeting going on determining these fixtures. What more important things do they have to sort out today than provide information for over 100 000 people to organise themselves to attend games next weekend. Why cant anything happen quickly in the GAA? They could have been annouunced on the Sunday game last night.
Quote from: donegal lad on July 25, 2011, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: clarshack on July 25, 2011, 10:06:06 AM
are the croke park lineups likely to be this:
sat:
tyrone v roscommon (2.00)
donegal v kildare (4.00)
sun:
kerry v limerick (2.00)
mayo v cork (4.00)
I would be very surprised if any game was on at 2 oclock on the saturday both games will have evening throw ins i was thinking more along the lines of donegal vkildare being played on the sunday so for them to bring the biggest crowds
throw-in for down v kerry was 2.00pm on the same saturday last year.
Coming from people on twitter donegal vs kildare is on 6 oclock on saturday evening
Quote from: snippets on July 25, 2011, 12:31:51 PM
Is there a huge 3 hour meeting going on determining these fixtures. What more important things do they have to sort out today than provide information for over 100 000 people to organise themselves to attend games next weekend. Why cant anything happen quickly in the GAA? They could have been annouunced on the Sunday game last night.
Every decision has to be made by a committee of men from all corners of ireland who value their
expenses conribution to the GAA.
In fairness I assume maybe the Garda and a few other bodies may have to be consulted and rubber stamp the final call. But maybe most of this can be done in advance.
Or the draw could have been done on Saturday evening to give the teams an extra day to prepare.
i see on twitter that it seems to be saturday @ 6pm donegal v kildare, sunday @ 2pm kerry v limerck and mayo v cork @4pm
No word of tyrone v rossies?
Quote from: under the bar on July 25, 2011, 01:32:09 PM
No word of tyrone v rossies?
4pm on Saturday as the warm up for the main event! ;)
Quote from: donegal lad on July 25, 2011, 12:55:07 PM
Coming from people on twitter donegal vs kildare is on 6 oclock on saturday evening
Semi reliable sources talking about Minors v Armagh at 2, Seniors v Tyrone at 4 and Kildare/Donegal at 6 next Saturday
I suppose the thinking is that to get anyone from Cork or Kerry to turn up they have to have them on Sunday :)
Semi reliable?? What does that mean? Makes sense to have all ulster teams on one day I suppose
There are 2 Connacht teams too you know
Quote from: Rossfan on July 25, 2011, 01:48:49 PM
There are 2 Connacht teams too you know
Only for show though....
Yes ross I know but 3 ulster and my point was around having those 3 games on one ticket
Croke Park is set to host two double headers this weekend with three All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals and a Round 4 Qualifier down for decision.
First up on Saturday is the delayed Qualifier between Roscommon and Tyrone with a 4pm throw in, while Donegal and Kildare go head to head at 6pm.
On Sunday, Kerry v Limerick gets proceedings underway at 2pm with All-Ireland champions Cork playing Mayo at 4pm.
All three quarter-finals will be shown live with TV3 covering Kildare v Donegal. There is no television coverage of the Tyrone v Roscommon Qualifier.
Quote from: under the bar on July 25, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Yes ross I know but 3 ulster and my point was around having those 3 games on one ticket
If you are counting Armagh Minors as the 3rd Ulster team then there are 3 Connacht teams involved too ;)
Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 25, 2011, 01:55:29 PM
Croke Park is set to host two double headers this weekend with three All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals and a Round 4 Qualifier down for decision.
First up on Saturday is the delayed Qualifier between Roscommon and Tyrone with a 4pm throw in, while Donegal and Kildare go head to head at 6pm.
On Sunday, Kerry v Limerick gets proceedings underway at 2pm with All-Ireland champions Cork playing Mayo at 4pm.
All three quarter-finals will be shown live with TV3 covering Kildare v Donegal. There is no television coverage of the Tyrone v Roscommon Qualifier.
Ah FFS! Won't the cameras be in there anyway, why can't they show it?
Common sense finally from the GAA to fixed both our Minor,Senior games in Croke park
Quote from: Tubberman on July 25, 2011, 02:06:24 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 25, 2011, 01:55:29 PM
Croke Park is set to host two double headers this weekend with three All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals and a Round 4 Qualifier down for decision.
First up on Saturday is the delayed Qualifier between Roscommon and Tyrone with a 4pm throw in, while Donegal and Kildare go head to head at 6pm.
On Sunday, Kerry v Limerick gets proceedings underway at 2pm with All-Ireland champions Cork playing Mayo at 4pm.
All three quarter-finals will be shown live with TV3 covering Kildare v Donegal. There is no television coverage of the Tyrone v Roscommon Qualifier.
Ah FFS! Won't the cameras be in there anyway, why can't they show it?
GAA not allowing as many live games as last year.