Sidey seems like a likeable guy, and he obviously loves his GAA.
But he's possibly the worst commentator I've ever heard in any sport.
His twee, cringe-laden style does nothing for the BBC nor for the sport. It's like listening to your grandparents talking about sex.
Sort it out BBC, put him in another job or none at all, but keep that mic out of his hands.
"And it's Mackin, he's crackin"
Quote from: ONeill on May 28, 2011, 10:40:32 PM
"And it's Mackin, he's crackin"
f**k he didnt say that did he ***cringe***
Might have been "cracklin" but same sentiments. Even the wife near puked.
Listening to Marty now on RTEs delayed coverage. >:(
I say we throw him and Mark Sidebottom into a pit armed with rusty meathooks and let them go at it.
The winner gets to stay in the pit till the championship is over.
All GAA commentators are crap when you compare them to other sports. I always find the aussie commentators to be good, they make the game sound exciting even when it's not.
Quote from: Take Your Points on May 28, 2011, 11:01:25 PM
:-X
You're excluded from this discussion.
Mark is from the home place, is a very nice fella and I know the family well growing up near them. He had a tough start in the commentsry box as plenty of people, including people here, assumed he was a prod. Which he isn't and he loves the game. I just wish he would keep it simple. Football and hurling fairly shift so if he stuck to what was happening in front of him he'd be fine. The inane asides make him sound like a dick and add no value.
Mark Sidebottom tries a bit too hard to be funny/smart when there is enough going on in the game to talk about.
At one stage the camera focused on a baby and he started talking about the hat on the baby. Canavan told him to stick to the football.
Canavan is very good on the commentary. No cliches and good analysis of small details during passages of play, which is no less than you would expect considering the player he was.
Quote from: Orangemac on May 29, 2011, 12:00:27 AM
Mark Sidebottom tries a bit too hard to be funny/smart when there is enough going on in the game to talk about.
At one stage the camera focused on a baby and he started talking about the hat on the baby. Canavan told him to stick to the football.
Canavan is very good on the commentary. No cliches and good analysis of small details during passages of play, which is no less than you would expect considering the player he was.
As I said on the match thread you'd think Canavan was the key commentator. He keeps it simple and concentrates on the match in front of him. The match is enterntainment enough without "hilarious" quips by the commentator(s).
Sidebottom is a lovely guy - same as most GAA commentators.
Once in a lifetime along comes Micheal - O'Hehir or O'Muircheartaigh.
The rest are sh**t beyond belief.
Sad but true.
Quote from: Orangemac on May 29, 2011, 12:00:27 AM
Mark Sidebottom tries a bit too hard to be funny/smart when there is enough going on in the game to talk about.
At one stage the camera focused on a baby and he started talking about the hat on the baby. Canavan told him to stick to the football.
Canavan is very good on the commentary. No cliches and good analysis of small details during passages of play, which is no less than you would expect considering the player he was.
Heard ye mention Mark before but watched it tonight not knowing anything about him. Oh my God lads he's cat. At least Marty Morrissey keeps up with the play. At one point Sidebottom was in the middle of telling a story which he continued as Armagh bore down on goal and he wouldnt drop it even as it looked as if there was going to be a goal. Canavan worked a tough shift with him tonight and the incident with the baby sounded like PTG had finally lost his patience with Sidebottom.
Quote from: JimStynes on May 28, 2011, 11:21:43 PM
All GAA commentators are crap when you compare them to other sports. I always find the aussie commentators to be good, they make the game sound exciting even when it's not.
God no, they are the worst of the worst.
I don't even watch the AFL highlights on TG4 anymore because of them.
They're like the lads that commentate on professional wrestling.
Wrestling: "Oh my God, HE JUST HIT HIM WITH A STEEL CHAIR!"
Aussie Rules: "Oh my God, HE JUST SWUNG HIS BOOT AT IT ON THE GROUND AND IT BOUNCED IN SEVERAL RANDOM DIRECTIONS BEFORE TRICKLING OVER THE LINE!"
Quote from: Jinxy on May 29, 2011, 12:59:43 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 28, 2011, 11:21:43 PM
All GAA commentators are crap when you compare them to other sports. I always find the aussie commentators to be good, they make the game sound exciting even when it's not.
God no, they are the worst of the worst.
I don't even watch the AFL highlights on TG4 anymore because of them.
They're like the lads that commentate on professional wrestling.
Wrestling: "Oh my God, HE JUST HIT HIM WITH A STEEL CHAIR!"
Aussie Rules: "Oh my God, HE JUST SWUNG HIS BOOT AT IT ON THE GROUND AND IT BOUNCED IN SEVERAL RANDOM DIRECTIONS BEFORE TRICKLING OVER THE LINE!"
Just my opinion. They do make the game sound exciting, aussie rules and rugby league. Anything would be better than that shite on BBC and RTE. I find Sidebottom that bad that it is quite funny now. Your man on RTE is the worst commentator I've ever heard.
Leave him alone, I love it. If you dont like then dont watch! Hes passionate and loves the sport and is actually quite knowledgable. Yes his quotes can be cringey, but if you look at the bright side of it, he can be a good laugh.
QuoteLeave him alone, I love it. If you dont like then dont watch! Hes passionate and loves the sport and is actually quite knowledgable. Yes his quotes can be cringey, but if you look at the bright side of it, he can be a good laugh.
No problem Mark, no personal offence intended
Quote from: RandyDupree on May 29, 2011, 02:08:34 AM
Leave him alone, I love it. If you dont like then dont watch! Hes passionate and loves the sport and is actually quite knowledgable. Yes his quotes can be cringey, but if you look at the bright side of it, he can be a good laugh.
Don't know about you but it is the f*igging
match I want to watch. My issue is with the woeful standard of GAA commentators to the extent that, yes, I do eventually turn of the sound.
Bundle o' bitchin weemen
Quote from: RandyDupree on May 29, 2011, 02:08:34 AM
Leave him alone, I love it. If you dont like then dont watch! Hes passionate and loves the sport and is actually quite knowledgable. Yes his quotes can be cringey, but if you look at the bright side of it, he can be a good laugh.
I've never laughed at any of his silly lines. Find myself tutting and shaking my head and wanting to turn over. He tries too hard to be funny. Just keep up with the play ya dick!
You would wonder why amyone who raises their head up above for the gaa in the north bothers. Jealousy and pettiness amongst our own
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 28, 2011, 11:34:31 PM
He had a tough start in the commentsry box as plenty of people, including people here, assumed he was a prod.
wtf?
Canavan was top class in the commentary box last night. Sidebottom is annoying, but I forgive him a lot for his obvious passion and love of the thing. The cringes he induces are somehow less twee than Brian Carthy, less eye-goggling "did he really say that?" than Morrissey and less infuriatingly "this bastard gets paid for knowing nothing and being wrong all the time" than Carney.
Sidebottom should be replaced by Jerome quinn!
some people are getting carried away here. he isnt that bad, certainly not as bad as some are suggeating. some people go out of their way to get annoyed!
I don't mind him at all. Some of the things he comes out with are so ridiculous, they're entertaining at this stage.
Listen to Newstalks coverage of the hurling today.
Commentators that don't act like rubes and analysts that actually analyse the game.
It is possible you know.
He obviously reads this and knows what people think of him but persists with his 'jokes' nonetheless. He seems to enjoy it "i christened him the big easy a number of years ago"
He's not the best but he does his best --Canavan doesnt engage with him at all i'd say the relationship couldnt be good off camera a a result!
He's a melter but can he's so ridiculous he's funny
Compared to RTE now though its ridiciculous when you think about it
Watching the hurling with the sound off and Newstalk on in the background.
Very enjoyable.
Murph is loving the sideline reporter job!
Especially when there's a big mill-up in front of him. :D
I know the lad tries and he does have enthusiasm for the game there's no doubting that but he is not cut out for it simple as. He actually started seriously talking about the game going to Extra Time when there were 20 mins left!!
As he did not grow up around the GAA scene his knowledge of players and their backgrounds is extremely poor. I would guarantee that he knows nothing of Club Football or Sigerson football. Unfortunately he just does not have it and the BBC should do a serious trawl for someone who can commentate on a game... what harm could it do??
I reckon Sidebottom could do a bit on match build ups and pitchside reporting but he should not have the mic in front of him for 70 minutes at a time!!
I enjoy his wee yarns, esp the one about sitting beside Aaron Kernan at a do and him refusing to eat the potatoes and trimming the fat off the meat in the dinner so MS knew Armagh were serious this year.
Quote from: screenexile on May 29, 2011, 06:56:16 PM
I know the lad tries and he does have enthusiasm for the game there's no doubting that but he is not cut out for it simple as. He actually started seriously talking about the game going to Extra Time when there were 20 mins left!!
As he did not grow up around the GAA scene his knowledge of players and their backgrounds is extremely poor. I would guarantee that he knows nothing of Club Football or Sigerson football. Unfortunately he just does not have it and the BBC should do a serious trawl for someone who can commentate on a game... what harm could it do??
I reckon Sidebottom could do a bit on match build ups and pitchside reporting but he should not have the mic in front of him for 70 minutes at a time!!
"As he did not grow up around the GAA scene his knowledge of players and their backgrounds is extremely poor. I would guarantee that he knows nothing of Club Football or Sigerson football."
How do you know this? He was a hurler from the glens so how is this not from GAA stock??
He knows plenty about players, Sigerson and club games. He's just a sh*te commentator.
Quote from: screenexile on May 29, 2011, 06:56:16 PM
I know the lad tries and he does have enthusiasm for the game there's no doubting that but he is not cut out for it simple as. He actually started seriously talking about the game going to Extra Time when there were 20 mins left!!
As he did not grow up around the GAA scene his knowledge of players and their backgrounds is extremely poor. I would guarantee that he knows nothing of Club Football or Sigerson football. Unfortunately he just does not have it and the BBC should do a serious trawl for someone who can commentate on a game... what harm could it do??
I reckon Sidebottom could do a bit on match build ups and pitchside reporting but he should not have the mic in front of him for 70 minutes at a time!!
What are you on about? He played for our club for years and was a good hurler,he also played Fitzgibbon for Queens. I guarantee you he has contributed more to his club, even after retiring, than a lot of fellas on here. You might not like his commentating but unlike someone like Ger Canning, he
is genuinely interested and has a passion for Gaa. He is as decent as you would meet.
Quote from: maggie on May 29, 2011, 07:47:16 PM
I enjoy his wee yarns, esp the one about sitting beside Aaron Kernan at a do and him refusing to eat the potatoes and trimming the fat off the meat in the dinner so MS knew Armagh were serious this year.
:D
Quote from: Orangemac on May 29, 2011, 12:00:27 AM
Mark Sidebottom tries a bit too hard to be funny/smart when there is enough going on in the game to talk about.
At one stage the camera focused on a baby and he started talking about the hat on the baby. Canavan told him to stick to the football.
Canavan is very good on the commentary. No cliches and good analysis of small details during passages of play, which is no less than you would expect considering the player he was.
....................but extremely ungrammatical !
Quote from: screenexile on May 29, 2011, 06:56:16 PM
I know the lad tries and he does have enthusiasm for the game there's no doubting that but he is not cut out for it simple as. He actually started seriously talking about the game going to Extra Time when there were 20 mins left!!
As he did not grow up around the GAA scene his knowledge of players and their backgrounds is extremely poor. I would guarantee that he knows nothing of Club Football or Sigerson football. Unfortunately he just does not have it and the BBC should do a serious trawl for someone who can commentate on a game... what harm could it do??
I reckon Sidebottom could do a bit on match build ups and pitchside reporting but he should not have the mic in front of him for 70 minutes at a time!!
Red faces all round Screen. Good club hurler, played for QUB, cousin of many county players, brother would have been a good juvenile county player and played Fitzgibbon. Growing up in the Glens football knowledge is gonna be weak as we all see it as a far inferior game to hurling. Which it is. But the man knows GAA.
What he is good at is hosting those chat nights. A couple of years ago himself and Jerome co-hosted the Bredagh one in the Welly Park and he stole the show.
Quote from: ONeill on May 29, 2011, 11:04:28 PM
What he is good at is hosting those chat nights. A couple of years ago himself and Jerome co-hosted the Bredagh one in the Welly Park and he stole the show.
Burglary it is then. Any clues left behind? What's his alibi?
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 29, 2011, 10:46:37 PM
Quote from: screenexile on May 29, 2011, 06:56:16 PM
I know the lad tries and he does have enthusiasm for the game there's no doubting that but he is not cut out for it simple as. He actually started seriously talking about the game going to Extra Time when there were 20 mins left!!
As he did not grow up around the GAA scene his knowledge of players and their backgrounds is extremely poor. I would guarantee that he knows nothing of Club Football or Sigerson football. Unfortunately he just does not have it and the BBC should do a serious trawl for someone who can commentate on a game... what harm could it do??
I reckon Sidebottom could do a bit on match build ups and pitchside reporting but he should not have the mic in front of him for 70 minutes at a time!!
Red faces all round Screen. Good club hurler, played for QUB, cousin of many county players, brother would have been a good juvenile county player and played Fitzgibbon. Growing up in the Glens football knowledge is gonna be weak as we all see it as a far inferior game to hurling. Which it is. But the man knows GAA.
No red faces here! Where I said GAA scene I should have said football scene. He does not know enough about the players in the Ulster Football Cship and I stand by that. Fair enough he may know his hurling . . . let him commentate on that then!
I am not trying to slag him off although it may come across like that he tries his best and nobody could doubt his enthusiasm. He's just not good at it!
As for your comment about football being an inferior game to Hurling well that's debatable if you're from Munster or Leinster. The way Hurling is played in the Glens of Antrim or indeed anywhere else in Ulster though it most certainly is not!!!
Whatever about his shite asides, theres really no excuse for linking the game back to the champions league final at every opportunity - 'Down are in red and black, and I'd say Manchester Utd are too...' - its as though he wnted everyone to turn over and watch it instead - you'd never hear the likes of that anywhere, a commentator on one sport and channel promoting something on the other
Quote from: ONeill on May 29, 2011, 11:04:28 PM
What he is good at is hosting those chat nights. A couple of years ago himself and Jerome co-hosted the Bredagh one in the Welly Park and he stole the show.
Stealing the show from Jerome Yawn Quinn? what an achievement!
after about 15mins on saturday i said to meslf "sidebottoms in for a bit of abuse on the board i sense" :)
2 or 3 general cringy statements, then armagh get the goal, "that was just like the one you got in the aif that year peter"
(well, it was to be fair), but jesus, get yer tongue out of peter's hole mark ;D
Quote from: screenexile on May 30, 2011, 01:03:31 AM
Where I said GAA scene I should have said football scene.
That's a fairly common failing screenexile, but hardly a hanging offense.
Sidebottom is trying too hard to be entertaining and on saturday night he didn't need to be as the game itself was pretty good as a spectacle.
That's not something you could say about all the Ulster football championship games all the same.
Mark,
You're doing a fine job - you cant please every hoor, especially those that like to use message boards. Maybe someone can advise what sports commentators are meant to do. For example would it be:
- provide technical knowledge (what is a foul, what isnt, etc)
- read the game (who has the momentum, who's shoulders are dopping)
- provide tactical insight (switches required, and why managers make switches, how effective are their tactics)
- provide personnel info (player background)
- keep up with the play
and finally
- keep it interesting (make conversation when the ball is out of play etc etc)
Was spotted at Wexford park yesterday without his microphone
I dont think Mark sidebottom is that bad.
However i'd agree with Orior that he should not try to be as entertaining and stick the nuts and bolts of commentating.
What i'd suggest is that he names the player on the ball, describes what he is doing or does with it and who gets it next and repeat until ball goes dead. then explain why its a free if it is a free or just start all over again with the person about to hit the ball.
So many commentators in sport cant keep up with play.
While most of us dont need to know the player withthe ball as we already know who that man is , its kind of reassuring to hear and to have someone say what you are seeing simultaneously.
when Carthy or canning on rte are commentating, I quite often switch the sound off. I'd prefer to watch than be distracted by wrong names or incorrect interpretations of the rules.
'whats that free for I wonder' says Ger' - 'only the ref seems to know' - by then I am screaming at the telly - 'he clearly picked the fecking thing off the deck you muppet!- thats why its a feckin free' !
keep it simple Mark, keep up with play,and yer not too bad imo.
'A lick of the post, licked him' Sibebottom said this after a Down forward (Maginn?) hit the upright.Enough said.
Have to say, I like Mark Sidebottom. He has a cheeky smile which has obvious connotations of a flirty yet dirty mindet.
Also, lay off his prose. Imagine him making you a cup of coffee in the morning and saying something like "Last night we had toffee, this morning we're having coffee' etc. Life would be hilarious forever until one of us died.
think the bbc should introduce fanzone commentary similar to that of sky for the derry v armagh game with screenexile v orior. that would make for interesting viewing now!
Orior "ARMAGH SNAFFLE OUT YET ANOTHER DERRY-HI ATTACK AND HERE COMES AK WITH THE BALL and... hang on... hang on... look at the knockers on that bird in the stand below us... jeez... I would... dont like the look of yours though.... whoops, Armagh have another point, dont know who scored it... "
Screenexile "Gimme that microphone ye bollix and get out of this commentary box"
Quote from: Orior on May 30, 2011, 11:03:15 AM
Mark,
You're doing a fine job - you cant please every hoor, especially those that like to use message boards. Maybe someone can advise what sports commentators are meant to do. For example would it be:
- provide technical knowledge (what is a foul, what isnt, etc)
- read the game (who has the momentum, who's shoulders are dopping)
- provide tactical insight (switches required, and why managers make switches, how effective are their tactics)
- provide personnel info (player background)
- keep up with the play
and finally
- keep it interesting (make conversation when the ball is out of play etc etc)
He's not the worst, Canning and Morrisey may sound a little better but they and Carney and Duignan continously get the reason why the ref has blown wrong even though they watch the replay. And they also spout shit stories.
Duignan very seldom gets it wrong in the hurling.
I can't abide Ger Canning. 'Where have Tipp gone, where have they gone?'
Bang, Bang two points. Bang Benny Dunne goal. There they are Ger.
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 30, 2011, 05:27:33 PM
Duignan very seldom gets it wrong in the hurling.
I can't abide Ger Canning. 'Where have Tipp gone, where have they gone?'
Bang, Bang two points. Bang Benny Dunne goal. There they are Ger.
Just be glad you weren't listening to it on the radio, Marty Morrissey was telling the listeners what colour of helmets some players were wearing, which was handy.
There is a fella from Longford who sometimes commentates on the Down games on radio. I like his no-bull style.
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 30, 2011, 05:27:33 PM
Duignan very seldom gets it wrong in the hurling.
I can't abide Ger Canning. 'Where have Tipp gone, where have they gone?'
Bang, Bang two points. Bang Benny Dunne goal. There they are Ger.
easy enough when he only comments after the refs decision is made. Generally agrees with everything the ref does.
I found myself in disagreement with a few of his interpretations of the rules (Duignan and I suppose the ref also) on sunday.
Duignan was one thick plank with no sense of humour, very easy to wind up and a better footballer than a hurler imo only that he preferred the hurling!
The commentary is dire but I find it fairly harmless. The general lack of professional presentation is galling though. In particular the camera work. It was infuriating to be watching long images of Paddy O'Rourke pointing while in fact the game was going on. At least 5 kickouts were not shown and in fact Sidebottom had to, at one point start explaining what was happening as he realised we were not being allowed to see it.
Very annoyed about the editing, we tune in to watch the game not pictures of a baby in the stands!
Totally agree Pauld123.
Of course, no-one likes to see someone they know get slated but to me the BBC commentary and camera work is poor. The main focus should be always on the live match when the ball is in play & commentary should only really veer away from this when there is a break in play or there is nothing much happening.
A lot of people seem to be standing up for Sidebottom just cos they know him & think he's a sound lad. Fair enough but do you really think his commentary skills are up to scratch?
I think its always obvious that whoever is co-commentating with him always seems embarassed to be involved and often don't take up on any of his asides.
I wonder how Thomas Kane would get on with it?
Quote from: Tommo2 on May 30, 2011, 08:25:10 PM
There is a fella from Longford who sometimes commentates on the Down games on radio. I like his no-bull style.
That's Jack Devenney....knows his stuff alright...........as for his mate Tigger...... :-[ :-[
What about the legendary Frank (thats my real name) Mitchell?
He used to commentate on the Ulster minor matches until he realised it was an impendiment to his monumental career aspirations.
Quote from: Take Your Points on May 31, 2011, 08:00:04 PM
No one has been better than the legendary Jimmy Smyth. His TV commentary of the 2002 AI final was the peak of his career.
Agreed. Jimmy the legend.
Quote from: Take Your Points on May 31, 2011, 08:00:04 PM
No one has been better than the legendary Jimmy Smyth. His TV commentary of the 2002 AI final was the peak of his career.
Him and McGinnity were good together when they done it. Are there many other examples of a former high-profile player going into the lead commentary position?
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 31, 2011, 05:00:50 PM
Quote from: Tommo2 on May 30, 2011, 08:25:10 PM
There is a fella from Longford who sometimes commentates on the Down games on radio. I like his no-bull style.
That's Jack Devenney....knows his stuff alright...........as for his mate Tigger...... :-[ :-[
Aye, that's him. What would he belike on the tv with someone good like caravan as his sidekick?
Quote from: Tommo2 on May 31, 2011, 08:35:04 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 31, 2011, 05:00:50 PM
Quote from: Tommo2 on May 30, 2011, 08:25:10 PM
There is a fella from Longford who sometimes commentates on the Down games on radio. I like his no-bull style.
That's Jack Devenney....knows his stuff alright...........as for his mate Tigger...... :-[ :-[
Aye, that's him. What would he belike on the tv with someone good like caravan as his sidekick?
is he from the travelling community
Jimmy Smyth was excellent alright. Why did he ever retire? Pure passion and great insight and analysis.
Legend Michael O'Hehir was the Daddy though. Unrivalled for TV. O'Muircheartaigh more a radio man but equally a legend.
Mark Sidebottom?..... ehhhh no.
Nobody'll ever be as shite as Jimmy Magee working for UTV in the mid 90's.
"The front Lawn and the back Lawn"
I remember a line from Jimmy Magee in the 1996 Ulster Final I think it was when Dinkie McBride was playing
He said
"Dinkie is a real thorn in the Cavan (or whoever it was) defence.
Actually No he's a total blackthorn bush"
I watched the Down v Armagh game last night and some of Sidebottoms asides are just unreal. The time near the end where the camera goes to the GF and baby of some player and he starts talking about them getting married soon. PTG had to tell him lets get back to the football.
Ah Jimmy is great.
Just on the subject of commentating , I was listening to it on the radio BBC radio Ulster and It was Owen McConnon and Adrian McGuickian. Even before the match started Owen mcConnon within the space of five minutes had made four errors . For example, Down seem have won the toss and are playing into where the old Harps clubhouse was.. Owen It was The old Pearse og Clubhouse.. This was closely followed by Armagh and Down drew in 1990 in Casement and Down went on to win the replay,,,, No they didnt Armagh won the replay. This was followed by two more in sucession.. Very sloppy indeed. Things like that grate me , Nearly as bad as the Daily Star
Quote from: Rav67 on May 31, 2011, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Take Your Points on May 31, 2011, 08:00:04 PM
No one has been better than the legendary Jimmy Smyth. His TV commentary of the 2002 AI final was the peak of his career.
Him and McGinnity were good together when they done it. Are there many other examples of a former high-profile player going into the lead commentary position?
Tis funny how these things swing round. I remember Jimmy Smith getting pilloried on this Board for a long time as a shit commentator because he was slow or got players names mixed up. Of course the commentating was only a side-line for Jimmy and far from the "peak of his career" - captaining Armagh to an all-Ireland final, winning an all-Star, or three Ulster club titles in a row, not to mention his achievements with St Pauls JHS would probably rate a lot higher for him than any of his commentary.
As for Sidebottom, having met him only a few times he's don't nothing to change my initial impression of him as arrogant, unpleasant piece of work. His commentary work is cringe-worthy at it's best, normally poor and adds nothing to a game. However, in terms of what the BBC has to offer, he is by no means the worst - that accolade without doubt goes to the soccer man, Joel Taggart who will regularly go for three or four minutes without even mentioning what is happening on the pitch.
Owen McConnon might make the odd mistake regarding historical stats or peripheral information but he is by far and away the best commentator in the north and beats the socks of most in RTE as well.
Quote from: Ulick on June 01, 2011, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Rav67 on May 31, 2011, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Take Your Points on May 31, 2011, 08:00:04 PM
No one has been better than the legendary Jimmy Smyth. His TV commentary of the 2002 AI final was the peak of his career.
Him and McGinnity were good together when they done it. Are there many other examples of a former high-profile player going into the lead commentary position?
Tis funny how these things swing round. I remember Jimmy Smith getting pilloried on this Board for a long time as a shit commentator because he was slow or got players names mixed up. Of course the commentating was only a side-line for Jimmy and far from the "peak of his career" - captaining Armagh to an all-Ireland final, winning an all-Star, or three Ulster club titles in a row, not to mention his achievements with St Pauls JHS would probably rate a lot higher for him than any of his commentary.
As for Sidebottom, having met him only a few times he's don't nothing to change my initial impression of him as arrogant, unpleasant piece of work. His commentary work is cringe-worthy at it's best, normally poor and adds nothing to a game. However, in terms of what the BBC has to offer, he is by no means the worst - that accolade without doubt goes to the soccer man, Joel Taggart who will regularly go for three or four minutes without even mentioning what is happening on the pitch.
Owen McConnon might make the odd mistake regarding historical stats or peripheral information but he is by far and away the best commentator in the north and beats the socks of most in RTE as well.
I think he's shocking. He's at his worst when he's on a Cavan match, but his worst failing - apart from misindentification that only becomes apparant when you see the highlights on TV - is that he thinks the listener can see what he sees. Not enough simple description of what's going on and he can go 15 or 20 minutes, sometimes more, without saying what the score is.
Just listen to the amount of times Owen McConnon says "There's still an opportunity"
That aside i think he does a decent enough job.
i thought he was great craic,the rte lads are almost robotic at this stage,he doesnt seem to take himself too seriously .lighten up lads,its not as if he is as bad as the tv3 soccer commentator
Quote from: Ulick on June 01, 2011, 11:40:06 AM
Tis funny how these things swing round. I remember Jimmy Smith getting pilloried on this Board for a long time as a shit commentator because he was slow or got players names mixed up. Of course the commentating was only a side-line for Jimmy and far from the "peak of his career" - captaining Armagh to an all-Ireland final, winning an all-Star, or three Ulster club titles in a row, not to mention his achievements with St Pauls JHS would probably rate a lot higher for him than any of his commentary.
As for Sidebottom, having met him only a few times he's don't nothing to change my initial impression of him as arrogant, unpleasant piece of work. His commentary work is cringe-worthy at it's best, normally poor and adds nothing to a game. However, in terms of what the BBC has to offer, he is by no means the worst - that accolade without doubt goes to the soccer man, Joel Taggart who will regularly go for three or four minutes without even mentioning what is happening on the pitch.
Owen McConnon might make the odd mistake regarding historical stats or peripheral information but he is by far and away the best commentator in the north and beats the socks of most in RTE as well.
You are spot on about Joel Taggart. He loves OWC too.
Brutal commentator!
Ricey this ricey that!
What was the reference Dick Clerkin aka Rooster Cogburn?
The salmon + mackerel weather reference!
he has hust come out with easy peasy lemon squezy :D
my 3 year old is past that stage
Forget Sidebottom today - what about the camerawork? It was brutal. Missed loads of stuff and was showing the subs bench when the play was going on.
Jarleth's post match "Dick was riding the donkey close to the tail" comment is worthy of a mention.
Tyrone were 2 or 3 points ahead in the last 10 minutes when McManus had a difficult enough free.
Sidebottom says something like 'if he scores this point, Tyrone will panic'
McManus doesn't score, Tyrone swarm out casually with the ball , he then says 'one thing for sure, Tyrone will never panic'.
The camera work during Micky's post match interview was also dodgy.
Quote from: maggie on June 05, 2011, 10:35:43 PM
The camera work during Micky's post match interview was also dodgy.
It seemed to me that some other journalist was trying to get in on the BBC's interview and somebody else was trying to tell him to get lost!
It's fecking McHugh who drives me mad. Everything is interesting! He doesn't answer the questions he is asked. Brutal and arrogant.
mchugh 'The reason penrose missed his penalty was cause he hit it to high' No martin it cause he hit it too WIDE
Quote from: Imposerous on June 05, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
Jarleth's post match "Dick was riding the donkey close to the tail" comment is worthy of a mention.
Yep, the highlight for me.
Quote from: ONeill on June 06, 2011, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Imposerous on June 05, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
Jarleth's post match "Dick was riding the donkey close to the tail" comment is worthy of a mention.
Yep, the highlight for me.
My personal highlight was when Gollogly and Jordan had a 'coming together' off the ball and Gollogly injured himself and was taken off by the time the ref had consulted with his linesmen and escaped a probable yellow card at worst . . . "Tactical Genius there Martin!" FFS!! Probably the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard at a GAA match!!
What the feck is a "bagel's gowl" and how do you get within proximity of it? ???
Sidebottom is a laugh, so much so he reckoned Colm McCullagh snuck on to the pitch for a period of 5 minutes yesterday towards the end of the match. I though he had retired.
As for his constant 'if they get this they will lead by double figures' statement, will someone please tell him that leading by double figures means leading by 10. He was obviously referring to one side having double the other sides tally, but his blimming Maths then let him down as there was one time when I think it was 1-5 to 5 to Tyrone and Sidebottom stated that if Tyrone got the next score they would lead by double figures. 2 fives are ten Mark, not nine.
I enjoy McHughs column in the Irish Star, but for the love of god I cannot listen to the man commentating.
Quote from: red hander on June 06, 2011, 02:38:26 AM
What the feck is a "bagel's gowl" and how do you get within proximity of it? ???
You westies! It's "beagle" i.e. the dog and to let a "gowl" is to let a howl. I laughed when he said it as I haven't heard it said since my Granny was alive.
Mulligan was "shining as bright as a knight" ???
Quote from: goldenyears on June 05, 2011, 07:27:01 PM
Brutal commentator!
Ricey this ricey that!
What was the reference Dick Clerkin aka Rooster Cogburn?
The salmon + mackerel weather reference!
Ahhh come on he did give us "easy peasy lemon squeezy."
God it's catching!!!!!!!!!!!! I had to edit this as I f@@ked it up.
Quote from: Imposerous on June 05, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
Jarleth's post match "Dick was riding the donkey close to the tail" comment is worthy of a mention.
That's a Peter McDonnell quote from a few years back.
Familiarity breeds contempt, his 'familiarity' with the players leads to my contempt of him!
Was funny at Mickey's interview too when there looked like a scuffle was going to start!
Quote from: Doogie Browser on June 06, 2011, 10:39:53 AM
Familiarity breeds contempt, his 'familiarity' with the players leads to my contempt of him!
Was funny at Mickey's interview too when there looked like a scuffle was going to start!
Jerome should just let it go at this stage ;D
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Quote from: Doogie Browser on June 06, 2011, 10:39:53 AM
Familiarity breeds contempt, his 'familiarity' with the players leads to my contempt of him!
Was funny at Mickey's interview too when there looked like a scuffle was going to start!
Jerome should just let it go at this stage ;D
haha :D
Quote from: screenexile on June 06, 2011, 01:53:55 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 06, 2011, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Imposerous on June 05, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
Jarleth's post match "Dick was riding the donkey close to the tail" comment is worthy of a mention.
Yep, the highlight for me.
My personal highlight was when Gollogly and Jordan had a 'coming together' off the ball and Gollogly injured himself and was taken off by the time the ref had consulted with his linesmen and escaped a probable yellow card at worst . . . "Tactical Genius there Martin!" FFS!! Probably the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard at a GAA match!!
Yeah, I was scratching my head at that one too.
Quote from: ziggysego on June 06, 2011, 12:27:30 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 06, 2011, 01:53:55 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 06, 2011, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Imposerous on June 05, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
Jarleth's post match "Dick was riding the donkey close to the tail" comment is worthy of a mention.
Yep, the highlight for me.
+1
he is cringeworthy, every few minutes he was getting things wrong. I reckon Dessie Mone is his favorite player, as thats what he called most of the Monaghan players
My personal highlight was when Gollogly and Jordan had a 'coming together' off the ball and Gollogly injured himself and was taken off by the time the ref had consulted with his linesmen and escaped a probable yellow card at worst . . . "Tactical Genius there Martin!" FFS!! Probably the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard at a GAA match!!
Yeah, I was scratching my head at that one too.
On the Mickey Harte interview. Is there any need for journo's to ask Mickey Harte about his daughter at the end of each interview. The man has went through enough without having to answer a question each time he's on TV, "Your first Championship match without Michaela", "Your first Home match without Michaela", "Your first match when the sun wasn't out without Michaela". Is the interviewer looking for some kind of reaction?
I'm sure Mickey is well aware of what match it is and it may be a very poignant moment for him and his family but I'm sure he would rather not have to discuss this every time he runs into Thomas Kane/A.N. Other... ???
Quote from: screenmachine on June 06, 2011, 12:36:14 PM
On the Mickey Harte interview. Is there any need for journo's to ask Mickey Harte about his daughter at the end of each interview. The man has went through enough without having to answer a question each time he's on TV, "Your first Championship match without Michaela", "Your first Home match without Michaela", "Your first match when the sun wasn't out without Michaela". Is the interviewer looking for some kind of reaction?
I'm sure Mickey is well aware of what match it is and it may be a very poignant moment for him and his family but I'm sure he would rather not have to discuss this every time he runs into Thomas Kane/A.N. Other... ???
Was thinking the same myself, give the man a break now.
Even my wife (who has no interest in football and was reading a newspaper) picked up her ears when she heard him refer to a certain player as "Mr. here, he's there, he's everywhere Dooher".
Class
When I started this thread, I didn't think it would evolve into a blow by blow analysis of his commentary.
Sidey will be able to publish a 'fun' book at Christmas on the back of this.
Every word he utters is going to be dissected from now on. Infamous cult status beckons for Sidebottom. People will start to tune in just to hear what he says.
Thomas Kane is a funny looking boy - does he wear eyeliner?
right, lets get a random phrase or sentence that mark can use for next weeks match. im sure ur readin this.
Quote from: bridgegael on June 06, 2011, 01:58:21 PM
right, lets get a random phrase or sentence that mark can use for next weeks match. im sure ur readin this.
As an alternative to "easy peasy, lemon squeezy" how about
"Wee buns" e.g. "I don't know if he likes big buns or middle sized buns but that was wee buns for young McHugh"
Borderfox is right,this thread is creating a living legend.
...super smashing great point by Murphy
How about: "that was racey from Karl Lacey."
I would laugh if he came out with the old 'Its as far out as Fanad lighthouse'.
instead of colemanballs he could do his own version....sidebottomballs (has a certain ring to it) ;D
The problem with Sidebottom is that he never actually stops talking during a game. When commentating on an attack he thinks it is necessary to speak out every single pass/run/block/tackle/shot that is happening.
It sounds like one long sentence, and he doesn't take any breaths in between. I was always under the impression that TV commentators should say as little as possible as the pictures generally do the talking.
The man is a legend already!
Seems a decent fella, but by god he is irritating and cringeworthy behind a microphone.
agree with the fella who said a few posts ago that he never takes a pause or breath during his sentences. an example of his commentary would be something like - big Packie McConnell now Big Packie lays it out to Ricey McMenamin, Ricey onto the Block Gormley and the Block Gormley onto Hub Hughes, Kevin Hub Hughes finds Brian Dooher, Brian Dooher now onto Mugsy Mulligan, and Muuuuggggsssy Muuuuligan thats a superb point for Tyrone
point im trying to make is he always has to say each players name twice, so he's talking constantly when theyre on the ball and overuses their nicknames ridiculously
The problem with Sidey is that until Frank Mitchell retires, he won't get the gig at Ultimate Ulster.
It's football, not light entertainment.
Frank Mitchell was helping out the DJ upstairs in the duke of york on friday night...(piece of useless trivia there)
I feel sorry for Sidebottom's co-commentators - I think some of them are sometimes dumbfounded as to what to say post one of his outbursts.
He means well and is affable enough however he's just not very funny and he constantly tries!
Quote from: ziggysego on June 06, 2011, 12:27:30 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 06, 2011, 01:53:55 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 06, 2011, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Imposerous on June 05, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
Jarleth's post match "Dick was riding the donkey close to the tail" comment is worthy of a mention.
Yep, the highlight for me.
My personal highlight was when Gollogly and Jordan had a 'coming together' off the ball and Gollogly injured himself and was taken off by the time the ref had consulted with his linesmen and escaped a probable yellow card at worst . . . "Tactical Genius there Martin!" FFS!! Probably the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard at a GAA match!!
Yeah, I was scratching my head at that one too.
Yep - made no sense whatsoever. If the ref had wanted to give Gollogly a card, his being substituted in the meantime could not be used to escape punishment.
Sidebottom's banalities were overshadowed by Mickey Harte in his post match comments, but I suppose the Tyronies are susceptable to swallow any bit of tripe.
On the advantage of the extra man to his team, Mickey claimed,
"But it can be a distinct disadvantage as well if everybody believes things are somehow easier because you have an extra man. "
"In the modern game it is not like that anymore so we had to be very careful not to lean on the extra man."
Of course, Mickey could have lessened that heavy burden by withdrawing a player from his team.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 06, 2011, 12:43:58 PM
When I started this thread, I didn't think it would evolve into a blow by blow analysis of his commentary.
Sidey will be able to publish a 'fun' book at Christmas on the back of this.
It's going that way all right! Provisionally titled : Sidebottom "It Just Slipped Out".
Expect some of these this weekend
" It's a ding a ling from Lyng"
" Molloy is the boy"
"Nesty is getting testy"
"Crash bang wallop Murphy is taking the Mickey"
Quote from: Orangemac on June 06, 2011, 11:08:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 06, 2011, 12:43:58 PM
When I started this thread, I didn't think it would evolve into a blow by blow analysis of his commentary.
Sidey will be able to publish a 'fun' book at Christmas on the back of this.
It's going that way all right! Provisionally titled : Sidebottom "It Just Slipped Out".
Expect some of these this weekend
" It's a ding a ling from Lyng"
" Molloy is the boy"
"Nesty is getting testy"
"Crash bang wallop Murphy is taking the Mickey"
Or how about
'Thats a fine point Peter, Brick Molloy Knows his trade inside out'
'Were well insulated from the wind and rain here in Kingspan Breffni park...'
'The Tir Connaill county are a tier one team now after their promotion'
'Lyng is the king, He makes the Cavan fans sing '
Monaghans penalty: "It looks like its gonna be a good agricultural wellie"
We should do a book on potential Sidebottom one-liners before a game.
Cavan v Donegal.
"And Cavan are a-calving before our very eyes."
"McHugh by name, McHugh by nature, isn't that right Peter?" (silence)
"What a score from McEnroe. You cannot be serious"
"Mark McKeever. Well, nobody did for that goal."
Big money gamble:
"Val Andrews shares his name with Val Doonican. The latter sang a classic called Delaney's Donkey. Well, there's some shower of f**king donkeys in blue tonight. Sorry, we missed those last 2 points there. Who scored Peter?" (silence)
Thought Sidebottom was good on Sunday. did his job well. Cant understand the whinging about him . Certainly thought he cut back on the sideshow stories and concentrated on the game.
as for the 'tactical genius' of taking the man off before he was sent off. It was a masterstroke.
Quick thinking by Frank Mc. An old ploy that I havent seen for a long time.
The ref bottled it somewhat due to the confusion of the man being 'inj' and substituted. Thats the intention of taking a man off so quick when theres a good chance he'd be sent off.
For those of you disputing that this was 'tactical genius' or at least not clever - then you are too young to remember or just havent been party to the old hallions of managers that patrol the sidelines and know every trick in the book.
Frank mc 10 out of 10 for speed of thought and tactical genius.
Ref 1 out of 10 for doing your job !
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 07, 2011, 09:46:22 AM
Thought Sidebottom was good on Sunday. did his job well. Cant understand the whinging about him . Certainly thought he cut back on the sideshow stories and concentrated on the game.
as for the 'tactical genius' of taking the man off before he was sent off. It was a masterstroke.
Quick thinking by Frank Mc. An old ploy that I havent seen for a long time.
The ref bottled it somewhat due to the confusion of the man being 'inj' and substituted. Thats the intention of taking a man off so quick when theres a good chance he'd be sent off.
For those of you disputing that this was 'tactical genius' or at least not clever - then you are too young to remember or just havent been party to the old hallions of managers that patrol the sidelines and know every trick in the book.
Frank mc 10 out of 10 for speed of thought and tactical genius.
Ref 1 out of 10 for doing your job !
However as the ref didnt deal with it, it is possible the CCCCCCCCC could take action based on the striking incident clearly shown on TV. The masterstroke could could backfire as the ref may only have gave him a yellow.
Quote from: Bensars on June 07, 2011, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 07, 2011, 09:46:22 AM
Thought Sidebottom was good on Sunday. did his job well. Cant understand the whinging about him . Certainly thought he cut back on the sideshow stories and concentrated on the game.
as for the 'tactical genius' of taking the man off before he was sent off. It was a masterstroke.
Quick thinking by Frank Mc. An old ploy that I havent seen for a long time.
The ref bottled it somewhat due to the confusion of the man being 'inj' and substituted. Thats the intention of taking a man off so quick when theres a good chance he'd be sent off.
For those of you disputing that this was 'tactical genius' or at least not clever - then you are too young to remember or just havent been party to the old hallions of managers that patrol the sidelines and know every trick in the book.
Frank mc 10 out of 10 for speed of thought and tactical genius.
Ref 1 out of 10 for doing your job !
However as the ref didnt deal with it, it is possible the CCCCCCCCC could take action based on the striking incident clearly shown on TV. The masterstroke could could backfire as the ref may only have gave him a yellow.
true
but if monaghan had won the game- and lets face it , they were not that far off it in the end, a suspension is well worthwhile taking retrospectively (esp as I suspect he would have seen the red card) in exchange for beating tyrone and a place in the next round of the ulster championship.
As it turned out, monaghan lost, but its a gamble most managers would take every time!
How did sidey behave yesterday never saw the game.
I didn't see mush of the match yesterday but I did catch the end. Sidebottom and his co-commentator missed the pen being awarded at the end. They were giving out about the Cavan full-back who tried a cheeky back-heel but made a mess of it. Cavan had the ball placed, ready to strike the pen when they started asking each other what was going on. Quailty!
Sidebottom was much better this week lads. (Maybe he reads these threads?) No oul silly waffle outbursts this time round. Although as someone mentioned they both missed the the fact that the ref had awarded a penalty too busy being amazed at the attempted back heel.
Kevin Madden was co-commentating. He's not Peter Canavan but ok all the same.
Sidebottom has the knack of making a good game sound boring. Improved yesterday due to lack of silly stories but still the worst commentator on TV.
Quote from: ck on June 13, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
Sidebottom was much better this week lads. (Maybe he reads these threads?) No oul silly waffle outbursts this time round. Although as someone mentioned they both missed the the fact that the ref had awarded a penalty too busy being amazed at the attempted back heel.
Kevin Madden was co-commentating. He's not Peter Canavan but ok all the same.
Sidebottom has the knack of making a good game sound boring. Improved yesterday due to lack of silly stories but still the worst commentator on TV.
He seems to be everywhere but the crib. He writes in the Irish News, was commentating yesterday and was interviewed on UTV news tonight discussing the qualifiers. Not sure how he has gained that sort of status.
Quote from: ck on June 13, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
Sidebottom was much better this week lads. (Maybe he reads these threads?) No oul silly waffle outbursts this time round. Although as someone mentioned they both missed the the fact that the ref had awarded a penalty too busy being amazed at the attempted back heel.
Kevin Madden was co-commentating. He's not Peter Canavan but ok all the same.
Sidebottom has the knack of making a good game sound boring. Improved yesterday due to lack of silly stories but still the worst commentator on TV.
Think he has picked up on the abuse. Has cut out a lot of the attempted humour in the past few weeks. In fairness yesterdays game was over at halftime and it was hard to stay interested.
Aye, bit like the Leitrim v Roscommon game, which lost a "bit of jizz" in the second half, according to Kevin McStay yesterday ... oooh er, missus
Sidey if you are reading dont take this board as an insult. Your an awful commentator but people remain tuned in for the 'what is he going to say next?' factor. Continue with your comical ways.
Quote from: Gaffer on June 13, 2011, 09:27:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 13, 2011, 09:14:37 PM
Quote from: ck on June 13, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
Sidebottom was much better this week lads. (Maybe he reads these threads?) No oul silly waffle outbursts this time round. Although as someone mentioned they both missed the the fact that the ref had awarded a penalty too busy being amazed at the attempted back heel.
Kevin Madden was co-commentating. He's not Peter Canavan but ok all the same.
Sidebottom has the knack of making a good game sound boring. Improved yesterday due to lack of silly stories but still the worst commentator on TV.
He seems to be everywhere but the crib. He writes in the Irish News, was commentating yesterday and was interviewed on UTV news tonight discussing the qualifiers. Not sure how he has gained that sort of status.
He lives in Belfast. Handy for UTV outside broadcasts
He does? Didn't know he'd moved. health to enjoy.
Quote from: Gaffer on June 13, 2011, 09:27:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 13, 2011, 09:14:37 PM
Quote from: ck on June 13, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
Sidebottom was much better this week lads. (Maybe he reads these threads?) No oul silly waffle outbursts this time round. Although as someone mentioned they both missed the the fact that the ref had awarded a penalty too busy being amazed at the attempted back heel.
Kevin Madden was co-commentating. He's not Peter Canavan but ok all the same.
Sidebottom has the knack of making a good game sound boring. Improved yesterday due to lack of silly stories but still the worst commentator on TV.
He seems to be everywhere but the crib. He writes in the Irish News, was commentating yesterday and was interviewed on UTV news tonight discussing the qualifiers. Not sure how he has gained that sort of status.
He lives in Belfast. Handy for UTV outside broadcasts
no he doesnt
Quote from: isourboydownyet on June 14, 2011, 12:10:51 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on June 13, 2011, 09:27:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 13, 2011, 09:14:37 PM
Quote from: ck on June 13, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
Sidebottom was much better this week lads. (Maybe he reads these threads?) No oul silly waffle outbursts this time round. Although as someone mentioned they both missed the the fact that the ref had awarded a penalty too busy being amazed at the attempted back heel.
Kevin Madden was co-commentating. He's not Peter Canavan but ok all the same.
Sidebottom has the knack of making a good game sound boring. Improved yesterday due to lack of silly stories but still the worst commentator on TV.
He seems to be everywhere but the crib. He writes in the Irish News, was commentating yesterday and was interviewed on UTV news tonight discussing the qualifiers. Not sure how he has gained that sort of status.
He lives in Belfast. Handy for UTV outside broadcasts
no he doesnt
Have to be honest I always enjoy Madden's analysis of games,think Madden on Monday always a good read in Irish News and good to see Gaa getting some coverage on UTV with his Monday night slot and blog
thought 'sidey' did a good job on Sunday.
Think he has been reading here and in the past two weeks has cut out the guff from his commentary and it's all the better for it.
Good man Mark !
well i have to say i like mark,i have met him a few times through a mutual firend and have to say he's a good lad and is getting better,we have to remember he was a sports reporter first and has been moved in there to replace jimmy smith so it's only natural it will take him time.
To be fair to Madden he is fairly clued in. He lives in south west antrim not belfast. He's a good coach too - I recall seeing a lisburn u12 team he coached a number of years back in his early coaching days and they were the best drilled team at that age i'd seen by a long way. (God knows what happened them mind...)
"Sidey" means well. If he cuts out the bad jokes, which I also noticed he did sunday, he'll be grand.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
To be fair to Madden he is fairly clued in. He lives in south west antrim not belfast. He's a good coach too - I recall seeing a lisburn u12 team he coached a number of years back in his early coaching days and they were the best drilled team at that age i'd seen by a long way. (God knows what happened them mind...)
"Sidey" means well. If he cuts out the bad jokes, which I also noticed he did sunday, he'll be grand.
Hardly enough to justify him being a good coach. He was coach along with Cassidy with Derry and they were crap. He is coach of Loup this year and they have won ONE game against Newbridge who have won none. Did he achieve much as a player, you never hewar much about him as a player.
Quote from: FERDIE on June 14, 2011, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
To be fair to Madden he is fairly clued in. He lives in south west antrim not belfast. He's a good coach too - I recall seeing a lisburn u12 team he coached a number of years back in his early coaching days and they were the best drilled team at that age i'd seen by a long way. (God knows what happened them mind...)
"Sidey" means well. If he cuts out the bad jokes, which I also noticed he did sunday, he'll be grand.
Hardly enough to justify him being a good coach. He was coach along with Cassidy with Derry and they were crap. He is coach of Loup this year and they have won ONE game against Newbridge who have won none. Did he achieve much as a player, you never hewar much about him as a player.
I watched him play for his county for about 10 years even coming back to play for them after major heart surgery and was a prolific scorer for them I think even 1 year was the leading scorer in the NFL .Also played Railway cup for Ulster and as for a coach surely you cant blame him on Derrys failure as better men than him have tried to get that shower of over inflated egos to play as a team.Think he was also coach when Glenullin won their 1st C'ship in many years.Not bad for someone in his early thirties.Did he drop you at sometime Fred :-[ or maybe you were a defender who got a bit of a roasting.Then again maybe you are just a gurning Derry yan who wants to blame an Antrim man on all your ills.
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Quote from: FERDIE on June 14, 2011, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
To be fair to Madden he is fairly clued in. He lives in south west antrim not belfast. He's a good coach too - I recall seeing a lisburn u12 team he coached a number of years back in his early coaching days and they were the best drilled team at that age i'd seen by a long way. (God knows what happened them mind...)
"Sidey" means well. If he cuts out the bad jokes, which I also noticed he did sunday, he'll be grand.
Hardly enough to justify him being a good coach. He was coach along with Cassidy with Derry and they were crap. He is coach of Loup this year and they have won ONE game against Newbridge who have won none. Did he achieve much as a player, you never hewar much about him as a player.
I watched him play for his county for about 10 years even coming back to play for them after major heart surgery and was a prolific scorer for them I think even 1 year was the leading scorer in the NFL .Also played Railway cup for Ulster and as for a coach surely you cant blame him on Derrys failure as better men than him have tried to get that shower of over inflated egos to play as a team.Think he was also coach when Glenullin won their 1st C'ship in many years.Not bad for someone in his early thirties.Did he drop you at sometime Fred :-[ or maybe you were a defender who got a bit of a roasting.Then again maybe you are just a gurning Derry yan who wants to blame an Antrim man on all your ills.
id agree with this (though wouldnt be just as sore on you ferdie ;D)
in fairness to him, derry have underperformed/been crap for years, depending on your outlook, theres more than madden has "failed" in this respect;
loup have been struggling in the senior ranks for a few years (id say the county title 2/3 yrs ago took even them by surprise); would be a hard ship to turn no offence to them;
and the glenullin thing is correct also
in short, do your research before sayin too much :)
Quote from: FERDIE on June 14, 2011, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
To be fair to Madden he is fairly clued in. He lives in south west antrim not belfast. He's a good coach too - I recall seeing a lisburn u12 team he coached a number of years back in his early coaching days and they were the best drilled team at that age i'd seen by a long way. (God knows what happened them mind...)
"Sidey" means well. If he cuts out the bad jokes, which I also noticed he did sunday, he'll be grand.
Hardly enough to justify him being a good coach. He was coach along with Cassidy with Derry and they were crap. He is coach of Loup this year and they have won ONE game against Newbridge who have won none. Did he achieve much as a player, you never hewar much about him as a player.
did you ever watch football. He was a great player, no doubt about that. Played on average teams and still stood out. I know he lurks on here back and forward and i aint kissing ass, but i hate when people talk bullshit like that.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 15, 2011, 10:14:38 AM
Quote from: FERDIE on June 14, 2011, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
To be fair to Madden he is fairly clued in. He lives in south west antrim not belfast. He's a good coach too - I recall seeing a lisburn u12 team he coached a number of years back in his early coaching days and they were the best drilled team at that age i'd seen by a long way. (God knows what happened them mind...)
"Sidey" means well. If he cuts out the bad jokes, which I also noticed he did sunday, he'll be grand.
Hardly enough to justify him being a good coach. He was coach along with Cassidy with Derry and they were crap. He is coach of Loup this year and they have won ONE game against Newbridge who have won none. Did he achieve much as a player, you never hewar much about him as a player.
did you ever watch football. He was a great player, no doubt about that. Played on average teams and still stood out. I know he lurks on here back and forward and i aint kissing ass, but i hate when people talk bullshit like that.
I have to agree with you there Kevin Madden was a great player on a poor County team, and as for Derry, even Brolly is not as opinionated, egotistical and disruptive as the Bradley's (good players as they are) no wonder Damian and he couldn't get it to work.
Quote from: FERDIE on June 14, 2011, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
To be fair to Madden he is fairly clued in. He lives in south west antrim not belfast. He's a good coach too - I recall seeing a lisburn u12 team he coached a number of years back in his early coaching days and they were the best drilled team at that age i'd seen by a long way. (God knows what happened them mind...)
"Sidey" means well. If he cuts out the bad jokes, which I also noticed he did sunday, he'll be grand.
Hardly enough to justify him being a good coach. He was coach along with Cassidy with Derry and they were crap. He is coach of Loup this year and they have won ONE game against Newbridge who have won none. Did he achieve much as a player, you never hewar much about him as a player.
I was using that as an example.
I wouldn't brand him as crap because he didn't do well with Derry. Cassidy is a damn good coach/ manager and he didn't do well. I don't believe it has anything to do with coaches. He has done well with several teams and everyone knows that Loup are on a very slippery slope as their star players, all bar about two, are all the one age and have just retired.
He was a very good player - though I wouldn't say great. He would have been a bit light had Antrim been playing in higher divisions / been playing longer in the championships the years he was about that might have been seen.
I thought Sidebottom and his partner were a disgrace on Sunday. They spent most of the game sniggering at Cavan, making snide comments and just in general being condescending muppets. So much so that they made numerous mistakes, at one stage Pierson laid the ball off to Brennan (Pierson not even on the panel) Very unprofessional display.
He was still talking about Donegal getting the ball into Murphy and McFadden 10 minutes after he was sent off. I know it was a boring game but it the sending off was a big talking point, the memory must not be great.
Quote from: Incertus on June 13, 2011, 04:10:02 PM
How did sidey behave yesterday never saw the game.
Scores which defy gravity. And Physics.
At least Sidebottom hasnt jumped on the anti forum/Irish News express.
After a quiet enough weekend last week Sidey will have a bucketful of crap jokes and analogys in store for Sundays game. Lets try to predict some,
'Thats a Hearty kick out from Big Paul'
'Lynch is the pin'
'Skinner well he skinned some oranges there Peter/Kevin/whoever'
'Great move by Armagh put that on your CV Charlie Vernon'
'Toners really in tune today'
The Big Easy x 10
Quote from: ck on June 16, 2011, 11:11:55 PM
At least Sidebottom hasnt jumped on the anti forum/Irish News express.
If this thread continues the way it is it couldn't be long before he's on :D
These mighty acorns have really & trully been quashed by these orange applepickers today
Sorry MSB
We love you really.
George--a GAA man to the core he was
He has been very good today.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 19, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
He has been very good today.
Brilliant...
You couldnt mark him with a felt tip pen
whats a time penalty?
Quote from: Square Ball on June 19, 2011, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 19, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
He has been very good today.
Brilliant...
You couldnt mark him with a felt tip pen
Let himself down with that one.
Ah now lads he wasn't too bad today. Has clearly cut back on the comedy asides and focuses more on the game.
On a side note I wonder has Peter requested not to be on commentary duty with Sidebottom as he was in the study with McHugh being Sidebottom's sidekick today?
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 19, 2011, 04:41:25 PM
Ah now lads he wasn't too bad today. Has clearly cut back on the comedy asides and focuses more on the game.
On a side note I wonder has Peter requested not to be on commentary duty with Sidebottom as he was in the study with McHugh being Sidebottom's sidekick today?
He was good today. The game didn't really leave much time for stories and banter and he stuck to the task
"There's only one tree in the orchard today and it's an oak tree"
"He was the Daddy of Down, now he's the Daddy of Armagh. Happy Daddy's Day Paddy"
I turned over from RTE to watch BBC as it was shit, Bbc was worse, ended up watching on mute. The standard of commentary these days is woeful
Just mute the telly and put on Newstalk.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 19, 2011, 09:22:37 PM
Just mute the telly and put on Newstalk.
Did that once during a league game. There was a slight delay in the picture, over the radio.
When Lynch got the goal 'Armagh have just been Lynched'
The ball was thrown in at the start and his opening remarks were "it's stalemate here in Clones"
That's like the one by Mickey Keenan on RAdio Ulster - "And the news from Casement Park is that with 45 seconds gone Down have taken the lead, totally against the run of play."
He wasnt good, and he never will be good.
He can cut out the things like talking rubbish about the crowd etc, but just by saying less he doesnt become a better commentator.
His first proper sentence was nonsensical stuff, i didnt listen to any more of it:
'Great tackling by Donaghey' (there was no tackling by donaghey whatsoever, bradley had got away and it was a saving block - while it technically may be part of the tackle in the gaa rule book, noone would ever call it anything but a block)
He then went on to say 'lets hope that is a metaphor for todays game' ??? Wtf?
He cant be a good football commentator because he has only a rudimentary grasp of both football and language, both necessary to be such.
Quote from: haranguerer on June 20, 2011, 01:20:54 PM
He wasnt good, and he never will be good.
He can cut out the things like talking rubbish about the crowd etc, but just by saying less he doesnt become a better commentator.
His first proper sentence was nonsensical stuff, i didnt listen to any more of it:
'Great tackling by Donaghey' (there was no tackling by donaghey whatsoever, bradley had got away and it was a saving block - while it technically may be part of the tackle in the gaa rule book, noone would ever call it anything but a block)
He then went on to say 'lets hope that is a metaphor for todays game' ??? Wtf?
He cant be a good football commentator because he has only a rudimentary grasp of both football and language, both necessary to be such.
Fair point
I noticed he called Mark Lynch by the name Kevin Lynch on two occasions
"Danny Devlin will happily pull the pints tonight if Derry get to an Ulster Final"
Pure nonsense.
He just said on Radio Ulster after Antrim v Westmeath -:
"Tomas McCann hobbling up the steps to speak to us, having hurt his hamstring, Michael - how bad is it?"
Here we go again, nothing bettter than a good Sidebottom bashing
Seriously, Sidebottom is the worst ever. Whether the ball is in midfield or the full forward line he is talking as if he cant get words out quick enough, and he can't be silent for a second, not one single second. He is also meant to be in the more neutral role while he gives his point of view on everything, I thought that was Canavans job no? And his point of view is usually wrong, blaming Mulligan for shooting from 25 yards with wind behind his back right in front of the goals. Not to mention his numerous mistakes and stupid references to non-football matters in the middle of a match. E.g. The fact that Cavanagh/Kavanagh are spelt differently and they are no relation.
If you really don't notice the inadequacies of his commentary just flick over to RTE for a couple of minutes and watch the Dublin game.
Has anyone got any links for commentary for the Tyrone game until I mute this tripe.
Rant over.
First time I've listened to him this year. You're right about his refusal to be quiet, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes through a few inhalers at half time because he's bound to be out of breath after 35 minutes of that! Much better standard on RTE, in terms of commentary and football.
I made a wee page on facebook he annoyed me that much with his senseless ramblings and annoying way of commentating, I think Thomas Kane should be commentating he would be far better. Anyway if you want to like the page search for 'Thomas Kane to replace Mark Sidebottom on The Championship'.
Quote from: downgirl on June 26, 2011, 04:26:28 PM
I made a wee page on facebook he annoyed me that much with his senseless ramblings and annoying way of commentating, I think Thomas Kane should be commentating he would be far better. Anyway if you want to like the page search for 'Thomas Kane to replace Mark Sidebottom on The Championship'.
I understand your annoyance. I'm not on Facebook but don't worry I will promote your page anyway to friends/family/general public. Sidebottom just lost his head when there was a chance of a goal. I'm actually having a laugh at him the more pathetic he gets.
And another thing he does, every time there is an attack, he might suggest what the attacker do. For example he says an attacker is capable of doing this/ or will he do this/ or so and so is free if he can find him. He is commentating on what is happeneing not telling them what they should do.
Thomas Kane is far more eloquent, this is obvious from the small snippets we hear from him when Mark Sidebottom asks him from action from the sideline before cutting him off short etc etc and also from his interviewing skills... I don't understand why the BBC haven't realised this.
"That one has got ice on it......and its wide"
WTF is he on about?
I think it has become too fashionable to slag off Sidebottom these days.
I for one enjoy him, I don't see how people get so annoyed at commentators anyway. How precious can you be?
Do you like hearing things like
"Here goes the little attack dog Ricey McMenemin"
I ended up watching most of the second half of Tyrone v Donegal and didn't think he was too bad. If he would stop with Ricey this and Mugsy that he would be no worse than what we get from RTE. He seems to have a bit of passion even if he hasn't got a clue what is going on at times.
He hasn't a clue for much of the time and grates the nerves for the rest.
I'd be quite content if Peter whatshisname was the main commentator.
When the scores were level near the end, Tyrone got a free in their own half for a 3rd man tackle. Sidebottom, even after watching the replay, didn't have the slightest doubt that the foul was given for the player on the ball taking too many steps. It's not just that the guy hasn't a clue but he has nothing to offer to redeem himself.
What was he at with the countdown at the end? "5 seconds, 4 seconds, 3 seconds, 2 seconds, its over!!" He was right and hoarse too.
jeez he'd put you off watchin! And could he crawl any further up peter's arse?
"Sin é agus Donegal advance"
What a dandilion! :D
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 26, 2011, 08:49:52 PM
What was he at with the countdown at the end? "5 seconds, 4 seconds, 3 seconds, 2 seconds, its over!!" He was right and hoarse too.
Yeah I sorta cringed at that at the end!!
Look he's as bad as any of the commentators out there, I thought Andy Gray was the worst when on Sky Sports. The radio boys are the best.
The pick of yesterday was when someone on about the 14 out on the wing tried to switch the play to the far side (cant remember who it was) - as soon as he kicked it Sidey exclaimed 'thats a great ball....[but as it became clear it mightn't be that good, he added the caveat] if [players name] gets it...'.
He didn't, it wasn't. It was actually a horrendous ball :D
Hadn't paid much attention to him till yesterday but he is terrible. I hate the nickname stuff.
But fair play to him for commentating the whole game, as it can't be easy been so far up Peter Canavans arse and still be able to see the game.
Lads he wasn't that bad, Marty and McStay were worse on the Dublin match. They are yet to call a ref's decision right and McStay's woowoawooh when Kildare scored the goal was just short of the type of favouritism you get watching British teams on ITV. As for the nicknames sure everybody calls Ricey Ricey, although Mugsy would be called a whole lot more!And sure there have been plenty of mad dogs in around Tyrone in the last few years.
the devil you do,the devil you dont,we give off about bbc not giving gaa enough coverage and then when they do we slag it off,as applesisapples has said rte on the other side were alot worse
lay off the man,will there be some point this century where we dont hear ulstermen whinge and whine continuously just for the sake of it.the man is funny,sometimes hilariously so,light hearted and a breadtht of fresh air to the sport.myselfi(muigheo)and the missus(dub)watched one the best games of the year armagh v down and his commentary was the icing on the cake of a fantastic match.it worked well with canavan being the link man.most of ye ive read on other subjects and you quite obviously know the game well enough,if yere that over the top serious mute,lightin up, unmute simple as that.he tamed a bit as the championship progressed and thats regretable,i hope he does pull his head outta petes ass,and get back to form,and lets face it if canavans "bites" go over 20secs he ends up up his own ass,and thats not good place to be for either of them!,if pete dont like it stick in jarlath the great hes gotta good sense of humour to bootthere are books of o heirs gaffs,and o muiricheartaigh,colemanballs and all such,and let me tell that havig been at games where the former two were commentating on the radio they sounded like mental cases watchin a completely different game but all the same enjoyable.mackin is crackin.armagh have just been lynched, kernan cuttin the fat off his meat god help downthe over abundant arse ot the armagh keeper,absolute gems ::) ;D sidey for prez coz its a lark wit mark
Quote from: cuconnacht on July 10, 2011, 01:53:37 PM
lay off the man,will there be some point this century where we dont hear ulstermen whinge and whine continuously just for the sake of it.the man is funny,sometimes hilariously so,light hearted and a breadtht of fresh air to the sport.myselfi(muigheo)and the missus(dub)watched one the best games of the year armagh v down and his commentary was the icing on the cake of a fantastic match.it worked well with canavan being the link man.most of ye ive read on other subjects and you quite obviously know the game well enough,if yere that over the top serious mute,lightin up, unmute simple as that.he tamed a bit as the championship progressed and thats regretable,i hope he does pull his head outta petes ass,and get back to form,and lets face it if canavans "bites" go over 20secs he ends up up his own ass,and thats not good place to be for either of them!,if pete dont like it stick in jarlath the great hes gotta good sense of humour to bootthere are books of o heirs gaffs,and o muiricheartaigh,colemanballs and all such,and let me tell that havig been at games where the former two were commentating on the radio they sounded like mental cases watchin a completely different game but all the same enjoyable.mackin is crackin.armagh have just been lynched, kernan cuttin the fat off his meat god help downthe over abundant arse ot the armagh keeper,absolute gems ::) ;D sidey for prez coz its a lark wit mark
holy f**k, ye may as well wrote that in arabic !!
Quote from: cuconnacht on July 10, 2011, 01:53:37 PM
lay off the man,will there be some point this century where we dont hear ulstermen whinge and whine continuously just for the sake of it.the man is funny,sometimes hilariously so,light hearted and a breadtht of fresh air to the sport.myselfi(muigheo)and the missus(dub)watched one the best games of the year armagh v down and his commentary was the icing on the cake of a fantastic match.it worked well with canavan being the link man.most of ye ive read on other subjects and you quite obviously know the game well enough,if yere that over the top serious mute,lightin up, unmute simple as that.he tamed a bit as the championship progressed and thats regretable,i hope he does pull his head outta petes ass,and get back to form,and lets face it if canavans "bites" go over 20secs he ends up up his own ass,and thats not good place to be for either of them!,if pete dont like it stick in jarlath the great hes gotta good sense of humour to bootthere are books of o heirs gaffs,and o muiricheartaigh,colemanballs and all such,and let me tell that havig been at games where the former two were commentating on the radio they sounded like mental cases watchin a completely different game but all the same enjoyable.mackin is crackin.armagh have just been lynched, kernan cuttin the fat off his meat god help downthe over abundant arse ot the armagh keeper,absolute gems ::) ;D sidey for prez coz its a lark wit mark
;D ;D he has my vote
Notepads at the ready....its a special occassion so expect some special remarks from the man himself.
Sidebottom: Sweet sweet sweet point under a lot of pressure there
Joe: That was not a point
"Players turn to face the national flag" - expect a few calls expressing outrage & nelson mccausland to burn his tv licence at the gates of stormont
If he was a river he would be the mississippi. WTF???
When describing the direction of the breeze he called it a "north, south,east, west breeze" while the flags are clearly going in one direction. ;)
Surely Martin McHugh is even worse? I cannot bear him. He speaks 100mph and ALL of it is pure shite. He's usually looking to change rules too
Not Sidebottom, but Mark "Maxi" Curran!!.. What the hell!!
Quote from: upmonaghansayswe on July 17, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
Not Sidebottom, but Mark "Maxi" Curran!!.. What the hell!!
Spooted that caption. Class.
McBrierty still lies prostate ::)
'' Joe 30 minutes gone look the flags are flying''
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on July 17, 2011, 04:00:59 PM
Notepads at the ready....its a special occassion so expect some special remarks from the man himself.
Sidebottom: Sweet sweet sweet point under a lot of pressure there
Joe: That was not a point
But Mark was right...a sweet point, just a pity Umpire was blinded by the sun!
Did he not come out with something about John McEntee sticking one on big Joe? He's useless.
Give the guy a break, I watched the match on BBC yesterday and thought his commentary was grand, a few clumsy attempts at humour aside. His stats and facts were generally accurate and he called some of the incidents better than big Joe.
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 18, 2011, 09:30:13 AM
Give the guy a break, I watched the match on BBC yesterday and thought his commentary was grand, a few clumsy attempts at humour aside. His stats and facts were generally accurate and he called some of the incidents better than big Joe.
Well said. I actually enjoy his commentary.
Sidey was quite good this week. He was more focused than normal. Maybe he's a big game player.
Quote from: orangeman on July 17, 2011, 05:01:27 PM
When describing the direction of the breeze he called it a "north, south,east, west breeze" while the flags are clearly going in one direction. ;)
but they weren't inside the ground. I think he called it right tbh. The general direction was towards the corner at the end that derry were playing into in the first half, but it was all over the place at times.
Quote from: Bogball XV on July 18, 2011, 01:26:34 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 17, 2011, 05:01:27 PM
When describing the direction of the breeze he called it a "north, south,east, west breeze" while the flags are clearly going in one direction. ;)
but they weren't inside the ground. I think he called it right tbh. The general direction was towards the corner at the end that derry were playing into in the first half, but it was all over the place at times.
Even Martin Beag and Jarlath Mor couldn't agree on the direction.
only caught the end of his commentary yesterday, was going mental as Donegal were mounting their comeback. when Cassidy got the winner he was orgasmic !!
Brilliant stuff to be fair, only added to the excitement. 100 times better than Morrissey.
True--i turned over for the 2nd half--he is miles better than Morrisy.
At the stage of Donegal's comeback i thought he was gonna lose his voice he was goin mental!
Still comes out with some s hite sayings but they are funny --it cut to a witch like looking kildare female fan and he said "hubble bubble, donegal are in trouble"!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Gold on July 31, 2011, 01:59:58 PM
True--i turned over for the 2nd half--he is miles better than Morrisy.
At the stage of Donegal's comeback i thought he was gonna lose his voice he was goin mental!
Still comes out with some s hite sayings but they are funny --it cut to a witch like looking kildare female fan and he said "hubble bubble, donegal are in trouble"!!!!!!!!
That's the type of shite I can't stand.
He's nearly as bad as Jimmy McGee was for UTV in mid 90's
Quote from: Gold on July 31, 2011, 01:59:58 PM
True--i turned over for the 2nd half--he is miles better than Morrisy.
At the stage of Donegal's comeback i thought he was gonna lose his voice he was goin mental!
Still comes out with some s hite sayings but they are funny --it cut to a witch like looking kildare female fan and he said "hubble bubble, donegal are in trouble"!!!!!!!!
:) only sidey could come out with that. keep up the good work you clown
'The rain coming down is Donegal rain peter.. its that mizzly rain'
'Hes some boy! hes some boy! Hes Christy Toye'
The telescopic arms of big Paul Durcan!
Sidebottom was in top form last night. I watched RTE for the first 20 minutes and Morrissey was hard going.
Enjoyed PtG telling Sidebottom to calm down at the end of normal time yesterday ;D
That was funny, I think I remember didn't he say something about having his hand of Peter's leg? :D
I have to say i enjoyed saturdays commentary.
He works well as a colour analyst to Canavans play-by-play and insight role
Keep er lit Sidey!
Have to agree there lads, Sidebottoms commentary made me laugh out loud a couple of times... much better than a lot of the crap from morrissey & co. He still comes out with some complete clangers, but he definitely is worth listening too... great craic..... maybe a few others should start getting off his back
Canavan is very knowledgeable and gives viewers a good insight but his grammar leaves a lot to be desired; he's full of "I seens" and "I dones"!
Right someone start a campaign for Sidey to join RTE. His analogies have turned him into a cult hero.
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
Right someone start a campaign for Sidey to join RTE. His analogies have turned him into a cult hero.
They could do a swap with Marty
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
Right someone start a campaign for Sidey to join RTE. His analogies have turned him into a cult hero.
Damn straight bdfx,or failing that could drop the constitution for a bbc mayo a couple a months of the year :)
Have well enjoyed the ulster coverage this year,great stuff.
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 01, 2011, 01:15:16 PM
Canavan is very knowledgeable and gives viewers a good insight but his grammar leaves a lot to be desired; he's full of "I seens" and "I dones"!
I thought that Peter the Great was a teacher!!.
Mal Mackin, that's crakin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last couple minutes from the Donegal match:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150245530689109&oid=111276448908371&comments
:D
You have to admire his enthusiasm!
Quote from: Onlooker on August 03, 2011, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 01, 2011, 01:15:16 PM
Canavan is very knowledgeable and gives viewers a good insight but his grammar leaves a lot to be desired; he's full of "I seens" and "I dones"!
I thought that Peter the Great was a teacher!!.
A PE teacher though. There is a difference.
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A PE teacher though. There is a difference.
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As Woody Allen says: "Those who can't: teach. Those who can't teach: teach gym!"
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 01, 2011, 01:15:16 PM
Canavan is very knowledgeable and gives viewers a good insight but his grammar leaves a lot to be desired; he's full of "I seens" and "I dones"!
no offense to him,but he would put you to sleep listening to him.boring as f**k,like ross carr.
sidey is starting 2 grow on me by the time tyrone win their 4th sam [down have 3 sid ] ill be his no 1 fan
Sack him....He's a Bredagh Hoor! ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
IN THE FLESH!
You gotta hand it to him, can't see Marty or that big woose Canning exuding the same passion. Talking of which has canning retired?
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
IN THE FLESH!
Brilliant :D :D
Quote from: glens abu on August 05, 2011, 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
IN THE FLESH!
Brilliant :D :D
very good, would nt be a fan of sidebottom, but i enjoyed that :D
Quote from: shyted on August 04, 2011, 11:12:11 PM
sidey is starting 2 grow on me by the time tyrone win their 4th sam [down have 3 sid ] ill be his no 1 fan
getting a bit confosed in your numbers there dee :D
He is becoming a cult figure now!
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
IN THE FLESH!
Is he a commentator or a supporter? No point him ever going for a job with the Impartial Reporter.
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 05, 2011, 02:43:47 PM
You gotta hand it to him, can't see Marty or that big woose Canning exuding the same passion. Talking of which has canning retired?
Was watching reelin in the years there tonight and there was a clip of the Kerry Tyrone 1986 final. Ger Canning actually called Mike Sheehy...Mikey Spillane!!!
Sidey wouldnt come out with shite like that....That's a brilliant clip btw....genuine enthusiasm...
Quote from: irunthev on August 05, 2011, 04:33:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
IN THE FLESH!
Is he a commentator or a supporter? No point him ever going for a job with the Impartial Reporter.
he works for BBC Northern Ireland. They dont even want to show the games, so they definately dont give a f**k if a commentator supports one team or the other. Now if Donegal if ever play Linfield or Glentoran, he better behave himself. I enjoy listening to him. Imagine if Antrim ever get a finish like that in a big Croker game. Canavan better have a first aid qualification !!
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 05, 2011, 07:20:39 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 05, 2011, 02:43:47 PM
You gotta hand it to him, can't see Marty or that big woose Canning exuding the same passion. Talking of which has canning retired?
Was watching reelin in the years there tonight and there was a clip of the Kerry Tyrone 1986 final. Ger Canning actually called Mike Sheehy...Mikey Spillane!!!
Sidey wouldnt come out with shite like that....That's a brilliant clip btw....genuine enthusiasm...
That is a brilliant clip. Show's that it isnt an easy job either. A lot of energy and passion went into it i'd say he was wrecked after it.
Made for great commentery on the night and his enthusiasm in that clip impressed me and anyone else who watches it i would imagine.
He's come full circle but fair play to him--no doubt he keeps an eye on this board and would have seen the criticism but he's came through it and is now developing into a cult figure!
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
IN THE FLESH!
Brilliant!
Is it just me or is he wearing one of those skin tight "performance" jerseys under his t-shirt??
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
IN THE FLESH!
:D fair fcuks to him great stuff . What was god pointing at or was he performing a miracle or something ;) i wish the boys on rte would show as much enthusiasm for the game
Quote from: the Deel Rover on August 06, 2011, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
IN THE FLESH!
:D fair fcuks to him great stuff . What was god pointing at or was he performing a miracle or something ;) i wish the boys on rte would show as much enthusiasm for the game
:D :D
Sidey playing a blinder again....at the throw in...."Here's the shrill wait for the thrill". Brilliant... :D
Once I heard Martin Carneys dull voice over on RTE I turned it over to Sidey. Hes cut the crap analogies out and (whisper it quietly!) is starting to make a decent job of it with Peter Canavan.
Quote from: borderfox on August 06, 2011, 10:01:21 PM
Once I heard Martin Carneys dull voice over on RTE I turned it over to Sidey. Hes cut the crap analogies out and (whisper it quietly!) is starting to make a decent job of it with Peter Canavan.
If you want entertainment then it is RTE for the pundits, BBC for the commentry (sic).
Quote from: LeoMc on August 06, 2011, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: borderfox on August 06, 2011, 10:01:21 PM
Once I heard Martin Carneys dull voice over on RTE I turned it over to Sidey. Hes cut the crap analogies out and (whisper it quietly!) is starting to make a decent job of it with Peter Canavan.
If you want entertainment then it is RTE for the pundits, BBC for the commentry (sic).
Exactly Leo. Or better still watch it all on BBC then Sky plus it to hear what Joe and Spillane etc say after the dust settles ;)
Was flicking between the two yesterday especially as I knew Mickey Harte would do an interview on BBC after the game but it was hard to concentrate on anything with James McCartans shoes!
I thought McCartan was doing OK with the punditry for a while last week until he came out with the "gain line" at one stage. After that, you knew he was spoofing.
Quote from: Orangemac on August 07, 2011, 10:41:31 AM
Was flicking between the two yesterday especially as I knew Mickey Harte would do an interview on BBC after the game but it was hard to concentrate on anything with James McCartans shoes!
Sweet pair of limited edition Orange shoes!
Voluable is now an English word thanks to Mark. definitions welcome.
He called the Dubs on the Hill "Blue Frogs on Holiday"!! :-\
P 45 is what he needs.
He's better than Morrisey etc
Him and Joe made a good pair today
Quote from: Gold on August 28, 2011, 06:27:07 PM
He's better than Morrisey etc
Him and Joe made a good pair today
100%
I had to turn Morrisey & McStay off - woeful.
Forced me to BBC.
Impressed by Mickey Harte in the half time analysis but Burns is a BORE BORE BORE.
I would have been critical of him at the start of the year. The comments he made about Tyrone players similar to the sycophantic way Morrisey talks about Kerry's.
But I warmed to him as the Championship progressed. His report on the hype in Donegal in the run up to today's semi final was of a very high standard. Pity the match that followed was so poor.
I watched the BBC coverage yesterday as I can't bear Canning or McStay. I thought Mark and Joe did a great job. I'll be tuning in again.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 29, 2011, 01:02:53 PM
I watched the BBC coverage yesterday as I can't bear Canning or McStay. I thought Mark and Joe did a great job. I'll be tuning in again.
McStay was talking about "collision zones" yesterday. ???
You guys are all hard to please. Chill out.
Quote from: Minder on August 29, 2011, 01:09:10 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 29, 2011, 01:02:53 PM
I watched the BBC coverage yesterday as I can't bear Canning or McStay. I thought Mark and Joe did a great job. I'll be tuning in again.
McStay was talking about "collision zones" yesterday. ???
He just loves the word 'zone' full stop.
Sidebottom has a bit of passion which is lacking in the RTE coverage. His commentary for the last two minutes of the Donegal/Kildare game is very good.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
Quote from: FL/MAYO on August 29, 2011, 04:28:32 PM
Sidebottom has a bit of passion which is lacking in the RTE coverage. His commentary for the last two minutes of the Donegal/Kildare game is very good.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/14418313.stm
Very good indeed!
I have really come round to Mark this year. Having a young baby meant i wasn't able to make all the games like I usually would so have watched more games live and have enjoyed his commentary. Keep up the good work!
Like everyone else I watch BBC for the commentary and Teilifís Eireann for the analysis...Mark and Joe did a great job...another classic from him...a Donegal man was stretched out after getting emptied...he said....."He'll be ok...he's as hard as a monk's mattress"...great stuff :D :D :D
I have to say I find him ok and I think some of the criticisms of him on this thread are quite unfair. If it was MOM who had come up with the quip 'he's as hard as a monk's mattress' we'd all be bemoaning his loss. As for bias, tune into RTE till you really see it in action. I'll never forget Marty Morrisey's start to the commentary on the 2002 AI Semi Final ' The ball is thrown in and the game is on and Duiblin are 70 minutes away from an All Ireland final' Now that's bias!!
sidebottom for president
Had to endure that prat Canning yesterday, he can't tell Tip from Kilkenny. Annoying is not the word. Michael Duignan though is good. Time the beeb hired Mark out to RTE for the hurling.
Yeah the shite about puttin Shefflin on the newcomer "kilkenny always put shefflin on newcomers"--surely Tipp put their defender on the kilkenny forward
Canning must have wheeled out the "Huge one" catchphrase at least half a dozen times on Sunday, a very hard man to listen to.
Quote from: Gold on September 05, 2011, 11:07:04 PM
Yeah the shite about puttin Shefflin on the newcomer "kilkenny always put shefflin on newcomers"--surely Tipp put their defender on the kilkenny forward
Yeah and the newcomer was hauled of to be replaced by Maher.
"Heoooooge one" is bad enough, but "heoooooge one down". Down? WTF?
Just watched the game again....poor oul Sidey had an absolute mare yesterday... :-\ He even admitted himself he was having a bad day...Brannigan and Garvey look nothing like each other and he insisted and kept insisting that it was Garvey who smacked yer man in the face out on the sideline beside the dugouts!!
Martin McHugh that it was "interesting"
Quote from: hardstation on June 04, 2012, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on June 04, 2012, 02:36:19 PM
Just watched the game again....poor oul Sidey had an absolute mare yesterday... :-\ He even admitted himself he was having a bad day...Brannigan and Garvey look nothing like each other and he insisted and kept insisting that it was Garvey who smacked yer man in the face out on the sideline beside the dugouts!!
Yeah, he was all over the place all day.
he was, here, there, everywhere ;)
I like Sidebottom as a commentator. He's a nice bloke as well. Met him a few years ago at an awards night, and he was very down to earth, talked away to everyone. Unlike his higher-than-thou media colleagues (won't mention any names).
Canavan and McCartan came into picture at the end of the game and Sidebottom revealed that they both had one All Ireland Senior medal each.
He sounds alot like Tony Baloney, spouts like him too. Actually looks like him aswell.
He had a nice way of describing Quigley when he came on yesterday something along the lines of 'you wouldn't let him on your kids trampoline'.
mark sidebottom is a gawd-awful commentator aided and abetted by his clueless sidekick McHugh, it's going to be another long excruciating summer if those two are left on the mic never-mind the football..!!
Normally I find Sidebottom only a low-level annoyance, but in yesterday's commentary he was virtually unlistenable. It's not just the factual inaccuracies, when I knew he'd lost it completely was when he started telling us that Fermanagh would have won if Down's second goal had been (rightly) disallowed. This so-called analysis seemed to totally embarrass McHugh but he continued to spout it and didn't seem to realise that it's his job to commentate on the facts and Martin's to provide the analysis. With his continual slagging-off of the referee he reminded me of no less a pr*ck than Alan Green trying to be controversial and thinking the occasion is all about him.
The man may be a notional club mate of mine, but he totally betrayed his non-football background yesterday. As licence-payers we deserve better than that garbage.
Quote from: OnTheLine on June 04, 2012, 05:07:42 PM
Normally I find Sidebottom only a low-level annoyance, but in yesterday's commentary he was virtually unlistenable. It's not just the factual inaccuracies, when I knew he'd lost it completely was when he started telling us that Fermanagh would have won if Down's second goal had been (rightly) disallowed. This so-called analysis seemed to totally embarrass McHugh but he continued to spout it and didn't seem to realise that it's his job to commentate on the facts and Martin's to provide the analysis. With his continual slagging-off of the referee he reminded me of no less a pr*ck than Alan Green trying to be controversial and thinking the occasion is all about him.
The man may be a notional club mate of mine, but he totally betrayed his non-football background yesterday. As licence-payers we deserve better than that garbage.
+1
Is it too much to ask for commentators to just commentate on the match without trying to be funny, witty or controversial? Stop trying to show how pally you are with the players or how knowledgeable you are about Gaa, just f**king tell us who scored, who was sent off, who's the top scorer, who's having a mare and most of all who is on the ball and who is receiving it accurately.
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 04, 2012, 03:59:00 PM
He sounds alot like Tony Baloney, spouts like him too. Actually looks like him aswell.
He had a nice way of describing Quigley when he came on yesterday something along the lines of 'you wouldn't let him on your kids trampoline'.
Incorrect on all 3 counts nrico. He has developed a much more cultured accent than would expected from a Glensman. I haven't totally mastered that yet. Secondly, very few people spout like him. Thirdly, as you well know I'm one handsome mutherfucker.
I think yesterday's performance by Sidebottom was the worst commentary on any sporting event I've ever heard. Were he a player he'd be dropped from the panel.
Quote from: AQMP on June 04, 2012, 07:20:12 PM
I think yesterday's performance by Sidebottom was the worst commentary on any sporting event I've ever heard. Were he a player he'd be dropped from the panel.
+1
Nice guy he may be but it was dire.
Mark - spend 30mins on each of the Tyrone and Armagh websites this week learning the players' names. It's the least you can do for licence paying punters.
These are very unfair and cutting comments about good, decent people trying to do a job. In any case it's alll down to interpretation of what a commentator is for. Lay off Mark.
Good call on Jimmy Smyth
I actually think Adrian McGuckin would be perfect foil for him.
Quote from: Seany on June 05, 2012, 07:44:41 AM
These are very unfair and cutting comments about good, decent people trying to do a job. In any case it's alll down to interpretation of what a commentator is for. Lay off Mark.
Harsh comments a out a professional journalist getting paid to do a job. You can argue the players shouldn't get some slack because they are amateurs but that on Sunday from an experienced and last year competent commentator wasn't acceptable
Quote from: Seany on June 05, 2012, 07:44:41 AM
These are very unfair and cutting comments about good, decent people trying to do a job. In any case it's alll down to interpretation of what a commentator is for. Lay off Mark.
Gaelic Games are first and foremost a sport. Sidey commentates as though they are light entertainment. His job is to describe the action and anything that's relevant to it. Until he can get a handle on this, then he deserves untold abuse, or should be removed from post. If I wanted light entertainment of watch May McFettridge, Hole in the Wall Gang, or some other middle of the road innoffensive rubbish that BBC NI serves up. But we're not asking for a lot to have our games treated as a sport.
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 05, 2012, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 05, 2012, 07:44:41 AM
These are very unfair and cutting comments about good, decent people trying to do a job. In any case it's alll down to interpretation of what a commentator is for. Lay off Mark.
Harsh comments a out a professional journalist getting paid to do a job. You can argue the players shouldn't get some slack because they are amateurs but that on Sunday from an experienced and last year competent commentator wasn't acceptable
If I was a football fan I'd be more concerned about the quality of the dross on the pitch. Unwatchable shite.
I agree with Take Your POints. Jimmy Smyth was infinitely better commentator than Sidebottom. I presume the change was made because Sidebottom is an employee but they were having to pay a fee for Jimmy Symth?
I think the BBC need to have a look at their format. Either show the match live or just have a highlights show in the evenings. Personally I'd have little enough appetite for the full 70 minutes when I already know the result of the match.
I agree, very hard to sit down and watch a full match having already known the result.
Much prefer if they went back to the old days when they had a highlights programme at 10pm for 1 hr with 40 mins of the match and 20 mins of interviews and analysis after it. Ya could even bring Jimmy Smyth and Houllie back if ya wanted to.
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on June 05, 2012, 12:11:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 05, 2012, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 05, 2012, 07:44:41 AM
These are very unfair and cutting comments about good, decent people trying to do a job. In any case it's alll down to interpretation of what a commentator is for. Lay off Mark.
Harsh comments a out a professional journalist getting paid to do a job. You can argue the players shouldn't get some slack because they are amateurs but that on Sunday from an experienced and last year competent commentator wasn't acceptable
If I was a football fan I'd be more concerned about the quality of the dross on the pitch. Unwatchable shite.
Fair point. When the standard is shite it would be natural to fill the gaps with tangential conversations. Like some of the others a roundup programme with decent highlights (or lowlights this year) would be preferable to showing a full match that finished hours earlier.
highlight of a terrible 1st half was sideys classic comment about paddy mcbrearty; '' he's as ravenous for the ball as a newborn is for the bottle''.
I tuned into BBC there cos Marty Morrissey sickens my hole.
But Sidebottom is worse I'd say. The shite he comes out with - you'd feel sorry for Oisín McConville having to sit beside him and answer some of daft questions he comes out with.
Did I hear it right during the match today that Sidebottom said just as a 45 was being hit, ' Choosing to hit this 45 from the ground...'
I initially used to laugh at Sidebottom's silly sayings and quips but the BBC commentary is turning into a comedy of errors and an embarrassment. Every time McConville speaks he sort of laughs, I think it's due to the ridiculous statement that Sidebottom has just came out with beforehand...
Leave him alone lads...every broadcaster needs someone who comes out with outrageous shite every week...so that the punters will come back the following week to hear what new dung they have to say. RTE have Pat the Bollix and Scáth Fearthainne for the football, Gorgeous George for the egg chasin and Eamo for the ground ball...typical BBC...all they can come up with is Sidey!
thats as bad a commentary that i can remember, made worse by Cavanagh 'erm, eh, erm ehing' his way through - somebody get that man some media training....or get somebody better...
BBC coverage is shocking - feel sorry for Oisin Mc...by far the best insight into gaa on that channel
Yeah I thought Cavanagh was rubbish, added nothing to proceedings.
Quote from: Take Your Points on June 17, 2012, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 16, 2012, 11:39:49 PM
Yeah I thought Cavanagh was rubbish, added nothing to proceedings.
Couldn't give a direct answer regardless of how inane the question from his colleagues.
Oisin is a major step above all of the rest at the BBC, very articulate and puts the 'professional media' people to shame.
McConville's accent/tone takes away from what he is actually saying. Deathly.
Quote from: screenmachine on June 16, 2012, 10:15:52 PM
Did I hear it right during the match today that Sidebottom said just as a 45 was being hit, ' Choosing to hit this 45 from the ground...'
I initially used to laugh at Sidebottom's silly sayings and quips but the BBC commentary is turning into a comedy of errors and an embarrassment. Every time McConville speaks he sort of laughs, I think it's due to the ridiculous statement that Sidebottom has just came out with beforehand...
You did, but he followed on by saying it was the only optiin for a 45. Never tuned in before, but that thing he said about McBrearty made me smile. Is it just me or does he mutter a fair bit too?
QuoteMcConville's accent/tone takes away from what he is actually saying. Deathly.
versus Martin Carney.
Time for RTE to poach?
Quote from: Take Your Points on June 17, 2012, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 16, 2012, 11:39:49 PM
Yeah I thought Cavanagh was rubbish, added nothing to proceedings.
Couldn't give a direct answer regardless of how inane the question from his colleagues.
Oisin is a major step above all of the rest at the BBC, very articulate and puts the 'professional media' people to shame.
Funny (maybe not says you), I thought Cavanagh did well for a debut. He was obviously nervous (given his age) but I thought the conversation at HT about beating the Donegal system was much more interesting than the normal replaying stuff. Obviously he cannot say too much regarding individual players and perhaps their frailties as he'll be on the pitch himself before long but he managed to steer clear of that well enough. For a first appearance on live TV in that format it was a decent showing, much better than most 28-year-olds could manage.
Agree about McConville.
Who has an issue with McConville?
Quote from: Take Your Points on June 17, 2012, 12:35:43 PM
At what age does a person develop a level of fluency in a pressure situation discussing a subject in which he should have some expertise?
I would have thought a 29 year old accountant who would be required to have some degree of presentational skills and the ability to communicate succinctly and clearly to clients and who has spoken in public at GAA presentations would have been able to express himself fluently and provide an opinion on a game of football. Maybe I'm expecting too much.
If he didn't want to be giving opinions on possible future opponents or teams or even team-mates then being a pundit on The Championship is not the place to be.
What did he do wrong? What opinions did he not offer? What exactly annoyed you? He himmed and hawed a few times as expected with first time nerves but you're being extremely unfair and I also believe biased for some mad reason.
I'd call it if I think he was atrocious.
I thought Cavanagh was ok, he is certainly a lot easier on the ear than Oisin. You would feel it is a role that Cavanagh could grow in to with a bit of coaching. Oisin provides great analysis, but his droll delivery is very, very hard to listen to.
Jarlath is much better than Oisin and Cavanagh and thats saying something......................................Cavanagh is shocking, an ear to ear grin like hes just received a packet of fruit pastilles or just seen his first pair of bangers ;)
Carneys a bollix, a serious chip on his shoulder...................probably lost his hole in the property boom
So it's his smile you didn't like?
Cavanaghs age is not relevant. He may have some decent points to make as would most county players. But not everyone is a Tohill or an O'Rourke.
The BBC should chose someone who has a valid point to make but also the ability to make that point. Its not about 'first times' either - he was awful before yesterday, and he will be awful again
Its about capability - he spent most of the time girning, erming etc... and duking at Martin Mchugh. he should have been media trained.
He made some valid points, but again, as a footballer at that level, with that amount of success under his belt, he should know his stuff.
As a footballer he doesnt have to be a good commentator, but if i was the BBC, Id be looking for a GOOD COMMENTATOR, which Cavanagh proved he is not.
no big deal - cant be successful at everything. One of the best footballers of his generation...just leave the punditry to the people who can do it best. Lets face it you wouldn't ask Micheal Lister to tog out at No 9 for Tyrone.
In all the BBC presentation of the game was shocking - from sidebottom, cavanagh through to denise watson asking some yoke about the colour of her nails?
The presentation of our game deserves better than that
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on June 17, 2012, 05:05:28 PM
He made some valid points, but again, as a footballer at that level, with that amount of success under his belt, he should know his stuff.
As a footballer he doesnt have to be a good commentator, but if i was the BBC, Id be looking for a GOOD COMMENTATOR, which Cavanagh proved he is not.
Sean wasn't commentating. He'll be back on the field before the end of the year and was taken on as an analyst for most likely 3 live games.
Kevin Cassidy is very articulate and should be brought in..........................enjoyed him on championship matters and various other interviews........no nonsense talk
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 17, 2012, 07:28:14 PM
Kevin Cassidy is very articulate and should be brought in..........................enjoyed him on championship matters and various other interviews........no nonsense talk
+1.... and in two languages..
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 17, 2012, 07:28:14 PM
Kevin Cassidy is very articulate and should be brought in..........................enjoyed him on championship matters and various other interviews........no nonsense talk
Cassidy has been quality in anything he has appeared in. I'd imagine it'd be a brave decision to force either McHugh or Burns out in the long term. Burns on the sideline was fine - but they'd need to make sure it's worthwhile. Sometimes he was just repeating what McConville was saying.
Quote from: ONeill on June 17, 2012, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on June 17, 2012, 05:05:28 PM
He made some valid points, but again, as a footballer at that level, with that amount of success under his belt, he should know his stuff.
As a footballer he doesnt have to be a good commentator, but if i was the BBC, Id be looking for a GOOD COMMENTATOR, which Cavanagh proved he is not.
Sean wasn't commentating. He'll be back on the field before the end of the year and was taken on as an analyst for most likely 3 live games.
I didn't mean commentator - meant to say pundit. Even as an analyst, he was a poor...BBC picked him just cos he is a high profile player...his selection wasn't based on media savvy or talent thats for sure...BBC just trying to pull audience for the game over RTE
I only seen a bit of it, and it was a worthwhile idea to get cavanagh in since he's out for the year injured and could offer some modern insight since it's been burns and mchugh for over a decade now ( though i think their both decent pundits and work well together). I don't know cavanagh, he seems like someone who probably enjoys the limelight and could see all this as opening a few doors when his playing career is over in a few years. It may have been his first time in the hotseat but i have watched him interviewed many times over the years and he's brutal. Gurning, shrugging the shoulders, himming and hawwing.
As the lads have said, and i said it before somewhere, kevin cass in da man, great on TG4 with dara, even our own charlie vernon did a decent job on it a few times.
What did he say or didn't say that was poor?
Quote from: ONeill on June 17, 2012, 09:13:37 PM
What did he say or didn't say that was poor?
lets just say that he didn't offer too many insights nor say anything that McConville said more coherently.
Maybe he did, but i just couldn't understand him
Quote from: ONeill on June 17, 2012, 09:13:37 PM
What did he say or didn't say that was poor?
A bit over-sensitive on the whole issue O'Neill!
Just looking for clarity. I don't know Sean Cavanagh nor have I met him.
I think Sidebottom gets a hard time too. Probably be accused of being oversensitive on that one so will let her slide.
In the few games that I've seen on BBCNI, Sidebottom with McHugh co-commentating is a demented partnership, but McHugh would make anyone look worse. Oisin is grand as co-commentator, he doesn't waste words, is usually spot on and had a 'reducer' effect on Sidebottom's badgering inanities.
Quite simply the BBC are a bunch of amateurs when compared with RTE. Sidebottom is an absolute joke, between long akward silences.. long slow lazy commantary and regularly getting players names wrong. Useless! He'd make a good game sound like a watching grass grow. I don't like McConville either. Call me a snob if you want but his accent is one long dull drone. If you listen he has very little to say which is insightful either.
At least McHugh will offer some sort of insight into what the players do at training, how they play, changes he d make etc. Cavanagh wasnt great but sure he's only a cub.
BBC need to up their game or forget about it.
Here Cavanagh didn't really do a pile wrong. The BBC shouldn't just be plucking people without giving them some kind of proper media training and for his first go it wasn't all that bad. I would imagine he's the sort of boy who would happily segue into media when his playing days are over and Saturday was the first step in that. Good luck to him I say I shall look forward to his insights on 'playacting' or 'drawing frees'.
Sidebottom just can't hack it and I've been saying it for a long time. He's been doing this a while now and he's still making a haimes of it. The Down Fermanagh game a few weeks ago was brutal. He even apologised at a stage. He was getting names wrong, making a song and dance about a bit of handbags it was just cringey stuff. Would it be impossible for the Beeb to have open auditions and get somebody in to do a good job? By all accounts that's how RTE got O'Hehir and O'Muircheartaigh surely the interest would be there and the way the GAA is I'm sure they wouldn't have to spend a fortune as anyone who is good at the job will be able to sideline at after dinner events/prizegivings.
Just a thought!
Quote from: ck on June 18, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Sidebottom is an absolute joke, between long akward silences.. long slow lazy commantary and regularly getting players names wrong. Useless! He'd make a good game sound like a watching grass grow.
Au contraire. If anything he gets over-excited commentating on games that
are like watching grass grow.
Segway?
Quote from: Hardy on June 18, 2012, 06:22:42 PM
Segway?
Aye . . . he's gonna get one of these when he retires from playing . . .
(http://www.zu-zu.co.il/Pictures/Segway-For-Rent.jpg)
Someone should give one of these to Sidebottom next time he's in Clones. Hopefully he'll bugger off on one and miss the match. He usually misses the match even he commentates!
This is all very unfair comment. Mark Sidebottom is as decent a guy as you could find. His style might not be to everyone's satisfaction, but I remember the same nonsense about Jimmy Smith too when he was commentating. Ger Canning also gets it on this board regularly and he is also a fine commentator imo.
And Sean cavanagh did OK as well I thought.
Mark does not need this at this time. His family were involved in a terrible tragedy just before Christmas which has shaken him to the very core. I'm not going to go into the details, but it involved the death of an infant neighbour who was friends with his own child. It is hurting him still.
So what if his commentary isn't to the level of perfection some people demand. Is it really worth all this criticism and hurtful comment?
If we heard today that he had passed away in the night, typical Irish, there would be a 50 page tribute on this board to him and how remarkable a man he was with his lovely, 'quirky' comments during his commentaries etc etc etc etc etc
I doubt he'd thank you for that personal context.
Quote from: Seany on June 19, 2012, 11:59:13 AM
This is all very unfair comment. Mark Sidebottom is as decent a guy as you could find. His style might not be to everyone's satisfaction, but I remember the same nonsense about Jimmy Smith too when he was commentating. Ger Canning also gets it on this board regularly and he is also a fine commentator imo.
And Sean cavanagh did OK as well I thought.
Mark does not need this at this time. His family were involved in a terrible tragedy just before Christmas which has shaken him to the very core. I'm not going to go into the details, but it involved the death of an infant neighbour who was friends with his own child. It is hurting him still.
So what if his commentary isn't to the level of perfection some people demand. Is it really worth all this criticism and hurtful comment?
If we heard today that he had passed away in the night, typical Irish, there would be a 50 page tribute on this board to him and how remarkable a man he was with his lovely, 'quirky' comments during his commentaries etc etc etc etc etc
No harm but that has nothing to do with anything. We pay money to the BBC and we expect a decent level of service. I have no doubt Sidebottom's a good lad, that he means well and that he's a character around GAA circles. It doesn't make him a good commentator simple as.
If someone isn't doing their job up the required level they are going to get criticism. In his line of work he's under public scrutiny so the microscope is tighter on him. That's just the way it is I'm afraid.
Quote from: Seany on June 19, 2012, 11:59:13 AM
This is all very unfair comment. Mark Sidebottom is as decent a guy as you could find. His style might not be to everyone's satisfaction, but I remember the same nonsense about Jimmy Smith too when he was commentating. Ger Canning also gets it on this board regularly and he is also a fine commentator imo.
And Sean cavanagh did OK as well I thought.
Mark does not need this at this time. His family were involved in a terrible tragedy just before Christmas which has shaken him to the very core. I'm not going to go into the details, but it involved the death of an infant neighbour who was friends with his own child. It is hurting him still.
So what if his commentary isn't to the level of perfection some people demand. Is it really worth all this criticism and hurtful comment?
If we heard today that he had passed away in the night, typical Irish, there would be a 50 page tribute on this board to him and how remarkable a man he was with his lovely, 'quirky' comments during his commentaries etc etc etc etc etc
Jesus there was hardly any call to post any of that bit OTT
I'd like to see Jackie Fullerton getting a chance
Quote from: Seany on June 19, 2012, 11:59:13 AM
This is all very unfair comment. Mark Sidebottom is as decent a guy as you could find. His style might not be to everyone's satisfaction, but I remember the same nonsense about Jimmy Smith too when he was commentating. Ger Canning also gets it on this board regularly and he is also a fine commentator imo.
And Sean cavanagh did OK as well I thought.
Mark does not need this at this time. His family were involved in a terrible tragedy just before Christmas which has shaken him to the very core. I'm not going to go into the details, but it involved the death of an infant neighbour who was friends with his own child. It is hurting him still.
So what if his commentary isn't to the level of perfection some people demand. Is it really worth all this criticism and hurtful comment?
If we heard today that he had passed away in the night, typical Irish, there would be a 50 page tribute on this board to him and how remarkable a man he was with his lovely, 'quirky' comments during his commentaries etc etc etc etc etc
Thats all well and good but he is a very poor commentator who should have been sacked after his comments during the Macrory Cup final which at best was in poor taste.
this thread risks losing the run of itself
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on June 19, 2012, 07:44:57 PM
this thread risks losing the run of itself
A bit like this - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/14418313
:P
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 19, 2012, 07:52:44 PM
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on June 19, 2012, 07:44:57 PM
this thread risks losing the run of itself
A bit like this - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/14418313
:P
Thats his 'Best of' DVD sorted then
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on June 19, 2012, 09:19:19 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 19, 2012, 07:52:44 PM
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on June 19, 2012, 07:44:57 PM
this thread risks losing the run of itself
A bit like this - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/14418313
:P
Thats his 'Best of' DVD sorted then
I think that's actually brilliant, you'd never get Canning that excited by a match. Sidey is an acquired taste, he comes out with some howlers but by and large he entertains and isn't great that Oisin, PTG etcc are on hand to reel him in. Canavan and McConville up there ith Michael Duignan when it comes to analysis.
What happened in the MacRory??
Quote from: Don Johnson on June 20, 2012, 01:49:20 PM
What happened in the MacRory??
He reffered to the portliness of one of the keepers, can't remember the exact wording.
Not exactly a sacking offence. Brolly said as bad about Andrew Murnin in the 2009 Minor Final when he said he looked like someone who'd have been rioting on the streets in the early 1970s
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 20, 2012, 10:04:21 PM
Not exactly a sacking offence. Brolly said as bad about Andrew Murnin in the 2009 Minor Final when he said he looked like someone who'd have been rioting on the streets in the early 1970s
Maybe Brolly knows young Murnins dad. ;)
I remember Peter Canavan's first few times as a pundit on TV3. He was a bit nervous and didn't do that great. After a few weeks, when the nerves settled and he got into the swing of it, it was very good at it.
I actually think McConnon and Brian Canavan that do the Radio Ulster commentary are very good. Why cant BBC NI just give viewers a red button option for alternative commentary and then the choice of listening to the Radio Ulster commentary on the TV.
Sidey warming up.
Sean has cut the stuttering a good bit so far. Oisin is now a smooth operator. Are they sidelining McHugh and Burns by stealth?
...whilst Colm O'Rourke has written off the game already.
Quote from: ONeill on June 24, 2012, 01:58:06 PM
...whilst Colm O'Rourke has written off the game already.
I thought he was going to cry when describing how he thought the game would go.
I'd rather listen to him over Marty morrissey any day
Has had a good game so far. I like him
Best was when he said Laverty would have went down there (when Ambrose didnt)!
Could not fault him today
Far better than Morrisey
He called it as Aidan Carr replacing Maginn in starting 15 before the game when Carr was starting all along. Eoin McCartan replaced Maginn in the xi but there was no mention of him the whole of the first half, any time no15 got the ball he was called either Donal O'Hare (13) or Maginn who they clearly said wasn't playing at the start of the game. Sort it out. Also has just said 25 minutes gone in the second half here when it was the 56th minute. So unprofessional.
He was giving the twitter address as Down were stepping up for the equalising free.
Quote from: C_Berg_316 on June 21, 2012, 08:17:34 AM
I actually think McConnon and Brian Canavan that do the Radio Ulster commentary are very good. Why cant BBC NI just give viewers a red button option for alternative commentary and then the choice of listening to the Radio Ulster commentary on the TV.
Are you serious? I think McConnon is atrocious. For a radio commentator, he commentates assuming that the listener can actually see what's happening. I flicked between the Radio Ulster and RTE Radio commentary today and it was a world of difference. RTE was quick, crisp, described exactly what was happening on the pitch. McConnon very often talks in ambigious terms, ie "It's a long ball up the field and it's caught, etc." Also, his instinct is always to react to an incident "Oh, that was great, fantastic..." before actually telling the listener what has happened. Very often, it's left to Brian Canavan to fill in the details of an incident. Canavan is a good co-commentator, but McConnon is poor for radio, rarely gives score or time updates, even when a team has just scored.
bring back jimmy smyth
I was watching RTE and at half-time did I hear Michael Lyster apologising for the camera work from BBC? To be truthful he was right. Three points were missed by the Beeb (okay they were frees) but really the play should be followed by the camera. There seems to have an overkill of replays of everything which is frustrating as you can hear the crowd following the live play while the Beeb is showing a foul... sort it out.. !
Quote from: cville on June 24, 2012, 05:19:47 PM
I was watching RTE and at half-time did I hear Michael Lyster apologising for the camera work from BBC? To be truthful he was right. Three points were missed by the Beeb (okay they were frees) but really the play should be followed by the camera. There seems to have an overkill of replays of everything which is frustrating as you can hear the crowd following the live play while the Beeb is showing a foul... sort it out.. !
Was Sidearse on the cameras too?
They missed a Monaghan goal chance as the camera cut to the sideline reporter and Jarlath Burns - ridiculous! Why did they think we needed to see them while the game was going on?
Quote from: supersub on June 24, 2012, 03:21:13 PM
He called it as Aidan Carr replacing Maginn in starting 15 before the game when Carr was starting all along. Eoin McCartan replaced Maginn in the xi but there was no mention of him the whole of the first half, any time no15 got the ball he was called either Donal O'Hare (13) or Maginn who they clearly said wasn't playing at the start of the game. Sort it out. Also has just said 25 minutes gone in the second half here when it was the 56th minute. So unprofessional.
Carr was wearing 24 and McCartan 15. I would have had the same take on who replaced who.
I enjoyed his commentary today, but there was more than a hint of a Down bias from the Bredagh man.
When Monaghan scored their quick goal, he said that it was like the famous Kerry v Dubs match when Charlie Nelligan was lobbed!
Quote from: cville on June 24, 2012, 05:19:47 PM
I was watching RTE and at half-time did I hear Michael Lyster apologising for the camera work from BBC? To be truthful he was right. Three points were missed by the Beeb (okay they were frees) but really the play should be followed by the camera. There seems to have an overkill of replays of everything which is frustrating as you can hear the crowd following the live play while the Beeb is showing a foul... sort it out.. !
The camera work was atrocious. They switched to Kane and Burns talking and in the background Monaghan sounded to have got a goal chance(from the fluffed quick kickout). The cameraman decided to just keep where he's at and then when they finish talking they show a replay of the chance while another chance is happening and they have to replay it too - farcical. I think they needed a replay of that one too.
Sidebottom was grand. He did think a lot of things that weren't fouls were fouls but that aside he was grand.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 24, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
Quote from: supersub on June 24, 2012, 03:21:13 PM
He called it as Aidan Carr replacing Maginn in starting 15 before the game when Carr was starting all along. Eoin McCartan replaced Maginn in the xi but there was no mention of him the whole of the first half, any time no15 got the ball he was called either Donal O'Hare (13) or Maginn who they clearly said wasn't playing at the start of the game. Sort it out. Also has just said 25 minutes gone in the second half here when it was the 56th minute. So unprofessional.
Carr was wearing 24 and McCartan 15. I would have had the same take on who replaced who.
I enjoyed his commentary today, but there was more than a hint of a Down bias from the Bredagh man.
What's your point about the numbers? Clearly said on the team sheet graphics at the start Carr was 24 and Maginn in the corner 12. Obviously he knew 15 wasn't originally on from that. Anyway there's no excuse for calling the same player 2 different names in the same half, firstly when he said Maginn wasn't starting and secondly when Donal O'Hare was on the pitch wearing 13.
I'm not a fan of Sidebottom and understand why there is a thread dedicated ti his commentary, the most valid post on this thread for me is to bring back Jimmy Smyth. Why was he ever let go? He's got passion, knowledge and excitement.
Credit where its due, i Thought sidearse did a good job today. Thankfully he ditched all the lame pre prepared sayings today and just described the action. When he does that only darragh maloney is better.
For me McHugh is a know all after the fact, dictating what should have happened. When do any of his predictions ever pan out?
only thought sidebottom was bad to i heard mark Lawrence the night, hes hard to listen to, most biased commentry from an Irish guy i ever hear, complaining about shirt pulling, players lying down, and alot of general smart remarks, pretty hard to listen to
He's poor but rte,s is no better with morrissey and the soccer man Maloney
Sidebottom seems to get a while touch, was watching the Down match on RTE yesterday and it was unreal the number of factual errors made by the commentary team as well as calling players by the wrong name etc.
Martin Carney said after 5 minutes yesterday that Lennon and Clerkin were dominating midfield and catching a lot of high ball, they hadn't caught one at that stage.
Seems like he had it prepared and was coming out with it regardless of how the game went.
Did I hear him correctly calling Dick Clerkin "The Clerkinator"?
Quote from: take_yer_points on June 25, 2012, 09:21:36 AM
Did I hear hime correctly calling Dick Clerkin "The Clerkinator"?
I didn't watch the coverage but got a text from my mate in England . . . it all becomes clear now!
RTEs pundits are forever sitting on the fence too. There were a few incidents yesterday that were definite fouls but on watching the replay the RTE boys were still reluctant to ever say it was a penalty or say anything that seemed to contradict the referees decision.
I actually thought the 2 cubs of mcconville and cavanagh worked well, considering burns and mchugh have held the seats for over a decade. The usual shite people say about mcconville's voice bein drone, what a load of nonsense. To me it sounds normal, and im a mid armagh man, though it's fair to say his facial expression doesn't change much and that's probably whats in people's heads. For me, it contrasts with sean, who as someone said he gurns like a kid in a sweet shop, and maybe still a bit nervours. But overall i thought they worked well together, maybe the respect of the duels their teams had over the years and they both know what their talking about in terms of modern day football. Good talk about diving for frees etc
Burns and mchugh still 2 good man to have around though, both good analsyts
Quote from: Minder on June 25, 2012, 08:54:37 AM
Martin Carney said after 5 minutes yesterday that Lennon and Clerkin were dominating midfield and catching a lot of high ball, they hadn't caught one at that stage.
Seems like he had it prepared and was coming out with it regardless of how the game went.
ha, love that kinda stuff
It's probably fair to say there are no top GAA commentators left. None that GAA people really like... Michael O'M, Jimmy Smyth, Adrian Logan etc all had the X factor which is sadly lacking is modern day commentators. Sidebottom is the worst by a long way! Cringe-bottom
I'm sure Sidey is a lovely lad but if you're being totally honest 90% of his commentary is indeed cringeworthy. Some of his lines are so out there you have to laugh but compared to somebody like Jimmy Smyth or even Jimmy Magee (who also has his moments) he's not in the same league.
Jimmy used to do it for the BBC back in the mid 90s.
Whilst Oisin knows what he's talking about, if you can't really hear that amazing boring monotonous tone then either your biased or deaf. If he had some of Cavanagh's enthusiasm and vice versa then they would be a good team. At least they don't seem to be constantly fighting for the limelight like Brolly and Spillane or even McHugh.
I watched the analysis of Down v Monaghan last night on the Sunday game and how does Davis just sit there and let Brolly bully him so easily.
The incident where a Down man stamps on a Monaghan player I think was typical.
Davis takes a few mins to give his opinion and then Brolly interrupts and says
NAW NAW nothing in that Tony and rubbishes everything he just said
Tony just sits back and says nothing in reply.
I have to say that I usually watch the RTE one more but I've found myself this year moving more towards the BBC as at least I won't have to look at that Spillane ugly mug and listen to the anti Ulster bullshit.
The line that stood out for me was describing a point as "sweet as nuts"
It was his repeated use of "Benny time"
that took the cringeworthy first prize, imo.
I can tolerate Sidebottom but not with McHugh, he's fuel to the fire
Quick one (or two), particularly aimed at those whose county happens to be playing.
Do you lads ever go to games? Or do you just sit at home, watch on TV with the laptop besides yis, sharing your expertise in cyberspace?
I don't want to freak you out too much but there is technology that allows you to record these games whilst you physically attend as well. You may need to sit down after that.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 24, 2012, 11:54:54 PM
only thought sidebottom was bad to i heard mark Lawrence the night, hes hard to listen to, most biased commentry from an Irish guy i ever hear, complaining about shirt pulling, players lying down, and alot of general smart remarks, pretty hard to listen to
Not an Irish guy, an Englishman who chose to represent Ireland, presumably because England didn't want him. He and Andy should listen to houghton.
I quite enjoy Sidebottom, he likes to bring a bit of craic to the whole thing and there's nothing wrong with that at all. Some people go out of their way to find faults on here - so what if he gets a few names wrong, I think he's good entertainment.
I was more annoyed with the shite BBC directing at the weekend.
Watching Jarlath Burns and yer man O'Kane on the sideline talking while Monaghan are through on goal.
That was just one instance. All too often we seen 4 or 5 replays while play was ongoing.
Quote from: babarino on June 26, 2012, 09:37:57 PM
Quick one (or two), particularly aimed at those whose county happens to be playing.
Do you lads ever go to games? Or do you just sit at home, watch on TV with the laptop besides yis, sharing your expertise in cyberspace?
wtf?
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 28, 2012, 06:58:43 PM
I was more annoyed with the shite BBC directing at the weekend.
Watching Jarlath Burns and yer man O'Kane on the sideline talking while Monaghan are through on goal.
That was just one instance. All too often we seen 4 or 5 replays while play was ongoing.
Surely the technology is available to show the replays whilst showing the action?
And yer man Kane. He's a terrible interviewer. No idea where the BBC got him from.
Quote from: Take Your Points on June 28, 2012, 11:26:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 28, 2012, 08:10:40 PM
And yer man Kane. He's a terrible interviewer. No idea where the BBC got him from.
Derry.
f**k off!!! Is he balls from Derry . . .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/rugby_union_season_ticket/html/4.stm
Thomas Niblock is however and I've heard very little complaints about him! He's excellent any time I hear him on the radio and he's played a bit so he knows what he's talking about!
'...he knows what he's talking about!'
And you're definitely sure he's from Derry?
no sean cavanagh with the bbc? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on June 30, 2012, 04:23:58 PM
no sean cavanagh with the bbc? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
ah f**k...he's pitchside instead
"he holds onto a ball like King Kong holding a new girlfriend"
Him and Burns, two unbelievably clueless c***ts.
I can handle the 'hustle, bustle, muscle shite, altho the other 'three' word phrase he suggested, bubble, bubble, toil and trouble, didnt really add up, but some of the stuff is just so clueless its an embarrassment. Burns keeps spouting whatever shite he believes relates to what just happned, no matter how much it contradicts what he said in relation to previous incidents. Its brutal!
Lol - they've just asked banty for his tactial take!! ;D
Hustle, Bustle, Muscle!
Quote from: haranguerer on June 30, 2012, 05:17:04 PM
Him and Burns, two unbelievably clueless c***ts.
I can handle the 'hustle, bustle, muscle shite, altho the other 'three' word phrase he suggested, bubble, bubble, toil and trouble, didnt really add up, but some of the stuff is just so clueless its an embarrassment. Burns keeps spouting whatever shite he believes relates to what just happned, no matter how much it contradicts what he said in relation to previous incidents. Its brutal!
have to agree...first time today that i have realised how shite Burns is...his commentary is woeful. Adds nothing - and between the pair of them, just hard to listen to
"Stephen Uuh Neill"
JB: "bees, honeypots"
Its getting worse if that was possible - hes just spent five minutes askign for replays to see if a rule hes just made up was breached.
Also, honourable mention to - JB: MS 'They're round him like a blizzard', JB 'to keep that metaphor going, they're round him like bees' ;D
Hes also now mentioned 42 different ways to beat the blanket defence
Surely its a W not M.
W for win Marko
Quote from: Gold on June 30, 2012, 05:39:59 PM
Surely its a W not M.
W for win Marko
thought the same...'w' for something else Mark
sidebottom is a tool.
What sort of shambles was that last 5 minutes? he hadn't a clue - too quick to come out with a metaphor, than to stay with the play...and the high pitched squeal of the cross bar?
well done donegal
Turn over to RTE if he bothers you that much.
Can't understand what all the fuss is about. I see little difference in the type of quips he makes and those which Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh used to make:
"1-5 to 0-8...well from Lapland to the Antarctic, that's level scores in any man's language".
"He grabs the sliotar, he's on the 50......he's on the 40......he's on the 30....... he's on the ground".
"Colin Corkery on the 45 lets go with the right boot. Its over the bar. This man shouldn't be playing football. He's made an almost Lazarus-like recovery from a heart condition. Lazarus was a great man but he couldn't kick points like Colin Corkery".
"In the first half they played with the wind. In the second half they played with the ball."
"Setanta Ó hAilpín....the original Setanta from the old Gaelic stories was ten foot tall, had ten fingers on each hand and ten toes on each foot but even he couldn't be playing better hurling than his namesake here today"
"Anthony Lynch, the Cork corner-back, would be the last person to let you down - his people are undertakers"
"Teddy looks at the ball, the ball looks at Teddy"
" Dublin have scored two points, one from the hand and one from the land"
"I see John O'Donnell dispensing water on the sideline. Tipperary, sponsored by a water company. Cork Sponsored by a tae company. I wonder will they meet later for afternoon tae".
"Danny "The Yank" Culloty. He came down from the mountains and hasn't he done well".
"He kicks the ball lan san aer, could've been a goal, could've been a point.............it went wide".
Well, he introduced me to a word I hadn't heard of before - wheeker. He said of McMahon's second free - 'the weaker foot from a wheeker player'. Had to look it up - http://www.irishslang.info/general/131-wheeker.html
Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2012, 12:55:36 PM
Well, he introduced me to a word I hadn't heard of before - wheeker. He said of McMahon's second free - 'the weaker foot from a wheeker player'. Had to look it up - http://www.irishslang.info/general/131-wheeker.html
Hadn't heard the word "wheeker" since I was about 14. Perfectly understandable by those of us who are native speakers of Ullans.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 01, 2012, 12:33:09 PM
Can't understand what all the fuss is about. I see little difference in the type of quips he makes and those which Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh used to make:
"1-5 to 0-8...well from Lapland to the Antarctic, that's level scores in any man's language".
"He grabs the sliotar, he's on the 50......he's on the 40......he's on the 30....... he's on the ground".
"Colin Corkery on the 45 lets go with the right boot. Its over the bar. This man shouldn't be playing football. He's made an almost Lazarus-like recovery from a heart condition. Lazarus was a great man but he couldn't kick points like Colin Corkery".
"In the first half they played with the wind. In the second half they played with the ball."
"Setanta Ó hAilpín....the original Setanta from the old Gaelic stories was ten foot tall, had ten fingers on each hand and ten toes on each foot but even he couldn't be playing better hurling than his namesake here today"
"Anthony Lynch, the Cork corner-back, would be the last person to let you down - his people are undertakers"
"Teddy looks at the ball, the ball looks at Teddy"
" Dublin have scored two points, one from the hand and one from the land"
"I see John O'Donnell dispensing water on the sideline. Tipperary, sponsored by a water company. Cork Sponsored by a tae company. I wonder will they meet later for afternoon tae".
"Danny "The Yank" Culloty. He came down from the mountains and hasn't he done well".
"He kicks the ball lan san aer, could've been a goal, could've been a point.............it went wide".
Wtf was the point in this??
It's quite simple - M O'M is considered a legend for comments like these yet when Sidebottom makes comments of a similar nature he's called a tool. BTW I heard Ger Canning say just now after Meath got a score to make in 2 -1, 'That's the equalising score' so they all make mistakes.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 01, 2012, 02:14:23 PM
It's quite simple - M O'M is considered a legend for comments like these yet when Sidebottom makes comments of a similar nature he's called a tool. BTW I heard Ger Canning say just now after Meath got a score to make in 2 -1, 'That's the equalising score' so they all make mistakes.
The great Michael never came out with shite like this;
QuoteHustle, Bustle, Muscle!
Quote from: trileacman on July 01, 2012, 03:36:26 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 01, 2012, 02:14:23 PM
It's quite simple - M O'M is considered a legend for comments like these yet when Sidebottom makes comments of a similar nature he's called a tool. BTW I heard Ger Canning say just now after Meath got a score to make in 2 -1, 'That's the equalising score' so they all make mistakes.
The great Michael never came out with shite like this;
QuoteHustle, Bustle, Muscle!
"Teddy looks at the ball, the ball looks at Teddy" If Sidebottom said that people would want him strung up. That being said, Sidebottom isn't a patch on the guy who is commentating on the Arnagh match on Shannonside Radio
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 01, 2012, 03:44:32 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 01, 2012, 03:36:26 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 01, 2012, 02:14:23 PM
It's quite simple - M O'M is considered a legend for comments like these yet when Sidebottom makes comments of a similar nature he's called a tool. BTW I heard Ger Canning say just now after Meath got a score to make in 2 -1, 'That's the equalising score' so they all make mistakes.
The great Michael never came out with shite like this;
QuoteHustle, Bustle, Muscle!
"Teddy looks at the ball, the ball looks at Teddy" If Sidebottom said that people would want him strung up. That being said, Sidebottom isn't a patch on the guy who is commentating on the Arnagh match on Shannonside Radio
The majority of listeners think that Sidearse is a bollix. Live with it.
A rather sweeping statement ! I'm not convinced that a few posters on an internet discussion board could be termed as 'the majority of listeners'
Are some people seriously mentioning M'OM in the same breath as Mark?
its a no contest....no one comes close to Micheal.
I think the BBC have a lot to answer for here - their coverage yesterday was again poor, couldnt wait to get us off air, and no time for post match analysis.
Gaelic games pull a serious audience, and that should be reflected by the quality of their coverage, not only in terms of physical coverage but also in the pundits and presenters used to cover the games.
Is the current content the best they can deliver - definitely not.
Mark sidebottom has Jarleth Burns, Mchugh and cavangah as wing men, who all contribute to making him look bad
I dont think personally that Cavanagh is capable of being a pundit, but the fact that he is still a squad member should make him illegible, esp when he talks about current tactics etc...I'm probably being a bit blinkered here, but i just see him setting himself up for a career after football. Your man Martin who works with TG4 is miles better.
McConville i think is excellent, and now that Fermnagh have gone out, Canavan would be a better option.
There have to be better qualified and more coherent ex-players available than them?
Mark is no Miceal, but not as bad as he's made out to be. He tries to hard with the rhyming slang type commentry. Oisin and Peter Canavan are the best sidemen in Football. Canning is an annoying tool, but Daragh Maloney is by far the best commentator on GAA I've heard this year.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 01, 2012, 12:33:09 PM
Can't understand what all the fuss is about. I see little difference in the type of quips he makes and those which Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh used to make:
The difference... well, one of the many differences, but a key one.
M O'M made his quip when the ball is out of play.
MS makes his quips in the middle of critical phases of play.
It is reflected in the BBC's general editing - its like a program put together by a soccer crew that haven't yet realised Gaelic football is a far quicker game - you cannot show 6 replays of a recent effort on goal or foul, as the ball is most likely long since back in play and quite often play has progressed enough that a scoring attempt is in process. The Down Monaghan game was chronic for missing the action due to replays.
I think MS is trying too hard. I think he'd be better served (at least till he finds his feet) by just concentrating on calling the game rather than trying to commentate, offer opinion on play and wisecrack.
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 02, 2012, 02:23:40 PM
Canning is an annoying tool, but Daragh Maloney is by far the best commentator on GAA I've heard this year.
I don't mind any of the RTÉ three - maybe I don't listen to them often enough to become annoyed with their flaws (every commentator has them).
Quote from: Take Your Points on July 01, 2012, 06:16:37 PM
Possibly the worst but typical of the BBC pundits when McHugh said that there would be 'a lot of goal kicks', he was referring to the goalkeepers kicking the ball out not shots on goal.
Sidebottom is the soccer equivalent of Tommy smith, pure and utter shite!
I hate Jackie Fullerton.
Jesus the BBC can fair do it . . . that Andrew Castle lad from the Tennis yesterday just reminded me of Sidebottom every time he spoke!
That reminds me - Boris Becker. The Martin Carney of tennis. McEnroe analyses, informs and entertains - brilliant co-commentator. Boris gives us shrewd observations like - "break point for the Swiss" - even though the score is on the screen and it even has a caption saying "break point". (He kept calling Fereder "The Swiss"!) Or insights like "all square again", "<whoever> must win this game" when he's defending a match point, etc. The high point of his analysis for the fortnight, however, was when the camera showed some bloke in the crowd. Boris: "nice light blue tie".
That 'bloke' was McEnroe. FFS.
Quote from: ONeill on July 09, 2012, 10:37:47 AM
That 'bloke' was McEnroe. FFS.
It was . . . did he not say something like "Nice blue tie . . . what a champion!"
It was totally cringey!!
Sidebottom does alot of soccer commentary in the Irish League, a bit like Ger Ganning and Darragh Maloney doing commentary during euro 12... its sounds all wrong. Maloney was presenting one night and the next day he was doing Cork- Tipp in the munster hurling, Pay the tv bills to listen to that muck.
Quote from: screenexile on July 09, 2012, 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 09, 2012, 10:37:47 AM
That 'bloke' was McEnroe. FFS.
It was . . . did he not say something like "Nice blue tie . . . what a champion!"
It was totally cringey!!
One of the greatest players or something like that. Becker likes to play up to the arrogant persona bestowed upon him by the Brits. Talks a lot about his ego as if it's funny. Also rides women in cupboards.
i have not real all this but is there Really 30 pages here devoted to a critque of Mark sidebottom??? FFS.
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 09, 2012, 10:43:10 AM
Sidebottom does alot of soccer commentary in the Irish League, a bit like Ger Ganning and Darragh Maloney doing commentary during euro 12... its sounds all wrong. Maloney was presenting one night and the next day he was doing Cork- Tipp in the munster hurling, Pay the tv bills to listen to that muck.
As far as I know Maloney has been a football commentator long before he did the GAA and is a regular presenter of RTE's Premiership programme. He commentates on both well so I don't see what the problem is!
Quote from: rosnarun on July 09, 2012, 10:51:22 AM
i have not real all this but is there Really 30 pages here devoted to a critque of Mark sidebottom??? FFS.
No.
Why just on this page alone we have boris becker and darragh maloney being discussed;
only in gaaboardland eh :)
Maloney was doing the soccer commentary before Gaelic yeah, but surely they could have people for GAA and Soccer in RTE without covering both, i'm a big fan of both sports, maybe they like variety in RTE.
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 09, 2012, 12:03:29 PM
Maloney was doing the soccer commentary before Gaelic yeah, but surely they could have people for GAA and Soccer in RTE without covering both, i'm a big fan of both sports, maybe they like variety in RTE.
One commentator covering all manner of sports (like Barry Davies) is much more cost-effective. There is recession on or have you not noticed ;)
Quote from: ONeill on July 09, 2012, 10:37:47 AM
That 'bloke' was McEnroe. FFS.
Yeah - forgot it was McEnroe.It was the unbelievable comment that was memorable.
Recession is a foreign word around Cavan ???
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 09, 2012, 12:03:29 PM
but surely they could have people for GAA and Soccer in RTE without covering both, i'm a big fan of both sports, maybe they like variety in RTE.
Why?
What if the man/woman likes both sports and likes to commentate on both?
Should RTÉ just say - nope, sorry, no can do in line with the RodneyTrotter policy of one sport per commentator? :P ;D
Ha, i'm not saying they mightn't like covering both sports.
Just giving my opinion that i don't like Ganning on commentary for soccer etc. We all have an opinion at the end of the day, i wouldn't expect RTE to change over what rodney trotter said ;D
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 09, 2012, 10:43:10 AM
Sidebottom does alot of soccer commentary in the Irish League, a bit like Ger Ganning and Darragh Maloney doing commentary during euro 12... its sounds all wrong. Maloney was presenting one night and the next day he was doing Cork- Tipp in the munster hurling, Pay the tv bills to listen to that muck.
+1
As have no TV3 in the house was forrced to watch the Ulster Final on BBC. I never realised how bad Sidebottom was, in a way his rambling ruined the game for me, cringeworthy stuff. He kept shouting down Oisín and at one point when he was about to make some point, Sidebottom shouted him down to talk about some aul fellas hat in the crowd. The same stat was repeated over and over again, he just talks utter pish. Never will I put up with him again, to the pub, the radio or just turn the sound off from now on
BBC haven't got it right since jimmy Smith and Pete mcg done it, you could have listened to that pair all day. Sidebottom is poor, all these one liners that have little relevance during the game. Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh a experienced commenter who knew when to use them, although never hear him talk about bees lol. the one with teddy McCarthy is class though!its got hard to listen on rte too.
I saw Paddy Bradley going towards the old stand in Thurles yesterday, but did not recognise the lad with him. Am I right it thinking that it was the legendary Mark Sidebottom.
Would say so, they were both in Hayes' after the game
And in the BBC commentary box during it.
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 22, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
Would say so, they were both in Hayes' after the game
Hayes was full of Antrim fans before the game. Good spot.
Must have made a fortune.
Best one yesterday..."easy peasy it's dummy time". On seeing a Donegal bedecked tot.
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 23, 2012, 10:28:23 AM
Best one yesterday..."easy peasy it's dummy time". On seeing a Donegal bedecked tot.
to add to that, on seeing another dummy,
"there're no suckers"
why does he always have to talk about dates? and who scored the 1st point 30 years ago? ffs hes worse than motty
Probably as he has no real insight into the game so decides to blitz wikipedia before the game and if in doubt attempt to be funny/come off with some pun
Just wear less make-up next time lads. I had to adjust the contrast.
Quote from: Take Your Points on July 23, 2012, 07:28:28 PM
BTW who was the well known Ulster coach that M McHugh alleged had helped the J O'Connor and the Kerry squad at a special 3 hour session in Dublin midweek before they went out and hammered Tyrone?
Seems strange that the same person could not have been brought/bought to Kerry to do the same job unless he was otherwise fully engaged in the Dublin area and unavailable to travel.
Love the way mchugh comes out with this ground breaking stuff as if he was about to tell us all the world biggest hidden secret, he used to be great for little stories years ago.
Top ulster coach that went to dublin? any from paddy o rourke, ross carr, dj kane, or wee james
Has mark a twitter page like Marty morrisey?
Quote from: rrhf on July 23, 2012, 11:08:40 PM
Has mark a twitter page like Marty morrisey?
Now that would be an outlet for O'Neill / Olly.
Has to be done.
Discussion on Radio Ulster regarding qualifiers,Adrian McGuckian rightly says Down will be hopin for Mayo,Sidebottom says Down will be hoping for Laois in the next round......awkward silence!!!
Thomas Niblock commentating on live coverage of Mayo v Down, Sidebottom on Donegal v Kerry on Sunday.
BBC showing either?
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 01, 2012, 06:59:06 PM
BBC showing either?
bbc showing both the down and donegal games live. hopefully showing 2 ulster wins.
Sidebum being his usual shamblic self on commentary. Has called three things wrong already, twice when Star kept the ball in when he said he wouldnt get there, and once when he called a clearly weak Kerry shot over the bar 3 seconds before it dropped into the keepers hands.
Quote from: Collins on August 05, 2012, 04:32:22 PM
Sidebum being his usual shamblic self on commentary. Has called three things wrong already, twice when Star kept the ball in when he said he wouldnt get there, and once when he called a clearly weak Kerry shot over the bar 3 seconds before it dropped into the keepers hands.
Oiin getting fedup with him!
Hes more worried about other sports than gaa. TUBE
Donegal are playing Chess, Kerry are playing Draughts apparently
Quote from: Collins on August 05, 2012, 05:08:32 PM
Donegal are playing Chess, Kerry are playing Draughts apparently
Aye laughed out loud at that one, Wife was wondering what i was watching from the kitchen, Chess, Draughts or Football!!
Oisin's silence was golden. Then Sidebum had to say to him, do you take my point? ;D
Oisin then went on to talk about something else altogether.
Do you lads need new batteries in your remote control?
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 05, 2012, 05:23:59 PM
Do you lads need new batteries in your remote control?
Why put him on mute when you can listen and laugh?
You could turn over to TV3
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:19:07 PM
Quote from: Collins on August 05, 2012, 05:08:32 PM
Donegal are playing Chess, Kerry are playing Draughts apparently
Aye laughed out loud at that one, Wife was wondering what i was watching from the kitchen, Chess, Draughts or Football!!
He wouldnt let it go though!! He was obviously delighted with his analogy, so kept bringing it up for the rest of the game!
I must say, I hadn't really had a strong opinion either way til this year, but Oisin is very good
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 05, 2012, 05:26:02 PM
You could turn over to TV3
Ffs, you dont really think we just watch it for the craic? Cant get network 2 or tv3 in belfast unless have package
Oisin is excellent and oddly makes a decent foil for mark. Cavanagh is getting better. prefer to see him doing his talking when his playing days are over.
Jesus, cavanagh is brutal. You'd wonder how players at the level he is could have such a poor appreciation of the game tactically as well.
I can usually just about listen to Sidey but today I had to turn it over to TV3 and a worse picture. Cringeworthy stuff in the extreme. His patter about Wyatt Earp and the OK coral was without doubt the worst piece of commentary I have ever heard. Brutal and made my hangover manifest itself into a fit of angst. Terrible commentator.
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 05, 2012, 08:26:21 PM
Jesus, cavanagh is brutal. You'd wonder how players at the level he is could have such a poor appreciation of the game tactically as well.
Probably because he never has an appreciation of what is going in round him on the pitch. He thinks its the sean cavanagh show, and probably thinks the same now hes in a studio ffs.
I wrote down a few of his clinkers today and i'll stick them up but thought this sums him up completely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcUQyIZicRw
He annoys me soooooooo much but I feel compelled to listen to his shite!! More the fool me.
agree with mopst of above, but what really pisses me off is his constant portrayal that ''its over'' when a team goes 4 points up, theres 20 minutes to go you f**king idiot,
Quote from: chocoholic on August 06, 2012, 12:48:30 AM
I wrote down a few of his clinkers today and i'll stick them up but thought this sums him up completely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcUQyIZicRw
He annoys me soooooooo much but I feel compelled to listen to his shite!! More the fool me.
Hahaah that is shocking lol!!!!!!!!
Compare the pic at the end of mark mcHugh and look at the size of him now!!! Massive difference
Apres Match - "Discussion on Radio Ulster regarding qualifiers, Adrian McGuckian rightly says Down will be hopin for Mayo, Sidebottom says Down will be hoping for Laois in the next round......awkward silence!!!"
Sidebottom got one right then as Down would have been better off looking for Laois than getting obliterated by the Mayo men....:)
Quote from: Scarface on August 07, 2012, 02:21:14 PM
Apres Match - "Discussion on Radio Ulster regarding qualifiers, Adrian McGuckian rightly says Down will be hopin for Mayo, Sidebottom says Down will be hoping for Laois in the next round......awkward silence!!!"
Sidebottom got one right then as Down would have been better off looking for Laois than getting obliterated by the Mayo men....:)
Whoops!!!
Quote from: Scarface on August 07, 2012, 02:21:14 PM
Apres Match - "Discussion on Radio Ulster regarding qualifiers, Adrian McGuckian rightly says Down will be hopin for Mayo, Sidebottom says Down will be hoping for Laois in the next round......awkward silence!!!"
Sidebottom got one right then as Down would have been better off looking for Laois than getting obliterated by the Mayo men....:)
I don't get it.
Here's a wee list from what I remember listening to Sidebottom on Sunday. He must sit up to all hours thinking these alliterations and phrases up. Probably more the saddo me for writing them down but sure here's a few of what I thought were part of the cringefest commentary:
"He's been as cool as the Atlantic drift".
Re: Jack O'Connor, "If this was the OK Corral, we know who has blinked first and it's not Wyatt Earp McGuinness".
"It could come back to haunt them like Banshee from the Kingdom".
"Toye by name and he really is toying with them".
"This year, Donegal have been playing Chess while everyone have been playing Draughts".
"It's not over until........ (pause) ................" - Sidebottom. "It's over" - Óisín McConville.
McConville says "Donegal are starting to wobble". Sidebottom replies, "Donegal are starting to wobble".
His worst by far was this:
Sidebottom: Gooch not at his game today.
McConville: The ball's not going into him at all.
Sidebottom: Well then I would say that he should go out and look for it then.
McConville: I'm sure Jack O'Connor wouldn't want him out rummaging around midfield, they need him up front feeding off good quality ball"
Sidebottom: Right enough, you're 100%.
Quote from: chocoholic on August 07, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: Scarface on August 07, 2012, 02:21:14 PM
Apres Match - "Discussion on Radio Ulster regarding qualifiers, Adrian McGuckian rightly says Down will be hopin for Mayo, Sidebottom says Down will be hoping for Laois in the next round......awkward silence!!!"
Sidebottom got one right then as Down would have been better off looking for Laois than getting obliterated by the Mayo men....:)
I don't get it.
It was impossible for Down to get Laois Choc...
I've heard that much shite from Sidebottom that I don't even know if he said this at the weekend or if I made it up but did he make some reference after someone had kicked a point referring to them as, 'He's as cool as a cruise going up the Mississippi' or something along those lines. I don't even know where I would start to imagine where or what inspired him to say that. As cool as a cucumber, as cold as ice, ice running through his veins - anything at all like that and it would be grand and not dwelled upon, but no he has to be as cool as a cruise going up the Mississipi. When I think of Mississipi I think of floods, alligators and Gene Hackman!?!
I have to admit the chess one got me, he kept bringing it up and McConville just kept blanking him. I think he even asked him at one stage, you have to accept my analogy of Donegal playing chess...
It's a sorry state of affairs when the best bit of BBC commentary is when McConville says nothing after Sidebottom, just sits there and then Sidebottom just has to amble back into general commentary until the next load of horse dung falls from his mouth.
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 08, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 07, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: Scarface on August 07, 2012, 02:21:14 PM
Apres Match - "Discussion on Radio Ulster regarding qualifiers, Adrian McGuckian rightly says Down will be hopin for Mayo, Sidebottom says Down will be hoping for Laois in the next round......awkward silence!!!"
Sidebottom got one right then as Down would have been better off looking for Laois than getting obliterated by the Mayo men....:)
I don't get it.
It was impossible for Down to get Laois Choc...
Ahhhhh. :-D A sidebottom moment for me there too then!!
Screen, he definitely used "he's been as cool as the Atlantic drift", which incidentally isn't cool. It's actually a warm current which sweeps past Ireland and keeps us warm in the winter as far as I remember!!
He definitely made the Mississippi Cruise comment but I think it referred to a sequence of play where McGlynn was soloing out of defence and was completely irrelevant to the circumstances (if it ever could anyway!)
It really is beyond me how Sidebottom still has this job and I can't understand how anyone finds him funny in the slightest. A few posters have already put up some of the ridiculous lines he came out with Sunday and those are only a small sample of the crap that came out of his mouth over the course of 70 odd minutes.
He completely ruined the game for me and managed to suck any drama out of the last ten minutes due to his constant need to be heard.
First of all, somebody needs to tell him that TV commentary is not the same as radio and that he doesn't need to talk relentlessly.
Secondly, he needs to be told that McConville, or whoever is alongside him, is there as the analyst and Sidebottom's only duty is talk about what is happening, not what should be happening or what might happen. Instead of giving McConville time to talk, Sidebottom instead would come up with what he thought was some excellent tactical insight and ask McConville to agree with him. The problem is Sidebottom doesn't have a clue about tactics or strategies and sounds like the average man in the pub who has been given a microphone. I actually felt sorry for McConville during that game and it was clear for all who were watching that he wasn't enjoying listening to Sidebottom throughout. He made clear his disdain for Sidebottom the day before when after the Down game he said to Sidebottom, who was presenting in the studio, 'the one positive from today was that Thomas Niblock was excellent on commentary'.
Thirdly, I counted four instances in the first ten minutes where Sidebottom called the wrong name for a player in possession or committing a foul. He also brought up a couple of pieces of trivia which were also inaccurate such as Neil McGee being Eamonn's older brother and talking about remembering a Christy Toye goal against Armagh at the opposite end of the ground at which it was scored.
Finally, somebody needs to tell Sidebottom to leave out the terrible sayings as we aren't watching the match to listen to him. He is there to supplement or facilitate the game not to ruin it which is exactly what he is doing.
I don't think he is capable of improving so if you're reading this Mark, or if somebody with some power at BBC NI is reading this, please put Sidebottom in a different role.
Your anger is palpable!! :-)
Quote from: mccool85 on August 11, 2012, 12:27:00 PM
It really is beyond me how Sidebottom still has this job and I can't understand how anyone finds him funny in the slightest. A few posters have already put up some of the ridiculous lines he came out with Sunday and those are only a small sample of the crap that came out of his mouth over the course of 70 odd minutes.
He completely ruined the game for me and managed to suck any drama out of the last ten minutes due to his constant need to be heard.
First of all, somebody needs to tell him that TV commentary is not the same as radio and that he doesn't need to talk relentlessly.
Secondly, he needs to be told that McConville, or whoever is alongside him, is there as the analyst and Sidebottom's only duty is talk about what is happening, not what should be happening or what might happen. Instead of giving McConville time to talk, Sidebottom instead would come up with what he thought was some excellent tactical insight and ask McConville to agree with him. The problem is Sidebottom doesn't have a clue about tactics or strategies and sounds like the average man in the pub who has been given a microphone. I actually felt sorry for McConville during that game and it was clear for all who were watching that he wasn't enjoying listening to Sidebottom throughout. He made clear his disdain for Sidebottom the day before when after the Down game he said to Sidebottom, who was presenting in the studio, 'the one positive from today was that Thomas Niblock was excellent on commentary'.
Thirdly, I counted four instances in the first ten minutes where Sidebottom called the wrong name for a player in possession or committing a foul. He also brought up a couple of pieces of trivia which were also inaccurate such as Neil McGee being Eamonn's older brother and talking about remembering a Christy Toye goal against Armagh at the opposite end of the ground at which it was scored.
Finally, somebody needs to tell Sidebottom to leave out the terrible sayings as we aren't watching the match to listen to him. He is there to supplement or facilitate the game not to ruin it which is exactly what he is doing.
I don't think he is capable of improving so if you're reading this Mark, or if somebody with some power at BBC NI is reading this, please put Sidebottom in a different role.
Poor Mark!!
I would beg to differ. i thought the commentary at the end of the Donegal/Kildare game conveyed the excitement and pressure of what is happening on the pitch. OK his analogies are crap some times but he does have a little passion. In fact he is certainly better than Ger Canning on RTE. The TV3 guy is good though. Canavan and McConville are good analysts.
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 14, 2012, 10:52:23 AM
I would beg to differ. i thought the commentary at the end of the Donegal/Kildare game conveyed the excitement and pressure of what is happening on the pitch. OK his analogies are crap some times but he does have a little passion. In fact he is certainly better than Ger Canning on RTE. The TV3 guy is good though. Canavan and McConville are good analysts.
Totally disagree. It's lack of passion that is his main problem. Trying too hard to be funny and tries to show how he knows the players nick names etc
To me he sounded like a slow paced soccer/rugby or golf commentator shoe horned into the more demanding role of GAA commentry, so I was surprised to hear he was a former club hurler from Antrim. He's the only commentator that I feel the need to turn down the TV
Daragh Maloney on RTE is the best around at the minute.
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 14, 2012, 02:20:15 PM
Daragh Maloney on RTE is the best around at the minute.
Totally agree
Maloney is the best, bt I'd still have Sidey over Morrissey or Canning, they would make any game seem dull.
Came accross this today - McDonnell's winner in 2002, a huge moment in GAA, Canning couldn't sound any less excited!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVxhJpqzNXw
Quote from: southdown on August 17, 2012, 04:59:29 PM
Came accross this today - McDonnell's winner in 2002, a huge moment in GAA, Canning couldn't sound any less excited!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVxhJpqzNXw
In fairness to Canning, if i remember correctly, this point was scored in the 63rd minute, so there was over 7 minutes left to play - he prob didnt think it would be the last score.
Armagh ground it out to win, although kerry had a number of chances to equalise - the nearest was aidan mcgaralts shot that just curled outside the post.
Mark's sums not good. Said fella had 23 points this summer then after a free moved him up to 25 ::)
Sidebum is a good journalist. He is a good presenter of sport on TV. Ive heard that he is an extremely nice fella.
And you know what, he probably could be a good commentator if he cut out all the oul unnecessary shite. He seems to think people are watching to be entertained by his incredibly bad puns, mixed metaphors, stupid use of nicknames and tactical expertise.
Just describe what is happening. That is all. And stay silent every now and again.
Quote from: Collins on September 23, 2012, 04:57:23 PM
Sidebum is a good journalist. He is a good presenter of sport on TV. Ive heard that he is an extremely nice fella.
And you know what, he probably could be a good commentator if he cut out all the oul unnecessary shite. He seems to think people are watching to be entertained by his incredibly bad puns, mixed metaphors, stupid use of nicknames and tactical expertise.
Just describe what is happening. That is all. And stay silent every now and again.
He could have done with cutting out his awful rendition of Jimmy's winning matches too :o ;D
Quote from: southdown on August 17, 2012, 04:59:29 PM
Came accross this today - McDonnell's winner in 2002, a huge moment in GAA, Canning couldn't sound any less excited!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVxhJpqzNXw
Arguably the funniest thing in that clip is the Down man going mental at the end...
He was actually an Armagh man. He wore the jersey as a lucky omen given that, at that time, Down had never lost an All Ireland final.
'he's as cool as the other side of the pillow'. another classic from sidebottom today talking about mcfadden after he had converted a free.
Quote from: SHEEDY on September 23, 2012, 08:40:19 PM
'he's as cool as the other side of the pillow'. another classic from sidebottom today talking about mcfadden after he had converted a free.
I liked that
What do the Donegal players not like on their burgers?
Mayo.
:-\
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 23, 2012, 05:30:07 PM
Quote from: Collins on September 23, 2012, 04:57:23 PM
Sidebum is a good journalist. He is a good presenter of sport on TV. Ive heard that he is an extremely nice fella.
And you know what, he probably could be a good commentator if he cut out all the oul unnecessary shite. He seems to think people are watching to be entertained by his incredibly bad puns, mixed metaphors, stupid use of nicknames and tactical expertise.
Just describe what is happening. That is all. And stay silent every now and again.
He could have done with cutting out his awful rendition of Jimmy's winning matches too :o ;D
That was one of the most cringeworthy things ever heard on this planet. He even got the words wrong.
Mark was in some form at the end of the Loughgiel match on Saturday. I was listening to the game on the radio and he was fairly excited.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21410113
Keep er lit Mark the boyya. The poor oul craters listening in gto see how the Irish Cup results were goin wouldnt know where the hell all that came from. Pure Heart and Soul Stuff - God help us all if it were the Glenariff Oisins!
Feck the begrudgers.
Quote from: give her dixie on February 11, 2013, 07:19:10 PM
Mark was in some form at the end of the Loughgiel match on Saturday. I was listening to the game on the radio and he was fairly excited.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21410113
Class.
Hope his GP has him on good heart medication though.
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 11, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on February 11, 2013, 07:19:10 PM
Mark was in some form at the end of the Loughgiel match on Saturday. I was listening to the game on the radio and he was fairly excited.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21410113
Class.
Hope his GP has him on good heart medication though.
Sounded like his batteries were running out after all the shouting.
Quote from: give her dixie on February 11, 2013, 07:19:10 PM
Mark was in some form at the end of the Loughgiel match on Saturday. I was listening to the game on the radio and he was fairly excited.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21410113
Class stuff Mark
Quote from: bannside on February 11, 2013, 08:02:09 PM
Keep er lit Mark the boyya. The poor oul craters listening in gto see how the Irish Cup results were goin wouldnt know where the hell all that came from. Pure Heart and Soul Stuff - God help us all if it were the Glenariff Oisins!
Feck the begrudgers.
I always had him down as Cushendun myself..
Tosh is Oisins for sure.
Quote from: give her dixie on February 11, 2013, 07:19:10 PM
Mark was in some form at the end of the Loughgiel match on Saturday. I was listening to the game on the radio and he was fairly excited.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21410113
brilliant stuff. the best match for drama and excitement iv seen in ages.
Haha, great stuff. Not often you'd see so much passion from a commentator (even if it was a bit biased)
Quote from: johnneycool on February 12, 2013, 01:03:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 11, 2013, 08:02:09 PM
Keep er lit Mark the boyya. The poor oul craters listening in gto see how the Irish Cup results were goin wouldnt know where the hell all that came from. Pure Heart and Soul Stuff - God help us all if it were the Glenariff Oisins!
Feck the begrudgers.
I always had him down as Cushendun myself..
Tosh is Oisins for sure.
No he played for us for a good few years.
Saw the extra time great match. Say what you like about Mark the gra for the ga is evident in every word!
Quote from: Applesisapples on February 13, 2013, 10:16:36 AM
Saw the extra time great match. Say what you like about Mark the gra for the ga is evident in every word!
The bollox just wants another session in the Pound bar, thought he was going to miss out until Winker (not that one) stuck 'er in the onion bag.
;D
He was slightly easier on the ear today and much better than anything on RTE.
He was fecking awful as usual. Dirge was endless. Take a breath mark
He was nearly as bad as that asshole Burns who mentioned in his half time analysis the fact that Cavan played with two half backs in their half forward line, including Jack Brady. The aforementioned Brady came on with less than 10 minutes to go :o
Obviously busy rather then watching the first half to see who was actually playing :-[
I think it was actually Killian Brady he said, who was the replacement for Jack Brady. Brady Flanagan and Mackey were the 3 he mentioned.
Another bad day at the office for Mark. Doesn't appear to know that his job is to commentate on the match to keep viewers informed, not to provide 'analysis' or opinion or spout off reams of alliterative crap, instead of trying to describe the action in a way which makes it interesteing and exciting. Some of the painful silences excruciating.
Also has the happy knack of dropping his co-commentator neck deep in shit 3 or 4 times every game, you could almost hear McConville's eyebrows yesterday at another 'yet again' moment.
What no Sidearse? :D
He seemed to be walking the line today in a continuity man role. Keep up this thread and you all might just get him the boot :-\
Easier to listen to Martin McHugh
He did alright today.
The man makes me cringe sometimes. Although he has spells where it is completely hilarious eg cassidys point v kildare injury time in 2011 CASSIDYYYYYYYYY!
Great to have Mark back on commentary today.
Even better to see Owen Mulligan,complete with a Gok Wan makeover,leave his nocturnal couch in the middle of the road in Cookstown to assume the role of pundit.
Best of all however,in all modesty,was my tweet of the day! ;D
The GAA's Jackie Fullerton!
Thomas Kane?? Is kat, what's with the eyeliner? Alice cooper wud be proud.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 23, 2013, 09:28:47 PM
Thomas Kane?? Is kat, what's with the eyeliner? Alice cooper wud be proud.
Eyeliner??
Sidebottom does come out with some cringeworthy stuff. First time i've heard him in a while.
He's at it again....who the fcuk is Peadar Durcan?
Born to run? pity we didnt run into him last nite lol
'Boom boom shake the room' - what?!?!?! Never thought i would hear that used on commentary in an Ulster Final!
Porridge and strawberries. ::)
he took the biscuit with the cows utters will not be milked at the hughes farm,where the hell u ever hear that in a football match!!
Bad as Sidey is, he is better than anything on offer on TV3.
Quote from: tyroneboi on July 21, 2013, 04:30:47 PM
'Boom boom shake the room' - what?!?!?! Never thought i would hear that used on commentary in an Ulster Final!
A tribute to Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, no doubt.
Spoke Irish at the start, is he a Gaelgoir? If he is that's three languages he's fluent in ... English, Irish and utter bullshit
Martin McHugh beforehand saying that Armagh shouldn't have taken their goal chances against Leitrim, and instead should have opted for points. Holy Christ.
Mark is in some form today.....
Did I actually hear him say that Donegal 'need a lick of paint'?
To be fair to him, he does talk some shite, especially when there's a break in play and he fills the time with some drivel.
Could be worse, he could have Martin Carney as a sidekick.
Why do youse all annoy yourselves by listening when there is a choice?
Quote from: Any craic on August 04, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Why do youse all annoy yourselves by listening when there is a choice?
There's no choice if you can't get TV3.
Quote from: Maguire01 on August 04, 2013, 09:09:24 PM
Quote from: Any craic on August 04, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Why do youse all annoy yourselves by listening when there is a choice?
There's no choice if you can't get TV3.
Even if you can get TV3, there's still no choice.
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on August 04, 2013, 09:09:24 PM
Quote from: Any craic on August 04, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Why do youse all annoy yourselves by listening when there is a choice?
There's no choice if you can't get TV3.
Even if you can get TV3, there's still no choice.
What if you can get TV3, BBC, RTE and UTV but are indecisive. Surely you have no choice there either?
Please review the Thomas Kane "walk and talk" section.
They half got away with Shay Given/Oisin one, but the Derry selector interview and the Tony Donnelly one last week was cringe telly.
A simple standing still interview will do.
Just finished watching the BBC show there. I actually missed Sidebottom's commentary today. The other boy today was worse. Much worse.
Quote from: upmonaghansayswe on May 25, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
Please review the Thomas Kane "walk and talk" section.
They half got away with Shay Given/Oisin one, but the Derry selector interview and the Tony Donnelly one last week was cringe telly.
A simple standing still interview will do.
He loves a walking interview. And the questions he is asks are either blatantly obvious or else cringe worthy.
Agree, we're only interested in their views, not their ability to dodge obstacles.
What about schooteacher Peter Canavan today saying he played "agin" Dessie Mone? FFs any wonder kids leave school up here semi illiterate?
Martin Mchugh said the word 'interesting' about 25 times before I lost patience and turned over to rte. His grammar, syntax and sentence formation is atrocious. It's as if his brain is moving too fast for his mouth. 'I seen..' is another favourite. I thought he was going to have an orgasm when his mate sent him a text that Conor Clarke was the ball boy.
...are atrocious
Who was that commentator today? He was a real laugh.
"Baseball hats are all the rage here in Clones today, They keep your face from getting sunburnt"
Anyone know what is happening to him today?
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on June 22, 2014, 02:50:55 PM
Anyone know what is happening to him today?
Sidey was on the radio today, presenting, not commentating and he wasn't too bad. Maybe he has found his niche.
Quote from: Agent Orange on June 29, 2014, 10:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on June 22, 2014, 02:50:55 PM
Anyone know what is happening to him today?
Sidey was on the radio today, presenting, not commentating and he wasn't too bad. Maybe he has found his niche.
He started on radio