The mayo posters have gone very quiet around here after the thriller in croke park so lets get the ball rolling again.I would not be expecting a victory but I would like to see a competive game with Mayo being in contention coming towards the end.
Cork sold us a pup in last years league game. We though we were moving in the right direction but came crashing down to reality in croker. I doubt they'll be as generous this time around. Anyway, it would be more exciting to have a winner take all senario against Mongahan on the final day of the schedule.
Quote from: boosabum on March 29, 2011, 11:34:33 AM
Cork sold us a pup in last years league game. We though we were moving in the right direction but came crashing down to reality in croker. I doubt they'll be as generous this time around. Anyway, it would be more exciting to have a winner take all senario against Mongahan on the final day of the schedule.
Id say there could be a big game in this Mayo team, certainly there are a few players that should lift their game and prove themselves after the Dublin match. Id expect a Cork win, but I wouldnt write off Mayo as we are battling for division 1 status in our last couple of games.
Again there is still a lot of questions Mayo need to answer, so where as I see a strong team lining out I would still expect a few experiments.
Quote from: maigheo on March 29, 2011, 01:18:29 AM
The mayo posters have gone very quiet around here
Indeed, our green & red neighbours wouldn't want to in Division 4 playing the like of London,Kilkenny
A home game vs the All Ireland champions should wet the appetite for any supporter.
Quote from: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: maigheo on March 29, 2011, 01:18:29 AM
The mayo posters have gone very quiet around here
Indeed, our green & red neighbours wouldn't want to in Division 4 playing the like of London,Kilkenny
A home game vs the All Ireland champions should wet the appetite for any supporter.
Whet are you on about?
Quote from: muppet on March 29, 2011, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: maigheo on March 29, 2011, 01:18:29 AM
The mayo posters have gone very quiet around here
Indeed, our green & red neighbours wouldn't want to in Division 4 playing the like of London,Kilkenny
A home game vs the All Ireland champions should wet the appetite for any supporter.
Whet are you on about?
They drool a lot in Ros...
Not that Ross, but it's the manner of the defeat the last day which has to be stopped. Jesus Christ every game this year in the league we start slow. We have to start well on Sunday at least. Put it up to them, with a bit of fight for the game. I hope and pray McGarrity starts becasue he's been our most effective midfielder this year anyway. If not, we're in for a hiding I reckon. And it could go downhill if we don't get something out of this game. Monaghan away isn't for the feint hearted and I'm kind of worried if we lose heavily on Sunday which isn't impossible that we will ship another heavy defeat to Monaghan especially as it's in Inniskeen.
Or maybe I'm being too negative and Mayo will come out all guns blazing against Cork and surprise me and win our final two games.
We'll have a good first half on Sunday and be terrible in the second half.
As long as Mayo are competitive I can accept whatever happens. They appear to be short of the tough fellas at the back to be winners but on the day anything can happen. At least we have real forwards this time. :-\
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on March 29, 2011, 11:29:34 PM
We'll have a good first half on Sunday and be terrible in the second half.
Amazing prediction! Whats your reckoning? :P
So what odds are Mayo to score first, lead at half time and Cork to win?
Is Seamus O Shea fit?
Cork have a lot of big men and will probably have 70% possesion of the ball. The Mayo midfield will need to have a stormer just to gain parity. With all the cork players moving towards goal and based on the defending (the whole team) against Dublin last time out, it could be a tough day at the office for Mayo. Even the worst of cork teams in the past seem to be able to cope with us easily.
Cork have a good few injuries and you could see 3 or 4 players having their first league start, cork won't be complacent after the galway game Counihan reamed them out. With mayo at home it will be close...
Team could be
F Lynch
D Gould
Goulding
F Gould
P o'neil
Kerrigan
Alan o'connor
james Fitzpatrick
Kissane
N o'leary
Kiely
Carey
Cadogan
Shields
Halloran
Mayo team v Cork
Robert Hennelly
Tom Cunniffe
Cathal Hallinan
Keith Higgins
Richie Feeney
Ger Cafferkey
James Burke
Jason Gibbons
Aidan O'Shea
Kevin McLoughlin
Andy Moran
Alan Dillon
Enda Varley
Alan Freeman
Jason Doherty
At least that's what I think the team will be.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on March 30, 2011, 10:01:17 PM
Mayo team v Cork
Robert Hennelly
Tom Cunniffe
Cathal Hallinan
Keith Higgins
Richie Feeney
Ger Cafferkey
James Burke
Jason Gibbons
Aidan O'Shea
Kevin McLoughlin
Andy Moran
Alan Dillon
Enda Varley
Alan Freeman
Jason Doherty
At least that's what I think the team will be.
Eh? Well if it is I would be happy enough. If McGarrity is injured and Seamus O Sé ( our no1 midfield pair if fit imo) still needing time this is probably as good a midfield as we can get out. AOS has recent form against Aidan Walsh as well. The rest of the team has a decent balanced look about it on paper at least providing a bit of switching is done around 10, 11 and 12. There are still question marks about our managing a game - regardless who we select. We ll know a bit more by Sunday night. Really Mayo should have ambitions to win this one. Cork are clearly swinging the lead - and who would blame them. Their season doesn't start until August and they ll only have to get it right for a couple of games to win Sam again. Counihan might have bollocked them after Galway but it would have only been because he was expected to be annoyed. I d say really he s thrilled. Beating teams in their bedroom slippers. Goin through the motions. I don t expect Cork to be any better against us.
I don't agree with you about playing McLoughlin at 12. I know we've had this debate before but he's not a prolific enough kicker to be able to swing them over on the outside at 12 the way Dooher and Galvin can do at 10. Maybe Andy and Dillon are interchangeable.
I'd like to see McGarrity and S O'Shea tried too but can't say it is our best midfield because I don't know that they've ever played together.
Of course a much different team might go out because Horan might still want to trial some guys but I think he has had enough of a look at most players, except guys coming back from injury (S O'Shea, Howley, Vaughan, B Moran) and then Aidan O'Shea out the field, where he hasn't played him yet.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on March 31, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
I don't agree with you about playing McLoughlin at 12. I know we've had this debate before but he's not a prolific enough kicker to be able to swing them over on the outside at 12 the way Dooher and Galvin can do at 10. Maybe Andy and Dillon are interchangeable.
I'd like to see McGarrity and S O'Shea tried too but can't say it is our best midfield because I don't know that they've ever played together.
Of course a much different team might go out because Horan might still want to trial some guys but I think he has had enough of a look at most players, except guys coming back from injury (S O'Shea, Howley, Vaughan, B Moran) and then Aidan O'Shea out the field, where he hasn't played him yet.
Probably coming from different perspective as regards McLoughlin. i see him as a player that gives us width/shapeand links first and foremost and i would prefer to have a leftie behind him as well. Our teams lack proper width and are too easily defended against most of the time. My choice for a player coming onto his left from the 'wrong' side would be Campbell at 10. Going out on a limb here but I suspect McL is more comfortable at 12 and will get more scores from there. At 10 he would be turning into traffic and if he goes outside, the tackler will be inside on his soloing foot.
McGar and SOS would have played little together alright but if you were looking for something that could work, based on their individual games, that combination looks good. I mean there is very little that could go wrong there while there would be big question marks about some other combinations. I liked SOS last year and McGar can be be one of the top midfielders around this year if he can stay fit.
Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2011, 12:43:53 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on March 31, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
I don't agree with you about playing McLoughlin at 12. I know we've had this debate before but he's not a prolific enough kicker to be able to swing them over on the outside at 12 the way Dooher and Galvin can do at 10. Maybe Andy and Dillon are interchangeable.
I'd like to see McGarrity and S O'Shea tried too but can't say it is our best midfield because I don't know that they've ever played together.
Of course a much different team might go out because Horan might still want to trial some guys but I think he has had enough of a look at most players, except guys coming back from injury (S O'Shea, Howley, Vaughan, B Moran) and then Aidan O'Shea out the field, where he hasn't played him yet.
Probably coming from different perspective as regards McLoughlin. i see him as a player that gives us width/shapeand links first and foremost and i would prefer to have a leftie behind him as well. Our teams lack proper width and are too easily defended against most of the time. My choice for a player coming onto his left from the 'wrong' side would be Campbell at 10. Going out on a limb here but I suspect McL is more comfortable at 12 and will get more scores from there. At 10 he would be turning into traffic and if he goes outside, the tackler will be inside on his soloing foot.
McGar and SOS would have played little together alright but if you were looking for something that could work, based on their individual games, that combination looks good. I mean there is very little that could go wrong there while there would be big question marks about some other combinations. I liked SOS last year and McGar can be be one of the top midfielders around this year if he can stay fit.
I see where you are coming from on McLoughlin but I'm not convinced myself. I guess we'll soon know if it is tried over a few games. By the way are you on a retainer for the Citeog Equality Group?! (I was going to call it Citeog Rights but . . . )
This has to be one of the quietest Mayo threads ever!!!
Any word on the team yet??
Five games in and we have yet to bring in a reliable freetaker - this is something we've lacked sinec MS retired and something we could badly do with.
Winning this game would secure Div 1 for us next if Monaghan don't get something out of the Kerry game. Difficult to see though, I have a feeling Cork will be able to up it a gear or two if needed in the last 15-20 minutes.
its a quiete one alright. maybe this recession thing is getting to lads and lasses. On a football note, Mayo will hardly win this one but should beat monaghan, hope that saves division 1 for us but not going to cry if we are demoted either.
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 01, 2011, 01:03:15 PM
This has to be one of the quietest Mayo threads ever!!!
Quote from: mannix on April 01, 2011, 01:44:05 PM
its a quiete one alright.
Is it the silence of the lambs before the slaughter?
Maybe so, but it is getting tense for Mayo supporters with the threat of demotion to division 2 looming. As well as that, with no team named; there is so many possibilities that not many are guessing what kind of team will line out. I think the experiments should continue and I would like to see Aidan O Shea at midfield or Center Forward and maybe the full back line rejigged again.
How are we for injuries and that? Who is back and who is out?
I dont know how fit Alan Feeney is after breaking his toe, and Cathal Hallinan could be down with the some illness.
Is Howley and Seamus O Shea back?
It's a funny one, I don't think anyone knows what team or performance to expect, so they're adopting a 'wait and see' approach.
In the last few years we've taken the league pretty seriously. This year, we're using it to look at new players and formations and I think the supporters are happy to allow that happen.
So nobody's getting too excited about our (solitary) win or our losses. Obviously we want to stay in Div 1 if possible, so if we lose to Cork this weekend, I think there'll be a lot more focus and discussion for the Monaghan match
C'mon the Rebels! We need something to play for on the last day!
QuoteC'mon the Rebels! We need something to play for on the last day!
G'wan ta f**k Mayo we need something to play for on the last day too!
Quote from: Tubberman on April 01, 2011, 03:23:31 PM
It's a funny one, I don't think anyone knows what team or performance to expect, so they're adopting a 'wait and see' approach.
In the last few years we've taken the league pretty seriously. This year, we're using it to look at new players and formations and I think the supporters are happy to allow that happen.
So nobody's getting too excited about our (solitary) win or our losses. Obviously we want to stay in Div 1 if possible, so if we lose to Cork this weekend, I think there'll be a lot more focus and discussion for the Monaghan match
There could be even more focus on the trip to london if there's no sign of a settled team coming together over the next 2 game
Quote from: AbbeySider on April 01, 2011, 02:57:09 PM
Is it the silence of the lambs before the slaughter?
I'm beginning to think it is!
I intend going to the game but was having a re-think as my plans are to go by rail from Hueston and return on the evening train.
I don't relish the thought of driving damn near across the whole of Dublin to make it for an 8.30 am start!
Now that the Mayo supporters here are coming back to life once more, I figure I'll make the journey. Don't know if the humour coming back will be any better than it will be going down but I'll just have to wait and see.
Keep the faith!
Quote from: AbbeySider on April 01, 2011, 02:57:09 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 01, 2011, 01:03:15 PM
This has to be one of the quietest Mayo threads ever!!!
Quote from: mannix on April 01, 2011, 01:44:05 PM
its a quiete one alright.
Is it the silence of the lambs before the slaughter?
Where playing Kilkenny this weekend so we should be fine ;)
The Cork Senior Football team to play Mayo in McHale Park, Castlebar, on Sunday at 2.30pm is as follows:
1. Ken O'Halloran
Bishopstown
2. Ray Carey 3. Jamie O'Sullivan 4. Michael Shields
Clyda Rovers Bishopstown St. Finbarr's
5. Sean Kiely 6. Noel O'Leary 7. Eoin Cadogan
Macroom Cill na Martra Douglas
8. Alan O'Connor 9. James Fitzpatrick
St. Colum's Carbery Rangers
10. Fintan Goold 11. Patrick Kelly 12. Pearse O'Neill
Macroom Ballincollig Aghada
13. Daniel Goulding 14. Fiachra Lynch 15. Donncha O'Connor
Eire Óg Valley Rovers Ballydesmond
Bad news for Cork and Colm o'Neil, cruciate gone season finished for him
Pa kelly did his hamstring 2 weeks ago so I don't think he will start.
Will Mayo have the same fullback as they had against Dublin? He looked a bit small to me,
Fiachra Lynch is 6'3" and good under a high ball.
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on April 01, 2011, 05:48:38 PM
Will Mayo have the same fullback as they had against Dublin? He looked a bit small to me,
Fiachra Lynch is 6'3" and good under a high ball.
God bless you both, Chris and Snoop. You know how to sugar the pill to help the medicine go down. ;D
The full-back against Dublin is 5'9" with the wind in his hair I believe. Sure what chance had he?
If it were up to me, I'd have a word with Dublin zoo and see if they can get the lend of one of their gorillas to go back there on the edge of the Mayo square and impose rule among the ungodly. I remember Mick Lyons. He was the boy. Not much nonsense on his watch.
Think Mayo will win this.Doubt if Cork are too bothered about reaching league final and will use two remaining games to try out players. This team is average enough and I don't think Paddy Kelly will play. Fiachra Lynch is not bad but he is very much a fringe player. Expect Mayo to dominate midfield in the abscence of Walsh and to win by 3 or 4 points..
Is that the second long term injury O'Neill has had? Tough break, a wonderful talent
Quote from: Tatler Jack on April 02, 2011, 12:02:31 AM
Think Mayo will win this.Doubt if Cork are too bothered about reaching league final and will use two remaining games to try out players. This team is average enough and I don't think Paddy Kelly will play. Fiachra Lynch is not bad but he is very much a fringe player. Expect Mayo to dominate midfield in the abscence of Walsh and to win by 3 or 4 points..
An informative insight. I hope you're right.
@stephenite - Yeah, O'Neill missed a lot of 2009 with same injury afaik
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on April 01, 2011, 10:35:03 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on April 01, 2011, 05:48:38 PM
Will Mayo have the same fullback as they had against Dublin? He looked a bit small to me,
Fiachra Lynch is 6'3" and good under a high ball.
God bless you both, Chris and Snoop. You know how to sugar the pill to help the medicine go down. ;D
The full-back against Dublin is 5'9" with the wind in his hair I believe. Sure what chance had he?
If it were up to me, I'd have a word with Dublin zoo and see if they can get the lend of one of their gorillas to go back there on the edge of the Mayo square and impose rule among the ungodly. I remember Mick Lyons. He was the boy. Not much nonsense on his watch.
We have to get over this obsession with the full-back thing. There is no such thing as a full-back (as Maggie Thatcher said about society). Mick. Noel Tierney, Francie, Jack Quinn, Seán Doherty and The Iron Man from Rhode and all the old hardies were great but are as relevant as Victorian manners now.
Quote from: Tatler Jack on April 02, 2011, 12:02:31 AM
Think Mayo will win this.Doubt if Cork are too bothered about reaching league final and will use two remaining games to try out players. This team is average enough and I don't think Paddy Kelly will play. Fiachra Lynch is not bad but he is very much a fringe player. Expect Mayo to dominate midfield in the abscence of Walsh and to win by 3 or 4 points..
Our mindset needs to change in saying Hopefully cork wont be too bothered about winning. we need to
be playing against teams at full strength and want it 100%.to gauge where we are at .Definatlly Cork didnt want to win last year when we beat them in the group stages and look what happened in the final.
they ambushed us.in to thinking we were worl beaters.and we fell for it hook line and sinker I hope to god we beat them on sunday and It migt be a sign of progress at the right time but only against a cork team that gave it 100%
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 01, 2011, 01:03:15 PM
This has to be one of the quietest Mayo threads ever!!!
Any word on the team yet??
Five games in and we have yet to bring in a reliable freetaker - this is something we've lacked sinec MS retired and something we could badly do with.
Winning this game would secure Div 1 for us next if Monaghan don't get something out of the Kerry game. Difficult to see though, I have a feeling Cork will be able to up it a gear or two if needed in the last 15-20 minutes.
Sat Morning and no team announced yet. when are the matchday programmes done Im sure they need
to be done by now.meaning the team should be known.
I don't mean Cork won't be trying but I doubt if they will burst a gut to pull it out of the fire if they are a few points behind going in to last 10 minutes. The team has an experimental look about it and some of the newer faces are average enough - certainly no better than any Mayo players. I am not convinced of this Cork midfield and I think Mayo can get on top there early on and put the Cork defence under pressure. O'Sullivan at FB for Cork is an experiment and the half backl line could also come under pressure, Interesting Cadogan is now back in h/back line where he played as an U21 and looked at that time a natural half back. In the games against Monaghan and Down he made some great attacking runs from the FB line so Mayo will need to curtail him.
Would not be surprised to see a couple of more changes on Cork team before the start - in any event this game gives Mayo a great chance to get 2 league points and ease their relegation worries.
Mayo team named
Mayo Team & Panel as follows:
1) Robert Hennelly Breaffy
2) Tom Cunniffe Castlebar Mitchels
3) Alan Feeney Castlebar Mitchels
4) Keith Higgins Ballyhaunis
5) Richie Feeney Castlebar Mitchels
6) Ger Cafferkey Ballina Stephenites
7) Lee Keegan Westport
8 Aidan O'Shea Breaffy
9) James Kilcullen Ballaghaderreen
10) Kevin McLoughlin Knockmore
11) Alan Dillon Ballintubber
12) Andy Moran Ballaghaderreen
13) Cillian O'Connor Ballintubber
14) Alan Freeman Aghamore
15) Jason Doherty Burrishoole
16) David Clarke Ballina Stephenites
17) Peadar Gardiner Crossmolina
18) Chris Barrett Belmullet
19) Barry Moran Castlebar Mitchels
20) Jason Gibbons Ballintubber
21) Tom Parsons Charlestown Sarsfields
22) Aidan Kilcoyne Knockmore
23) Enda Varley Garrymore
24) Ronan Rochford Crossmolina
25) Aidan Campbell Swinford
26) Eoghan O'Reilly Castlebar Mitchels
That's not far off what I thought it would be. But some mild surprises - Lee Keegan and Cillian O'Connor. That will be our full-forward line for the summer, methinks. And close enough to the rest of the team too. I'm optimistic looking at that.
Edit: Five changes from the Dublin game.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on April 02, 2011, 10:39:04 AM
Mayo team named
Mayo Team & Panel as follows:
1) Robert Hennelly Breaffy
2) Tom Cunniffe Castlebar Mitchels
3) Alan Feeney Castlebar Mitchels
4) Keith Higgins Ballyhaunis
5) Richie Feeney Castlebar Mitchels
6) Ger Cafferkey Ballina Stephenites
7) Lee Keegan Westport
8 Aidan O'Shea Breaffy
9) James Kilcullen Ballaghaderreen
10) Kevin McLoughlin Knockmore
11) Alan Dillon Ballintubber
12) Andy Moran Ballaghaderreen
13) Cillian O'Connor Ballintubber
14) Alan Freeman Aghamore
15) Jason Doherty Burrishoole
16) David Clarke Ballina Stephenites
17) Peadar Gardiner Crossmolina
18) Chris Barrett Belmullet
19) Barry Moran Castlebar Mitchels
20) Jason Gibbons Ballintubber
21) Tom Parsons Charlestown Sarsfields
22) Aidan Kilcoyne Knockmore
23) Enda Varley Garrymore
24) Ronan Rochford Crossmolina
25) Aidan Campbell Swinford
26) Eoghan O'Reilly Castlebar Mitchels
That's not far off what I thought it would be. But some mild surprises - Keegan and Cillian O'Connor. That will be our full-forward line for the summer, methinks. And close enough to the rest of the team too. I'm optimistic looking at that.
thought keegan was gone from the pannel after the FBD Final, hasnt even be in the 26 man squad much at all since then....
is one of the slectors in the new set up from
westport ?
Quote from: maguire 4 mayo on April 02, 2011, 10:43:48 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on April 02, 2011, 10:39:04 AM
Mayo team named
Mayo Team & Panel as follows:
1) Robert Hennelly Breaffy
2) Tom Cunniffe Castlebar Mitchels
3) Alan Feeney Castlebar Mitchels
4) Keith Higgins Ballyhaunis
5) Richie Feeney Castlebar Mitchels
6) Ger Cafferkey Ballina Stephenites
7) Lee Keegan Westport
8 Aidan O'Shea Breaffy
9) James Kilcullen Ballaghaderreen
10) Kevin McLoughlin Knockmore
11) Alan Dillon Ballintubber
12) Andy Moran Ballaghaderreen
13) Cillian O'Connor Ballintubber
14) Alan Freeman Aghamore
15) Jason Doherty Burrishoole
16) David Clarke Ballina Stephenites
17) Peadar Gardiner Crossmolina
18) Chris Barrett Belmullet
19) Barry Moran Castlebar Mitchels
20) Jason Gibbons Ballintubber
21) Tom Parsons Charlestown Sarsfields
22) Aidan Kilcoyne Knockmore
23) Enda Varley Garrymore
24) Ronan Rochford Crossmolina
25) Aidan Campbell Swinford
26) Eoghan O'Reilly Castlebar Mitchels
That's not far off what I thought it would be. But some mild surprises - Keegan and Cillian O'Connor. That will be our full-forward line for the summer, methinks. And close enough to the rest of the team too. I'm optimistic looking at that.
thought keegan was gone from the pannel after the FBD Final, hasnt even be in the 26 man squad much at all since then....
is one of the slectors in the new set up from westport ?
Martin Connolly is who you're thinking of. He's actually from Ballindine but managed Westport last year so probably knows more than anyone what Keegan is made of. He's one guy I certainly wouldn't accuse of parorchialism. Keegan hasn't been named in many squads but has been involved all year. Ronan Rochford is on the bench too, I don't think he has been in any squad before this.
Looks like Horan is determined to experiment all the way to the end of the league regardless of the outcome. I'm all for experimentation but this is our 10th competitive game and we only have two more after this (including London) before it gets serious. It really is time to be nailing down a 15 now and sticking close enough to it bar an odd change here or there.
On the positive side its good to see Feeney back and will be interesting to see him against a 6 foot 3 inch full forward. The full forward line looks like it has a decade of mileage in front of it, but I think this year could be a year too soon for O'Connor.
Negatives - that midfield could go either way, we could find that one of them solve a problem for us or they could get wiped. I am yet to be convinced at all by Kilcullen since he has come back but I haven't seen all the games so maybe I'm missing something. Also, how many different players have we tried at 7 now?
I'd fancy Cork to win this to be honest.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on April 02, 2011, 10:39:04 AM
Mayo team named
Mayo Team & Panel as follows:
1) Robert Hennelly Breaffy
2) Tom Cunniffe Castlebar Mitchels
3) Alan Feeney Castlebar Mitchels
4) Keith Higgins Ballyhaunis
5) Richie Feeney Castlebar Mitchels
6) Ger Cafferkey Ballina Stephenites
7) Lee Keegan Westport
8 Aidan O'Shea Breaffy
9) James Kilcullen Ballaghaderreen
10) Kevin McLoughlin Knockmore
11) Alan Dillon Ballintubber
12) Andy Moran Ballaghaderreen
13) Cillian O'Connor Ballintubber
14) Alan Freeman Aghamore
15) Jason Doherty Burrishoole
16) David Clarke Ballina Stephenites
17) Peadar Gardiner Crossmolina
18) Chris Barrett Belmullet
19) Barry Moran Castlebar Mitchels
20) Jason Gibbons Ballintubber
21) Tom Parsons Charlestown Sarsfields
22) Aidan Kilcoyne Knockmore
23) Enda Varley Garrymore
24) Ronan Rochford Crossmolina
25) Aidan Campbell Swinford
26) Eoghan O'Reilly Castlebar Mitchels
Edit: Five changes from the Dublin game.
Looks ok The Management know best..the Diamond around the middle has the experience of Dillon the power and strength of O shea and kilcullan. and Caff will be needed there as well for breaking ball. so if they break even in Mf it could be close but I think all we can expect and hope for is a good solid performance going forward I cant see anything other than a Cork win. hope im Wrong
Quote from: moysider on April 02, 2011, 12:43:53 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on April 01, 2011, 10:35:03 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on April 01, 2011, 05:48:38 PM
Will Mayo have the same fullback as they had against Dublin? He looked a bit small to me,
Fiachra Lynch is 6'3" and good under a high ball.
God bless you both, Chris and Snoop. You know how to sugar the pill to help the medicine go down. ;D
The full-back against Dublin is 5'9" with the wind in his hair I believe. Sure what chance had he?
If it were up to me, I'd have a word with Dublin zoo and see if they can get the lend of one of their gorillas to go back there on the edge of the Mayo square and impose rule among the ungodly. I remember Mick Lyons. He was the boy. Not much nonsense on his watch.
We have to get over this obsession with the full-back thing. There is no such thing as a full-back (as Maggie Thatcher said about society). Mick. Noel Tierney, Francie, Jack Quinn, Seán Doherty and The Iron Man from Rhode and all the old hardies were great but are as relevant as Victorian manners now.
I like Victorian manners almost as much as I like Mick Lyons. Please and thank you and respect for elders are eternal values and if they're not, they damn well should be.
I see where you're coming from Moysider and I'm fully aware of the points you've been making during the League about game plans and tactics and the way the team is(n't) knitting together. But I can't get around the idea that a big bad hombre minding the house makes everyone in front of him feel better.
This Sunday is a bit of lottery. Both kind of meh team selections. Mayo need to win it more - maybe that will swing it. But who knows, really? Who knows what the hell is going on?
Just about to hit the road. Reasonably hopeful we can get something from the game if we keep it tight early on. Anyway if we show a bit more cop on it ll be progress I suppose.
Real soccer style response from the Mayo fans to the ref there at half time, rarely hear that at a league match.
Mayo one point ahead at half time (7-6) but will be playing into a hurricane in the second half.
No stopping Doherty at the moment - 6 goals in 4 starts for Mayo...
1-11 to 0-7, wouldn't have seen that coming at half time.
Great win ;D
Another scoreless final quarter from Mayo and some serious clinging on at the end but a good win for Mayo and another season in Division 1 confirmed. We can leave Galway, Monaghan and Armagh to fight it out on the final day now. Hopefully by next season we will have a more settled team and will be able to challenge a bit more.
Sounds like Rory Hickey had a Sludden and after the barracking he got off the Mayo crowd at half time it sounds like he got his revenge by blowing up as we were going for the kill at the end.
I'll leave it to those that were there to do some analysis but I'm impressed that we held midfield without McGarrity and the defence was much improved. All starting midfielders and forwards scored (McLoughlin played as an extra defender) so a good day all round.
Mid west coverage was good today with Ed McGreal on the sideline reporting.
Just a pity they felt the need to turn the whole thing into a party political broadcast for Fine Gael who have apparently improved both the weather and Mayo's footballing fortunes since they came into power. ::)
At last; The 1st time we have 2 footballers in midfield we get a result.
Quote from: highorlow on April 03, 2011, 04:20:21 PM
At last; The 1st time we have 2 footballers in midfield we get a result.
What?
Who are u saying isn't a footballer?
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on April 03, 2011, 03:10:50 PM
Real soccer style response from the Mayo fans to the ref there at half time, rarely hear that at a league match.
Mayo one point ahead at half time (7-6) but will be playing into a hurricane in the second half.
Were the wooden spoons out again?
Fanstasic win for Mayo today, reading back Tatler Jack got it spot on & TBH it's hard to see past Mayo in Connacht this year.
Well that was a very enjoyable afternoon in McHale Park and made the drive back to Dublin go a lot faster :)
We're still a work in progress though, and I'd have doubts that Cork were going full throttle at any stage of the match.
But it's a great result, and has assured us of our Div 1 status for next year.
The defence was much improved from the Dublin game, Cork didn't really create any goal chances until the last few jittery minutes. Richie Feeney was again the pick of the defenders and is a cast-iron certainty for the number 5 shirt for Championship.
I thought Aidan O'Shea did well in midfield, and looks like that's where he should play when he's on the field. Kilcullen had a good first half also and got a couple of very good points before running out of steam in the second half. With Seamus O'Shea to make his comeback and McGarrity playing great stuff before his injury, we look like we should be fine there.
Andy Moran was a real leader today, he won 3 or 4 vital breaks in midfield near the end when Cork were putting the pressure on. Dillon was also improved, but has more to give. Brian Carty gave him MOTM on RTE, but I have to agree with Billy Fitz that Andy Moran outshone him in the half-forwards today.
The two certainties in the full forward line, Freeman and Doherty, were dangerous again. It's great to be able to rely on those lads to get scores, 6 goals from 4 games from Doherty is incredible, and he should have had a second at the death - Campbell should have laid off to him.
The only negative was that we lost a lot of shape in those last 5 or 10 mins. We were panicky and were almost caught. But in fairness, the lads saw it out and you could see they were delighted at the full time whistle.
Oh and finally, big crowd I thought. Great atmosphere in the stand when the goal went in.
Quote from: ross4life on April 03, 2011, 06:14:30 PM
Fanstasic win for Mayo today, reading back Tatler Jack got it spot on & TBH it's hard to see past Mayo in Connacht this year.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Is that a grin of confidence i detect?
That ;D is falling over with laughter, you won't fool me ya cute Rossie hoar, trying to build up us poor fickle Mayo people up for the big fall! Remember ye are Connacht Champions, Sligo beat both Mayo and Galway last year, Galway and more importantly Joyce are coming good at the right time. Actually, the Connacht Championship will be really exciting this year, can't wait!
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on April 03, 2011, 04:16:25 PM
Mid west coverage was good today with Ed McGreal on the sideline reporting.
Just a pity they felt the need to turn the whole thing into a party political broadcast for Fine Gael who have apparently improved both the weather and Mayo's footballing fortunes since they came into power. ::)
I totally agree with the bit I put in bold. I'll post my thoughts on the match tomorrow.
Great win against the head today. Important to stay in Division 1.
Some very encouraging performances. AOS had a great game and was our most important player. Higgins, Richie Feeney, Andy, Dillon and Freeman also top performers. O Connor did very well and Doherty is always a threat inside.
Great to see O Sé put down a marker as a midfielder. He s a completely different player today than when he s asked to arse around inside. It s a pity McGarrity may be some time out now as they could be a serious pairing. The other O Sé may be the best other option and Kilcullen can also have a role to play and actually may be a choice for some kind of games.
Horan got a right today. He was smart to go with the extra defender even when we had the wind. That was critical as Cork were doing as the wished at times with possession in the first half. The odd sharp counter attack kept us ticking over.
Worryingly Cunniffe found Kerrigan too much. Kerrigan is good but not that good and Higgins coped well when switched onto him. Cunniffe may be carrying an injury but it looks like we re still shy a back or two.
We were hanging on a bit towards the end and if I may be permitted a criticism I don t think our substitutions gave us anything. Apart from Campell, who got involved straight away. Anybody know what Trevor is at? He could have a role to play yet. Harte would be an addition as well but will hardly see any action this side of the August bank holiday.
Good win! Campbell did get stuck in but I thought he did his prospects no good by not laying off that last ball to Doherty for an almost certain goal.
Quote from: diehard on April 03, 2011, 10:54:44 PM
Good win! Campbell did get stuck in but I thought he did his prospects no good by not laying off that last ball to Doherty for an almost certain goal.
Campbell prospects are fine in my book but was not happy at the time. Looking at it later he appeared to lose a bit of control of the ball as he approached the goal.
And boy did that ref love puttin the whistle to his lips as we fucked it up, but he did us a favour by playing damn all dead time. The guy was a joke. Only for the crowd got on his case at the end of first half he would have rode us out of town. Even the Cork guy with the sombrero was having a laugh about the poor f**ker and he has seen a lot. Still a bit worrying a decade and a half later that we are still seen as riding material by some of these gobshites.
Campbell has been one of the successes of the spring with likes of R.Feeney, Doherty, and now AOS in midfield. Stuff we didn t have a year ago.
Quote from: moysider on April 03, 2011, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: diehard on April 03, 2011, 10:54:44 PM
Good win! Campbell did get stuck in but I thought he did his prospects no good by not laying off that last ball to Doherty for an almost certain goal.
Campbell prospects are fine in my book but was not happy at the time. Looking at it later he appeared to lose a bit of control of the ball as he approached the goal.
And boy did that ref love puttin the whistle to his lips as we fucked it up, but he did us a favour by playing damn all dead time. The guy was a joke. Only for the crowd got on his case at the end of first half he would have rode us out of town. Even the Cork guy with the sombrero was having a laugh about the poor f**ker and he has seen a lot. Still a bit worrying a decade and a half later that we are still seen as riding material by some of these gobshites.
Campbell has been one of the successes of the spring with likes of R.Feeney, Doherty, and now AOS in midfield. Stuff we didn t have a year ago.
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QuoteStill a bit worrying a decade and a half later that we are still seen as riding material by some of these gobshites.
I think he is on about the 1996 AI and McEneany.
A very good win. Cork were not at full tilt but they weren't coasting either. Mayo's third quarter display was immense and they fully deserved to win. Still some sorting out to be done but Horan has, by virtue of this win, got the balance perfectly right in the league by staying up yet trying players and trying to address weaknesses etc. It was great to see Keith Higgins back to something approaching his best, same with Alan Dillon. As a unit I thought our defence was superb and Kevin McLoughlin did very well as the seventh defender in terms of cutting off space. Cork very rarely got space within 30 yards of goal, a big change from the Dublin game. I was impressed with Ger Cafferkey too - he stood tall against Pearse O'Neill and while some think he's not a centre-half back, I feel he has settled in well there and will be a player that can thrive in that position.
I think Richie Feeney has the number 5 jersey nailed down and it was great to see such combative play from out two midfielders. I would have said before this game that Ronan McGarrity was our nailed down first midfielder but Kilcullen and O'Shea both gave Horan some food for thought. Great that we have the options now.
Andy was again immense in the half-forward line. I think he'll bring his league form into championship this time as well. And Doherty and Freeman continue to impress. Cork were live to their threat and tried to surround them when they got the ball - which is what they can expect now as marked men - but they still were effective.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on April 04, 2011, 12:07:33 PM
A very good win. Cork were not at full tilt but they weren't coasting either. Mayo's third quarter display was immense and they fully deserved to win. Still some sorting out to be done but Horan has, by virtue of this win, got the balance perfectly right in the league by staying up yet trying players and trying to address weaknesses etc. It was great to see Keith Higgins back to something approaching his best, same with Alan Dillon. As a unit I thought our defence was superb and Kevin McLoughlin did very well as the seventh defender in terms of cutting off space. Cork very rarely got space within 30 yards of goal, a big change from the Dublin game. I was impressed with Ger Cafferkey too - he stood tall against Pearse O'Neill and while some think he's not a centre-half back, I feel he has settled in well there and will be a player that can thrive in that position.
I think Richie Feeney has the number 5 jersey nailed down and it was great to see such combative play from out two midfielders. I would have said before this game that Ronan McGarrity was our nailed down first midfielder but Kilcullen and O'Shea both gave Horan some food for thought. Great that we have the options now.
Andy was again immense in the half-forward line. I think he'll bring his league form into championship this time as well. And Doherty and Freeman continue to impress. Cork were live to their threat and tried to surround them when they got the ball - which is what they can expect now as marked men - but they still were effective.
A fine post, R&GS. It sums up my own reaction very well.
During the week I ran into an old friend, a cute Kerry hoor who knows the Langers' mindset better than most – he played against them often enough.
He fully expected them to knock the stuffing out of us but was praying we would win.
"Langers don't do friendlies," is one of his most frequent sayings but he felt they had another pressing reason to prevail in Castlebar; if they failed to do so and if Kerry were to win against Monaghan, Cork would not have a guaranteed passage to the final against Dublin.
Kerry would be back in the shakeup and that's the last thing Counihan & Co. wanted. I'm no expert in combinations and permutations but it seems my buddy's wish was granted. So Mayo's win was merited and full credit is due to James Horan and all the lads involved.
For me, the most satisfying aspect was the form of the older hands on show and the fact that McGarrity also appears to have put the trauma of last season behind him as well.
It's also gratifying to see Kilcullen and Campbell are back in the fold again and that Kilcoyne, Barry Moran and Seamus O'Shea will be pressing for inclusion for the championships.
BTW, what's the story about Conoreen? Is he still in Horan's plans?
All in all, I left Castlebar in a better state of mind than is usually the case.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on April 04, 2011, 02:19:13 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on April 04, 2011, 12:07:33 PM
A very good win. Cork were not at full tilt but they weren't coasting either. Mayo's third quarter display was immense and they fully deserved to win. Still some sorting out to be done but Horan has, by virtue of this win, got the balance perfectly right in the league by staying up yet trying players and trying to address weaknesses etc. It was great to see Keith Higgins back to something approaching his best, same with Alan Dillon. As a unit I thought our defence was superb and Kevin McLoughlin did very well as the seventh defender in terms of cutting off space. Cork very rarely got space within 30 yards of goal, a big change from the Dublin game. I was impressed with Ger Cafferkey too - he stood tall against Pearse O'Neill and while some think he's not a centre-half back, I feel he has settled in well there and will be a player that can thrive in that position.
I think Richie Feeney has the number 5 jersey nailed down and it was great to see such combative play from out two midfielders. I would have said before this game that Ronan McGarrity was our nailed down first midfielder but Kilcullen and O'Shea both gave Horan some food for thought. Great that we have the options now.
Andy was again immense in the half-forward line. I think he'll bring his league form into championship this time as well. And Doherty and Freeman continue to impress. Cork were live to their threat and tried to surround them when they got the ball - which is what they can expect now as marked men - but they still were effective.
A fine post, R&GS. It sums up my own reaction very well.
During the week I ran into an old friend, a cute Kerry hoor who knows the Langers' mindset better than most – he played against them often enough.
He fully expected them to knock the stuffing out of us but was praying we would win.
"Langers don't do friendlies," is one of his most frequent sayings but he felt they had another pressing reason to prevail in Castlebar; if they failed to do so and if Kerry were to win against Monaghan, Cork would not have a guaranteed passage to the final against Dublin.
Kerry would be back in the shakeup and that's the last thing Counihan & Co. wanted. I'm no expert in combinations and permutations but it seems my buddy's wish was granted. So Mayo's win was merited and full credit is due to James Horan and all the lads involved.
For me, the most satisfying aspect was the form of the older hands on show and the fact that McGarrity also appears to have put the trauma of last season behind him as well.
It's also gratifying to see Kilcullen and Campbell are back in the fold again and that Kilcoyne, Barry Moran and Seamus O'Shea will be pressing for inclusion for the championships.
BTW, what's the story about Conoreen? Is he still in Horan's plans?
All in all, I left Castlebar in a better state of mind than is usually the case.
Conoreen just after a knee operation, out for year. McGarrity was not palying yesterday. Great win yesterday, sets us up nicely heading into championship, will be vital to hit on a team now. Contrast this with the mood after the league final last year.
Thanks Mayo, always had a soft spot fior the county :P
Quote from: Kerry Mike on April 04, 2011, 02:28:14 PM
Thanks Mayo, always had a soft spot fior the county :P
Well why wouldn't you, we've been very good to ye over the years!
QuoteWell why wouldn't you, we've been very good to ye over the years!
Its a mutual thing, we gave ye a great gift in 1996 !!
Quote from: Kerry Mike on April 04, 2011, 02:50:10 PM
QuoteWell why wouldn't you, we've been very good to ye over the years!
Its a mutual thing, we gave ye a great gift in 1996 !!
We're well due another so. 15 years is a long time between gifts.
Mayo were more physical than I expected, they bossed cork out of it in midfield. It was very un-mayo-like. ;)
well done Mayo, not one the fans were all that sure of winning, nice to see aos done well in midfield and doherty hit the net again. Even with freeman and doherty not scoring a big pile the scores were spread out and doherty was ready to pounce at the very end if the ball came his way. its encouraging, and Mayo will probably do well enough this championship.Depending on the draw they could see august but still I get the feeling kerry or tyrone or someone like that will dash our hopes.
I watched the dublin goal that was kicked in from the right side and the forward just touched it past his marker and our goalie was in no mans land with his hands, that would be a sickener in croke park in august, hope they watch videos of these soft mistakes and learn from them.
Mannix, a thinly veiled play David Clarke from Ballina. I think Hennelly's Kickouts are superior and he's a better shot stopper in my opinion. Both good keepers and we are lucky in that regard.
Anyway, well done Mayo and it puts off the 'relegation decider' against Monaghan as all and sundry put it. I thought AOS my own personal motm, given the change of position etc. That's 2 midfield performances of high quality from him now and that's probably his best position. (Hopefully anyway) However, Dillon did deserve it I suppose as he is the man who makes us tick. Andy Moran could have gotten it as well and I wouldn't have objected to him getting it either. I thought the ref was shockingly bad yesterday. At least we won the thing because if we didn't there'd be more flak given out to him.
What's the stories with Mayo and referees anyway? Every year ew seem to get one or two games where some hoor of a ref decides to f**k up games with whistling and being anti-Mayo in some instances. Can Mayo County board do anything about as I find it very annoying as a fan to see the likes of Alan Dillon getting booked for SFA, worse happened to Higgins last year when that Galway/Rossie p***k of a reff Kinneavy/Ó Conámha sent him off.
Back to the game, Clarke will do well to regain his place in goal imo. Cunniffe did struggle big time on Kerrigan as somebody else pointed out. Once again Jason Doherty came up with a goal, while Alan Freeman will have great days too no doubt. Another player who impressed me was Lee Keegan. I thought he did very well and hopefully he can step up to championship pace. I do believe Alan Feeney is our full-back for the year. Hopefully he will be able to stake a claim for the position in the next game against Monaghan. And they didn't do to bad starting off either it must be said. :)
Quote from: mannix on April 04, 2011, 06:40:40 PM
well done Mayo, not one the fans were all that sure of winning, nice to see aos done well in midfield and doherty hit the net again. Even with freeman and doherty not scoring a big pile the scores were spread out and doherty was ready to pounce at the very end if the ball came his way. its encouraging, and Mayo will probably do well enough this championship.Depending on the draw they could see august but still I get the feeling kerry or tyrone or someone like that will dash our hopes.
I watched the dublin goal that was kicked in from the right side and the forward just touched it past his marker and our goalie was in no mans land with his hands, that would be a sickener in croke park in august, hope they watch videos of these soft mistakes and learn from them.
I expect that the set up ( though not necessarily the selection) against Cork is what we are going to see in the championship. Our defense did not stand up against Dublin because selection was wrong. I m talking about the sweeper being too loose - simply wrong player for the job required - when we needed somebody to sit in front of a small full-back line. Yesterday I dont think we played a sweeper as such, just an extra back who tried to get to where the threat was. It worked. While Cork threw ball around they didn t cut through us like shite through a goose, like we ve seen in the past. This is what I think we can expect to see in the championship, thank God. It is the only realistic game if we get to Croke Park anyway. It suits us as well because we re well set up for a counter-attacking game.
Great win by Mayo, it takes the pressure off management as we are safe in the league and can continue to experiment in Monaghan and maybe even Ruslip.
We out worked Cork and showed more hunger and I think thats what pulled it off. Its good to see the players buy in to Horans workrate philosophy and it is paying dividends.
A lot of it has already been said here but I will add to a few things that I noticed.
Firstly, aside from what certain posters think; we actually lost midfield but ironically we seemed to have two reasonably good individual midfield performances. Kilcullen and O Shea both got on the scoreboard, put in some big hits, tacked and worked their socks off and for the most part played very well. However we seemed to lose aerial battle and break count and thus primary possession which was strange considering Mayo pulled a win out of the bag.
After Sunday, I still think McGarity could be one part of our best midfield partnership, because he wins the most high fielding possession and is good in the air, so after that it really is a toss up between the pair at the weekend with O Shea probably more likely to feature there again as we have not seen much of him at midfeild in the past. Thats not ruling out Jason Gibbons who hopefully will get another shot against Monaghan to prove himself.
All in all it was a gutsy performance and vital in the sense that we didnt allow Cork to play and run us over. I do think Corks game suited Mayo a little as they love to pass and run in possession so Mayo backs didnt have as much to do as the ball wasnt really kicked in. Cunniffe looked like he was struggling and I noticed him hobbling in the first half which tells me he wasnt fully fit. Alan Feeney did Ok and but I also notice he gives away a lot of frees and sprawls and over commits in a tackle a bit. Other than than I think Lee Keegan made some mistakes in possession but it was his first start in the league so he needs time.
Upfront I cant complain with the forwards who all worked hard and stood up to it. We have some serious forwards in Dillon, Andy Moran, Freeman and Doherty with the rest all not that far behind. My MOTM would have been either Dillon or McGloughlin. Dillon was inspirational and had a great game after a slow enough start to the season. McGloughlin seemed to be everywhere and played his role brilliantly.
Onwards and upwards. I would have a completely new team out against Monaghan to give lads the chance to prove themselves, as some got their chance against Cork. Those great performances on Sunday can only drive other guys to take their chance when they get it.
To have all the tough selection and managerial decisions to make is a great place to be for Mayo to be in.
I agree, the next game is a must win for Monaghan and is the place to test players, the challenge games will not match this next game for intensity. By the way I am not saying the hennelly is not a good keeper, he was caught out badly for that particular goal and the forward in question knew exactly what to do.
It would be a killer to lose a big game later this summer because of a goal like that.
Quote from: mannix on April 05, 2011, 03:54:10 AM
I agree, the next game is a must win for Monaghan and is the place to test players, the challenge games will not match this next game for intensity. By the way I am not saying the hennelly is not a good keeper, he was caught out badly for that particular goal and the forward in question knew exactly what to do.
It would be a killer to lose a big game later this summer because of a goal like that.
He shouldn't have come for that ball but when you've seen your full-back line destroyed in the air for two goals in the first fifteen minutes already, you'd be inclined to think you need to come and contest it. In fairness to him the Dublin game saw him make two mistakes and that has been it. He's a top class 'keeper and I think Horan knows as much. If Clarke was starting in championship, then he would have got the start against Cork. I think that is instructive of how Horan is thinking.