Eamonn Mallie tweeting that a man and woman found shot dead in Legahory estate in Lurgan.
From the BBC
A man and woman have been found murdered in a house in Craigavon, County Armagh.
Their bodies were discovered in the property in Legahory Court just after 1800 GMT on Monday.
Detectives from PSNI's serious crime branch are investigating the circumstances of their deaths.
Police appealing for anyone who noticed unusual or suspicious activity in the area to contact them.
That'd be Craigavon actually, but close to Lurgan. BBC has picked it up, doesn't seem to be any details yet.
Didn't think there were still people living in Legahory.
Just heard who the man is. sc**bag from a family of scumbags. No doubt related to drugs and/or loyalists.
Apparently there's a name going about as to who the gunman was, hear anything Ulick?
Aye, surname beginning with 'H'?
Could have been anyone though. Didn't one of those McKeown scumbags try to plug him a few years ago as well?
it's front page of irish news, they reckon the killer knew them as he would have to have been let into the house, heavily fortified steel doors and bulletproof glass with CCTV everywhere
Didn't actually hear the name, just that there was one going about almost immediately after.. No great loss to society in any case.
Isn't it crazy that we have only 10 posts about a double murder that happened during the day (6.pm)
How bad allegedly were this couple? Was the woman as bad or just unfortunate to be in the wrong place at wrong time?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2011, 08:05:22 PM
Isn't it crazy that we have only 10 posts about a double murder that happened during the day (6.pm)
How bad allegedly were this couple? Was the woman as bad or just unfortunate to be in the wrong place at wrong time?
Israel or the Brits are not responsible so nothing to see here.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2011, 08:05:22 PM
Isn't it crazy that we have only 10 posts about a double murder that happened during the day (6.pm)
How bad allegedly were this couple? Was the woman as bad or just unfortunate to be in the wrong place at wrong time?
Can't comment on the wife but the man was invovled in a murder of a teenager 10 years ago. You only have to look at their fortified house to tell he had a shady background. Most of the estate he lived in has been knocked down but before that it had a serious hood/drug problem. My initial suspicion is that this man's past caught up with him - suggestion of loyalist involvement wouldn't be far off.
Yes and I'm all for live by the sword and all that, but usually the board would have a few more posts regarding a double killing that seems to be done by a hit man possibly.
I know there are some bad women out there but......
Quote from: Trout on March 09, 2011, 08:37:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2011, 08:05:22 PM
Isn't it crazy that we have only 10 posts about a double murder that happened during the day (6.pm)
How bad allegedly were this couple? Was the woman as bad or just unfortunate to be in the wrong place at wrong time?
Israel or the Brits are not responsible so nothing to see here.
Or are they? ;)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2011, 08:47:16 PM
Yes and I'm all for live by the sword and all that, but usually the board would have a few more posts regarding a double killing that seems to be done by a hit man possibly.
Can you point us in the direction of these threads with a few more posts about double killings that seems to be done by a hit man possibly?
Two drug dealing shitheads have been shot dead. That is WINNING!!!!!
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 10, 2011, 10:16:31 AM
Two drug dealing shitheads have been shot dead. That is WINNING!!!!!
This is the way i would have thought for many a year. We all know people who might smoke a joint, take a few class As etc, but we condem the dealers? Rightly so, but what happens when they our dead? How many couples to you know who ask if the diamond for their engagement ring is a conflict diamond, were our designer clothes come from. Im not tring to give anyone a morality lesson, as i know as a consumer I would be prepared to still buy certain goods even knowing the route that they have went through to get here. Organised crime is a major problem for our society and across the world, it is interwoven into the very basic mechanisms of the world economy. And to be honest the more I read about it the less i think can be done to stop it. Great book to read "Gommorah"
Scum is scum mucker, I think less of these so called people that the stuff I wipe from the soles of my boots.
I agree with you lad. Im just saying its more of problem for society than we think. Known fact, dead drug dealers lead to more drug dealers and generally more drugs. I have no sympathy for someone who dies in this proffession, bit like a stunt man complaining abou the injustice of breaking an arm. However the problem doesnt go away
Quote from: Ulick on March 07, 2011, 11:14:28 PM
Just heard who the man is. sc**bag from a family of scumbags. No doubt related to drugs and/or loyalists.
Glad to hear it's only Loyalists who deal in drugs. :o
Many a double killing in N.Ireland or more killed in this place Saffsam! Where have you been for the last 35 years ya wally???
As someone who has been a victim of this bustard, I lived in Legahory and was shot at through my bedroom window by this scum, I hope he rots in HELL. When I left with my wife my house was burned down the next day. I was with the RUC about the incident and told them who fired the shots as I saw them do it ,I was told it was my word against theirs. One year later this scum was convicted of wounding and served time in jail,this time it was a fallout between theives. His wife was also from a well known criminal family. The world is now a better place without these two people. At his funeral the police should have an easy time spotting the hoods, that`s all that will be there.
As I said earlier, live by the sword....... I was just surprised at how little detail there is about this considering the amount of posters that knew them and who done it.
I could tell you stories you would not belive about this place, I was asked in the police station did I know who the hoods were. I asked the seargent how long he was stationed there,he replied 7 yrs, i said and you are asking me.I told him who imo they were and his reply was would I stand up in court and say this. I said yes, and he said you know you will be intimadated. I asked was being shot at and my house burned down not iintimading me/he did not reply.
I find it strange that there are very few reports on the internet about this. No names of the victims are mentioned.
I worked in Legahory for a year and between the druggies and Red Beard the caravan Pirate and his family it was the closest thing to the Wild West I have ever experienced. I was told by some long standing occupants that is was lovely when it was first built but as the scum from other towns were shipped out and 'relocated' there it went to the dogs. Gang rule and that was that.
Quote from: Capt Pat on March 11, 2011, 09:39:22 AM
I find it strange that there are very few reports on the internet about this. No names of the victims are mentioned.
Their names were all over the papers and news! Do you get your news on the gaaboard?
I have been in legahory and I have to say its easily the worst looking and dirtiest place I have ever been and i've been round a few corners!!!!
If the cops never did anything about these two tramps they might well have been touts for teh ruc/psni. Thats what the do in armagh, they take their info from drug dealing touts and protect them from prosecution.
As for the two deal drug dealers, I have absolutely no sympathy for them and society as a whole is better off with them dead.
Correct Stew, every week in the local paper some one from Lurgan or portadown are caught in Legahory and charged with having a drug wrap as they are called. Everyone knows the two houses that the drugs are sold from. It has never occured to the cops to visit these houses and stop it at the source. The houses can be seen from the cop shop with a camera almost always pointed that direction. And they ask the public to inform them if drugs or crime are in the area. Joke or what?
Quote from: JUst retired on March 11, 2011, 02:04:48 PM
Correct Stew, every week in the local paper some one from Lurgan or portadown are caught in Legahory and charged with having a drug wrap as they are called. Everyone knows the two houses that the drugs are sold from. It has never occured to the cops to visit these houses and stop it at the source. The houses can be seen from the cop shop with a camera almost always pointed that direction. And they ask the public to inform them if drugs or crime are in the area. Joke or what?
Of course it has.
It may well have occured to them but what did they do about it? There is only one house now so it should not be too much bother to them. Watch this space!!
Quote from: dillinger on March 10, 2011, 10:44:13 PM
Glad to hear it's only Loyalists who deal in drugs. :o
The Legahory hoods have always been supplied by loyalists (mainly LVF from the Parkmore estate) over the past 25 years from 'Bonanze' when he was there, to the Marno brothers, Billy Wirght, the McNally brothers, the McKeowns and latter day Jim Carlises (father and son). They are all the lowest form of life you could ever find and each an every one of them up to their armpits in various loyalist groupings - if you don't believe my try Googling any one of them. The McKeown brothers are a particularly hateful bunch of c***ts - one convicted of murdering Catholic teenager Bernadette Martin by shooting her in the head as she slept and another convicted of murdering Catholic taxi driver Michael McGoldrick. Hugh McGeough was every bit as bad. The link below draws attention to an attempt on his life by one of his former mates. The dispute in the article was nothing to do with with McGeough murdering the teenager but a mere fallout over the division of drugs, money and guns between themselves.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/thug-boss-13905828.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/thug-boss-13905828.html)
For years the RUC let these c***ts run around murdering any Fenian they could lay their hands on, all the while turning a blind eye to their drug dealing. You'll not find many round Lurgan or Craigavon who would shed tears over any of them.
The two Carlisle hoods were the greatest cowards you could meet. The younger had the nickname of Sunny Jim due to his love of burning houses He also threw a petrol bomb in to the local bar,he was named by locals in the bar,and some of the petrol had spilt over his arms. The cops lifted him in Craigavon Hosp, and said they could do nothing as he said he was working on a motorbike which went on fire on him. Big Daddy Jim would not face me on one occasion when I went to his house and invited him out,he ran in and hid behind the tr**p he was living with.The people you named Ulick should be suplemented with a young guy called Neil Mc Conville, who was shot dead by the RUC near Aghalee. He was another one of the Carlisle/Mc Geough bunch. The crows eventually come home to roost. I would not loose any sleep over any of them, they are not fit to be buried in the ground (any ground), with decent people.
Was Jim Snr not originally from Republican west Belfast, a friend of mine would be a distant relative of his, apparently put out by the Provos back in the day? Not that politics are of any concern to these people, their only concern is profit. Jim Jnr was also responsible for an armed robbery on Eire Og social club last year, tying up a pensioner in the process. All scumbags.
From the Lurgan Mail:
Wedding day ended in riot
Published on Thursday 10 March 2011 08:21
THE marriage of Hugh McGeough and Jackie McCartney ended as it had begun - in violence.
The murdered couple had celebrated their 10th wedding anniversary on November 25 but it's a day they may have wanted to forget.
In fact the wedding day ended not with the throwing of a bouquet but with a police riot squad moving in to clear guests from the hotel where the reception had taken place.
The couple had been due to wed in Las Vegas in 2000 but plans had to change when Mr McGeough was refused entry to the United States.
Indeed he had bragged several different agencies had objected to his entry to the US, including the RUC at that time, the FBI, Interpol, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms Agency.
Instead the couple wed in Craigavon Civic Centre, in a day marred by brawls among guests at the hotel venue.
As the evening wore on guests began to disturb other patrons at the venue and Mr McGeough had stood up and asked those causing the bother to leave.
A hotel manager then made a similar request before a group of around ten police officers in full riot gear and two police dogs moved in to clear the room.
Outside, according to our witness, there was a virtual pitched battle between police and some of the guests.
A true example of how the RUC is still a shower of c***ts. No doubt some of them were get well paid to turn a blind eye
McGeough and his brother were also put out of Kilwilkie by the provies for drug dealing,they were also supposed to be members at that time.
Legahory was a nice place to live until the hoods who had burned themselves out of everywhere else got in, curtesey of the Housing Executive. They had nowhere else to put them. The same as the gypsy camp now. Residents held meetings and were told nothing could be done. whoever said it was right, nothing was done by the statuary bodies. So we had another ghost estate to follow Rossmoyle and half of Edenbeg. All caused by the same people.
Christ!! And i thought Belfast had bad estates. Turflodge sounds like a summer camp compared to that place
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2011, 09:46:58 AM
Christ!! And i thought Belfast had bad estates. Turflodge sounds like a summer camp compared to that place
The thing is the scum that are fcuked out of Turk Lodge etc end up in Craigavon or Antrim. For your Legahory in Craigavon you have STiles or Rathenraw in Antrim and not much of a difference in the clientele that lives in these places. Belfast scum outcasts!
Fair play to you for facing that **** down JR. I know the owner of the bar you are talking about. As I remember Carlise or one of his thugs also drove a car into the back of the bar and set it on fire as well. Ended up he couldn't get insurance for the bar - a mate of mine erected all of the security grills and plating around it. He had to do the same for the owners home after more death threats and Carlise was was spotted casing out the house. He was near driven demented over the whole thing.
I see Cris Carlisle was refused compassionate leave to attend the funeral in case it sparked off a family feud again between them and Mc Geoughs gang. All the hoods will be in Craigavon today.
Knowing full well the arguments about where you draw the line etc etc etc....but I cant help but think the world would be much better place if robin hood styled assasins existed to rid all of these type of people from society. Would certainly be a driver for changing the lifestyle of any up and coming sc**bag if he knew what would await him if he went down that path.
Quote from: theskull1 on March 13, 2011, 07:26:53 AM
Knowing full well the arguments about where you draw the line etc etc etc....but I cant help but think the world would be much better place if robin hood styled assasins existed to rid all of these type of people from society. Would certainly be a driver for changing the lifestyle of any up and coming sc**bag if he knew what would await him if he went down that path.
The problem is that, unless they are blind, they do know what happens when you go down this path. I am not as familiar with Northern gangs as I am with some of the Southern ones but down here these gangsters all end up dead before they make 40. Look at the westies in Blanchardstown all dead after being the most powerful and brutal gang in Dublin, yet there are still guys that will come in and fill the void. Its bred into these people from when they are kids and until that is addressed we will always have this issue.
Quote from: theskull1 on March 13, 2011, 07:26:53 AM
Knowing full well the arguments about where you draw the line etc etc etc....but I cant help but think the world would be much better place if robin hood styled assasins existed to rid all of these type of people from society. Would certainly be a driver for changing the lifestyle of any up and coming sc**bag if he knew what would await him if he went down that path.
But sure then we'd have the PC brigade out pointing to how
The state failed them!
Can't win for losing with scum like this >:(
Would these few crazy estates about Craigavon be considered the exception rather than the norm for towns about that area ?
Portadown always seemed to get the bad publicity during the troubles. Do the towns of Portadown, Craigavon and Lurgan have their own identity or are they linked as the one urban area ?
Quote from: spuds on March 13, 2011, 08:22:00 PM
Would these few crazy estates about Craigavon be considered the exception rather than the norm for towns about that area ?
Portadown always seemed to get the bad publicity during the troubles. Do the towns of Portadown, Craigavon and Lurgan have their own identity or are they linked as the one urban area ?
They are separated by a few roundabouts. Like all similar sized towns they have their fair share of tramps.
Quote from: spuds on March 13, 2011, 08:22:00 PM
Would these few crazy estates about Craigavon be considered the exception rather than the norm for towns about that area ?
Portadown always seemed to get the bad publicity during the troubles. Do the towns of Portadown, Craigavon and Lurgan have their own identity or are they linked as the one urban area ?
They all have their own identity. The plan in the 60s when Craigavon was built was to develop the space between Lurgan and Portadown and link the whole lot up to form a new city. They built half of what was planned, and half of what they built was demolished. Some of my earliest memories are of being driven through Craigavon in the late 70s after the big population increase failed to show up. Acre after acre of derelict housing estates, tiles falling off the roofs, any window that wasn't boarded up was smashed, graffiti everywhere. It was like Beiruit.
It had a lot of other problems too, like radical new ideas about housing being implemented on a large scale without proper testing. There was an estate called Ridgeway (now long since demolished) where the walls might as well have been made of cardboard, they reckon you could hear the conversation next door as if it were in your own living room.
The bit about segregated bike/pedestrian paths was nice in theory and it looks great on a summer's day, but in reality it's hard to beat a proper street where there's plenty of people about to keep an eye on things. You wouldn't want to go down some of them bike paths late at night, you'd be taking your life in your hands.
Jim Carlisle shot outside a primary school in Craigavon this afternoon.
My two nephews go to the school (my old primary school), but thank god they get out at 2pm, not 3pm.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35864018
Probably a revenge shooting?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 14, 2011, 01:50:54 AM
Quote from: spuds on March 13, 2011, 08:22:00 PM
Would these few crazy estates about Craigavon be considered the exception rather than the norm for towns about that area ?
Portadown always seemed to get the bad publicity during the troubles. Do the towns of Portadown, Craigavon and Lurgan have their own identity or are they linked as the one urban area ?
They all have their own identity. The plan in the 60s when Craigavon was built was to develop the space between Lurgan and Portadown and link the whole lot up to form a new city. They built half of what was planned, and half of what they built was demolished. Some of my earliest memories are of being driven through Craigavon in the late 70s after the big population increase failed to show up. Acre after acre of derelict housing estates, tiles falling off the roofs, any window that wasn't boarded up was smashed, graffiti everywhere. It was like Beiruit.
It had a lot of other problems too, like radical new ideas about housing being implemented on a large scale without proper testing. There was an estate called Ridgeway (now long since demolished) where the walls might as well have been made of cardboard, they reckon you could hear the conversation next door as if it were in your own living room.
The bit about segregated bike/pedestrian paths was nice in theory and it looks great on a summer's day, but in reality it's hard to beat a proper street where there's plenty of people about to keep an eye on things. You wouldn't want to go down some of them bike paths late at night, you'd be taking your life in your hands.
the breakdown in 1969 and the oil crisis killed a lot of postwar optimism in planning. Shannon was supposed to have 20k by 1980 but ended up with 8k.
The man shot is well known to the police and to everyone else as his name is continually in the local paper for criminal offences, I just hope there are no retaliations for this shooting as i'm sure some innocent soul will get caught up in it.
Quote from: illdecide on March 22, 2016, 11:11:32 AM
The man shot is well known to the police and to everyone else as his name is continually in the local paper for criminal offences, I just hope there are no retaliations for this shooting as i'm sure some innocent soul will get caught up in it.
If he is a hood then good enough for him, that said wtf are they doing shooting him at a school, what scumbags they are
Man shot dead in Waringstown last night... One of Jim's mates :D
Quote from: Ulick on March 11, 2011, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: dillinger on March 10, 2011, 10:44:13 PM
Glad to hear it's only Loyalists who deal in drugs. :o
The Legahory hoods have always been supplied by loyalists (mainly LVF from the Parkmore estate) over the past 25 years from 'Bonanze' when he was there, to the Marno brothers, Billy Wirght, the McNally brothers, the McKeowns and latter day Jim Carlises (father and son). They are all the lowest form of life you could ever find and each an every one of them up to their armpits in various loyalist groupings - if you don't believe my try Googling any one of them. The McKeown brothers are a particularly hateful bunch of c***ts - one convicted of murdering Catholic teenager Bernadette Martin by shooting her in the head as she slept and another convicted of murdering Catholic taxi driver Michael McGoldrick. Hugh McGeough was every bit as bad. The link below draws attention to an attempt on his life by one of his former mates. The dispute in the article was nothing to do with with McGeough murdering the teenager but a mere fallout over the division of drugs, money and guns between themselves.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/thug-boss-13905828.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/thug-boss-13905828.html)
For years the RUC let these c***ts run around murdering any Fenian they could lay their hands on, all the while turning a blind eye to their drug dealing. You'll not find many round Lurgan or Craigavon who would shed tears over any of them.
Mal McKeown gone then.