Any of you changed from run flat back to ordinary tyres?i have to replace two on my car and there are the guts of £200 each,i was wondering would it make much of a difference in regards handling etc?
No, nothing you'd notice, as long as they're the same size/profile
and you keep them paired on the same axle.
And what if you get a flat, I presume you have no spare. Seems very expensive too, mine were 110 euro each.
I had to google what these are - but found this information from wikipedia interesting regarding market share...
Run-flat tires accounted for less than 1% of replacement tire sales in the U.S. in 2005. In 2006, it was expected that such tires would gain popularity with armored vehicle manufacturers, but growth figures were slow with one major model, the Michelin PAX, being discontinued by the manufacturer.[1] A Michelin study released in 2008 found that only 3 percent of drivers worldwide want run-flat tires. U.S. market share is well below 1 percent. American Honda Motor Co. announced that the 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and Acura RL were its last models available with run-flat tires and with Honda no longer using run-flats. This leaves only a handful of volume manufacturers offering them as standard fittings and only on some models. An exception is BMW, who are the largest fitter of run-flats as original equipment.[2]
TO - I blew a tire yesterday on the kerb, and was about to put two new ones on the front (tires are a year old and in good shape) when someone suggested going to a used tire exchange and only replacing the one. I was quoted 2 tires by Big O tires for 311$ but got out the door at the other place with a slightly used (about the same as my own tires) Michelin for $51 mounted and balanced. I know its not what the big places tell you you should do i.e. keep all tires on the same axle the same - but honestly - how much have I really sinned by doing this?
Quote from: Puckoon on February 15, 2011, 06:30:04 PM
I had to google what these are - but found this information from wikipedia interesting regarding market share...
Run-flat tires accounted for less than 1% of replacement tire sales in the U.S. in 2005. In 2006, it was expected that such tires would gain popularity with armored vehicle manufacturers, but growth figures were slow with one major model, the Michelin PAX, being discontinued by the manufacturer.[1] A Michelin study released in 2008 found that only 3 percent of drivers worldwide want run-flat tires. U.S. market share is well below 1 percent. American Honda Motor Co. announced that the 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and Acura RL were its last models available with run-flat tires and with Honda no longer using run-flats. This leaves only a handful of volume manufacturers offering them as standard fittings and only on some models. An exception is BMW, who are the largest fitter of run-flats as original equipment.[2]
TO - I blew a tire yesterday on the kerb, and was about to put two new ones on the front (tires are a year old and in good shape) when someone suggested going to a used tire exchange and only replacing the one. I was quoted 2 tires by Big O tires for 311$ but got out the door at the other place with a slightly used (about the same as my own tires) Michelin for $51 mounted and balanced. I know its not what the big places tell you you should do i.e. keep all tires on the same axle the same - but honestly - how much have I really sinned by doing this?
I only ever replace them one at a time as they're needed.
A shite over-priced gimmick by BMW. When one burst I could not tell which one was gone
I wouldn't worry about it...i'd have done the same thing.
About the same axle stuff, only brought that up because
of the run flat tire question above.
Perhaps you need to get your steering wheel fixed too if you're driving into kerbs Puck? ;)
A bloody cats eye caused one of mine to go a couple of years ago
It was a fecking disaster OG. Did it in the car park at work. My car has an awful turn radius, and sometimes Im impatient. Best of it was that Id hit a kerb on Saturday and gotten a (fairly nice) lecture from her indoors - complete with the warning that "You're going to bust a tire if you keep going over that kerb". Sure enough it went yesterday.
Maybe its her fault for putting that out there in the universe...
Quote from: Puckoon on February 15, 2011, 11:25:16 PM
It was a fecking disaster OG. Did it in the car park at work. My car has an awful turn radius, and sometimes Im impatient. Best of it was that Id hit a kerb on Saturday and gotten a (fairly nice) lecture from her indoors - complete with the warning that "You're going to bust a tire if you keep going over that kerb". Sure enough it went yesterday.
Maybe its her fault for putting that out there in the universe...
Tut tut Puck if you know anything about psychology you'll know an external locus of control is the path to trouble. We're all in charge of our own destiny! ;)
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
And what if you get a flat, I presume you have no spare. Seems very expensive too, mine were 110 euro each.
suppose i could buy a spare,my wheels are 18" which jump dramactically in price from 17",and heres me thinking a inch wouldnt make that much difference ;).
the thing is one of my tyres puntured last wednesday and only changed it yesterday so the run flats are handy in that you dont have to try and change a wheel along the side of a busy road
Quote from: isourboydownyet on February 16, 2011, 09:03:37 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
And what if you get a flat, I presume you have no spare. Seems very expensive too, mine were 110 euro each.
suppose i could buy a spare,my wheels are 18" which jump dramactically in price from 17",and heres me thinking a inch wouldnt make that much difference ;).
the thing is one of my tyres puntured last wednesday and only changed it yesterday so the run flats are handy in that you dont have to try and change a wheel along the side of a busy road
IIRC the run flats on bmw's sell for around €500 each !!!
was looking at a bmw 5 series a few years ago and thats the pice the salesman told me the tyres were when I asked him about run flats !
:o
Should rename this the BMW Drivers are twats easily ripped off thread :D
well this thread is useful - as if I ever did get a few bob after this recession and decided to waste it on a car, then I could avoid the run flats and stick on ordinary tyres instead and save a fortune !
that €3600 saved
just need to save the 20 odd grand to buy the second hand 5 series !!
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 16, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
well this thread is useful - as if I ever did get a few bob after this recession and decided to waste it on a car, then I could avoid the run flats and stick on ordinary tyres instead and save a fortune !
that €3600 saved
just need to save the 20 odd grand to buy the second hand 5 series !!
Good idea except there is no room for a spare in the boot of a 5 series o(hence the runflats) so if you get a puncture on a Sunday morning what are you going to do?
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2011, 01:17:41 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 16, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
well this thread is useful - as if I ever did get a few bob after this recession and decided to waste it on a car, then I could avoid the run flats and stick on ordinary tyres instead and save a fortune !
that €3600 saved
just need to save the 20 odd grand to buy the second hand 5 series !!
Good idea except there is no room for a spare in the boot of a 5 series o(hence the runflats) so if you get a puncture on a Sunday morning what are you going to do?
yes there is!
There's usually a spare in the driver's seat.
My apolgies if there is, I have a 320d (new model) and there is no room for a spare in that so I assumed it was across the whole range.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2011, 02:15:18 PM
My apolgies if there is, I have a 320d (new model) and there is no room for a spare in that so I assumed it was across the whole range.
have the car 3 years now and didnt think so myself until i lifted the boot mat and there room left for a full size wheel,as you say they might have done away with this on the new models though
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2011, 01:17:41 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 16, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
well this thread is useful - as if I ever did get a few bob after this recession and decided to waste it on a car, then I could avoid the run flats and stick on ordinary tyres instead and save a fortune !
that €3600 saved
just need to save the 20 odd grand to buy the second hand 5 series !!
Good idea except there is no room for a spare in the boot of a 5 series o(hence the runflats) so if you get a puncture on a Sunday morning what are you going to do?
I don't know what these tyres are but would the auld can of tyre weld not do the trick, i've no spare on my car, but have a few cans of that lying in the boot (manufacturer supplied, but can be bought for tuppence in most supermarkets).
Quote from: Bogball XV on February 16, 2011, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2011, 01:17:41 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 16, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
well this thread is useful - as if I ever did get a few bob after this recession and decided to waste it on a car, then I could avoid the run flats and stick on ordinary tyres instead and save a fortune !
that €3600 saved
just need to save the 20 odd grand to buy the second hand 5 series !!
Good idea except there is no room for a spare in the boot of a 5 series o(hence the runflats) so if you get a puncture on a Sunday morning what are you going to do?
I don't know what these tyres are but would the auld can of tyre weld not do the trick, i've no spare on my car, but have a few cans of that lying in the boot (manufacturer supplied, but can be bought for tuppence in most supermarkets).
when a run flat is fucked,it's proper fucked! so beyond repair and has to be replaced
Quote from: isourboydownyet on February 16, 2011, 02:56:37 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on February 16, 2011, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2011, 01:17:41 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 16, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
well this thread is useful - as if I ever did get a few bob after this recession and decided to waste it on a car, then I could avoid the run flats and stick on ordinary tyres instead and save a fortune !
that €3600 saved
just need to save the 20 odd grand to buy the second hand 5 series !!
Good idea except there is no room for a spare in the boot of a 5 series o(hence the runflats) so if you get a puncture on a Sunday morning what are you going to do?
I don't know what these tyres are but would the auld can of tyre weld not do the trick, i've no spare on my car, but have a few cans of that lying in the boot (manufacturer supplied, but can be bought for tuppence in most supermarkets).
when a run flat is fucked,it's proper fucked! so beyond repair and has to be replaced
I have heard of lads plugging them but you are not supposed to but it hard to see why you shouldn't. If the plug comes out sure you'll just be back where you started!
Quote from: Hardy on February 16, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
There's usually a spare in the driver's seat.
That would be the tube in myles' case ;D
How do Run flat tyres work? Do they have tyre weld inside that gets activated if there is a leak?
QuoteI have heard of lads plugging them but you are not supposed to but it hard to see why you shouldn't. If the plug comes out sure you'll just be back where you started.
Is this not how you fix punctures on tubeless tyres anyway and would it not be converting your Run Flay tyre to a Tubeless tyre? But would it be safe?
Runflats just have thicker walls, they are tubeless
Hi. I have been looking on here for a while but never felt the need to post until now. I am starting a new business next week as a supplier of part worn tyres. I can supply runflats or regular tyres at a fraction of the price. Minimum thread depth of 4mm. Based in Ballygawley.
No need to replace runflats, just use regular tyre and carry repair kit that goes in through the valve.
Quote from: GJL on February 16, 2011, 10:19:03 PM
Hi. I have been looking on here for a while but never felt the need to post until now. I am starting a new business next week as a supplier of part worn tyres. I can supply runflats or regular tyres at a fraction of the price. Minimum thread depth of 4mm. Based in Ballygawley.
No need to replace runflats, just use regular tyre and carry repair kit that goes in through the valve.
Best of luck and keep posting. Being from Tyrone, you are bound to have strong opinions.
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 16, 2011, 10:26:53 PM
Quote from: GJL on February 16, 2011, 10:19:03 PM
Hi. I have been looking on here for a while but never felt the need to post until now. I am starting a new business next week as a supplier of part worn tyres. I can supply runflats or regular tyres at a fraction of the price. Minimum thread depth of 4mm. Based in Ballygawley.
No need to replace runflats, just use regular tyre and carry repair kit that goes in through the valve.
Best of luck and keep posting. Being from Tyrone, you are bound to have strong opinions.
Thanks.......I think.
Just from a business perspective would you not be better suited calling them slightly used (or something similar) as opposed to part worn??
Part Worn is the common nomenclature for these tyres. Slightly used sounds dodgy (don't know why?).
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 17, 2011, 03:59:46 PM
Part Worn is the common nomenclature for these tyres. Slightly used sounds dodgy (don't know why?).
Agree...it's tyres he's selling not ironing boards!
Thats very strange to me. Worn to me sounds like its past the point of use. You'd say the thread was worn down. I like my tires slightly used! :)
Like Denn forever said, these tyres are commonly known as part worn. Sounds ok to me. Pm me with any requests or price inquires. We will have most sizes from 14inch to 20inch. Big saving over the price of new and all good European makes. No rubbish from china.
I recieved a load of 1500 tyres today. Any requests? Most sizes available at very cheap prices. 5mm+ thread on most. Located in Ballygawley, Tyrone. ;)
How much would you take for all 1500 of them?
well i ended up putting on 4 new ordinary tyres and getting rid of the run flats and bought a space saver,not only does it work out a hell of alot cheaper but the difference in comfort is unbelieveable!!