Taken from yesterday's paper, says the rankings were based on talent, commitment, success, form and longevity.
1 C Cooper
2 T O'Se
3 S Cavanagh
4 B Dooher
5 P Joyce
6 Declan O'Sullivan
7 S McDonnell
8 M O'Se
9 G Canty
10 S Cluxton
11 S O'Neill
12 B Brogan
13 P Jordan
14 P Galvin
15 K Donaghy
16 B Coulter
17 A Brogan
18 J Doyle
19 C Gormley
20 D Earley
21 M Forde
22 M Meehan
23 R McMenamin
24 P Bradley
25 O Mulligan
26 N Murphy
27 J Galvin
28 T O'Sullivan
29 R Clarke
30 D Goulding
31 M Clarke
32 Joe McMahon
33 A Quirke
34 Brian McGuigan
35 Ciaran McManus
36 D Dolan
37 T Freeman
38 Michael Murphy
39 E O'Hara
40 M Shields
41 S Bray
42 K Cassidy
43 K Lacey
44 A Dillon
45 P Keenan
46 J Sheridan
47 N McNamee
48 C McKeever
49 K Young
50 A Kernan
51 J Kavangh
52 D Harte
53 N Crawford
54 Justin McMahon
55 P O'Neill
56 B Cahill
57 D O'Connor
58 G Connaughton
59 D Kelly
60 Danny Hughes
61 M McGrath
62 L Glynn
63 D Shine
64 S Johnston
65 P Finlay
66 P Griffin
67 T Griffin
68 E Bolton
69 A Lynch
70 P McConnell
71 N O'Leary
72 G O'Kane
73 J Bergin
74 S Scanlon
75 D Henry
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
78 I Ryan
79 P Kerrigan
80 C Lyng
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
83 J McKeon
84 Mick McCann
85 K Reilly
86 E Bradley
87 P McMahon (Laois)
88 B McVeigh
89 K Higgins
90 P Hearty
91 F Hanley
92 D Clerkin
93 R Munnelly
94 D Clarke
95 T Walsh (Carlow)
96 P Barden
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
That was a mission typing those out.
Michael Shields only at No 40 jumps out straight away....He'd be in my top 20 at least ???
I HATE these fuckin' lists.
You could chop them up a hundred ways and still argue the case.
Wouldn't waste my breath getting contentious on its ass
How does one decide that Philip Jordan is 13 and Ricey is 23??
Interesting list but hard to work out why it's in the order it's in... Cooper no.1 fair enough
Ronan Clarke ahead of Marty Clarke....someone is having a steffi graf.
Quote from: The Worker on January 09, 2011, 06:48:04 PM
Ronan Clarke ahead of Marty Clarke....someone is having a steffi graf.
The opening post said it was based on
talent, commitment, success, form and longevity. How long has Marty Clarke been playing? How many senior Ulster or AI titles does he have? Ronan Clarke should surely be ahead of him at this stage.
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 09, 2011, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: The Worker on January 09, 2011, 06:48:04 PM
Ronan Clarke ahead of Marty Clarke....someone is having a steffi graf.
The opening post said it was based on talent, commitment, success, form and longevity. How long has Marty Clarke been playing? How many senior Ulster or AI titles does he have? Ronan Clarke should surely be ahead of him at this stage.
And Ronan Clarke is well ahead of Marty Clarke under all those headings!
Longevity shouldn't have come into this. It skews the whole thing sideways, and puts a greater emphasis on many seasons of decent standards rather than what it's meant to be, naming who the stars of the game are.
In compiling rankings, I'd use one key marker. When kids from a county at the opposite end ofthe country are playing football, how many want to be him?
Is C McManus Monaghan's Conor McManus? If so, whilst he has the talent, i'm not sure he stacks up in the other categories at this stage in his career above Tommy. Similarly whilst Darren Hughes is a great talent, I wouldn't rank him above Finlay at this stage. McManus and Hughes both have potential to be the backbone of the Monaghan team over the next 5-10 years, but it's probably a bit premature to be ranking them above the others.
35 C McManus
37 T Freeman
60 D Hughes
65 P Finlay
82 D Freeman
92 D Clerkin
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2011, 07:00:11 PM
Longevity shouldn't have come into this. It skews the whole thing sideways, and puts a greater emphasis on many seasons of decent standards rather than what it's meant to be, naming who the stars of the game are.
In compiling rankings, I'd use one key marker. When kids from a county at the opposite end ofthe country are playing football, how many want to be him?
That's who has the highest profile. There are great players in weak counties that kids at the other end of the country would never have heard of. For example, what kids in Cork or Kerry were running around pretending to be Barry Owens five years ago?
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 09, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
Is C McManus Monaghan's Conor McManus?
Nope. Ciarán McManus of Offaly.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on January 09, 2011, 07:04:39 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 09, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
Is C McManus Monaghan's Conor McManus?
Nope. Ciarán McManus of Offaly.
Ah right, that explains it!
Don J, type that out again with full names and counties. :P
10 possible Players missing from the List
Neil Gallagher
Aidan Walsh
Padraig Clancy
Fergal Doherty
Ciaran Hyland
Redmond Barry
John O'Brien
Colm McFadden
Alan Costello
Brian Kavanagh
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 09, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
Is C McManus Monaghan's Conor McManus? If so, whilst he has the talent, i'm not sure he stacks up in the other categories at this stage in his career above Tommy. Similarly whilst Darren Hughes is a great talent, I wouldn't rank him above Finlay at this stage. McManus and Hughes both have potential to be the backbone of the Monaghan team over the next 5-10 years, but it's probably a bit premature to be ranking them above the others.
35 C McManus
37 T Freeman
60 D Hughes
65 P Finlay
82 D Freeman
92 D Clerkin
60 was Danny Hughes, I should have made that clearer sorry.
Quote from: Don Johnson on January 09, 2011, 07:16:47 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 09, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
Is C McManus Monaghan's Conor McManus? If so, whilst he has the talent, i'm not sure he stacks up in the other categories at this stage in his career above Tommy. Similarly whilst Darren Hughes is a great talent, I wouldn't rank him above Finlay at this stage. McManus and Hughes both have potential to be the backbone of the Monaghan team over the next 5-10 years, but it's probably a bit premature to be ranking them above the others.
35 C McManus
37 T Freeman
60 D Hughes
65 P Finlay
82 D Freeman
92 D Clerkin
60 was Danny Hughes, I should have made that clearer sorry.
It all makes a lot more sense now!
Dublin have more players in the top 20 than Connacht combined and Cork have only one in the top 25. How does that work?
And how is Gooch ahead of Larry Reilly??
Quote from: sammymaguire on January 09, 2011, 06:42:44 PM
How does one decide that Philip Jordan is 13 and Ricey is 23??
Interesting list but hard to work out why it's in the order it's in... Cooper no.1 fair enough
Hard to argue with Jordan being ahead of Ricey. Probably doesn't always get the recognition he deserves, one of Tyrone's most important players in recent years.
Where forwards are concerned, any proper manager would have Gooch first, Michael Meehan second, a long way ahead of any others about at present.
Quote from: mattockranger on January 09, 2011, 07:13:05 PM
10 possible Players missing from the List
Neil Gallagher
Aidan Walsh
Padraig Clancy
Fergal Doherty
Ciaran Hyland
Redmond Barry
John O'Brien
Colm McFadden
Alan Costello
Brian Kavanagh
Colm McFadden must be one of the most inconsistent players about. Brian Kavanagh wouldn't be far off this either.
Alan Costello very young yet as with Aidan Walsh.
Wouldn't agree on Redmond Barry - good footballer but not brilliant.
Don't know who John O'Brien and Ciaran Hyland are though Clancy and Doherty would maybe merit their inclusion.
John O'Brien - Louth and Ciaran Hyland - Wicklow
Quote from: mouview on January 09, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
Where forwards are concerned, any proper manager would have Gooch first, Michael Meehan second, a long way ahead of any others about at present.
Ahead of Bernard Brogan?
Don't be silly.
QuoteThat's who has the highest profile. There are great players in weak counties that kids at the other end of the country would never have heard of. For example, what kids in Cork or Kerry were running around pretending to be Barry Owens five years ago?
Surely the stars of the game should have the highest profile?
For my money, Bernard Brogan is the de facto superstar of our game at this time. He doesn't need 5 years of football and 2 All Irelands to take this honour, just the right combination of skills and profile.
Surely the person who compiles the list is allowed to use his own criteria?
Jordan is ahead of Ricey 100/100. (in my book)
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2011, 10:22:54 PM
QuoteThat's who has the highest profile. There are great players in weak counties that kids at the other end of the country would never have heard of. For example, what kids in Cork or Kerry were running around pretending to be Barry Owens five years ago?
Surely the stars of the game should have the highest profile?
This list was based on talent, commitment, success, form and longevity, and whatever about the merits of some of those criteria, I don't think 'profile' adds anything of worth.
And if we go on the basis of profile, then the #1 star of our game is arguably Paul Galvin, with every other player miles behind.
Mostly right O Neill, but when you're going to entitle it the 'stars if the game', then it should reflect that title and not invove some sort of ageing socialist style methods to avoid offending people.
Using the same criteria in the Premiership would see the likes of Jamie Carragher, Patrick Vieira, and Gary Neville in the top 10.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2011, 10:36:49 PM
Mostly right O Neill, but when you're going to entitle it the 'stars if the game', then it should reflect that title and not invove some sort of ageing socialist style methods to avoid offending people.
Using the same criteria in the Premiership would see the likes of Jamie Carragher, Patrick Vieira, and Gary Neville in the top 10.
Right. My interpretation would be different to yours. I don't subscribe to the modern definition of a 'star', i.e. the flavour of the month.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2011, 10:36:49 PM
Mostly right O Neill, but when you're going to entitle it the 'stars if the game', then it should reflect that title and not invove some sort of ageing socialist style methods to avoid offending people.
I'm not so sure. If a county player is still going strong 10+ years later, they must be doing something right. I don't think it's about not offending people.
O Neill, this isn't a 'modern' thing.
Stars are the box office; the people who put bums on seats, the people who generate column inches, those who can influence by the simple act of doing. This is nothing to with sport, nor the times we live in - it's basic public reach and it extends to all fields in life.
Best players, most important players, they're something different.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2011, 10:46:34 PM
O Neill, this isn't a 'modern' thing.
Stars are the box office; the people who put bums on seats, the people who generate column inches, those who can influence by the simple act of doing. This is nothing to with sport, nor the times we live in - it's basic public reach and it extends to all fields in life.
Best players, most important players, they're something different.
But you have adopted the modern definition as created by the mass media and accepted by the teenagers today, a shorthand for those who sell papers. Christy Ring was a star of 1940s hurling. Now, I've no idea of what column inches he generated or how his actions influenced the 1940s populace. All I know was he was one of the top hurlers of that generation for a variety of reasons, one of which was longevity. The word 'star' may not have been used then.
Quote from: mattockranger on January 09, 2011, 07:13:05 PM
Padraig Clancy
The Laois one? Yer having a laugh he hasn't played well for Laois for a long time
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 09, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
Is C McManus Monaghan's Conor McManus? If so, whilst he has the talent, i'm not sure he stacks up in the other categories at this stage in his career above Tommy. Similarly whilst Darren Hughes is a great talent, I wouldn't rank him above Finlay at this stage. McManus and Hughes both have potential to be the backbone of the Monaghan team over the next 5-10 years, but it's probably a bit premature to be ranking them above the others.
35 C McManus
37 T Freeman
60 D Hughes
65 P Finlay
82 D Freeman
92 D Clerkin
Did you really think Monaghan would have 6 men in that list!!!!
Quote from: Jinxy on January 09, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: mouview on January 09, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
Where forwards are concerned, any proper manager would have Gooch first, Michael Meehan second, a long way ahead of any others about at present.
Ahead of Bernard Brogan?
Don't be silly.
A good bit ahead. Meehan a far better finisher. Brogan built up by Dublin-centric media.
The mind actually boggles.
That list is all over the shop
-Im a big Brian Dooher fan,and he has been magnificant over the past decade,but he slowed up a tremendous amount in 2010,so number 4 is too high.
-Bernard Brogan is far too low at number 12,He should be in the top 3
-Owen Mulligan at number 25,ahead of the likes of Alan Dillon, John Galvin, Niall McNamee??
Definetly if this list were being made in 2008,but all 3 of those are in my opinion way ahead of Mulligan at present.
-I may be biased and all due respect to them but
Tom O Sullivan
Nigel Crawford
Barry Cahill being picked
ahead of Seanie Johnson and Donie Shine??? Bullshit
Quote from: Jinxy on January 10, 2011, 12:30:22 AM
The mind actually boggles.
I am amazed.
I'd have Meehan number 1.
Quote from: mouview on January 10, 2011, 12:23:05 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 09, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: mouview on January 09, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
Where forwards are concerned, any proper manager would have Gooch first, Michael Meehan second, a long way ahead of any others about at present.
Ahead of Bernard Brogan?
Don't be silly.
A good bit ahead. Meehan a far better finisher. Brogan built up by Dublin-centric media.
What did Meehan ever win?
Did he ever even play past a Senior All Ireland Quarter Final?
Has he an All-Star?
Quote from: AbbeySider on January 10, 2011, 09:17:30 AM
Quote from: mouview on January 10, 2011, 12:23:05 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 09, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: mouview on January 09, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
Where forwards are concerned, any proper manager would have Gooch first, Michael Meehan second, a long way ahead of any others about at present.
Ahead of Bernard Brogan?
Don't be silly.
A good bit ahead. Meehan a far better finisher. Brogan built up by Dublin-centric media.
What did Meehan ever win?
Did he ever even play past a Senior All Ireland Quarter Final?
Has he an All-Star?
Meehan won AI colleges, 2 U-21 finals and a club AI, and was pivotal in all victories. Has always been excellent for Galway, even when surrounded by mediocrity. Remember his tour-de-force v Kerry on the wet day a few years ago? Also had great games v Cork in the 2005 1/4 final and Donegal in 2003 (his substitution in the latter, drawn game was O'Mahoney's single biggest mistake as Galway manager as it swung the game Donegal's way)
Er. what has Brogan won?
Nicholas Murphy at number 26 !!!, he would'nt have even made the top 200 in Darragh's day.
The glory days must be coming to an end with only 2 in the top 3 for us, yerra it was a great 10 years I suppose.
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 10, 2011, 01:10:29 AM
That list is all over the shop
-Im a big Brian Dooher fan,and he has been magnificant over the past decade,but he slowed up a tremendous amount in 2010,so number 4 is too high.
-Bernard Brogan is far too low at number 12,He should be in the top 3
-Owen Mulligan at number 25,ahead of the likes of Alan Dillon, John Galvin, Niall McNamee??
Definetly if this list were being made in 2008,but all 3 of those are in my opinion way ahead of Mulligan at present.
-I may be biased and all due respect to them but
Tom O Sullivan
Nigel Crawford
Barry Cahill being picked
ahead of Seanie Johnson and Donie Shine??? Bullshit
:D
Quote from: Don Johnson on January 09, 2011, 05:11:54 PM
Taken from yesterday's paper, says the rankings were based on talent, commitment, success, form and longevity.
1 C Cooper
2 T O'Se
3 S Cavanagh
4 B Dooher
5 P Joyce
6 Declan O'Sullivan
7 S McDonnell
8 M O'Se
9 G Canty
10 S Cluxton
11 S O'Neill
12 B Brogan
13 P Jordan
14 P Galvin
15 K Donaghy
16 B Coulter
17 A Brogan
18 J Doyle
19 C Gormley
20 D Earley
21 M Forde
22 M Meehan
23 R McMenamin
24 P Bradley
25 O Mulligan
26 N Murphy
27 J Galvin
28 T O'Sullivan
29 R Clarke
30 D Goulding
31 M Clarke
32 Joe McMahon
33 A Quirke
34 Brian McGuigan
35 Ciaran McManus
36 D Dolan
37 T Freeman
38 Michael Murphy
39 E O'Hara
40 M Shields
41 S Bray
42 K Cassidy
43 K Lacey
44 A Dillon
45 P Keenan
46 J Sheridan
47 N McNamee
48 C McKeever
49 K Young
50 A Kernan
51 J Kavangh
52 D Harte
53 N Crawford
54 Justin McMahon
55 P O'Neill
56 B Cahill
57 D O'Connor
58 G Connaughton
59 D Kelly
60 Danny Hughes
61 M McGrath
62 L Glynn
63 D Shine
64 S Johnston
65 P Finlay
66 P Griffin
67 T Griffin
68 E Bolton
69 A Lynch
70 P McConnell
71 N O'Leary
72 G O'Kane
73 J Bergin
74 S Scanlon
75 D Henry
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
78 I Ryan
79 P Kerrigan
80 C Lyng
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
83 J McKeon
84 Mick McCann
85 K Reilly
86 E Bradley
87 P McMahon (Laois)
88 B McVeigh
89 K Higgins
90 P Hearty
91 F Hanley
92 D Clerkin
93 R Munnelly
94 D Clarke
95 T Walsh (Carlow)
96 P Barden
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
That was a mission typing those out.
I know it is merely a discussion point, such lists, but Michael Meehan at 22? He's in the top 5 for me with Gooch, T O Se, Galvin and Dooher. And how on earth Trevor Mortimer made the list is quite simply beyond me.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 10, 2011, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on January 09, 2011, 05:11:54 PM
Taken from yesterday's paper, says the rankings were based on talent, commitment, success, form and longevity.
1 C Cooper
2 T O'Se
3 S Cavanagh
4 B Dooher
5 P Joyce
6 Declan O'Sullivan
7 S McDonnell
8 M O'Se
9 G Canty
10 S Cluxton
11 S O'Neill
12 B Brogan
13 P Jordan
14 P Galvin
15 K Donaghy
16 B Coulter
17 A Brogan
18 J Doyle
19 C Gormley
20 D Earley
21 M Forde
22 M Meehan
23 R McMenamin
24 P Bradley
25 O Mulligan
26 N Murphy
27 J Galvin
28 T O'Sullivan
29 R Clarke
30 D Goulding
31 M Clarke
32 Joe McMahon
33 A Quirke
34 Brian McGuigan
35 Ciaran McManus
36 D Dolan
37 T Freeman
38 Michael Murphy
39 E O'Hara
40 M Shields
41 S Bray
42 K Cassidy
43 K Lacey
44 A Dillon
45 P Keenan
46 J Sheridan
47 N McNamee
48 C McKeever
49 K Young
50 A Kernan
51 J Kavangh
52 D Harte
53 N Crawford
54 Justin McMahon
55 P O'Neill
56 B Cahill
57 D O'Connor
58 G Connaughton
59 D Kelly
60 Danny Hughes
61 M McGrath
62 L Glynn
63 D Shine
64 S Johnston
65 P Finlay
66 P Griffin
67 T Griffin
68 E Bolton
69 A Lynch
70 P McConnell
71 N O'Leary
72 G O'Kane
73 J Bergin
74 S Scanlon
75 D Henry
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
78 I Ryan
79 P Kerrigan
80 C Lyng
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
83 J McKeon
84 Mick McCann
85 K Reilly
86 E Bradley
87 P McMahon (Laois)
88 B McVeigh
89 K Higgins
90 P Hearty
91 F Hanley
92 D Clerkin
93 R Munnelly
94 D Clarke
95 T Walsh (Carlow)
96 P Barden
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
That was a mission typing those out.
I know it is merely a discussion point, such lists, but Michael Meehan at 22? He's in the top 5 for me with Gooch, T O Se, Galvin and Dooher. And how on earth Trevor Mortimer made the list is quite simply beyond me.
I think Meehan would probably be higher only he missed most of last year with his injury. A pity as he was in terrific form. He roasted Michael Shields down in Cork in the league and and was doing a similiar job on Kerry in Salthill until he banjaxed his knee while scoring a goal in that game.
Nice to see 2 Cross lads on the list but you I would have to say that, even though he may not be still playing county, given his form for Cross in rfecent months Oisin would be a decent shout in front of the likes of Trevor Mortimor and Ross Munnelly. Lets face it what have they really done in the last 3-4 years to warrant inclusion.
John Galvin should be higher up than 27.
I also think Meehan is among the top 5 in the country. Wonderful forward. IMO better than Cooper as he is a hell of a lot stronger and cant be intimidated out of a game. On last years form as well as talent, B Brogan deserves to be be vying for top spot with meehan.
also K Donaghy in that top 25 ...????
would have Paul galvin in my top 5
actually there'd prob be ten players in my 'top 5' !!! :D
IS Antony Lynch still playing for Cork?
Quote from: rrhf on January 10, 2011, 02:16:12 PM
IS Antony Lynch still playing for Cork?
Yes, he'd be the last man to let them down.
Quote from: muppet on January 10, 2011, 02:20:04 PM
Quote from: rrhf on January 10, 2011, 02:16:12 PM
IS Antony Lynch still playing for Cork?
Yes, he'd be the last man to let them down.
Are his people undertakers or something?
Did McGourty opt out the list??? I read the Irish news everyday and the propaganda has me believing he must be one of the best in the land
None of the following would make my list:
23 R McMenamin
28 T O'Sullivan
34 B McGuigan
37 T Freeman
52 D Harte
58 G Connaughton
61 M McGrath
65 P Finlay
67 T Griffin
70 P McConnell
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
79 P Kerrigan
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
90 P Hearty
92 D Clerkin
94 D Clarke
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 10, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
None of the following would make my list:
23 R McMenamin
28 T O'Sullivan
34 B McGuigan
37 T Freeman
52 D Harte
58 G Connaughton
61 M McGrath
65 P Finlay
67 T Griffin
70 P McConnell
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
79 P Kerrigan
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
90 P Hearty
92 D Clerkin
94 D Clarke
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
So not one current Monaghan player would make your top 100 current players?
Quote from: leaveherinsir on January 09, 2011, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 09, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
Is C McManus Monaghan's Conor McManus? If so, whilst he has the talent, i'm not sure he stacks up in the other categories at this stage in his career above Tommy. Similarly whilst Darren Hughes is a great talent, I wouldn't rank him above Finlay at this stage. McManus and Hughes both have potential to be the backbone of the Monaghan team over the next 5-10 years, but it's probably a bit premature to be ranking them above the others.
35 C McManus
37 T Freeman
60 D Hughes
65 P Finlay
82 D Freeman
92 D Clerkin
Did you really think Monaghan would have 6 men in that list!!!!
Was that meant to be a question? 6 players for a Division 1 team is hardly that exceptional. Although you might have read my doubts over two of the players, or at least their position on the list.
Was meant to be a joke, but dont worry about it! Ill give you two, T.Freeman and P.Finlay.
You'se would have some representation on the 100 Dirtiest players of Today tho! ;)
Quote from: leaveherinsir on January 10, 2011, 09:24:26 PM
Was meant to be a joke, but dont worry about it! Ill give you two, T.Freeman and P.Finlay.
You'se would have some representation on the 100 Dirtiest players of Today tho! ;)
I'd like to think so!
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 10, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
None of the following would make my list:
23 R McMenamin
28 T O'Sullivan
34 B McGuigan
37 T Freeman
52 D Harte
58 G Connaughton
61 M McGrath
65 P Finlay
67 T Griffin
70 P McConnell
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
79 P Kerrigan
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
90 P Hearty
92 D Clerkin
94 D Clarke
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
Indeed, but you'll struggle to find 22 replacements.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 01:29:28 PM
Nice to see 2 Cross lads on the list but you I would have to say that, even though he may not be still playing county, given his form for Cross in rfecent months Oisin would be a decent shout in front of the likes of Trevor Mortimor and Ross Munnelly. Lets face it what have they really done in the last 3-4 years to warrant inclusion.
John Galvin should be higher up than 27.
Must be going blind who is the second one?
Never mind I missed Hearty
Quote from: muppet on January 09, 2011, 07:37:07 PM
Dublin have more players in the top 20 than Connacht combined and Cork have only one in the top 25. How does that work?
And how is Gooch ahead of Larry Reilly??
Yup Dublin that haven't made an All Ireland final since 1995 while Cork have been winning leagues & getting to finals consistently
Larry Reilly would chew this list up & spit it out.
Quote from: Orior on January 10, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 10, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
None of the following would make my list:
23 R McMenamin
28 T O'Sullivan
34 B McGuigan
37 T Freeman
52 D Harte
58 G Connaughton
61 M McGrath
65 P Finlay
67 T Griffin
70 P McConnell
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
79 P Kerrigan
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
90 P Hearty
92 D Clerkin
94 D Clarke
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
Indeed, but you'll struggle to find 22 replacements.
That was just what i was thinking!
Quote from: The Worker on January 09, 2011, 06:48:04 PM
Ronan Clarke ahead of Marty Clarke....someone is having a steffi graf.
are you serious? ahead of him all day long!
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 10, 2011, 08:29:11 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 10, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
None of the following would make my list:
23 R McMenamin
28 T O'Sullivan
34 B McGuigan
37 T Freeman
52 D Harte
58 G Connaughton
61 M McGrath
65 P Finlay
67 T Griffin
70 P McConnell
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
79 P Kerrigan
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
90 P Hearty
92 D Clerkin
94 D Clarke
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
So not one current Monaghan player would make your top 100 current players?
Yes, that is correct.
Quote from: Orior on January 10, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 10, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
None of the following would make my list:
23 R McMenamin
28 T O'Sullivan
34 B McGuigan
37 T Freeman
52 D Harte
58 G Connaughton
61 M McGrath
65 P Finlay
67 T Griffin
70 P McConnell
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
79 P Kerrigan
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
90 P Hearty
92 D Clerkin
94 D Clarke
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
Indeed, but you'll struggle to find 22 replacements.
Off the top of my head.
F Doherty
E Muldoon
P Cunningham
J Crozier
K McKernan
D Rafferty
A Rogers
M Penrose
J Reilly
R Kavanagh
D Molloy
J Miskella
P Kissane
A O'Connor
J P Rooney
K Fitzgerald
G Sice
B Kavanagh
R Barry
B Murphy
B Scanlon
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 11, 2011, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 10, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 10, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
None of the following would make my list:
23 R McMenamin
28 T O'Sullivan
34 B McGuigan
37 T Freeman
52 D Harte
58 G Connaughton
61 M McGrath
65 P Finlay
67 T Griffin
70 P McConnell
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
79 P Kerrigan
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
90 P Hearty
92 D Clerkin
94 D Clarke
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
Indeed, but you'll struggle to find 22 replacements.
Off the top of my head.
F Doherty
E Muldoon
P Cunningham
J Crozier
K McKernan
D Rafferty
A Rogers
M Penrose
J Reilly
R Kavanagh
D Molloy
J Miskella
P Kissane
A O'Connor
J P Rooney
K Fitzgerald
G Sice
B Kavanagh
R Barry
B Murphy
B Scanlon
Ahead of brian mcguigan & ricey??? really??
each to their own i suppose
Opinions and arseholes!
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on January 11, 2011, 02:35:06 PM
Ahead of brian mcguigan & ricey??? really??
each to their own i suppose
Yes, although had I been doing this exercise three or four years ago, both would have figured. I would rate Crozier, McKernan, Rafferty, Miskella , Kissane, Fitzgerald and Sice as better than McMenamin and the forwards as being better than McGuigan (as it would appear does Mickey Harte with Penrose).
Sure, neither are guaranteed starters any more with Tyrone - I would have had to list everyone who is before including the two boys.
Nothing personal, if I was picking a team of the last decade McGuigan would be an automatic choice and only my penchant for sportsmanship would exclude Ricey. However, I'm not.
Seeing that the top 100 is based on their career rather than where they currently stand, then Aidan O'Mahony should feel hard done by to not make the list. He was one of the top backs from '04 to '08, 4 All-Ireland medals, 2 All-stars, MOTM in the '06 All-Ireland final, great performance in '04 AI as well.
Quote from: Orior on January 10, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 10, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
None of the following would make my list:
23 R McMenamin
28 T O'Sullivan
34 B McGuigan
37 T Freeman
52 D Harte
58 G Connaughton
61 M McGrath
65 P Finlay
67 T Griffin
70 P McConnell
76 C Mortimer
77 C Harrison
79 P Kerrigan
81 B Owens
82 D Freeman
90 P Hearty
92 D Clerkin
94 D Clarke
97 D Casey
98 D Tubridy
99 B Grogan
100 T Mortimer
Indeed, but you'll struggle to find 22 replacements.
And if you can't find 22 replacements then they are the top 100!