Draw for 2011 championship is only 3 weeks away (7th October).Seems strange thinking it will be 2011 next year 9 was it not just 1999 a few years ago?
Despite reservations about Paddy O'Rourkes tactical nous and worries over more than a few positions, can't wait for next year. Hopefully we can avoid the preliminary round this year and stay in Div 1.
After this year a lot of teams will fancy their chances of having a bit of a run.
Provincial championships may have lost a bit of shine but every team will be going all out to win their province.
Who will be favourites for Sam next year and who can do a Down and stretch the summer out to August at least?
Whats the bets we get Louth in the first round. :P
It's a very useful Cork team who will start as favourites next year.
But considering they had to pull out all the stops to just edge an under par Down team, it would suggest they are not at the level of recent Kerry and Tyrone teams.
I'd think that up to a dozen sides have a chance next year, and it's going to be simple things like injuries, refereeing decisions and momentum that decides the winner. Football looks like it's in for a fine few years.
The first round draw is what we live for in Longford.
And the O'Byrne Cup.............oooooh......the O'Byrne Cup. Only 3 and a bit months away.
Can't wait!
I hope we don't get any of those "who can stop ......" threads in 2011
For us Rossies looking forward to the trip to New York in May :)
Paddy Power's view
Cork 9/4
Kerry 3/1
Dublin 11/2
Tyrone 7/1
Meath 12/1
Down 18/1
Kildare 20/1
Galway 20/1
Monaghan 20/1
Mayo 20/1
Armagh 28/1
Derry 33/1
Limerick 50/1
Donegal 66/1
Sligo 66/1
Laois 66/1
Why are Meath 12/1 ???
Armagh 28/1------ :D
Quote from: Hardy on September 20, 2010, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Why are Meath 12/1 ???
'Cos we have no manager.
I think he means why are they not 25/1 or something like that. Kildare are 20s.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Why are Meath 12/1 ???
Westmeath are 11/10 to win the Maiden Hurdle(3-05) at Ballinrobe the day with Paul Carberry up.
Corkonian is 11/8 to win the other Maiden Hurdle at 3-35 with Ruby Walsh's assistance.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 20, 2010, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on September 20, 2010, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Why are Meath 12/1 ???
'Cos we have no manager.
I think he means why are they not 25/1 or something like that. Kildare are 20s.
I was just trying to be smart, AZ and anticipating the restoration of the established order among Leinster counties next year.
Quote from: drici on September 20, 2010, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Why are Meath 12/1 ???
Westmeath are 11/10 to win the Maiden Hurdle(3-05) at Ballinrobe the day with Paul Carberry up.
Corkonian is 11/8 to win the other Maiden Hurdle at 3-35 with Ruby Walsh's assistance.
I thought Paul Carberry was on an Aer Lingus flight from Malaga once? I thought that would rule him out of ever riding for
Ryanair Gigginstown House.
Corkonian with Kildare assistance. Sounds like the Cork team of the late eighties/early nineties.
Mayo 20/1
Galway 20/1
Sligo 66/1
Roscommon 200/1
Wrote off again i like it :)
Hopefully Tyrone will get one of the weaker counties, Armagh would do nicely.
Quote from: Hardy on September 20, 2010, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 20, 2010, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on September 20, 2010, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Why are Meath 12/1 ???
'Cos we have no manager.
I think he means why are they not 25/1 or something like that. Kildare are 20s.
I was just trying to be smart, AZ and anticipating the restoration of the established order among Leinster counties next year.
Oh I see. Good point though. What price *are* Offaly next year?
Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 04:43:50 PM
Mayo 20/1
Galway 20/1
Sligo 66/1
Roscommon 200/1
Wrote off again i like it :)
So Sligo are 3 times more likely to win Sam than us next year :o
When are the league fixtures out? can't say i'm looking forward to division 4 football when not so long ago we were an established Division 1 team but it must be done....
Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 08:28:50 PM
When are the league fixtures out? can't say i'm looking forward to division 4 football when not so long ago we were an established Division 1 team but it must be done....
yes it was some team
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Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on September 20, 2010, 08:34:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 08:28:50 PM
When are the league fixtures out? can't say i'm looking forward to division 4 football when not so long ago we were an established Division 1 team but it must be done....
yes it was some team
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http://www.gaainfo.com/comp.php?cyear=2010&comp=nfldiv1&co=intercounty&year=2002&submit=Go
Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 08:38:30 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on September 20, 2010, 08:34:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 08:28:50 PM
When are the league fixtures out? can't say i'm looking forward to division 4 football when not so long ago we were an established Division 1 team but it must be done....
yes it was some team
(http://d3179476.u99.hosting365.ie/images/1945team.jpg)
http://www.gaainfo.com/comp.php?cyear=2010&comp=nfldiv1&co=intercounty&year=2002&submit=Go
Well apologies for that i was only 2 years old at the time. Where did it all go wrong? did the success go to their head? hence the naked pool.
Was only 2 years old at the time? 10 now enough said...
Edit* all your posts makes perfect sense now.. keep up the good work
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At leat we have a team manager :D
Not to mention the Connacht U16, U21 and Senior Trophies 8) 8)
As for Div 4 ...we must do our duty and it's an extra game on the season ticket :-\
Quote from: Rossfan on September 20, 2010, 08:53:41 PM
At leat we have a team manager :D
Not to mention the Connacht U16, U21 and Senior Trophies 8) 8)
As for Div 4 ...we must do our duty and it's an extra game on the season ticket :-\
Yes was thinking about that myself.. but at least some local derbies with Longford,Leitrim await & i don't mind returning to Ennis :)
Where did the maths lesson go Peter
:D
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on September 20, 2010, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: drici on September 20, 2010, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Why are Meath 12/1 ???
Westmeath are 11/10 to win the Maiden Hurdle(3-05) at Ballinrobe the day with Paul Carberry up.
Corkonian is 11/8 to win the other Maiden Hurdle at 3-35 with Ruby Walsh's assistance.
I thought Paul Carberry was on an Aer Lingus flight from Malaga once? I thought that would rule him out of ever riding for Ryanair Gigginstown House.
Corkonian with Kildare assistance. Sounds like the Cork team of the late eighties/early nineties.
did kildare people back Cork at the time? genuine question btw.
Quote from: Bogball XV on September 20, 2010, 10:56:34 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on September 20, 2010, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: drici on September 20, 2010, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Why are Meath 12/1 ???
Westmeath are 11/10 to win the Maiden Hurdle(3-05) at Ballinrobe the day with Paul Carberry up.
Corkonian is 11/8 to win the other Maiden Hurdle at 3-35 with Ruby Walsh's assistance.
I thought Paul Carberry was on an Aer Lingus flight from Malaga once? I thought that would rule him out of ever riding for Ryanair Gigginstown House.
Corkonian with Kildare assistance. Sounds like the Cork team of the late eighties/early nineties.
did kildare people back Cork at the time? genuine question btw.
Not at all. Larry was rumoured to be interested in the Kildare job a few years back and I doubt he had one supporter within the county.
Give me Brian Murphy anyday over Larry and Shay.
Lump on Meath.
Sure it's only a matter of toggin out.....there's Seán Brady, WHAT D'YA THINK SEÁN?
Quote from: Jinxy on September 21, 2010, 12:03:58 AM
Lump on Meath.
Sure it's only a matter of toggin out.....there's Seán Brady, WHAT D'YA THINK SEÁN?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yppU34GzDp8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yppU34GzDp8&feature=related) (0:57 on)
;D
We did a dry run for the homecoming in Castlebar this night next year, last night. Went well.
Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
Quote from: Naomh Pol CLG on September 20, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
Armagh 28/1------ :D
A realistic enough assessment. We aren't great yet but this year has shown that you don't necessarily have to be in order to make the latter stages of the championship.
Quote from: Bogball XV on September 20, 2010, 10:56:34 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on September 20, 2010, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: drici on September 20, 2010, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Why are Meath 12/1 ???
Westmeath are 11/10 to win the Maiden Hurdle(3-05) at Ballinrobe the day with Paul Carberry up.
Corkonian is 11/8 to win the other Maiden Hurdle at 3-35 with Ruby Walsh's assistance.
I thought Paul Carberry was on an Aer Lingus flight from Malaga once? I thought that would rule him out of ever riding for Ryanair Gigginstown House.
Corkonian with Kildare assistance. Sounds like the Cork team of the late eighties/early nineties.
did kildare people back Cork at the time? genuine question btw.
We did just as the Norwegians backed Quisling in his new post or the way the yanks backed Benedict Arnold?
Quote from: Rossfan on September 20, 2010, 08:06:46 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 04:43:50 PM
Mayo 20/1
Galway 20/1
Sligo 66/1
Roscommon 200/1
Wrote off again i like it :)
So Sligo are 3 times more likely to win Sam than us next year :o
Correct
Well now that another year has come and gone. (Did anyone predicate Down to be in an All Ireland Final) Who do people fancy for next years title. I don't think cork will retain the sam Maguire as I think this group of players have achieved what they set out 4-5 years ago to do. For me it will Dublin who will do the business next year as much as i hate to say it but they will have learned alot this year and will work on it for next year. Tyrone will not cut it next year as I feel the heart has went out of this team. Kerry will be sniffin about as usual and could do it AGAIN other than that who else would be in contention
Kildare will be thereabouts next year, they've been around for a while now and are bound to be further motivated by the injustice of this year. I agree also with the Dubs but think tthat Cork have the monkey off their backs and will be more relaxed to challenge again next year.
Don't rule out Armagh if Stevie can maintain his current form and Ronan Clarke gets back to full fitness. A season in Division 1 will bring them on as well
Have a feeling Cork will the repeat the feat of 1989/90 of winning back to back All ireland titles! it's up to the others to try & stop them
Would agree that Cork are rightly favourites for next year. Now they have won 1 they might throw off the shackles next year and play with a bit more expression. I think they would like to get Kerry at the knock out stages as there is still that question mark looming over them.
Tyrone should really have beaten Dublin and against Cork you would have fancied them after last years defeat. Was it just a bad day at the office or are there too many miles on the clock for a few of Harte's most loyal players? Next year will tell the tale, there are plenty of potential minor players coming through but that is no guarantee of senior success.
Dublin seemed to enjoy being underdogs this year. Will the increased expectation count against them? It is one thing creating a good defensive set up but it is another finding 2 or 3 scoring forwards. Will Brogan be as consistently good next year?
Can't wait to find out.
Boylesports
2/1 Cork
10/3 Kerry
5/1 Dublin
11/2 Tyrone
16/1 Down
20/1 Kildare
22/1 Meath
25/1 Mayo
33/1 Galway
40/1 Armagh
40/1 Derry
40/1 Monaghan
66/1 Laois
66/1 Donegal
80/1 Limerick
100/1 Sligo
125/1 Roscommon
125/1 Louth
125/1 Offaly
150/1 Fermanagh
200/1 Westmeath
200/1 Wexford
200/1 Wicklow
250/1 Tipperary
250/1 Antrim
500/1 Cavan
1000/1 Leitrim
1000/1 Longford
1000/1 Clare
1000/1 London
1000/1 New York
1000/1 Waterford
More realistic for Meath and a number of other counties.
Like the look of the 3 Ulster counties at 40/1.
Quote from: armaghniac on September 22, 2010, 04:04:53 PM
Boylesports
2/1 Cork
10/3 Kerry
5/1 Dublin
11/2 Tyrone
16/1 Down
20/1 Kildare
22/1 Meath
25/1 Mayo
33/1 Galway
40/1 Armagh
40/1 Derry
40/1 Monaghan
66/1 Laois
66/1 Donegal
80/1 Limerick
100/1 Sligo
125/1 Roscommon
125/1 Louth
125/1 Offaly
150/1 Fermanagh
200/1 Westmeath
200/1 Wexford
200/1 Wicklow
250/1 Tipperary
250/1 Antrim
500/1 Cavan
1000/1 Leitrim
1000/1 Longford
1000/1 Clare
1000/1 London
1000/1 New York
1000/1 Waterford
More realistic for Meath and a number of other counties.
A big difference in the Connacht teams odds there
Quote from: Naomh Pol CLG on September 20, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
Armagh 28/1------ :D
Down 18-1? When was the last time a beaten finalist started at such a big price for the next year? Clearly the bookies believe Down massivly overachieved this year, were very lucky against kerry in terms of injuries and had a massive amount of luck against kildare. Clearly the bookies are not afraid of Down for next year, and they would be right.
Quote from: armagho9 on September 22, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Naomh Pol CLG on September 20, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
Armagh 28/1------ :D
Down 18-1? When was the last time a beaten finalist started at such a big price for the next year? Clearly the bookies believe Down massivly overachieved this year, were very lucky against kerry in terms of injuries and had a massive amount of luck against kildare. Clearly the bookies are not afraid of Down for next year, and they would be right.
:D :D :D In all good bookshops around Armagh. Racing up the charts apparently!
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If we ever need to know anything about bitterness we usually just ask the West Belfast people
Quote from: Jinxy on September 20, 2010, 12:07:10 AM
Whats the bets we get Louth in the first round. :P
I'll take any money on that Jinxy. :)
can someone explain to me how antrim are nearly twice the price of fermanagh or offaly?
Quote from: swing-er-over on September 22, 2010, 09:50:41 PM
can someone explain to me how antrim are nearly twice the price of fermanagh or offaly?
Good point - The St.Galls fellas were very late back to county training this year after their AI success; I think this success will be more evident next year (unless they win it again). And Bradley has committed to them - I know of a few folk that are expecting big things of them in 2011
I think that the Ulster championship is going to be a belter next year, due to the following:
Armagh a year further down the line with Paddy O'Rourke
Cavan with Val Andrews in first season, wanting to make an impact
Same applies for Brennan in Derry & McGuinness in Donegal
Down wanting to build on this year
Tyrone wanting to prove they are still the best.
Won't Fermanagh have a new manager as well?
Monaghan will have a new manager, but I predict a player revolt, wrecking Monaghans year, McEnaney being re-instated and Monaghan winning Ulster 2012.
Can't wait
Do you have Friday's Euromillions numbers?
Quote from: red hander on September 22, 2010, 10:50:46 PM
Do you have Friday's Euromillions numbers?
Not at the minute - Can get them to you Saturday?
Mayo will have a short stint next year again.
Quote from: Redhand Santa on September 20, 2010, 05:06:48 PM
Hopefully Tyrone will get one of the weaker counties, Armagh would do nicely.
Careful what you wish for, you might be choking on your Santa hat as you munch it!!
Quote from: swing-er-over on September 22, 2010, 09:50:41 PM
can someone explain to me how antrim are nearly twice the price of fermanagh or offaly?
Because they are Antrim.
CORK they're the ivan lendl of gaelic football, back in the day when john mcenroe and bjorn borg were slugging it out on the tennis circuit ivan lendl was a fine big man who just couldnt beat either of them but he just hung around til they got injured or bored or too old and he finally won wimbledon. i dont expect cork to feature in 2011. and down? even the manager admits they rode their luck like a badly shod horse.
28-1 for armagh is generous with homer o'rourke at the helm and a rugby coach doing the training perhaps thats why they wont pass the ball forward maybe he's blowing them up
it could be dublins year
I wouldnt be surprised if 7 of the last 8 are the same as this year with any one of Sligo/Galway/Mayo replacing the Rossies. I dont see Cork retaining it - thats only happened once in last two decades but think any one of the rest could come through to win.
Of the rest would agree that Armagh could be next years slightly dark horses especially if they have a decent league campaign. Antrim are capable of beating most on their day but not of a sustained campaign imo.
Cork are going to be strong again in 2011. They plan to unveil a few more under 21s. Remember Sheehan and Walsh are under 21 again next year.Some great minors too Cahalane Hurley etc.
So i take it nobody gives Down a chance next year.1 Point of winning an All Ireland and nobody rates Down.
Yes we had a bit of Luck, all teams that get to a final have Luck.
Yes Kerry were missing two players that were suspended and rightly so but Down beat Kerry well
Luck against Kildare indeed but Ref wasnt long in levelling it out
Cork deserve their All Ireland title and they will be a force again next year.
Was in tullamore for Down Offally and to be fair to Offally they look a decent team i will be expecting some good performances from them in the league especially at home. No reason why they cant do a Louth, after all only the width of a post between them and the second best team in the country this summer.
Quote from: lawnseed on September 24, 2010, 12:52:19 AM
CORK they're the ivan lendl of gaelic football, back in the day when john mcenroe and bjorn borg were slugging it out on the tennis circuit ivan lendl was a fine big man who just couldnt beat either of them but he just hung around til they got injured or bored or too old and he finally won wimbledon. i dont expect cork to feature in 2011. and down? even the manager admits they rode their luck like a badly shod horse.
28-1 for armagh is generous with homer o'rourke at the helm and a rugby coach doing the training perhaps thats why they wont pass the ball forward maybe he's blowing them up
Good analogy but I don't think Lendl ever won Wimbledon.
it could be dublins year
Quote from: snoopdog on September 24, 2010, 03:52:42 PM
So i take it nobody gives Down a chance next year.1 Point of winning an All Ireland and nobody rates Down.
Yes we had a bit of Luck, all teams that get to a final have Luck.
Yes Kerry were missing two players that were suspended and rightly so but Down beat Kerry well
Luck against Kildare indeed but Ref wasnt long in levelling it out
Cork deserve their All Ireland title and they will be a force again next year.
Was in tullamore for Down Offally and to be fair to Offally they look a decent team i will be expecting some good performances from them in the league especially at home. No reason why they cant do a Louth, after all only the width of a post between them and the second best team in the country this summer.
If i were a Down fan i would look to the Ulster Championship & try to break the Armagh/Tyrone dominance & then take it from there...
Quote from: armagho9 on September 22, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Naomh Pol CLG on September 20, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
Armagh 28/1------ :D
Down 18-1? When was the last time a beaten finalist started at such a big price for the next year? Clearly the bookies believe Down massivly overachieved this year, were very lucky against kerry in terms of injuries and had a massive amount of luck against kildare. Clearly the bookies are not afraid of Down for next year, and they would be right.
Mayo 2005 (2004 A.I.F), Mayo 2007 (2006 A.I.F.)
Quote from: ross4life on September 24, 2010, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on September 24, 2010, 03:52:42 PM
So i take it nobody gives Down a chance next year.1 Point of winning an All Ireland and nobody rates Down.
Yes we had a bit of Luck, all teams that get to a final have Luck.
Yes Kerry were missing two players that were suspended and rightly so but Down beat Kerry well
Luck against Kildare indeed but Ref wasnt long in levelling it out
Cork deserve their All Ireland title and they will be a force again next year.
Was in tullamore for Down Offally and to be fair to Offally they look a decent team i will be expecting some good performances from them in the league especially at home. No reason why they cant do a Louth, after all only the width of a post between them and the second best team in the country this summer.
If i were a Down fan i would look to the Ulster Championship & try to break the Armagh/Tyrone dominance & then take it from there...
id say that is what Wee James plan will be. Need to win something
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on September 24, 2010, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: armagho9 on September 22, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Naomh Pol CLG on September 20, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
Armagh 28/1------ :D
Down 18-1? When was the last time a beaten finalist started at such a big price for the next year? Clearly the bookies believe Down massivly overachieved this year, were very lucky against kerry in terms of injuries and had a massive amount of luck against kildare. Clearly the bookies are not afraid of Down for next year, and they would be right.
Mayo 2005 (2004 A.I.F), Mayo 2007 (2006 A.I.F.)
i would say Down will have a similar season to Mayo 05 and 07
Quote from: snoopdog on September 24, 2010, 04:57:31 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 24, 2010, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on September 24, 2010, 03:52:42 PM
So i take it nobody gives Down a chance next year.1 Point of winning an All Ireland and nobody rates Down.
Yes we had a bit of Luck, all teams that get to a final have Luck.
Yes Kerry were missing two players that were suspended and rightly so but Down beat Kerry well
Luck against Kildare indeed but Ref wasnt long in levelling it out
Cork deserve their All Ireland title and they will be a force again next year.
Was in tullamore for Down Offally and to be fair to Offally they look a decent team i will be expecting some good performances from them in the league especially at home. No reason why they cant do a Louth, after all only the width of a post between them and the second best team in the country this summer.
If i were a Down fan i would look to the Ulster Championship & try to break the Armagh/Tyrone dominance & then take it from there...
id say that is what Wee James plan will be. Need to win something
Aye, winning Division 2 league without getting any silverware is somewhat worthless
Quote from: armagho9 on September 24, 2010, 06:18:59 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on September 24, 2010, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: armagho9 on September 22, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Naomh Pol CLG on September 20, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
Armagh 28/1------ :D
Down 18-1? When was the last time a beaten finalist started at such a big price for the next year? Clearly the bookies believe Down massivly overachieved this year, were very lucky against kerry in terms of injuries and had a massive amount of luck against kildare. Clearly the bookies are not afraid of Down for next year, and they would be right.
Mayo 2005 (2004 A.I.F), Mayo 2007 (2006 A.I.F.)
i would say Down will have a similar season to Mayo 05 and 07
I would imagine that if there's any fire in Down's bellies they will do better than get hammered like Mayo did in 07.