According to RTE O'Brien was voted out tonight.
We need to Clone Mick O' , he is in great demand this year !!
Quote from: Barney on September 06, 2010, 11:43:28 PM
According to RTE O'Brien was voted out tonight.
Voted out ??
Strange after ending up with a provincial title. ;)
Meath rarely look beyond the bawthers so I expect another Meath man to take over. I am sure some loo-lah will be looking for the great Sean Boylan (who I rank way ahead of Micko, Heffo et al) to come out of retirement.
What did O'Brien do wrong? The delegates in Meath seem to be fierce contrary.
Gaffer? ::) Typical west brit
Quote from: Mario on September 07, 2010, 12:04:02 AM
Gaffer? ::) Typical west brit
Mario? ::) Typical West Italian
LMFM are saying that they are shocked with the news. If they had any idea about the feelings on the ground in the county they would not be shocked. Many Meath supporters were very disappointed at OBriens failures on the sideline in the Louth and Kildare games. He waited till 50-60 mins to do anything in games that they were being well beaten in. Going into the Kildare game he didnt plan any personnel or tactical changes even though we had essentiallly lost against Louth.
I just couldnt see him being the inspirational figure that would bring Meath the extra steps to an AIF. Maybe this is unfair on him. Personally I thought he came across very badly in the aftermath of the Louth game. He totally dismissed a replay, I thought at the time he could have shown leadership and seen the bigger picture and the benefits to the team a replay would have given.
We cannot predict the future but in my opinion our co board delegates have shown some b*lls and not just ratified the favoured nominee of our chairman. I actually didnt have a major problem with the 2 previous managers since the great Sean Boylan. Both eamonn Barry and Colm Coyle were better managers imo than Eamonn OBrien.
At the same time I would like to thank Eamonn for his work, no hard feelings but we need to move to a new level to give any chance of getting further in the championship.
Not surprised by this at all.Wouldn't have been inspired by O'Brien at all
JK?????
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yep most fans were hoping there would be a change I think, but resignd to the fact that County Board would keep him on another term. Thats why I was shocked to hear. I think Eamon has done all he can and as others say nothing against him really but has no guts to make changes I think. Still I was sure Co Board were to stick with him. the search begins. Id imagine they will stick with a Meath Man. Maybe Gerry Mac.
The support of the county had gone against him but I didn't think democracy counted for much in Meath football and I'm surprised for that fact that he is gone. I'm not sure if the problem lies entirely with Eamonn or the players but against Laois, Louth and Kildare we were in command in games with decent leads and let it slip. Even against Offaly until Coughlan got sent off we struggled to stay ahead despite having plenty of possession.
He was slow to make changes when we were getting cleaned out at mid-field, Still hasn't solved our defensive problems either. BUt still we've got to thnak him. We've certainly been on an upward curve and there's no doubt he helped with that. He's brought a certain amount of pride back into the county team with wins over Limerick, Mayo, Dublin and securing a somewhat dublious Leinster title.
In regards who replaces him, I hope its not Mick O'Dwyer, Luke Dempsey, Joe Kernan or Tommy Carr. I would rather have someone younger much like Kildare have with McGeeney, someone with new ideas and has an understanding of what it takes to play at the highest level in the modern era. IF they are from within the county or elsewhere doesn't matter to me but I can't see the county board going for outside help.
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Time for Meath County Board to broaden their horizons!
What do you mean 'even against Offaly'? Down only beat us by 2!!
Sorry AZ if that sounded patronising, I was reflecting on the fact that we did win that game comfortably on the scoreboard but in reality it certainly wasn't a comfortable win. Where as in the other games we had decent leads and threw them away.
Who's going to be favourite now?
Or Who is even going to run for it?
It's not going to be an outsider that's for sure!
I'm very surprised and very pleased. I never thought the club delegates would do this. In my opinion, as I've stated here before, Eamonn has zero tactical awareness and shows no sign of leadership capability. I can't remember a single tactical change he or his selectors ever made in a championship game or a single occasion on which they responded to any particular obvious problem we could all see from the stands. There didn't seem to be any fight in his teams and the spectacle of Meath having repeatedly done to them what Meath used to do to other teams (come from behind to defeat them, for instance) was endured too often for comfort. Add in the eccentric selection policies and bizarre experiments conducted in the League (and often continued into the championship) and then suddenly abandoned, when they had long been clearly senseless to the rest of us and you have a compelling case for a change of manager.
Thanks Eamonn, for your effort, dignity and decency. We had some good times over the past two years, and the under-achievement wasn't for want of commitment.
I wonder would Colm O'Rourke be up for the job? The obvious best candidate, in my opinion.
Myles and passedit - here's a joke you've probably never heard before. You can have it for nothing - it will improve the originality of your material:
Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side.
O'Rourke won't go for it.
Gerry McEntee might
Brendan Cummins, the Meath Co. Board PRO, was on the radio this morning and was implicitly very critical of the club delegates. He basically said that they hadn't a clue about this and that it was a dark day for meath football. He basically agreed with the presenter who said that the meath delegates got rid of Eamonn because he didn't land Sam in his first year and that they had now gone through 3 managers in the short number of years since Sean Boylan retired.
What utter and complete tripe.
First of all, the reason that the delegates had lost confidence in Obrien was nothing to do with not winning the All-Ireland. It was to do with the reasons outlined above by Hardy and Juice, the failure to make changes at crucial times in games and lack of vision to see changes in the way a game was going and to act on them. Obrien also lost his 2 coaches each after a year in charge. The rumour was that Sean Kelly tried to get him to make changes much earlier against Kildare but was ignored.
Regarding the comments that the Meath delegates have had no patience with managers since Sean left, Eamonn Barry was got rid of by the Co. Board for mostly personality clash reasons and Colm Coyle resigned after the limerick hammering – neither of these departures were prompted by the delegates.
It seems as if Cummins and co want to have the delegates there to rubber stamp their decisions but are not supposed to reflect the views of the clubs and supporters.
Can we send our delegates up to stay with the Meath delegates for a couple of weeks to learn how it's done - what a wonderful display of free thinking.
Will the CB get their own back by making the clubs sell expensive tickets to the unemployed to pay for something only the county board wanted, or will they just identify one or two delegates as ringleaders and just disband their clubs or some such retribution.
Quote from: stephenite on September 07, 2010, 11:08:09 AM
Can we send our delegates up to stay with the Meath delegates for a couple of weeks to learn how it's done
While you're at it, could you send a few of your posters over here to show us how to extend a managerial debate into a 70-page epic? We're only novices at this stuff.
They arent easily pleased in Meath. They won a Leinster title in 2010, is that not enough. We`ll not get into the legitimacy of the title, the GAA wouldnt so why should we, but history will show that Meath are Leinster champions.
I'm surprised and pleased this has happened.
No disrespect to Eamonn but I genuinely think he'd taken the team as far as he could.
O'Brien did appear to be appallingly slow to make obvious changes. Harrington staying on Kavanagh for so long being the obvious puzzler. Brian Farrell's performances in the Intermediate Championship are also a timely reminder of O'Brien's myopia/stubbornness. And who knows, his 9 points versus Dunderry at the weekend may have tipped the clubs over the edge. I have always thought he is an awesome player. And giving him 5 minutes here and there is pretty mindless. Most counties would be building an attack around him.
Sean Kelly should be the next Meath manager in my opinion.
It will retain some continuity, and all that's needed is to develop another midfielder (or perhaps blood Shane O'Rourke out there IMO), and find another teak tough corner back who doesn't foul. Not a lot needs to change. The forwards are there. Although I would argue you need more output from S Bray, and an awful lot more work rate from C Ward, who is slightly living on reputation and who misses an awful lot more frees that you think.
Quote from: Giveitlong on September 07, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
and an awful lot more work rate from C Ward, who is slightly living on reputation and who misses an awful lot more frees that you think.
He scores a lot more frees than you think.
:o
Quote from: Giveitlong on September 07, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
O'Brien did appear to be appallingly slow to make obvious changes. Harrington staying on Kavanagh for so long being the obvious puzzler. Brian Farrell's performances in the Intermediate Championship are also a timely reminder of O'Brien's myopia/stubbornness. And who knows, his 9 points versus Dunderry at the weekend may have tipped the clubs over the edge. I have always thought he is an awesome player. And giving him 5 minutes here and there is pretty mindless. Most counties would be building an attack around him.
not to mention burning bridges with Cormac McGill.
Quote from: Hardy on September 07, 2010, 10:21:34 AM
Myles and passedit - here's a joke you've probably never heard before. You can have it for nothing - it will improve the originality of your material:
Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side.
Thanks for that Hardy, it never gets old, unlike ourselves. At least Shane is a good Mead man with a bit of pedigree. Come to think of it he could probably do a job at full forward for ye never mind management.
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You're nearly as funny as Patrick Kielty, passedit.
Quote from: spuds on September 07, 2010, 01:32:34 PM
Quote from: Giveitlong on September 07, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
and an awful lot more work rate from C Ward, who is slightly living on reputation and who misses an awful lot more frees that you think.
He scores a lot more frees than you think.
:o
And he ates a lot more snack boxes than any of ye think.