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Title: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 12, 2010, 01:14:01 AM
Am I the only one that fckn hates Irish people on Brit t.v. pretending they are Brits on U.K. tv and then are all Irish again when they back on Irish t.v.

I don't mind genuine Unionists, thats their beliefs, but the fckn Paddys who say "we" when referrering the British stuff only for the Queens Schilling but they pure Irish and say so when back on Irish t.v. Makes me sick.

I see Irish bird on Country Tracks on BBC she talking "we" this "we" that and "us" "Royal Navy" defending "us" against the French, the girl is Irish and one of her parents is French FFS. Talk about sucking up for the Reddies.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:48:13 AM
It's called Woganitis.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: Banana Man on August 12, 2010, 09:01:38 AM
which one is she?

I can't think of too many Irish ones on British TV that aren't from a planter background. Wogan probably the only one I can think off.

Even Graham Norton would be of planter stock
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: johnneycool on August 12, 2010, 09:35:45 AM
Des Lynam is up there with wogan for arse licking as well.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: muppet on August 12, 2010, 11:08:15 AM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 12, 2010, 01:14:01 AM
Am I the only one that fckn hates Irish people on Brit t.v. pretending they are Brits on U.K. tv and then are all Irish again when they back on Irish t.v.

I don't mind genuine Unionists, thats their beliefs, but the fckn Paddys who say "we" when referrering the British stuff only for the Queens Schilling but they pure Irish and say so when back on Irish t.v. Makes me sick.

I see Irish bird on Country Tracks on BBC she talking "we" this "we" that and "us" "Royal Navy" defending "us" against the French, the girl is Irish and one of her parents is French FFS. Talk about sucking up for the Reddies.

You are likely to have to work a day a week for the rest of your working life to pay off debts accrued by Irish people, acting in Ireland who would claim to be more Irish than the rest of us.

And you complain about some young one in England who won't cost you a cent........
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 12, 2010, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2010, 11:08:15 AM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 12, 2010, 01:14:01 AM
Am I the only one that fckn hates Irish people on Brit t.v. pretending they are Brits on U.K. tv and then are all Irish again when they back on Irish t.v.

I don't mind genuine Unionists, thats their beliefs, but the fckn Paddys who say "we" when referrering the British stuff only for the Queens Schilling but they pure Irish and say so when back on Irish t.v. Makes me sick.

I see Irish bird on Country Tracks on BBC she talking "we" this "we" that and "us" "Royal Navy" defending "us" against the French, the girl is Irish and one of her parents is French FFS. Talk about sucking up for the Reddies.

You are likely to have to work a day a week for the rest of your working life to pay off debts accrued by Irish people, acting in Ireland who would claim to be more Irish than the rest of us.

And you complain about some young one in England who won't cost you a cent........

I was watching the programme and it was annoying me as she Irish and doing the whole "us" "we" thing then she came to the Roayl Navy and talked about how it "defended us" against the French, the girl is half French for f**k sake, just made me cringe.

She is the one of the girls that used to be on the Den or RTE around the time all the young ones where taking the place over about 10-15 years ago. I think she actually 1/4 French1/4 Lebanese & 1/2 Irish.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 12, 2010, 02:06:25 PM
Quote from: Banana Man on August 12, 2010, 09:01:38 AM
which one is she?

I can't think of too many Irish ones on British TV that aren't from a planter background. Wogan probably the only one I can think off.

Even Graham Norton would be of planter stock

Poor Graham Norton when he was doing the "who do you think you are" show was very surprised to learn of all the bad stuff that the English and Planters did to the Native Irish & equally surprised to hear of the awful stuff done to Protestants in his own County after Irish Independence. Talk about not paying attention in school.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: Santino on August 12, 2010, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 12, 2010, 01:14:01 AM
Am I the only one that fckn hates Irish people on Brit t.v. pretending they are Brits on U.K. tv and then are all Irish again when they back on Irish t.v.

I don't mind genuine Unionists, thats their beliefs, but the fckn Paddys who say "we" when referrering the British stuff only for the Queens Schilling but they pure Irish and say so when back on Irish t.v. Makes me sick.

I see Irish bird on Country Tracks on BBC she talking "we" this "we" that and "us" "Royal Navy" defending "us" against the French, the girl is Irish and one of her parents is French FFS. Talk about sucking up for the Reddies.

Know what u mean but there are plenty of exceptions, with Dara O'Briain springing to mind in particular
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mountainboii on August 12, 2010, 02:23:53 PM
If it's Liz Bonnin you're on about, then it's not all that surprising that she wouldn't consider herself Irish. Despite the accent, she hasn't any Irish family and has spent most of her life outside the country.

I don't know why this bothers anyone anyway. If someone is presenting something on British TV then it's reasonable enough that they would try to relate to it from a British point of view for the benefit of their largely British audience.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: Banana Man on August 12, 2010, 02:38:45 PM
Good point Dara O'Briain is very proud of his roots and always gives the Brits a good bashing on mock the week and makes a distinct us and them point when discussing surveys of the British people for example.

In fairness to the British viewing public they don't cry and here's a guy on presenting their TV show, in their country, where he has lived for 10 years or so, taking the queens shilling and slating them at every opportunity
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: spuds on August 12, 2010, 05:47:41 PM
QuoteLiz Bonnin (born September 16 1976) is an Irish television presenter who has worked on television in the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom. She currently works for the BBC.



[edit] Biography
Born in France to a French father and Trinidadian mother, the family moved to Ireland when she was 10 years old. She has a degree[clarification needed] in biochemistry from Trinity College, Dublin[citation needed] and also holds a master's degree in wild animal biology.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Bonnin


your bang out of order mayogodhelpus on this little cutie
i want you to apologise on here to her
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: deiseach on August 12, 2010, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 12, 2010, 01:14:01 AM
I see Irish bird on Country Tracks on BBC she talking "we" this "we" that and "us" "Royal Navy" defending "us" against the French, the girl is Irish and one of her parents is French FFS. Talk about sucking up for the Reddies.

Meh. Davy Fitz probably refers to Waterford as 'us' in interviews, does that bother you?
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: ziggysego on August 13, 2010, 12:02:20 AM
Dermot O'Leary refers to himself in the Irish sense.

Liam and Noel Gallagher support the Irish soccer team.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: muppet on August 13, 2010, 07:14:42 PM
Aren't we a great little country though?

We can produce people like Sonia, Paul McGrath, Stephen Roche, Ken Doherty, Harrington etc and at the same time we can bankrupt our country for at least a generation.

What exactly does great country mean?
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 13, 2010, 08:55:26 PM
Quote from: spuds on August 12, 2010, 05:47:41 PM
QuoteLiz Bonnin (born September 16 1976) is an Irish television presenter who has worked on television in the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom. She currently works for the BBC.



[edit] Biography
Born in France to a French father and Trinidadian mother, the family moved to Ireland when she was 10 years old. She has a degree[clarification needed] in biochemistry from Trinity College, Dublin[citation needed] and also holds a master's degree in wild animal biology.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Bonnin


your bang out of order mayogodhelpus on this little cutie
i want you to apologise on here to her

Why? & No. OK she is part French and part Trinidadian. But its the same thing she larking on about the Royal Navy saving "us" from the French  ::)
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: deiseach on August 13, 2010, 08:56:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 13, 2010, 07:14:42 PM
What exactly does great country mean?

Naff all. Ireland is one of the better places in the world, but this incessant desire for validation of either the positive (Ireland sure is bootiful) or negative (now that we have divorce we have finally matured as a nation) variety gets tiresome
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 13, 2010, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 12, 2010, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 12, 2010, 01:14:01 AM
I see Irish bird on Country Tracks on BBC she talking "we" this "we" that and "us" "Royal Navy" defending "us" against the French, the girl is Irish and one of her parents is French FFS. Talk about sucking up for the Reddies.

Meh. Davy Fitz probably refers to Waterford as 'us' in interviews, does that bother you?

He is talking about a team, he is part of that team setup.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mountainboii on August 13, 2010, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 13, 2010, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 12, 2010, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 12, 2010, 01:14:01 AM
I see Irish bird on Country Tracks on BBC she talking "we" this "we" that and "us" "Royal Navy" defending "us" against the French, the girl is Irish and one of her parents is French FFS. Talk about sucking up for the Reddies.

Meh. Davy Fitz probably refers to Waterford as 'us' in interviews, does that bother you?

He is talking about a team, he is part of that team setup.

And Bonnin is part of the British broadcast media setup.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: spuds on August 13, 2010, 11:58:38 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 13, 2010, 08:55:26 PM
Quote from: spuds on August 12, 2010, 05:47:41 PM
QuoteLiz Bonnin (born September 16 1976) is an Irish television presenter who has worked on television in the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom. She currently works for the BBC.



[edit] Biography
Born in France to a French father and Trinidadian mother, the family moved to Ireland when she was 10 years old. She has a degree[clarification needed] in biochemistry from Trinity College, Dublin[citation needed] and also holds a master's degree in wild animal biology.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Bonnin


your bang out of order mayogodhelpus on this little cutie
i want you to apologise on here to her

Why? & No. OK she is part French and part Trinidadian. But its the same thing she larking on about the Royal Navy saving "us" from the French  ::)
She's on British TV and you expect her to refer to British services etc in the not belonging to herslf, what sort of connection would that create with her listeners ? I take it you haven't studied any form of communications or media studies !
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: spuds on August 13, 2010, 11:58:38 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 13, 2010, 08:55:26 PM
Quote from: spuds on August 12, 2010, 05:47:41 PM
QuoteLiz Bonnin (born September 16 1976) is an Irish television presenter who has worked on television in the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom. She currently works for the BBC.



[edit] Biography
Born in France to a French father and Trinidadian mother, the family moved to Ireland when she was 10 years old. She has a degree[clarification needed] in biochemistry from Trinity College, Dublin[citation needed] and also holds a master's degree in wild animal biology.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Bonnin


your bang out of order mayogodhelpus on this little cutie
i want you to apologise on here to her

Why? & No. OK she is part French and part Trinidadian. But its the same thing she larking on about the Royal Navy saving "us" from the French  ::)
She's on British TV and you expect her to refer to British services etc in the not belonging to herslf, what sort of connection would that create with her listeners ? I take it you haven't studied any form of communications or media studies !
I take it you've never studied English in any form  ???
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: spuds on August 14, 2010, 02:12:31 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: spuds on August 13, 2010, 11:58:38 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 13, 2010, 08:55:26 PM
Quote from: spuds on August 12, 2010, 05:47:41 PM
QuoteLiz Bonnin (born September 16 1976) is an Irish television presenter who has worked on television in the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom. She currently works for the BBC.



[edit] Biography
Born in France to a French father and Trinidadian mother, the family moved to Ireland when she was 10 years old. She has a degree[clarification needed] in biochemistry from Trinity College, Dublin[citation needed] and also holds a master's degree in wild animal biology.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Bonnin


your bang out of order mayogodhelpus on this little cutie
i want you to apologise on here to her

Why? & No. OK she is part French and part Trinidadian. But its the same thing she larking on about the Royal Navy saving "us" from the French  ::)
She's on British TV and you expect her to refer to British services etc in the not belonging to herslf, what sort of connection would that create with her listeners ? I take it you haven't studied any form of communications or media studies !
I take it you've never studied English in any form  ???
Take it any way you want
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 10:28:29 AM
btw I don't think anyone with a brain cell would expect her to use "we" or "us" if she's not British.
Would you expect an English person to refer to "we" or "us" on RTE if talking about the same thing? I wouldn't.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 10:28:29 AM
btw I don't think anyone with a brain cell would expect her to use "we" or "us" if she's not British.
Would you expect an English person to refer to "we" or "us" on RTE if talking about the same thing? I wouldn't.

George Hamilton refers to the Republic of Ireland soccer team as 'we' and 'us'. And don't tell me that's because he's a dyed-in-the-wool Taig, he's being professional just as the Irish on British TV are being professional.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: spuds on August 14, 2010, 12:36:52 PM
Any one with a brain cell wouldn't be getting all worked up about someone doing their job on TV, she'll not be lasting too long by not creating a bond with her viewers and probably not following the script either. I know she wasn't in the GPO with you martyrs but she'll just have to survive without your approval !

What's the story with Philip Bromwell on RTE news ? Doesn't sound like he is from Achill or Finglas !
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 10:28:29 AM
btw I don't think anyone with a brain cell would expect her to use "we" or "us" if she's not British.
Would you expect an English person to refer to "we" or "us" on RTE if talking about the same thing? I wouldn't.

George Hamilton refers to the Republic of Ireland soccer team as 'we' and 'us'. And don't tell me that's because he's a dyed-in-the-wool Taig, he's being professional just as the Irish on British TV are being professional.
Is George Hamilton not Irish? I thought he was  ???
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: spuds on August 14, 2010, 12:36:52 PM
Any one with a brain cell wouldn't be getting all worked up about someone doing their job on TV, she'll not be lasting too long by not creating a bond with her viewers and probably not following the script either. I know she wasn't in the GPO with you martyrs but she'll just have to survive without your approval !

What's the story with Philip Bromwell on RTE news ? Doesn't sound like he is from Achill or Finglas !
It's not part of her job and I don't think it's necessary for her to say "we" to create a bond.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 12:46:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
George Hamilton refers to the Republic of Ireland soccer team as 'we' and 'us'. And don't tell me that's because he's a dyed-in-the-wool Taig, he's being professional just as the Irish on British TV are being professional.
Is George Hamilton not Irish? I thought he was  ???

I doubt if he would have grown up supporting the Republic of Ireland soccer team. Do you think he referred to them as 'us' when he worked for the BBC?
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 12:48:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
It's not part of her job and I don't think it's necessary for her to say "we" to create a bond.

Television producers would probably disagree, but what would they know about television?
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: spuds on August 14, 2010, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: spuds on August 14, 2010, 12:36:52 PM
Any one with a brain cell wouldn't be getting all worked up about someone doing their job on TV, she'll not be lasting too long by not creating a bond with her viewers and probably not following the script either. I know she wasn't in the GPO with you martyrs but she'll just have to survive without your approval !

What's the story with Philip Bromwell on RTE news ? Doesn't sound like he is from Achill or Finglas !
It's not part of her job and I don't think it's necessary for her to say "we" to create a bond.

How do you know it's not part of her job ?
Don't know anything about her but maybe she feels at home now in UK with you, good luck to her.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 12:46:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
George Hamilton refers to the Republic of Ireland soccer team as 'we' and 'us'. And don't tell me that's because he's a dyed-in-the-wool Taig, he's being professional just as the Irish on British TV are being professional.
Is George Hamilton not Irish? I thought he was  ???

I doubt if he would have grown up supporting the Republic of Ireland soccer team
. Do you think he referred to them as 'us' when he worked for the BBC?
Why? I don't know much about his background but I see he was born in Belfast, I don't get your point. 
I've no idea what he done at the BBC. 

Quote from: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 12:48:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
It's not part of her job and I don't think it's necessary for her to say "we" to create a bond.

Television producers would probably disagree, but what would they know about television?
Would you expect an English person (for example) to say "we" when speaking about the Irish on RTE? I wouldn't, I'd think it was stupid, I wouldn't feel any less of a "bond" if they didn't do it, would you?


Quote from: spuds on August 14, 2010, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: spuds on August 14, 2010, 12:36:52 PM
Any one with a brain cell wouldn't be getting all worked up about someone doing their job on TV, she'll not be lasting too long by not creating a bond with her viewers and probably not following the script either. I know she wasn't in the GPO with you martyrs but she'll just have to survive without your approval !

What's the story with Philip Bromwell on RTE news ? Doesn't sound like he is from Achill or Finglas !
It's not part of her job and I don't think it's necessary for her to say "we" to create a bond.

How do you know it's not part of her job ?
Don't know anything about her but maybe she feels at home now in UK with you, good luck to her.
How do you know it is part of her job? How does Deiseach know what television producers think  ???
I'm the one applying common sense to the situation when you are trying to be a media expert.
I feel at home in England but I still wouldn't refer to the English soccer team or armed services as "we" or "us". 
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 14, 2010, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: spuds on August 14, 2010, 12:36:52 PM
Any one with a brain cell wouldn't be getting all worked up about someone doing their job on TV, she'll not be lasting too long by not creating a bond with her viewers and probably not following the script either. I know she wasn't in the GPO with you martyrs but she'll just have to survive without your approval !  :D

What's the story with Philip Bromwell on RTE news ? Doesn't sound like he is from Achill or Finglas !

The last thing anyone on here would accuse me of would be being in the GPO in 1916, ha ha.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 01:03:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:56:37 PM
How do you know it is part of her job? How does Deiseach know what television producers think  ???
I'm the one applying common sense to the situation when you are trying to be a media expert.
I feel at home in England but I still wouldn't refer to the English soccer team or armed services as "we" or "us".

I see. 'Common sense' is what YOU think is normal. Why do you think all these people like Graham Norton and Liz Bonnin use 'we' if it is so contrary to common sense?
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: All of a Sludden on August 14, 2010, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:56:37 PM
I feel at home in England

You are British after all, why wouldn't you feel at home in Britain ???
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 01:03:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:56:37 PM
How do you know it is part of her job? How does Deiseach know what television producers think  ???
I'm the one applying common sense to the situation when you are trying to be a media expert.
I feel at home in England but I still wouldn't refer to the English soccer team or armed services as "we" or "us".

I see. 'Common sense' is what YOU think is normal. Why do you think all these people like Graham Norton and Liz Bonnin use 'we' if it is so contrary to common sense?
I've no idea but I'd suspect reasons range from being ashamed of their roots to not having an ounce of sense. 

Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 14, 2010, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:56:37 PM
I feel at home in England

You are British after all, why wouldn't you feel at home in Britain ???
If you can't discuss something like an adult don't bother at all, such comments (like spuds most recent comments) only come from people who haven't the intelligence to put across their point of view.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: armaghniac on August 14, 2010, 01:16:25 PM
This is a non thread. If you take a job in British television, or French or German or wherever then you use "we" to refer to the place where you are. Paddy O'Rourke refers to us winning a game although he doesn't even live in Armagh, Micko is not a Wicklow person but no doubt has used we to refer to Wicklow in the recent past.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 01:09:26 PM
I've no idea but I'd suspect reasons range from being ashamed of their roots to not having an ounce of sense. 

So you think it's a form of self-loathing. Fair enough. I think it more likely that they're asked to keep it more chummy, but we can agree to differ
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: spuds on August 14, 2010, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:56:37 PM


Quote from: spuds on August 14, 2010, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: spuds on August 14, 2010, 12:36:52 PM
Any one with a brain cell wouldn't be getting all worked up about someone doing their job on TV, she'll not be lasting too long by not creating a bond with her viewers and probably not following the script either. I know she wasn't in the GPO with you martyrs but she'll just have to survive without your approval !

What's the story with Philip Bromwell on RTE news ? Doesn't sound like he is from Achill or Finglas !
It's not part of her job and I don't think it's necessary for her to say "we" to create a bond.

How do you know it's not part of her job ?
Don't know anything about her but maybe she feels at home now in UK with you, good luck to her.
How do you know it is part of her job? How does Deiseach know what television producers think  ???
I'm the one applying common sense to the situation when you are trying to be a media expert.
I feel at home in England but I still wouldn't refer to the English soccer team or armed services as "we" or "us".
You state it's not part of her job.....I ask you how you know this......you respond by asking how I know it is part of her job ?? What age are you ?
When stating that you are the only one applying common sense...well it just comes across as you are grasping at straws.
Happy for you feeling at home in England but you're unlikely to be presented with the opportunity to present any programme on TV there.
Liz Bonnin presenting her programme referring to "our" English this or that is catering to her audience.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 14, 2010, 01:16:25 PM
This is a non thread. If you take a job in British television, or French or German or wherever then you use "we" to refer to the place where you are. Paddy O'Rourke refers to us winning a game although he doesn't even live in Armagh, Micko is not a Wicklow person but no doubt has used we to refer to Wicklow in the recent past.
Paddy O'Rourke and Micko are part of the team set ups, of course they refer to the team as "we".

Quote from: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 01:09:26 PM
I've no idea but I'd suspect reasons range from being ashamed of their roots to not having an ounce of sense. 

So you think it's a form of self-loathing. Fair enough. I think it more likely that they're asked to keep it more chummy, but we can agree to differ
If that was the case they'd all do it, they don't.

spuds
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You state it's not part of her job.....I ask you how you know this......you respond by asking how I know it is part of her job ?? What age are you ?
You said it was part of their job, you're the one with the "I assume you never studied media", you're the one trying to come across as a media expert, I'm not. I can't see it being part of their job because if it was they'd all be doing it. Apart from that it sounds ridiculous!
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: spuds on August 14, 2010, 01:27:03 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 01:09:26 PM


You are British after all, why wouldn't you feel at home in Britain ???
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If you can't discuss something like an adult don't bother at all, such comments (like spuds most recent comments) only come from people who haven't the intelligence to put across their point of view.
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You have a highly inflated opinion of yourself if you reckon you're attempts at a discussion here are adult like, I'd describe it as the non-sensical comments of a limited individual. Enjoy your slow weekend !!  ;)
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.ere
Post by: All of a Sludden on August 14, 2010, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 14, 2010, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 12:56:37 PM
I feel at home in England

You are British after all, why wouldn't you feel at home in Britain ???
If you can't discuss something like an adult don't bother at all, such comments (like spuds most recent comments) only come from people who haven't the intelligence to put across their point of view.

I assume you were born and raised in Northern Ireland. During my 40 odd years on this earth, Northern Ireland has been an integral part of Britain, even though some pedants like yourself will argue that NI is technically only part of the UK. Anyway, lets not split hairs here, NI is British. It has been longer than anyone of us has been alive and will continue to be so long after we are gone. No amount of Anglo Irish or Good Friday Agreements will ever change the fact that you and the other 1.5 million odd of your Brethren are indeed as British as Finchley.
So why wouldn't you feel at home in part of your homeland?  :D
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 01:30:15 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 01:23:39 PM
If that was the case they'd all do it, they don't.

The only one who doesn't do it that I'm aware of is Dara O'Briain and he's made a career out of being the cheerful Mick, what Al Murray referred to as "they [the Irish] dance for our entertainment". The rest of them are not employed to be extras from an O'Casey play
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: All of a Sludden on August 14, 2010, 01:52:40 PM
At home indeed.  ::)

Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 24, 2010, 11:14:07 AM
Last time we were in London herself went to order food in a bar and she was asked if she spoke English. 

The English are f**king stupid though, they don't listen, I do have only two words out of my mouth and they're saying "what".  Drives me mad. I can understand them, why can't they understand me!


Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 24, 2010, 09:42:35 PM
That's the thing! There's particular people who ask me constantly to repeat myself 3 or 4 times, there's a couple who have said to me they don't understand me - I don't talk to them anymore - I'd be mortified to say that to someone but as you say they seem proud.

and they're ones to be talking about accents - today I was taking an address of this boy and he kept telling me it was 1274 bridge road - thinking it was a little odd that the the numbers ran in to the thousands on this road I was querying it - after 10 minutes and a lot of confusion someone came in to translate and it turned out the address was 127 fullbridge road.


Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 23, 2010, 11:29:52 PM
People have a problem understanding most things I say!

It's exhausting!
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 02:00:53 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 14, 2010, 01:30:15 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 01:23:39 PM
If that was the case they'd all do it, they don't.

The only one who doesn't do it that I'm aware of is Dara O'Briain and he's made a career out of being the cheerful Mick, what Al Murray referred to as "they [the Irish] dance for our entertainment". The rest of them are not employed to be extras from an O'Casey play
Most of the Irish comedians don't do it - the fella presenting on MOTD2 doesnt either. Can't remember his name now.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mountainboii on August 14, 2010, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 14, 2010, 01:16:25 PM
This is a non thread. If you take a job in British television, or French or German or wherever then you use "we" to refer to the place where you are.

Yes, it's very simple. Bonnin is a professional TV presenter. When on TV, she ceases to be Bonnin, the Irish educated French-Trinidadian, and becomes Bonnin, the British TV presenter. There is a difference between private and professional personas.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: Hardy on August 14, 2010, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 14, 2010, 01:27:28 PMDuring my 40 odd years on this earth, Northern Ireland has been an integral part of Britain
It hasn't

QuoteNI is British
It isn't

QuoteIt has been longer than anyone of us has been alive
It hasn't

Quoteand will continue to be so long after we are gone
It won't
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 14, 2010, 06:30:07 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 14, 2010, 06:27:36 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 14, 2010, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 14, 2010, 01:27:28 PMDuring my 40 odd years on this earth, Northern Ireland has been an integral part of Britain
It hasn't

QuoteNI is British
It isn't

QuoteIt has been longer than anyone of us has been alive
It hasn't

Quoteand will continue to be so long after we are gone
It won't

The only thing worse than a deluded nordie is a deluded meathie
Nah, an uneducated Louth man is worse. 
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 14, 2010, 06:46:12 PM
AofaS it is not being merely pedantic to say Northern Ireland is not part of Britain, because it is not and has never been part of Britian, it has been and still is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Those are the facts, you may or may not like them, but they are the FACTS.

You may or may not have an argument saying Northern Ireland is British, but you will never have an argument to say it is part of Britain.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 14, 2010, 06:47:54 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 14, 2010, 06:44:35 PM
I thought the uneducated went to England to work.

Seems some of them got lost in Louth, big soccer haven that it is, they probably thought they were in Yorkshire or Lankershire.
Title: Re: Irish on U.K. T.V.
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 16, 2010, 11:42:41 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on August 16, 2010, 07:16:51 PM
Lankershire?  ::)

I was pretty sure a big Louth soccerhead like yourself would spot that  ;)

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