On RTE Radio Sports this morning they had a piece on the FAI's Finances.
They mentioned the C E O took a pay cut of €17,000 p.a giving him a new REDUCED !!!! figure of €435,000 ( FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND EURO !!!!) which is more than the GAA Ard Stiúthóir and IRFU Secretary put together.
All I can say is
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
I heard that today and nearly crashed the car, although I wouldn't have big qualms about it being bigger than the GAA figure. What brought it home to me though was it's bigger than the Taoiseach's, and I'd say every other important public figure in this, or many other, countries. I'd pay the HSE CEO that amount and tell him to sort out the HSE.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2010, 11:11:50 AM
On RTE Radio Sports this morning they had a piece on the FAI's Finances.
They mentioned the C E O took a pay cut of €17,000 p.a giving him a new REDUCED !!!! figure of €435,000 ( FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND EURO !!!!) which is more than the GAA Ard Stiúthóir and IRFU Secretary put together.
All I can say is
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Is the salary of the Ard Stiúthóir publically available? Was there not a bit of a fuss at Congress when Mark Conway tried to have the wage bill published?
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 09, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
I heard that today and nearly crashed the car, although I wouldn't have big qualms about it being bigger than the GAA figure. What brought it home to me though was it's bigger than the Taoiseach's, and I'd say every other important public figure in this, or many other, countries. I'd pay the HSE CEO that amount and tell him to sort out the HSE.
Whenever anyone mentions salaries, its always compared to the taoiseachs, or the PM in Britain, which is always small by comparison. Its never an appropriate comparison however, rather just a shock tactic, because of the money public figures earn after they've retired from office. for eg...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5489614.ece
Quote from: haranguerer on August 09, 2010, 01:01:45 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 09, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
I heard that today and nearly crashed the car, although I wouldn't have big qualms about it being bigger than the GAA figure. What brought it home to me though was it's bigger than the Taoiseach's, and I'd say every other important public figure in this, or many other, countries. I'd pay the HSE CEO that amount and tell him to sort out the HSE.
Whenever anyone mentions salaries, its always compared to the taoiseachs, or the PM in Britain, which is always small by comparison. Its never an appropriate comparison however, rather just a shock tactic, because of the money public figures earn after they've retired from office. for eg...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5489614.ece
I know what you are saying, but in fairness for a p.a. comparison alone it's bananas. How can a sporting organisation in Ireland pay a CEO nearly a half a million a year? It's crazy.
Reluctantly I have been impressed by the much of Delaney's stewardship of the FAI in the last couple of years.
He is getting well paid, but turnover is >60m. He has a good grasp of the general direction of FAI coaching/development and the thorny LOI. In general, he is a good rep for the FAI and alone earns his FAI crust with the sponsorship deals he negotiates.
More of an issue though are the heavy loans the FAI had to take up to finance New Lansdowne.
Fair enough. If he's returning value for money, then it's value for money. He'd want to be going at some tack to be giving value for money on a 440k salary, but you would know better, I'd say, than me.
Quote from: Main Street on August 09, 2010, 01:34:37 PM
Reluctantly I have been impressed by the much of Delaney's stewardship of the FAI in the last couple of years.
He is getting well paid, but turnover is >60m. He has a good grasp of the general direction of FAI coaching/development and the thorny LOI. In general, he is a good rep for the FAI and alone earns his FAI crust with the sponsorship deals he negotiates.
More of an issue though are the heavy loans the FAI had to take up to finance New Lansdowne.
He made a huge mistake regarding the sale of the premium seats in Lansdowne. One company offered to buy the whole lot, but he turned it down (not just him, but presumably the final decision was his). Now they can hardly sell any.
I saw it bandied about somewhere that Cooneys salary is €300k. Dunno how accurate that was.
Delaney is a vastly superior administrartor to what the FAI had previously but he is not a superman and along with all the holes in the FAI, he has to deal with a seriously disfunctioning LOI.
AFAIR, he had made a deal with a company to sell the premium seats, but he picked the wrong company as they hummed and hawwed, delaying the sale and when the Banks crashed they fled.
There would appear to be a better class of financial management in the IRFU :)
Quote from: Minder on August 09, 2010, 02:51:45 PM
I saw it bandied about somewhere that Cooneys salary is €300k. Dunno how accurate that was.
If thats true, thats a disgrace.
The FAI changed sponsors this month too, less than 6 months after launching a new range.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 09, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
I heard that today and nearly crashed the car
In an inverse case to the Ashley Cole incident!
Quote from: Minder on August 09, 2010, 02:51:45 PM
I saw it bandied about somewhere that Cooneys salary is €300k. Dunno how accurate that was.
It's €170k ballpark - that's what he's on in FAS so the GAA has to match it.
It was a similar situation with Nicky Brennan who is a senior Manager in Glanbia
A guy I know who's linked to rugby was telling me that the rugger buggers were glad to be out of Croker as they reckoned the Croke Park management was out to shaft them at every opportunity. He also said that it seemed that the FAI were absolute pushovers in this regard displaying an inability to negotiate effectively with the result that Croke Park had a field day fleecing them at every chance
Quote from: heffo on August 09, 2010, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 09, 2010, 02:51:45 PM
I saw it bandied about somewhere that Cooneys salary is €300k. Dunno how accurate that was.
It's €170k ballpark - that's what he's on in FAS so the GAA has to match it.
It was a similar situation with Nicky Brennan who is a senior Manager in Glanbia
Yep, and if you're a teacher, you stay on a techer's salary. HQ pay your employer, given that the President's job is only temporary.
It's actually €158k/year, which is just over a third of the IFA Chief's salary.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/fas-officials--wages-to-cost-gaa-8364470000-in-three-years-1599619.html
The GAA president should be a pensioner!
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 09, 2010, 06:28:17 PM
A guy I know who's linked to rugby was telling me that the rugger buggers were glad to be out of Croker as they reckoned the Croke Park management was out to shaft them at every opportunity. He also said that it seemed that the FAI were absolute pushovers in this regard displaying an inability to negotiate effectively with the result that Croke Park had a field day fleecing them at every chance
who was this bloke you met down pub and what position did he hold in the Irfu
Quote from: rosnarun on August 09, 2010, 09:46:57 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 09, 2010, 06:28:17 PM
A guy I know who's linked to rugby was telling me that the rugger buggers were glad to be out of Croker as they reckoned the Croke Park management was out to shaft them at every opportunity. He also said that it seemed that the FAI were absolute pushovers in this regard displaying an inability to negotiate effectively with the result that Croke Park had a field day fleecing them at every chance
who was this bloke you met down pub and what position did he hold in the Irfu
I don't recall saying anything about meeting him in a pub, nor do I remember suggesting he held any position in IRFU
Is that the Delaney character who inherited the job who gets the 435,000.
Regardless of the other guys - I think we have now arrived at the situation whereby the presidents role should be done away with, it is an honoury position with a professional ceos cost. It should at best be an honoury position. Dare I say that these costs spiralled during the celtic tiger. I would also have a problem with someone getting a job to match their existing salary, that can only be the wont of a business appointment ie on worth. Was Cooney worth more than 10 thousand other volunteers who would have done it for nothing? With crowds down, prices up, rules problems and Dessie Farrell in Croke Park offices, unequitable disciplinary measures - I have my doubts that the president is running a tight ship or running anything - a sensible man with a sensible head could have the GAAs major problems sorted out in a week.
Handling problems, upholding the constitution and making changes while maintaining unity, is a complex business.
Subvert the constitution like Cooney in order to avoid mayhem, you get slated
Respect the constitution process for making a big change and maintain unity like Kelly and you still get slated.
The old fast count of the show of hands at congress to avoid any contentious change, probably worked best.
I'm amazed soccer dublin fella hasnt commented on this thread ::)