Anybody know when the draw is on for this. As a Mayo fan I don't have the stomach for the inevitable defeat that is going to come very very quickly. Any half decent organised outfit will push us out.
For now the teams going into the hat are:
Mayo
London
Carlow
Longford
Offaly
Wicklow
Dublin/Wexford
Meath/Laois
Kildare
Tipperary
Clare
Derry
Donegal
Antrim
Fermanagh/Cavan
Armagh
Winners of the first round of games go on to meet the one of the losing provincial semi-finalists.
Winners of Round 2 play off for a chance to meet a losing provincial finalist.
Id guess the draw will take place next sunday after all the 1st round games are completed!
Caught in two minds here, a nordie side away to put us out of our misery or a home draw against London to slowly start buildong belief and confidence again and maybe a good run... ???
Two years ago we went negative in the qualifiers and got results it wasn't pretty (Kildare V Fernanagh anyone?) have a feeling though that will be the direction we take...
Whoever gets Mayo will be happy I would imagine. Not too many Mayo people I've spoken to have said that they'd wish to go on a long run. I dunno, maybe get Kildare or loser of Armagh/Monaghan today could save us a lot of hassle and expense... :-\
Ah come on - we know our Mayo supporters around here. A big win over Carlow and the wagon will be back on the rails and the talk of August and September weekends in Dublin will be back in full swing.
Them Mayo followers in Meath maybe so Hardy ;), but part of me wants to lose the next day... and isn't it any wonder.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 06, 2010, 12:39:02 PM
Them Mayo followers in Meath maybe so Hardy ;), but part of me wants to lose the next day... and isn't it any wonder.
It sounds like a bipolar condition, Hardy.
Some weekend with Mayo, Kildare and Armagh all losing
Does anyone know for sure when the draw for the 1st round of the backdoor will take place? The 3 remaining quarter-finals (Cavan v Fermanagh, Meath v Laois and Dublin v Wexford) all take place next weekend. I predict Armagh v Derry a repeat of the preliminary round or Armagh v Kieran McGeeney's Kildare.
Sunday 13 June
THE SUNDAY GAME LIVE EXTRA
Island of Ireland - 6.00pm
Michael Lyster presents live coverage of the GAA Championship draw for the first round of the Football and Hurling Championship qualifiers from Croke Park.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/webcastschedule.html
Quote from: Barney on June 06, 2010, 11:58:39 AM
Anybody know when the draw is on for this. As a Mayo fan I don't have the stomach for the inevitable defeat that is going to come very very quickly. Any half decent organised outfit will push us out.
For now the teams going into the hat are:
Mayo
London
Carlow
Longford
Offaly
Westmeath/Wicklow
Dublin/Wexford
Meath/Laois
Kildare
Tipperary
Clare
Derry
Donegal
Antrim
Fermanagh/Cavan
Armagh/Monaghan
Ok - my money's on:
Antrim v Armagh
Derry v Donegal
Kildare v Offaly ... etc
All about money and convenience ..
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on June 06, 2010, 09:22:00 PM
Ok - my money's on:
Antrim v Armagh
Derry v Donegal
Kildare v Offaly ... etc
All about money and convenience ..
Well given 12 of the 16 teams will be from either Leinster or Ulster, there are bound to be derby games.
Of course the "genuises" will cry "fix" as usual.
Interesting the way the bookies have viewed the results from the weekend.
Updated odds for the All IrelandMonaghan 14/1
Mayo 25/1
Sligo 40/1
Armagh 50/1
Kildare 80/1
Louth 150/1
Quote from: Barney on June 06, 2010, 11:58:39 AM
Anybody know when the draw is on for this. As a Mayo fan I don't have the stomach for the inevitable defeat that is going to come very very quickly. Any half decent organised outfit will push us out.
For now the teams going into the hat are:
Mayo
London
Carlow
Longford
Offaly
Wicklow
Dublin/Wexford
Meath/Laois
Kildare
Tipperary
Clare
Derry
Donegal
Antrim
Fermanagh/Cavan
Armagh
Winners of the first round of games go on to meet the one of the losing provincial semi-finalists.
Winners of Round 2 play off for a chance to meet a losing provincial finalist.
As an Antrim man I'd like to
AVOIDDerry, Donegal, Armagh, Mayo, Kildare, (Dubs, Meath), but fancy we could give it a lash against the rest.
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production
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As an Antrim man I'd like to AVOID
Derry, Donegal, Armagh, Mayo, Kildare, (Dubs, Meath), but fancy we could give it a lash against the rest.
Surely Antrim could take at least Mayo and Kildare the way things are going. Some of the thoroughbreds are going to be very demoralised going into the qualifiers.
Quote from: seafoid on June 07, 2010, 01:39:44 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production
/quote]
As an Antrim man I'd like to AVOID
Derry, Donegal, Armagh, Mayo, Kildare, (Dubs, Meath), but fancy we could give it a lash against the rest.
Surely Antrim could take at least Mayo and Kildare the way things are going. Some of the thoroughbreds are going to be very demoralised going into the qualifiers.
I suppose the "wounded animal" and all that. I was at the Div 3 final and could see that Sligo performance coming...maybe Mayo just didn't and will be out to prove they're a better team than that the next day??
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on June 07, 2010, 01:44:59 PM
I was at the Div 3 final and could see that Sligo performance coming...maybe Mayo just didn't and will be out to prove they're a better team than that the next day??
Sligo were very impressive in the Div 3 final especially in terms of their conversion rate. I can recall very few wides from them that day and they were incredibly fast all over the field. The way they came back after Antrim's goal by rattling off 3 or 4 quick points completely demoralised Antrim.
I thought they would run Mayo close but thought Mayo would have enough to see them off. I think Sligo are better than they get credit for as Antrim weren't too far behind Tyrone.
Dark horses this year?
Qualifiers I reckon will be Derry v Antrim, though there are some very tasty possibilities.
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on June 07, 2010, 01:44:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 07, 2010, 01:39:44 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production
/quote]
As an Antrim man I'd like to AVOID
Derry, Donegal, Armagh, Mayo, Kildare, (Dubs, Meath), but fancy we could give it a lash against the rest.
Surely Antrim could take at least Mayo and Kildare the way things are going. Some of the thoroughbreds are going to be very demoralised going into the qualifiers.
I suppose the "wounded animal" and all that. I was at the Div 3 final and could see that Sligo performance coming...maybe Mayo just didn't and will be out to prove they're a better team than that the next day??
Yes but we were supposed to the "Wounded animal" after the capitualtion to Cork in the league final. Lots of apathy here in Mayo towards the team. We have never done well in the qualifiers, i dont think we'll do well this year either.
Anyone fancy drawing Cork or Kerry; instant exit!
Quote from: Sandy Hill on June 07, 2010, 05:26:30 PM
Anyone fancy drawing Cork or Kerry; instant exit!
Due to the 'level field' of the championship our Munster friends have the luxury of not entering the qualifiers until round two as their 1st game was a semi final. Where as Armagh, having played two good teams in Derry and Monaghan are still lumped into round 1. Fair? I think not.
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 07, 2010, 05:34:57 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on June 07, 2010, 05:26:30 PM
Anyone fancy drawing Cork or Kerry; instant exit!
Due to the 'level field' of the championship our Munster friends have the luxury of not entering the qualifiers until round two as their 1st game was a semi final. Where as Armagh, having played two good teams in Derry and Monaghan are still lumped into round 1. Fair? I think not.
But going into round 2 I'd prefer to be a team that has regrouped with a win rather than a team that has just come off losing a provincial semi.
Derry are hardly "good" btw!
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 07, 2010, 05:34:57 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on June 07, 2010, 05:26:30 PM
Anyone fancy drawing Cork or Kerry; instant exit!
Due to the 'level field' of the championship our Munster friends have the luxury of not entering the qualifiers until round two as their 1st game was a semi final. Where as Armagh, having played two good teams in Derry and Monaghan are still lumped into round 1. Fair? I think not.
To be fair Kerry played Tipperary. That's just the reality fo the provincial system. While we reaming wedded to it we'll continue to have these sorts of inconsistencies. There'll be at most 3 teams in all in the 1st round of the qualifiers who have won a match in the provincial championship. Armagh, Wicklow and Meath (if they lose to Laois).
Ah forgot bought the tipp game, had to use a lot of will power not to put a smiley icon after the derry being good bit hound but didnt want to annoy the inbred's!
Quote from: Sandy Hill on June 07, 2010, 05:26:30 PM
Anyone fancy drawing Cork or Kerry; instant exit!
I'd like to see Antrim have another go at Kerry actually. Just to put the shitters up them for a while. It would probably amount to nothing though.
In saying that perhaps Sligo were a better team than they got credit for.
From todays newspaper.....
Counties that were handed away fixtures in the first round of last year's All-Ireland football Qualifiers can look forward to a home game this year, unless they are drawn against another county who also had to travel in 2009.
In that case, a toss will decide who enjoys home advantage. The system is designed to ensure that counties don't have to rely on luck to give them a home game. The draw for the first-round Qualifiers, scheduled for Saturday, June 26. will be held on Sunday evening.
The counties who played away in the first round last year were: Tipperary, Waterford, Armagh, Fermanagh, Offaly, Carlow, Longford and London.
Waterford, who reached the Munster semi-final, won't be in the first-round draw this year, while Fermanagh will avoid it if they beat Cavan in the Ulster quarter-final on.
Down, Louth, Meath, Monaghan, Wicklow, Wexford, Donegal and Leitrim all had home games last year.
Teams in Sunday's qualifiers draw: Carlow, Offaly, Longford, Kildare, Wicklow, Derry, Antrim, Donegal, Armagh, Tipperary, Clare, London, Mayo. They will be joined by the losers from Cavan v Fermanagh, Laois v Meath, Dublin v Wexford.
Tipperary, Armagh, (Fermanagh), Offaly, Carlow, Longford and London.
If a county cannot host a game for capacity reasons, can they nominate a venue or is a neutral venue chosen?
Armagh would have problems (probably for the last time, as with the fall off in attendance and the redevelopment of the Athletic Grounds we would be OK for next year).
We could probably have a game with Carlow, Offaly, Longford, Wicklow, Tipperary, Clare or London in Cross'.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2010, 02:58:19 PM
If a county cannot host a game for capacity reasons, can they nominate a venue or is a neutral venue chosen?
Armagh would have problems (probably for the last time, as with the fall off in attendance and the redevelopment of the Athletic Grounds we would be OK for next year).
We could probably have a game with Carlow, Offaly, Longford, Wicklow, Tipperary, Clare or London in Cross'.
I would've thought you're right but the minors had to play their "home" game in Newry against Monaghan, somebody told me that Cross didn't come up to the criteria set down for Championship football?? Sounds strange. If that's the case then Armagh couldn't play at a home venue at all. Anybody know the story with this?
It would be a long journey to Wexford if we're drawn against them!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 06, 2010, 12:31:45 PM
Whoever gets Mayo will be happy I would imagine. Not too many Mayo people I've spoken to have said that they'd wish to go on a long run. I dunno, maybe get Kildare or loser of Armagh/Monaghan today could save us a lot of hassle and expense... :-\
Who wants to avoid anything? Surely, the chance of getting an opportunity to hop a few effs off John O'Mahony anytime, anywhere is reason enough to tag along? ;D
In order of preference ...
London
Carlow
Clare
Longford
Offaly
Laois
Wicklow
Tipperary
Fermanagh
Wexford
Antrim
Derry
Kildare
Mayo
Armagh
Brick to miss first round of Qualifiers
Donegal forward Dermot Molloy will miss the opening game in the All-Ireland qualifier series after being hit with a retrospective four-week ban.
Molloy has been suspended after the CCCC asked Cavan referee Joe McQuillan to review video evidence of an incident involving Down's Damien Rafferty in the early stages of the Ulster SFC quarter-final last week, which Tony Davis discussed on The Sunday Game.
It's understood that McQuillan informed the CCCC that, had he seen the incident, he would have issued a straight red card. Molloy marked his debut with a 1-3 tally in the defeat to the Mourne men, but is now set to miss out on the first round of the qualifiers that are penned in for the weekend of June 26.
The draw for the Qualifiers will take place on RTE2 on Sunday next at 6 p.m. Donegal will have some big names along with them in the hat after last weekend's shock defeats for Mayo, Armagh and Kildare. Also in the hat will be the likes of Derry and Boxer Brady's Antrim and either Fermanagh or Cavan from Ulster, with teams such as Carlow, Tipperary, Clare, Longford also included.
Quote from: drici on June 11, 2010, 10:34:23 AM
Brick to miss first round of Qualifiers
Donegal forward Dermot Molloy will miss the opening game in the All-Ireland qualifier series after being hit with a retrospective four-week ban.
Molloy has been suspended after the CCCC asked Cavan referee Joe McQuillan to review video evidence of an incident involving Down's Damien Rafferty in the early stages of the Ulster SFC quarter-final last week, which Tony Davis discussed on The Sunday Game.
It's understood that McQuillan informed the CCCC that, had he seen the incident, he would have issued a straight red card. Molloy marked his debut with a 1-3 tally in the defeat to the Mourne men, but is now set to miss out on the first round of the qualifiers that are penned in for the weekend of June 26.
The draw for the Qualifiers will take place on RTE2 on Sunday next at 6 p.m. Donegal will have some big names along with them in the hat after last weekend's shock defeats for Mayo, Armagh and Kildare. Also in the hat will be the likes of Derry and Boxer Brady's Antrim and either Fermanagh or Cavan from Ulster, with teams such as Carlow, Tipperary, Clare, Longford also included.
I assume that should be "Baker Bradley's Antrim", unless they are accusing Kevin or young Colin of being a boxer?
Quote from: móidín doire on June 11, 2010, 10:48:16 AM
Quote from: drici on June 11, 2010, 10:34:23 AM
Brick to miss first round of Qualifiers
Donegal forward Dermot Molloy will miss the opening game in the All-Ireland qualifier series after being hit with a retrospective four-week ban.
Molloy has been suspended after the CCCC asked Cavan referee Joe McQuillan to review video evidence of an incident involving Down's Damien Rafferty in the early stages of the Ulster SFC quarter-final last week, which Tony Davis discussed on The Sunday Game.
It's understood that McQuillan informed the CCCC that, had he seen the incident, he would have issued a straight red card. Molloy marked his debut with a 1-3 tally in the defeat to the Mourne men, but is now set to miss out on the first round of the qualifiers that are penned in for the weekend of June 26.
The draw for the Qualifiers will take place on RTE2 on Sunday next at 6 p.m. Donegal will have some big names along with them in the hat after last weekend's shock defeats for Mayo, Armagh and Kildare. Also in the hat will be the likes of Derry and Boxer Brady's Antrim and either Fermanagh or Cavan from Ulster, with teams such as Carlow, Tipperary, Clare, Longford also included.
I assume that should be "Baker Bradley's Antrim", unless they are accusing Kevin or young Colin of being a boxer?
Nope, definitely Kevin "Boxer" Bradley.
Quote from: RMDrive on June 11, 2010, 09:36:50 AM
In order of preference ...
London
Carlow
Clare
Longford
Offaly
Laois
Wicklow
Tipperary
Fermanagh
Wexford
Antrim
Derry
Kildare
Mayo
Armagh
That is about right. But I would put Tipperary a bit higher, between Wexford and Antrim.
But (for other teams) where to put Donegal in that list ? Between Kildare and Derry maybe
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 11, 2010, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: móidín doire on June 11, 2010, 10:48:16 AM
Quote from: drici on June 11, 2010, 10:34:23 AM
Brick to miss first round of Qualifiers
Donegal forward Dermot Molloy will miss the opening game in the All-Ireland qualifier series after being hit with a retrospective four-week ban.
Molloy has been suspended after the CCCC asked Cavan referee Joe McQuillan to review video evidence of an incident involving Down's Damien Rafferty in the early stages of the Ulster SFC quarter-final last week, which Tony Davis discussed on The Sunday Game.
It's understood that McQuillan informed the CCCC that, had he seen the incident, he would have issued a straight red card. Molloy marked his debut with a 1-3 tally in the defeat to the Mourne men, but is now set to miss out on the first round of the qualifiers that are penned in for the weekend of June 26.
The draw for the Qualifiers will take place on RTE2 on Sunday next at 6 p.m. Donegal will have some big names along with them in the hat after last weekend's shock defeats for Mayo, Armagh and Kildare. Also in the hat will be the likes of Derry and Boxer Brady's Antrim and either Fermanagh or Cavan from Ulster, with teams such as Carlow, Tipperary, Clare, Longford also included.
I assume that should be "Baker Bradley's Antrim", unless they are accusing Kevin or young Colin of being a boxer?
Nope, definitely Kevin "Boxer" Bradley.
is there a story there SS?
Quote from: western exile on June 10, 2010, 01:55:47 PM
From todays newspaper.....
Counties that were handed away fixtures in the first round of last year's All-Ireland football Qualifiers can look forward to a home game this year, unless they are drawn against another county who also had to travel in 2009.
This would be funny, if you didn't remember that while we can tie ourselves in knots with shite like this, we can't even organise the fixture timing for the Ulster Hurling Championship without asking one team to play in two separate competitions on successive days,.
Quote from: Hardy on June 11, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
Quote from: western exile on June 10, 2010, 01:55:47 PM
From todays newspaper.....
Counties that were handed away fixtures in the first round of last year's All-Ireland football Qualifiers can look forward to a home game this year, unless they are drawn against another county who also had to travel in 2009.
This would be funny, if you didn't remember that while we can tie ourselves in knots with shite like this, we can't even organise the fixture timing for the Ulster Hurling Championship without asking one team to play in two separate competitions on successive days,.
I agree. But even if we understand that the national hurling competition schedulers in Croke Park do not talk to the Ulster Council (inexcusable) , what is strange to me is why the London County Board did not notice this scheduling faux pas until last week?
Quote from: Hardy on June 11, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
Quote from: western exile on June 10, 2010, 01:55:47 PM
From todays newspaper.....
Counties that were handed away fixtures in the first round of last year's All-Ireland football Qualifiers can look forward to a home game this year, unless they are drawn against another county who also had to travel in 2009.
This would be funny, if you didn't remember that while we can tie ourselves in knots with shite like this, we can't even organise the fixture timing for the Ulster Hurling Championship without asking one team to play in two separate competitions on successive days,.
and that leaves derry where exactly? We didn't enter the qualifiers until round 2 and played both rounds 2 and 3 away from home.
I hope Armagh get either Mayo, Kildare or Antrim so that we will know for sure where we're at. If we lose then we're out and no more money wasted the rest of the year (and we'll know we are crop), if we win we'll know that the Monaghan result was not a true reflection of where we're really at :-\
Quote from: Bogball XV on June 11, 2010, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 11, 2010, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: móidín doire on June 11, 2010, 10:48:16 AM
Quote from: drici on June 11, 2010, 10:34:23 AM
Brick to miss first round of Qualifiers
Donegal forward Dermot Molloy will miss the opening game in the All-Ireland qualifier series after being hit with a retrospective four-week ban.
Molloy has been suspended after the CCCC asked Cavan referee Joe McQuillan to review video evidence of an incident involving Down's Damien Rafferty in the early stages of the Ulster SFC quarter-final last week, which Tony Davis discussed on The Sunday Game.
It's understood that McQuillan informed the CCCC that, had he seen the incident, he would have issued a straight red card. Molloy marked his debut with a 1-3 tally in the defeat to the Mourne men, but is now set to miss out on the first round of the qualifiers that are penned in for the weekend of June 26.
The draw for the Qualifiers will take place on RTE2 on Sunday next at 6 p.m. Donegal will have some big names along with them in the hat after last weekend's shock defeats for Mayo, Armagh and Kildare. Also in the hat will be the likes of Derry and Boxer Brady's Antrim and either Fermanagh or Cavan from Ulster, with teams such as Carlow, Tipperary, Clare, Longford also included.
I assume that should be "Baker Bradley's Antrim", unless they are accusing Kevin or young Colin of being a boxer?
Nope, definitely Kevin "Boxer" Bradley.
is there a story there SS?
Not really. I only found out his real name in this match report and have been using it ever since.
QuoteQuote from: drici on April 30, 2010, 11:58:19 AM
Sligo shine on Croker stage!
Sligo 0-19 Antrim 1-11
YES, they were that good.
While Sligo, en route to promotion from Division Three and now this section's champions, have thrilled or chilled their loyal fans by making life hard for themselves – can they do it any other way? – Saturday's slick five-points defeat of Antrim, 0-19 to 1-11, revealed a reborn attitude although one wonders how Antrim got promoted at all.
This was a Sligo team, guided assuredly by Kevin Walsh, taking charge of its own destiny – at no less a venue than plush Croke Park – and happy to do so.
New Sligo, basking in their new found identity, knew they were promoted irrespective of the outcome of this Allianz GAA Football National League fixture, their last in Division Three as they take on the steeper trails of Division Two in 2011.
Playing with purpose, Sligo's defensive interceptions and their flowing offensive moves delighted the followers who made the trip and those who opted to watch the action unfold 'live' on TG4.
Inspired defensively by irrepressible team captain Charlie Harrison, at midfield by Stephen Gilmartin, a Sligo U-21 last year but a mature revelation in a major fixture such as this, and in attack by Alan Costello, David Kelly and Colm McGee, the latter supplying five of Sligo's 19 points, Sligo went about their task as if winning meant everything. It did.
Division Four champions in 2009, Division Three champions in 2010, this result mattered alright. Not just in the context of completing this year's National League with a flourish, but in terms of showing where they are at with the Connacht Senior Championship, and specifically that quarter-final against Division One runners-up Mayo, coming up at Markievicz Park in June.
An often sublime display was summed up well by the various statistics. This was Sligo's fifth successive win, their second game to almost reach the 20-points mark and a rich return from an in-form attack – five of the six starting forwards scored and there were seven scorers in all.
Sligo had heroes aplenty. Those players mentioned above – Gilmartin, with three points, and Costello, who made dozens of clever passes, the standout performers – as Ross Donovan, Mark Quinn, Mark Breheny, Johnny Davey, Keelan Cawley and Tony Taylor each prospered marvellously.
Noel McGuire, composed again, and substitute Stephen Coen, who fizzed over three second-half points, also excelled.
Eamon O'Hara, Sligo's other second-half replacement, was also comfortable in a setting that he made his own back in 2001 and 2002 when Sligo spectacularly punched above its weight.
Antrim weren't just overwhelmed, they weren't even at the races. Corner-forward Paddy Cunningham apart – he scored six points, four in the first-half – Kevin 'Boxer' Bradley's side lacked direction and leadership although the loss of midfielder Brendan Herron via an early first-half injury was a mitigating factor.
Although they were ahead briefly in the first-half and three times level with their more adroit opponents, Antrim were, overall, the most feeble of finalists.
Indeed, the losers' one notable moment, Michael McCann's goal which suddenly suggested a much closer than anticipated finish with 12 minutes of normal time left, was mercilessly crushed by Sligo's tremendous response – three rapid-fire points from Stephen Coen (2) and Mark Breheny that turned a two-points lead into a five-points cushion.
To borrow boxing parlance, Sligo's ability to absorb punches and counter with devastating shots of their own was the ultimate difference. Four points up at half-time, 0-9 to 0-5, and only behind once, 0-3 to 0-2, when Cunningham hit a 17th minute free, Sligo immediately settled when Mark Breheny pointed after 64 seconds.
The move developed from perceptive passing – Francis Quinn and Kenneth Sweeney involved – and such movement, awareness of space and clever use of possession evolved into something that Antrim couldn't match.
Midfielder Stephen Gilmartin's ability to find the range with points – two in the first-half and one in the second period – Alan Costello's feverish distribution and direct running plus David Kelly's industry (he was the catalyst for numerous scores) were consistently notable features Meanwhile, Colm McGee and Mark Breheny each fired over Sligo's most eye-catching points, McGee taking scores with both feet, and Breheny contributed his finest point, his fourth and Sligo's 16th, in the phase when Antrim's goal was erased.
Sligo fans are smiling again, their faith fully restored. Why not? After last weekend's glorious show, anything is possible.
Quote from: illdecide on June 11, 2010, 11:52:49 AM
I hope Armagh get either Mayo, Kildare or Antrim so that we will know for sure where we're at. If we lose then we're out and no more money wasted the rest of the year (and we'll know we are crop), if we win we'll know that the Monaghan result was not a true reflection of where we're really at :-\
That would be far from ideal. Even if they are crap, it's vital they get a win or two in the qualifiers to lift some of the gloom. Another first round loss will leave a very dark cloud hanging over the management for the next six months, and will leave them under serious pressure next year. Last thing we need is another management team living on borrowed time, as McDonnell seemed to be in his second year.
GAA Qualifier Draw
Sunday 13 June - 18:12
The draw for the first round of the GAA football qualifiers live from Croke Park.
The draw will be covered live as part of the Sports News during the Six One News
The Draw is also live on the RTE Website.
Quote from: RMDrive on June 11, 2010, 09:36:50 AM
In order of preference ...
London
Carlow
Clare
Longford
Offaly
Laois
Wicklow
Tipperary
Fermanagh
Wexford
Antrim
Derry
Kildare
Mayo
Armagh
they arent in the draw
Ya he took a a stab at that one ahead of the game last night. Wexford or Laois might not be in it either but he's picking the losers on form. I'd stick Cavan in about where he had put Fermanagh.
Can Derry meet Armagh in the first round of the qualifiers having already met them in the c'ship. I thought there was a rule that stopped this happening or does that not include the preliminary round?
Quote from: andoireabu on June 13, 2010, 02:39:18 PM
Can Derry meet Armagh in the first round of the qualifiers having already met them in the c'ship. I thought there was a rule that stopped this happening or does that not include the preliminary round?
Correct.
They can't meet.
that rule wasnt there at the beginning, then it was, now it isnt. So as far as i know Derry v Armagh is possible
clear as muck as usual then. Have to love the GAA!
Draw on now
Handy draw for whoever loses in Croke Park now anyway - London.
Carlow v Derry
Kildare v Antrim
Offaly v Clare
Mayo v Longofrd
Armagh v Donegal bollix!
Cavan v Wickla
Tipp v Meath/Laois
armagh v donegal seems to be the pick of
Here we go :
Wexford v London
Carlow v Derry
Kildare v Antrim
Offaly v Clare
Mayo v Longford
Armagh v Donegal
Cavan v Wicklow
Tipperary v Laois/ Meath
now back to tv3
Home advantage for first drawn teams?
Think so - unless you were in the qualifiers last year and were drawn away
Cross will hardly be fit to host the Armagh/Donegal game?
Does that mean Armagh forfeit home advantage to Donegal or will it be a neutral venue?
Any ideas where the field is in Carlow. don't think i've been in the county in my life
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 13, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
Cross will hardly be fit to host the Armagh/Donegal game?
Does that mean Armagh forfeit home advantage to Donegal or will it be a neutral venue?
It means the game will be in Clones.
Armagh match has to be played in Cross - make it all ticket
I expect Armagh v Donegal to be in Clones or Omagh.
Why Omagh? Is it Armagh's choice?
What a suprise.
However when Armagh got battered by Down in the league Donegal were on the other side of the backlash again.
Whoever wins will get Derry though :o
Quote from: orangeman on June 13, 2010, 06:25:30 PM
Here we go :
Wexford v London
Carlow v Derry
Kildare v Antrim
Offaly v Clare
Mayo v Longford
Armagh v Donegal
Cavan v Wicklow
Tipperary v Laois/ Meath
tough game for Antrim, but they could make it through. any venues picked?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2010, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: orangeman on June 13, 2010, 06:25:30 PM
Here we go :
Wexford v London
Carlow v Derry
Kildare v Antrim
Offaly v Clare
Mayo v Longford
Armagh v Donegal
Cavan v Wicklow
Tipperary v Laois/ Meath
tough game for Antrim, but they could make it through. any venues picked?
I think its first out gets a home draw. However If your last qualifier was an away match then you get a home draw this year. I may be wrong.
Venues will be announced tomorrow
Armagh game will be in cross
guys there will only be about 7000 at this match
seriously difficult match for Armagh
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 06:38:48 PM
I expect Armagh v Donegal to be in Clones or Omagh.
is the athletic ground not finished?
Mayo got a relatively good draw. I can see a red and green mist coming in from the atlantic.
Quoteis the athletic ground not finished?
While three sides of the ground are finished, they are building this yoke at the Athlethic grouunds in Armagh
(http://i50.tinypic.com/f1ks5h.jpg)
We'll be rightly able for the qualifiers in future years, if anyone still follows Armagh.
Mayo/Longford double-header in C'bar with Mayo/Ros minors? Or will they move them to the Hyde?
Longford will be at home against Mayo
Quote from: andoireabu on June 13, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
Any ideas where the field is in Carlow. don't think i've been in the county in my life
Dr cullen park. middle of Carlow town. Can't miss it.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 07:19:44 PM
Quoteis the athletic ground not finished?
While three sides of the ground are finished, they are building this yoke at the Athlethic grouunds in Armagh
(http://i50.tinypic.com/f1ks5h.jpg)
We'll be rightly able for the qualifiers in future years, if anyone still follows Armagh.
Is the ceannarus getting knocked down?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2010, 07:51:22 PM
Longford will be at home against Mayo
Did they play away in their first game last year or what?
Dr Cullen Park
On M9 motorway take Junction 4 exit sign-posted Carlow - straight all way - straight through 1st round-about - next roundabout turn right and Dr Cullen is on your right.
Counties that were handed away fixtures in the first round of last year's All-Ireland football Qualifiers can look forward to a home game this year, unless they are drawn against another county who also had to travel in 2009.
In that case, a toss will decide who enjoys home advantage. The system is designed to ensure that counties don't have to rely on luck to give them a home game. The draw for the first-round Qualifiers, scheduled for Saturday, June 26. will be held on Sunday evening.
The counties who played away in the first round last year were: Tipperary, Waterford, Armagh, Fermanagh, Offaly, Carlow, Longford and London.
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on June 13, 2010, 07:58:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 07:19:44 PM
Quoteis the athletic ground not finished?
While three sides of the ground are finished, they are building this yoke at the Athlethic grouunds in Armagh
(http://i50.tinypic.com/f1ks5h.jpg)
We'll be rightly able for the qualifiers in future years, if anyone still follows Armagh.
Is the ceannarus getting knocked down?
It looks like it's still stuck in the middle of the stand, which could look pretty stupid.
Quote from: naka on June 13, 2010, 07:13:36 PM
Armagh game will be in cross
guys there will only be about 7000 at this match
seriously difficult match for Armagh
Not convinced they'll be allowed to have it in Cross.
Quote from: andoireabu on June 13, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
Any ideas where the field is in Carlow. don't think i've been in the county in my life
The couple of times I was there I came into the town from Castledermot and when you come to the "Dr Cullen Roundabout" you are there more or less.
I seeSatan looked after his own again >:( a soft draw for the Rhubarbs >:(
Derry will travel to Carlow as both sides were away last year and Carlow were first out of the hat (both lost to donegal in last year's qualifiers).
I'd be surprised if the armagh game is in armagh.
Have a bad feeling about Mayo losing to Longford. Then again it'd have been the same no matter who they had drawn.
The likes of Derry and Mayo have landed draws that could put them back on track and see a run to the quarters.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2010, 08:05:42 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on June 13, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
Any ideas where the field is in Carlow. don't think i've been in the county in my life
The couple of times I was there I came into the town from Castledermot and when you come to the "Dr Cullen Roundabout" you are there more or less.
I seeSatan looked after his own again >:( a soft draw for the Rhubarbs >:(
Satan might be a Mayoman but Roscommon is surely Hell.
QuoteSatan might be a Mayoman but Roscommon is surely Hell.
Perhaps thats why Mayo has siezed part of it.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
QuoteSatan might be a Mayoman but Roscommon is surely Hell.
Perhaps thats why Mayo has siezed part of it.
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
QuoteSatan might be a Mayoman but Roscommon is surely Hell.
Perhaps thats why Mayo has siezed part of it.
as in the same way yous pay your taxes to the devil
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
QuoteSatan might be a Mayoman but Roscommon is surely Hell.
Perhaps thats why Mayo has siezed part of it.
;D ;D ;D
Athlone is the best part of Westmeath ;D
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on June 13, 2010, 08:30:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
QuoteSatan might be a Mayoman but Roscommon is surely Hell.
Perhaps thats why Mayo has siezed part of it.
;D ;D ;D
Athlone is the best part of Westmeath ;D
Westmeath must be some effin kip so.
Athlone makes even Mayo look good.
Paddypower odds
Kerry 7/4
Cork 11/4
Tyrone 4/1
Dublin 10/1
Galway 16/1
Monaghan 16/1
Mayo 28/1
Meath 28/1
Down 33/1
Sligo 40/1
Armagh 66/1
Laois 66/1
Derry 66/1
Kildare 80/1
Limerick 80/1
Donegal 150/1
Westmeath 150/1
Fermanagh 150/1
Louth 150/1
Antrim 250/1
Cavan 300/1
Wexford 300/1
If that's after the draw Donegal aren't much competition for Armagh!
By the sounds of things Mayo will be travelling to Longford. Reckon it is a good draw for Mayo to mabye build a bit of confidence to the side, and who knows, even get a run going in the qualifiers!! If we can't beat Longford, then we've seriously fallen behind over the last 2 games!
They could be the first victims on the long road to the third sunday in September. ;) :D ;D ::)
QuoteDerry will travel to Carlow as both sides were away last year
I hope AARoadwatch are aware of this, it could put stress on the M50.
glad to get a home draw,at last
Only the second game we have drawn at home since the qualifiers were introduced in 2001.
>:( >:(
hows that for bad luck to you?
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 08:50:25 PM
QuoteDerry will travel to Carlow as both sides were away last year
I hope AARoadwatch are aware of this, it could put stress on the M50.
Only if both cars are making the journey.
Quote from: Redgreenery on June 13, 2010, 08:47:53 PM
By the sounds of things Mayo will be travelling to Longford. Reckon it is a good draw for Mayo to mabye build a bit of confidence to the side, and who knows, even get a run going in the qualifiers!! If we can't beat Longford, then we've seriously fallen behind over the last 2 games!
They could be the first victims on the long road to the third sunday in September. ;) :D ;D ::)
don't be so quick to write them off. Derry lost there in 06 in a cracker, the dubs narrowly beat them there the same year. Last year future All Ireland champions Kerry went there and could easily have been beaten but for poor finishing, it was a better game than Mayo have given them in the championship in years.
Longford have been an unmitigated disaster this year so far.
Only London and Kilkenny finished below them in the NFL so regrettably the chances of them slaying the rhubarb monster are virtually nil.
Good draw for Mayo though Longford may not be as bad as imagined considering Louth's subsequent performance. All depends on how things are in the L'ford camp and if they are still interested. Still you would think that Mayo will have way too much in the tank regardless of whether game is home or away. Johnno still has some luck left!!!
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 08:38:12 PM
Paddypower odds
Kerry 7/4
Cork 11/4
Tyrone 4/1
Dublin 10/1
Galway 16/1
Monaghan 16/1
Mayo 28/1
Meath 28/1
Down 33/1
Sligo 40/1
Armagh 66/1
Laois 66/1
Derry 66/1
Kildare 80/1
Limerick 80/1
Donegal 150/1
Westmeath 150/1
Fermanagh 150/1
Louth 150/1
Antrim 250/1
Cavan 300/1
Wexford 300/1
How do they work that out. they got relegated and beat an antrim team that lay down in the first half and should have had them by the end of it. plus armagh beat derry well but they are at the same price.
could see donegal suprise armagh. they will be up for it after the way they lost to down
Quote from: andoireabu on June 13, 2010, 09:26:01 PMplus armagh beat derry well but they are at the same price.
could see donegal suprise armagh. they will be up for it after the way they lost to down
You've just answered your own point. Armagh are at those odds because they have a tough first round qualifier. Derry on the other hand, have a handy one.
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 13, 2010, 09:33:10 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on June 13, 2010, 09:26:01 PMplus armagh beat derry well but they are at the same price.
could see donegal suprise armagh. they will be up for it after the way they lost to down
You've just answered your own point. Armagh are at those odds because they have a tough first round qualifier. Derry on the other hand, have a handy one.
and that aside, whilst derry may have been well beat by armagh, would you expect the same result if they met again? There's fcuk all between them all really.
Quote from: Bogball XV on June 13, 2010, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 13, 2010, 09:33:10 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on June 13, 2010, 09:26:01 PMplus armagh beat derry well but they are at the same price.
could see donegal suprise armagh. they will be up for it after the way they lost to down
You've just answered your own point. Armagh are at those odds because they have a tough first round qualifier. Derry on the other hand, have a handy one.
and that aside, whilst derry may have been well beat by armagh, would you expect the same result if they met again? There's fcuk all between them all really.
There's probably very little between them. In reality, Derry's odds should be higher than Armagh's as Armagh are more likely to go out in round 1 than Derry.
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 13, 2010, 09:33:10 PM
Derry on the other hand, have a handy one.
I'm sure the Blessed Luke Dempsey will be fondly remembering his last experience of Derry in the qualifiers.
Quote from: andoireabu on June 13, 2010, 09:26:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 08:38:12 PM
Paddypower odds
Kerry 7/4
Cork 11/4
Tyrone 4/1
Dublin 10/1
Galway 16/1
Monaghan 16/1
Mayo 28/1
Meath 28/1
Down 33/1
Sligo 40/1
Armagh 66/1
Laois 66/1
Derry 66/1
Kildare 80/1
Limerick 80/1
Donegal 150/1
Westmeath 150/1
Fermanagh 150/1
Louth 150/1
Antrim 250/1
Cavan 300/1
Wexford 300/1
How do they work that out. they got relegated and beat an antrim team that lay down in the first half and should have had them by the end of it. plus armagh beat derry well but they are at the same price.
could see donegal suprise armagh. they will be up for it after the way they lost to down
Bookies are stupid. What do they know? Idiots! :P
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 13, 2010, 08:05:04 PM
Quote from: naka on June 13, 2010, 07:13:36 PM
Armagh game will be in cross
guys there will only be about 7000 at this match
seriously difficult match for Armagh
Not convinced they'll be allowed to have it in Cross.
Why? Didnt Tyrone have to travel to Drogheda a few years back? I believe there were about 17 at it!
Quote from: cadhlancian on June 14, 2010, 03:34:25 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 13, 2010, 08:05:04 PM
Quote from: naka on June 13, 2010, 07:13:36 PM
Armagh game will be in cross
guys there will only be about 7000 at this match
seriously difficult match for Armagh
Not convinced they'll be allowed to have it in Cross.
Why? Didnt Tyrone have to travel to Drogheda a few years back? I believe there were about 17 at it!
think that was played in Navan?
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 13, 2010, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 08:50:25 PM
QuoteDerry will travel to Carlow as both sides were away last year
I hope AARoadwatch are aware of this, it could put stress on the M50.
Only if both cars are making the journey.
after a quick look at the attendances thread, it seems apparent that many of the armagh masses seem to be falling away in the manner of a derry supporter, at least the derry ones are likely to still be watching club football, maybe not the case with the once mighty orange hordes ;)
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
QuoteSatan might be a Mayoman but Roscommon is surely Hell.
Perhaps thats why Mayo has siezed part of it.
It is the other way around. ::) Check your history books. It was Roscommon who seized that part of Mayo in 1899 as per the Local Government Act of 1898.
You should know that the GAA boundaries do not follow todays Council boundaries (otherwise Crossmaglen would not be Armagh, but Newry and Mourne). The GAA boundry is, and always has been, the boundaries that were in place when the associations began in 1884. So Ballaghaderreen is, and always will be, under the auspices of the Mayo County Board! Even while its political administration is Roscommon Council
QuoteIt is the other way around. ::) Check your history books
That was too easy......................
QuoteYou should know that the GAA boundaries do not follow todays Council boundaries (otherwise Crossmaglen would not be Armagh, but Newry and Mourne).
True. Newry and Mourne would be a competitive team for a district though.
Dates, Times & Venues for first round of the Football Qualifiers
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/06/14/dates-times-venues-for-first-round-of-the-football-qualifiers/
Quote from: western exile on June 14, 2010, 10:54:23 AM
and Mourne). The GAA boundry is, and always has been, the boundaries that were in place when the associations began in 1884.
Then how come Bray Emmets won an All Ireland as Dublin ???
Typical Rhubarb ...living in the dim and distant past. ::)
Qualifier Draw on on this Monday coming so it is
If Meath beat Dublin this Sunday they will play either Louth or Westmeath in the Leinster SFC final on Sunday, 11th July at Croke Park.
However, if the Royal County lose, they will be included in the second round of the All-Ireland SFC qualifiers.
The draw for the second round of the All-Ireland qualifiers will take place on Monday June 28th on TV3's Ireland AM between 8.00am and 8.30am.
The eight winners of the first round qualifiers will be pitted against the beaten Provincial Semi Finalists.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 14, 2010, 06:09:58 PM
Quote from: western exile on June 14, 2010, 10:54:23 AM
and Mourne). The GAA boundry is, and always has been, the boundaries that were in place when the associations began in 1884.
Then how come Bray Emmets won an All Ireland as Dublin ???
Typical Rhubarb ...living in the dim and distant past. ::)
He's a Down man you idiot! :D
Any man or otherwise, know the admission fee into these qualifers? Just saw an article on hoganstand that the GAA are reducing the price for the first round games
Quote from: Bogball XV on June 13, 2010, 09:01:26 PM
Quote from: Redgreenery on June 13, 2010, 08:47:53 PM
By the sounds of things Mayo will be travelling to Longford. Reckon it is a good draw for Mayo to mabye build a bit of confidence to the side, and who knows, even get a run going in the qualifiers!! If we can't beat Longford, then we've seriously fallen behind over the last 2 games!
They could be the first victims on the long road to the third sunday in September. ;) :D ;D ::)
don't be so quick to write them off. Derry lost there in 06 in a cracker, the dubs narrowly beat them there the same year. Last year future All Ireland champions Kerry went there and could easily have been beaten but for poor finishing, it was a better game than Mayo have given them in the championship in years.
sorta hadda go back and throw this out there again.
You weren't the only one to predict it Bogball. ;D ;D