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Title: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Maguire01 on March 14, 2010, 10:23:34 AM
Very important game now. 3 teams safe in Division 1 and 5 teams on 2 points with Monaghan bottom on scoring difference, with Derry second from bottom. Both teams have difficult final games (Monaghan away to Mayo and Kerry, Derry at home to Cork and away to Galway) and will be looking to get something out of this one. It's difficult to see both teams staying up and whoever loses this game is in big trouble (although given that 5 teams are on two points, it might not require 6 points to stay up).

As for the tie itself, there's plenty of history between these two teams with four recent championship ties in the last few years and two wins each. Monaghan's defeats to Derry last year will still be fresh in the mind. Scotstown however is a different proposition and Derry won't have anywhere near as much room as they had in the qualifier in Clones last year. It's all to play for. Expecting a tight and tough game.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: haranguerer on March 14, 2010, 10:47:03 AM
My valuable contribution is gonna be that monaghan are shite, and derry will only have themselves to blame if they lose this one (which wont happen despite their mental fragility)!
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Maguire01 on March 14, 2010, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on March 14, 2010, 10:47:03 AM
My valuable contribution is gonna be that monaghan are shite, and derry will only have themselves to blame if they lose this one (which wont happen despite their mental fragility)!
A very valuable contribution, all the way from (the bottom end of) Division 3. Thank you.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Maguire01 on March 16, 2010, 07:10:02 PM
Enough about last week's games! Roll on Sunday. Anyone from Derry making the trip?
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: whiskeysteve on March 16, 2010, 07:17:26 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 16, 2010, 07:10:02 PM
Enough about last week's games! Roll on Sunday. Anyone from Derry making the trip?

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Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2010, 08:02:14 PM
 ;D
That's not exactly tripping the light fantastic.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on March 17, 2010, 09:48:56 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on March 16, 2010, 07:17:26 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 16, 2010, 07:10:02 PM
Enough about last week's games! Roll on Sunday. Anyone from Derry making the trip?

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Just comin over the Glenshane pass there Steve?

  Lookin forward to this one - hard to call. Derry not goin great at the moment but Monaghan not much better. The home advantage might be the difference, hopefully! Should be a good tussle as there's a lot of recent history between us. We need to be tactically more astute than last Sat though, way too one-dimensional I thought..

Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: tbrick18 on March 18, 2010, 11:17:23 AM
Difficult to call this one. Both teams really need a win and both teams not playing well.
I dont think Derry can play much worse than they did last week and I'm hoping the experimentation is coming to an end as we need to get some sort of settled team before the championship.
Monaghan at home and with the recent history of these 2 teams will be a factor.
Impossible to call, 50-50.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Main Street on March 18, 2010, 11:36:41 AM
The betting goes Monaghan 10/11 Derry 11/10.
It's a great game for Monaghan as a barometer towards championship aspirations.
I hope both teams can have a good hard fought competitive tussle without any silly escalations.


Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on March 19, 2010, 10:56:37 AM
Gonna be a tough one with McArdle and Corey out, two of our most experienced players. I'd like to see a bit more tactical nuous from the sideline for this game, I was disappointed with the strategy last week. Dessie will start in corner back to man mark PB but he needs to stop the rash challenges.. Tommy Freeman needs to be kept close to goal and if support is needed out the field then bring McManus out. He's a natural HF/HB and shouldn't be left inside instead of Freeman. Rory Woods will likely get the nod in FF given hid strength which is an important factor if marking Kevin McCloy.

  Haven't really seen any of Derry this year so can't really comment. Still some very dangerous/effective men in their team, the Bradleys up front, Doc in the middle and McCloy and Gerard O Kane at the back.

Can't really call it yet I have to say...  :-\
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Main Street on March 19, 2010, 11:49:41 AM
Are McArdle and Corey definitely out, not just doubtful?
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on March 19, 2010, 12:09:57 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 19, 2010, 11:49:41 AM
Are McArdle and Corey definitely out, not just doubtful?

I don't know for definite actually, so apologies for attemptedly starting a rumour, but sure aren't message boards fuelled by rumours... McArdle had the magic (or not) blue tape stripe on his hamstring and seemed to aggrevate it early on so I'm not sure how serious that is. I never heard as to the extent of Corey's injury..
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Main Street on March 19, 2010, 12:21:56 PM
Message boards are cluttered with rumours :)

Judging by that, Vinny is not yet pronounced dead, so there is hope.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: handballref on March 19, 2010, 08:11:41 PM
Hard one to call indeed. Derry have been up and down since the start of this year. Played well against tyrone, not too bad against kerry and awful against dublin and mayo. however, cassidy has been very experimental so i wouldn't be too worried. though relegation is staring us in the face and it is important for us to stay up this year. paddy bradley starting in full forward again would be a start. played on the 40 last week against mayo and wasnt as effective. would be great to see declan mullan start in the WHF position. i think he could be very useful for us come championship but he has only played half an hour in the league because of injury. i dont know whether or not he is fit. full back is a problem for us at the moment. mccloy was given the run around against mayo. dermot mcbride and mick mcgoldrick in the corners, charlie kielt and possibly sean leo on the wings with gerard okane in the centre back position and hopefully doc and patsy will click in midfield. aidy mcl, kielt and mullan (if fit). if not fit i think we should try wilkinson in WHF. i think he would be good at winning breaking ball and that was an area we suffered in last week. the 2 bradleys and maybe lee moore in ff line. cant comment on monaghan at all because i havent seen much of them at all but i expect a very tight game.

it all depends on how experimental a team cassidy will put out. however it is an important game and i think he will want to do his best to come away with a win.

derry by 3 in a tight game  ;)
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: cameltohill on March 19, 2010, 11:26:35 PM
gonna be a close match-hopefully can retain div 1 status

the team i think will line out

dunne
mcguckian, an other, mcalary
kielt, b mcgoldrick, okane,
doc, patsy bradley
brian mullan, lynch, sean leo
p bradley, e bradley, a mclaughlin
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on March 20, 2010, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: cameltohill on March 19, 2010, 11:26:35 PM
gonna be a close match-hopefully can retain div 1 status

the team i think will line out

dunne
mcguckian, an other, mcalary
kielt, b mcgoldrick, okane,
doc, patsy bradley
brian mullan, lynch, sean leo
p bradley, e bradley, a mclaughlin

What's the story with Barry McGuigan this year?
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: KingLarsson on March 20, 2010, 01:02:03 PM
Fink he jus doz the boxing on sky sports with that boy called ian darkie
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Schkite on March 20, 2010, 07:46:46 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 19, 2010, 12:21:56 PM
Message boards are cluttered with rumours :)

Judging by that, Vinny is not yet pronounced dead, so there is hope.

Vinny's out for tomorrow's game anyway, no word on Strimmer.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Main Street on March 21, 2010, 04:48:56 PM
According to that most objective of sources, Northern Sound,  who covered the game, Derry were not up much today until knocking over 4 points in a row at the end, to put a flattering flavour to the final score.

Still an outside chance to stay up. It's not the be all and end all to stay up in Div 1 but at least there's more tv coverage. Next weeks game against Mayo  will be live on TG4
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Schkite on March 21, 2010, 04:57:05 PM
Aye good performance but sounds like Derry couldn't shoot to save their lives til the closing stages, scored as much in the last 5-10 minutes as they did in the whole first half. Having JP Mone back is a huge plus, it frees up Hughes to go out the field where he is best and adds alot of experience in what is a very young backline for the league. Will be hard to go to Mayo or Kerry and get a win, hopefully this win spurs us on more than the Tyrone one did! Div 2 is competitive too but it's good to be playing against the top teams in the country, so it'd be nice to stay up, a bit to do for that to happen though.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Schkite on March 21, 2010, 06:05:21 PM
According to early reports, among our best performers were McManus, McAdam, Greenan, Malone and the Hughes brothers, all lads 22/23 or younger, great to see the young lads doing well again. McManus in particular impressed, hitting 10 pts, seems like he is starting to bring his club form to the county stage and hopefully it continues.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Main Street on March 21, 2010, 08:01:16 PM
Glad to read that because Derry would even deprive you of a good gloat.
When you try to serve them a proper revenge dish in modest circumstances, they get a whiff of the starter, then run away.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Maguire01 on March 21, 2010, 09:36:32 PM
Great result for Monaghan today. Good to get the scoring difference sorted as well as the 2 points, although it was disappointing that Derry got in for the 4 late points.

Wasn't the most exciting game - was over as a competition fairly early, although Derry did themselves no favours, kicking a ton of wides.

The young lads did a great job for Monaghan - McManus with 10 points was great. Another good game by Clerkin - he's continuing to improve and is one of our most consistent performers.

Roll on Castlebar!
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Monaghan_Ultra on March 21, 2010, 09:49:19 PM
A scanned copy of today's match programme is now available on the Monaghan GAA Forum  (http://www.monaghangaaforum.proboards.com) for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Family guy on March 21, 2010, 10:24:01 PM
Did diddies woods get on 2day??
Title: Re: Muineachán V Doire, Scotstown, 21 March 2010
Post by: Jimmy14 on March 22, 2010, 08:50:35 AM
Monaghan now have 2 forwards..........