Must say I m really looking forward to this Championship. Any thoughts?
Connacht U21 Championship 2010
10 March Leitrim v Mayo (QF) – Wed evening match under lights in Cloone
17 March Galway v Sligo (SF)
17 March Leitrim or Mayo v Roscommon
3-6 Apr (tbc) Connacht Final
All Ireland U21 Championship
17 April Semi-Finals – Connacht v Leinster, Ulster v Munster
1 May All Ireland U21 Final
You'd have to think that off the back of our last two minor teams, we'd have a more than decent outfit here. But I haven't seen too many bad underage Roscommon teams in recent years and I think I'm right in saying Galway were All Ireland Minor Champions three years ago. So it has the makings of an excellent Championship.
Have we had much of a build up to this at all? We're not involved in the Hastings Cup any more which is a pity as it used to be a great warm up competition.
Why is our game against Galway in Carrick?
I wondered when I saw Carrick and then I have thought about asking the question but it suits us I reckon so im going to just roll with it.
For the second year running we have to go in cold against Mayowestros and them already having a Champ. game under their belts.
So another early exit beckons for us in a year in which we badly need a Connacht U21.
We have a good manager this year but I suspect our team wont be as good as the 2 previous years when they were sort of managed by a management team picked by Co Board politics >:(
Still it'll be something to do on the National Holiday instead of staring at the telly all afternoon.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 23, 2010, 09:20:23 PM
For the second year running we have to go in cold against Mayowestros and them already having a Champ. game under their belts.
So another early exit beckons for us in a year in which we badly need a Connacht U21.
We have a good manager this year but I suspect our team wont be as good as the 2 previous years when they were sort of managed by a management team picked by Co Board politics >:(
Still it'll be something to do on the National Holiday instead of interfering with sheep all afternoon.
Fixed that for ya
You're so unfunny you will be RTE's next big comedy hit ya rhubarb ******* ya.
Anyway at least we have grass that can feed sheep not the scrub that peeks out of the ground over your way :P
Quote from: Rossfan on February 23, 2010, 09:41:41 PM
You're so unfunny you will be RTE's next big comedy hit ya rhubarb ******* ya.
Anyway at least we have grass that can feed sheep not the scrub that peeks out of the ground over your way :P
Grass? Thats what you're boasting about....Grass! :D :D :D
Maybe we can mention something about the football. Mayo played a good challenge against Cork yesterday. A draw game which isn't a bad run out at all. As some of us predicted McLaughlin is filling the no.11 shirt at this level. It ll be a savage looking forward line - on paper at least. Mclaughlin, O Sé, Doherty, Douglas, Freemanx2 maybe, Geraghty all in contention for places and god knows who else I m forgetting about.
Scary !!!!
Hennelly
E O Reilly K Keane M Walsh
S Mchale/Charlton L Keegan S Nally
J gibbons G McDonagh/J Cafferty
Cathal Freeman/G mcDonagh K McLoughlin Alan Freeman
N Douglas Aidan O'Se J Doherty
it's a shame I'm gonna be out of the country to miss these games :( because for the few last years under 21football has been the best quality & excitement of all the Grades & it's been well documented how the Rossies have not got the rub of the green at this Grade in recent years
Maybe that will change this year?
Starting mid March & all over by 1st May short & sweet championship as ever ::)
Seen as it's the only All-Ireland win Mayo have won in my lifetime, I will always have a fondness for the U-21 championship. That looks a good team out there by Foreverhopeful. Hopefully Ray Dempsey will give the lads some steel as well, seen as he knows them from minor level. Aiden O'Shea would need to punch his weight around in the full-forward position because he's been sluggish enough in the 2 games in the league.
Quote from: Foreverhopeful on February 24, 2010, 12:33:07 AM
Hennelly
E O Reilly K Keane M Walsh
S Mchale/Charlton L Keegan S Nally
J gibbons G McDonagh/J Cafferty
Cathal Freeman/G mcDonagh K McLoughlin Alan Freeman
N Douglas Aidan O'Se J Doherty
SERIOUS team... if half those lads make it through to Senior we could have a fine team and panel in a couple of years at senior level.
Comparing it to the 2006 team, (current Mayo Senior players in bold)
K O'Malley; T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins (capt); C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle;
S O'Shea, B Moran; A Campbell, J Dillon,
A Kilcoyne; M Ronaldson, M Hannick, M Conroy
You could also throw Enda Varley into that list Abbeysider he came on the final as far as I can remember and Alan Feeney was a sub on that u21 side too
Quote from: westmayo on February 25, 2010, 01:52:31 PM
You could also throw Enda Varley into that list Abbeysider he came on the final as far as I can remember and Alan Feeney was a sub on that u21 side too
Good call, subs used in 2006 Final:
S Ryan for Boyle (half time),
K Costello for Dillon,
E Varley for Hannick (both 40 mins)
Quote from: AbbeySider on February 25, 2010, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: Foreverhopeful on February 24, 2010, 12:33:07 AM
Hennelly
E O Reilly K Keane M Walsh
S Mchale/Charlton L Keegan S Nally
J gibbons G McDonagh/J Cafferty
Cathal Freeman/G mcDonagh K McLoughlin Alan Freeman
N Douglas Aidan O'Se J Doherty
SERIOUS team... if half those lads make it through to Senior we could have a fine team and panel in a couple of years at senior level.
Comparing it to the 2006 team, (current Mayo Senior players in bold)
K O'Malley;
T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins (capt);
C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle;
S O'Shea, B Moran;
A Campbell, J Dillon, A Kilcoyne;
M Ronaldson, M Hannick, M Conroy
But how many of those will really make it as Top Senior players?
You only have to look at Galway & their underage players (apart from meehan) still haven't proven their worth at senior level
4 or 5 should make it which would be a great return.
Cunniffe is a current is injured senior player. Boyle played senior last year against Sligeach, if I am not mistaking.
Conroy was one of the best forward prospects for some time and played in an AI final in 2004. Campbell also appeared to have made the cut and may yet come back into things. A player of quality.
I don't rate Barrett too highly, maybe that's because he never get's much of a chance but if he was good enough he would.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 25, 2010, 10:34:12 PM
I don't rate Barrett too highly, maybe that's because he never get's much of a chance but if he was good enough he would.
i dpmt hold with that argument , Remember were talking about Jom here the man who needed a trial game to see if Ciaran Mc Donald coujld play football.
even if it were not him any manager is going to be right about some player and wrong about others look how long was wasted grooming Austin(what is the story there this year?) while others might point to K oneill missing years for mayo , though it wasa lot more complicated than peopole give maughan credit for.
I think campbell the kilcullens sean grimes Stephen drake are all top quality player not on the mayo panel even for non footballing reasons
Quote from: rosnarun on February 26, 2010, 12:58:27 AM
while others might point to K oneill missing years for mayo , though it wasa lot more complicated than peopole give maughan credit for.
Whatever about the rest of your post - the situation with O'Neill wasn't overly complicated, Maughan didn't like him so Kevin didn't play. When DB lost favour with Maughan that was the end of him and when Maughan was forced to bring him back in he dropped him first chance.
You might be correct about current players not playing for non footballing reasons, you might be wrong but less of the revisonism about your own clubs man, those that didn't get a look in his day were for non footballing reasons too
Quote from: moysider on February 25, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
Conroy was one of the best forward prospects for some time and played in an AI final in 2004. Campbell also appeared to have made the cut and may yet come back into things. A player of quality.
Michael Conroy is currently in Oz if im not mistaken. I always liked him, thought he was a decent player.
Campbell is supposed to be playing great stuff for GMIT in the Sigerson this year, but I doubt he will ever be involved under JOM.
Quote from: muppet on February 25, 2010, 10:04:57 PM
Cunniffe is a current is injured senior player. Boyle played senior last year against Sligeach, if I am not mistaking.
Is Cunniffe in college in Liverpool?
Just goes to show what it takes for Mayo to win an All-Ireland, in hindsight that must be one of the best under-21 teams ever produced (I think it will look even better in a few years time) and even still we were hanging on at the end down in Ennis. When you consider that Varley was a sub and I think Barry Kelly opted off the panel that year for personal reasons, the 15 below - All Mayo under-21 eigible that year would probably today beat all bar the top 6 or 7 senior teams in the country.
K O'Malley;
T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins;
C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle;
S O'Shea, B Moran;
A Campbell, B Kelly, A Kilcoyne;
M Ronaldson, E Varley, M Conroy.
They were actually two very teams in 2006
QuoteCORK: K O'Halloran; R Carey, C Murphy, S O'Donoghue; D Limerick, M Shields, E Cadogan; A O'Connor, P Kelly; F Gould, C Keane, P Kerrigan (capt); D Goulding, P O'Flynn, J Hayes.
Subs used: G O'Shea for Hayes (44 mins), F Lynch for Kelly (52)
MAYO: K O'Malley; T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins (capt); C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle; S O'Shea, B Moran; A Campbell, J Dillon, A Kilcoyne; M Ronaldson, M Hannick, M Conroy.
Subs used: S Ryan for Boyle (half time), K Costello for Dillon, E Varley for Hannick (both 40 mins)
Yellow cards: Kilcoyne (Mayo) (14 mins), Gould (Cork) (26), Higgins (Mayo) (28), O'Donoghue (Cork) (32), Conroy (Mayo) (60+2); Red card: O'Donoghue (41)
5 of the Mayo lads were only 18/19 at the time and we probably should have done a bit more at this level over the past two years. I think the 2007 team was a better team but we blew it against Laois.
This year I think we have a good team as well. However the heavier pitches is a great leveller and different counties put different emphasis on the competition. Hopefully we give it a right good rattle because it could be a classy Connacht championship.
There is no doubt Mayo have an excellent set-up, and have been unlucky i would say since winning in 06, really could have beaten Kerry in 08, but i'd be careful of Roscommon. They just lost to Westmeath in a challenge a few weeks back, and i know its only early but they were missing a good few, and Westmeath showed their no mugs beating a fancied Kildare outfit last week.
So the Rossies took a 22 point beating off Tyrone in a challenge over the weekend. Don't know how much you can read into that (Don't have any team info etc), but maybe the Connacht U-21 Championship isn't as strong as we thought.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 28, 2010, 01:19:42 PM
Just goes to show what it takes for Mayo to win an All-Ireland, in hindsight that must be one of the best under-21 teams ever produced (I think it will look even better in a few years time) and even still we were hanging on at the end down in Ennis. When you consider that Varley was a sub and I think Barry Kelly opted off the panel that year for personal reasons, the 15 below - All Mayo under-21 eigible that year would probably today beat all bar the top 6 or 7 senior teams in the country.
K O'Malley;
T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins;
C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle;
S O'Shea, B Moran;
A Campbell, B Kelly, A Kilcoyne;
M Ronaldson, E Varley, M Conroy.
No offence but that team would probably be doing well to beat the bottom 5 or 6 senior teams in the country, and that was a serious Cork team too so it was no surprise it was a close game. There are some fine players on that squad but to suggest one U21 squad would be in the top ten teams in the country 4 years later is complete nonsense.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 01, 2010, 06:43:35 PM
So the Rossies took a 22 point beating off Tyrone in a challenge over the weekend. Don't know how much you can read into that (Don't have any team info etc), but maybe the Connacht U-21 Championship isn't as strong as we thought.
yup heard about that result but will most of the roscommon panel involved in sigerson duty it was sure to be a makeshift team,
but tells us more about Tyrone than the connacht Championship they will take some beating
Didnt Galway win the All Irel Minor in 07 beating Derry? So maybe Tyrone arent that hot after all.
Anyway we have to be roaring outsiders now. :)
And sure poor oul Mayo haven't won a minor since 1985. Christ, Ros to be overwhelming favourites to reach Connacht final at least!!!
Ahh but at U 21 ye're wiping the floor with the rest of us.
What are we doing wrong and what are ye doing right between 18 and 21?
Mayo to walk Connacht U 21 again 8)
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 01, 2010, 09:34:16 PM
And sure poor oul Mayo haven't won a minor since 1985. Christ, Ros to be overwhelming favourites to reach Connacht final at least!!!
when Mayo hammer leitrim i think the rossies will be so scared of the mayo boys them may even forfeit the game ;)
it's Mayo all the Way for me too 8)
So Galway are playing Sligo at 2.30 on St. Patrick's Day, the same time as Portumna are playing in Croke Park, great planning altogether. :-\
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 01, 2010, 10:32:49 PM
So Galway are playing Sligo at 2.30 on St. Patrick's Day, the same time as Portumna are playing in Croke Park, great planning altogether. :-\
Didn't ye get a new motorway?
Some association alright. Jesus like whats the harm in having the U-21 game in the morning or even the night before. I know i'm not really a hurling man, but even i will be glued to the Portumna Ballyhale game.
Why does the Connacht Council have these games on St. Patrick's Day anyway? Is it not meant to be a dedicated Club day?
None of the other three provincial councils have their U21 games on that day!
Quote from: western exile on March 01, 2010, 11:27:11 PM
Why does the Connacht Council have these games on St. Patrick's Day anyway? Is it not meant to be a dedicated Club day?
None of the other three provincial councils have their U21 games on that day!
John decrees that it is that way. You have a problem with that?
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 01, 2010, 06:43:35 PM
So the Rossies took a 22 point beating off Tyrone in a challenge over the weekend. Don't know how much you can read into that (Don't have any team info etc), but maybe the Connacht U-21 Championship isn't as strong as we thought.
Not sure about the strength of the Con. championship either. Tyrone are bound to be good. Thought Galway won a softish one in 07 but the 08 minor champions were one of the great Minor teams.
Mayo, as has been pointed out already, have a lot of good players. On paper at least. If Dempsey is true to form, he wont indulge the 'good on paper' stuff and we wont end up with the embarrassing fiasco that was Down last year. While we had enough talent and good fortune last year to stumble over the line in Connacht, when we came across a team with talent and a proper coach, we were chasing shadows.
Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2010, 11:40:58 PM
Quote from: western exile on March 01, 2010, 11:27:11 PM
Why does the Connacht Council have these games on St. Patrick's Day anyway? Is it not meant to be a dedicated Club day?
None of the other three provincial councils have their U21 games on that day!
John decrees that it is that way. You have a problem with that?
I had better watch my step around Ballyhaunis after daring to ask that question ::)
Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2010, 11:55:15 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 01, 2010, 06:43:35 PM
So the Rossies took a 22 point beating off Tyrone in a challenge over the weekend. Don't know how much you can read into that (Don't have any team info etc), but maybe the Connacht U-21 Championship isn't as strong as we thought.
Thought Galway won a softish one in 07 but the 08 minor champions were one of the great Minor teams.
You don't say. I'm shocked.
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 01, 2010, 10:32:49 PM
So Galway are playing Sligo at 2.30 on St. Patrick's Day, the same time as Portumna are playing in Croke Park, great planning altogether. :-\
Which one will you be watching DE?
Not sure yet, going to wait and see what the weather's like first! Probably watch the hurling though.
Why is the Sligo v. Galway match in Carrick does anyone know? Handier than having to travel to Tuam or worse still Salt bloody hill but unusual to have it at a neutral venue. Surely a mistake?
That's a mistake Seanie, it's in Tuam at half 2 on St. Patrick's Day.
Ah well one things for sure, our record there can't disimprove!
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 02, 2010, 03:15:04 PM
Not sure yet, going to wait and see what the weather's like first! Probably watch the hurling though.
Typical Galway football fan reply! ;)
Quote from: Zulu on March 01, 2010, 07:24:42 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 28, 2010, 01:19:42 PM
Just goes to show what it takes for Mayo to win an All-Ireland, in hindsight that must be one of the best under-21 teams ever produced (I think it will look even better in a few years time) and even still we were hanging on at the end down in Ennis. When you consider that Varley was a sub and I think Barry Kelly opted off the panel that year for personal reasons, the 15 below - All Mayo under-21 eigible that year would probably today beat all bar the top 6 or 7 senior teams in the country.
K O'Malley;
T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins;
C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle;
S O'Shea, B Moran;
A Campbell, B Kelly, A Kilcoyne;
M Ronaldson, E Varley, M Conroy.
No offence but that team would probably be doing well to beat the bottom 5 or 6 senior teams in the country, and that was a serious Cork team too so it was no surprise it was a close game. There are some fine players on that squad but to suggest one U21 squad would be in the top ten teams in the country 4 years later is complete nonsense.
Couldn't agree with you there, all 15 have played inter county for Mayo, that alone in my view makes them better than many of the teams around (I know that sounds arrogant, but there is a huge standard gap between the better and poorer teams, and all of the above would walk onto plenty of inter county teams today.) On reflection, I'll revise my earlier statement to the top 12 teams, but beyond that we'll have to agree to differ!
For example I honestly believe that team could take care of the likes of Laois, Tipp and Westmeath - all Div 2 sides.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2010, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 02, 2010, 03:15:04 PM
Not sure yet, going to wait and see what the weather's like first! Probably watch the hurling though.
Typical Galway football fan reply! ;)
Oh that's very mean! :-[
Mayo U21 side named
Mayo's Ray Dempsey
08 March 2010
Ray Dempsey has announced the Mayo side to face Leitrim in the Cadbury Connacht U21FC on Wednesday evening.
Mayo (U21FC v Leitrim) - Robert Hennelly, Pat Mulchrone, Shane McHale, Kevin Keane, Lee Keegan, Eoghan Reilly, Sean Prendergast, Ger McDonagh, Shane Nally, Cathal Carolan, Kevin McLoughlin, Jason Doherty, Neill Douglas, Aidan O'Shea, Alan Freeman.
Subs - Conor Campbell, Keith Rogers, David Gavin, Danny Geraghty, Peter Cosgrove, Niall Prenty, Michael Gallagher, Sean Cafferkey, Sean Morris, Danny Kirby, Jason Gibbons, Donal Newcombe, Aidan Walsh, Andrew Farrell, Michael Walsh.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 02, 2010, 06:06:54 PM
Quote from: Zulu on March 01, 2010, 07:24:42 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 28, 2010, 01:19:42 PM
Just goes to show what it takes for Mayo to win an All-Ireland, in hindsight that must be one of the best under-21 teams ever produced (I think it will look even better in a few years time) and even still we were hanging on at the end down in Ennis. When you consider that Varley was a sub and I think Barry Kelly opted off the panel that year for personal reasons, the 15 below - All Mayo under-21 eigible that year would probably today beat all bar the top 6 or 7 senior teams in the country.
K O'Malley;
T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins;
C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle;
S O'Shea, B Moran;
A Campbell, B Kelly, A Kilcoyne;
M Ronaldson, E Varley, M Conroy.
No offence but that team would probably be doing well to beat the bottom 5 or 6 senior teams in the country, and that was a serious Cork team too so it was no surprise it was a close game. There are some fine players on that squad but to suggest one U21 squad would be in the top ten teams in the country 4 years later is complete nonsense.
Couldn't agree with you there, all 15 have played inter county for Mayo, that alone in my view makes them better than many of the teams around (I know that sounds arrogant, but there is a huge standard gap between the better and poorer teams, and all of the above would walk onto plenty of inter county teams today.) On reflection, I'll revise my earlier statement to the top 12 teams, but beyond that we'll have to agree to differ!
For example I honestly believe that team could take care of the likes of Laois, Tipp and Westmeath - all Div 2 sides.
eh cavan lost to your U21's by a point or 2 in a challenge match a couple of weeks ago.now i know it wouldnt of been a very strong mayo team,and wasnt an overly strong cavan side,but only one of our U21's is on the senior panel.so our team of players who cant make a team thats heading for Div4,are around the same level as you team of players who can beat some of the weaker teams in Div2.i still think your being a bit optimistic.
Quote from: Dougal on March 08, 2010, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 02, 2010, 06:06:54 PM
Quote from: Zulu on March 01, 2010, 07:24:42 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 28, 2010, 01:19:42 PM
Just goes to show what it takes for Mayo to win an All-Ireland, in hindsight that must be one of the best under-21 teams ever produced (I think it will look even better in a few years time) and even still we were hanging on at the end down in Ennis. When you consider that Varley was a sub and I think Barry Kelly opted off the panel that year for personal reasons, the 15 below - All Mayo under-21 eigible that year would probably today beat all bar the top 6 or 7 senior teams in the country.
K O'Malley;
T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins;
C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle;
S O'Shea, B Moran;
A Campbell, B Kelly, A Kilcoyne;
M Ronaldson, E Varley, M Conroy.
No offence but that team would probably be doing well to beat the bottom 5 or 6 senior teams in the country, and that was a serious Cork team too so it was no surprise it was a close game. There are some fine players on that squad but to suggest one U21 squad would be in the top ten teams in the country 4 years later is complete nonsense.
Couldn't agree with you there, all 15 have played inter county for Mayo, that alone in my view makes them better than many of the teams around (I know that sounds arrogant, but there is a huge standard gap between the better and poorer teams, and all of the above would walk onto plenty of inter county teams today.) On reflection, I'll revise my earlier statement to the top 12 teams, but beyond that we'll have to agree to differ!
For example I honestly believe that team could take care of the likes of Laois, Tipp and Westmeath - all Div 2 sides.
eh cavan lost to your U21's by a point or 2 in a challenge match a couple of weeks ago.now i know it wouldnt of been a very strong mayo team,and wasnt an overly strong cavan side,but only one of our U21's is on the senior panel.so our team of players who cant make a team thats heading for Div4,are around the same level as you team of players who can beat some of the weaker teams in Div2.i still think your being a bit optimistic.
Read it again Dougal. He is talking about the U-21 that won the All Ireland in 2006.
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 08, 2010, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 02, 2010, 06:06:54 PM
Quote from: Zulu on March 01, 2010, 07:24:42 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 28, 2010, 01:19:42 PM
Just goes to show what it takes for Mayo to win an All-Ireland, in hindsight that must be one of the best under-21 teams ever produced (I think it will look even better in a few years time) and even still we were hanging on at the end down in Ennis. When you consider that Varley was a sub and I think Barry Kelly opted off the panel that year for personal reasons, the 15 below - All Mayo under-21 eigible that year would probably today beat all bar the top 6 or 7 senior teams in the country.
K O'Malley;
T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins;
C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle;
S O'Shea, B Moran;
A Campbell, B Kelly, A Kilcoyne;
M Ronaldson, E Varley, M Conroy.
No offence but that team would probably be doing well to beat the bottom 5 or 6 senior teams in the country, and that was a serious Cork team too so it was no surprise it was a close game. There are some fine players on that squad but to suggest one U21 squad would be in the top ten teams in the country 4 years later is complete nonsense.
Couldn't agree with you there, all 15 have played inter county for Mayo, that alone in my view makes them better than many of the teams around (I know that sounds arrogant, but there is a huge standard gap between the better and poorer teams, and all of the above would walk onto plenty of inter county teams today.) On reflection, I'll revise my earlier statement to the top 12 teams, but beyond that we'll have to agree to differ!
For example I honestly believe that team could take care of the likes of Laois, Tipp and Westmeath - all Div 2 sides.
eh cavan lost to your U21's by a point or 2 in a challenge match a couple of weeks ago.now i know it wouldnt of been a very strong mayo team,and wasnt an overly strong cavan side,but only one of our U21's is on the senior panel.so our team of players who cant make a team thats heading for Div4,are around the same level as you team of players who can beat some of the weaker teams in Div2.i still think your being a bit optimistic.
Read it again Dougal. He is talking about the U-21 that won the All Ireland in 2006.
sorry,in that case i have no idea,but if thats the case,fair play.
what time is throw in for the Leitrim v Mayo game?
Quote from: ross4life on March 09, 2010, 12:20:39 AM
what time is throw in for the Leitrim v Mayo game?
7.30pm which is something I neglected in this preview
http://thereisalightthatnevergoesout.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/under-21s-start-the-drive-for-five/
Thanks for keeping me on my toes!
I am delighted personally that Shane McHale is starting. One thing is for sure is that he will give it 100% and that he is not afraid of the full-back position if you know what I mean. Interesting to see how Keane and Keegan will do down the flanks, if for example Keane isn't doing the business at cornerback, then McHale would be well able to cover. Good luck to Kevin McLoughlin who captains the team and his new intercounty role at no 11. I won't make it to Cloone, but we should win it and I will be able to go the following Wednesday with the help of God.
Quote from: moysider on March 08, 2010, 10:34:55 PM
Mayo U21 side named
Mayo's Ray Dempsey
08 March 2010
Ray Dempsey has announced the Mayo side to face Leitrim in the Cadbury Connacht U21FC on Wednesday evening.
Mayo (U21FC v Leitrim) - Robert Hennelly, Pat Mulchrone, Shane McHale, Kevin Keane, Lee Keegan, Eoghan Reilly, Sean Prendergast, Ger McDonagh, Shane Nally, Cathal Carolan, Kevin McLoughlin, Jason Doherty, Neill Douglas, Aidan O'Shea, Alan Freeman.
Subs - Conor Campbell, Keith Rogers, David Gavin, Danny Geraghty, Peter Cosgrove, Niall Prenty, Michael Gallagher, Sean Cafferkey, Sean Morris, Danny Kirby, Jason Gibbons, Donal Newcombe, Aidan Walsh, Andrew Farrell, Michael Walsh.
Im 99% sure that there is a mistake there.
I think the subs should read RAY Geraghty, not Danny Geraghty.
Danny is Rays younger brother and is still a minor, and is involved with Mayo minors this year.
Ray is on the U21 panel as I understood it.
Quote from: AbbeySider on March 09, 2010, 09:37:24 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 08, 2010, 10:34:55 PM
Mayo U21 side named
Mayo's Ray Dempsey
08 March 2010
Ray Dempsey has announced the Mayo side to face Leitrim in the Cadbury Connacht U21FC on Wednesday evening.
Mayo (U21FC v Leitrim) - Robert Hennelly, Pat Mulchrone, Shane McHale, Kevin Keane, Lee Keegan, Eoghan Reilly, Sean Prendergast, Ger McDonagh, Shane Nally, Cathal Carolan, Kevin McLoughlin, Jason Doherty, Neill Douglas, Aidan O'Shea, Alan Freeman.
Subs - Conor Campbell, Keith Rogers, David Gavin, Danny Geraghty, Peter Cosgrove, Niall Prenty, Michael Gallagher, Sean Cafferkey, Sean Morris, Danny Kirby, Jason Gibbons, Donal Newcombe, Aidan Walsh, Andrew Farrell, Michael Walsh.
Im 99% sure that there is a mistake there.
I think the subs should read RAY Geraghty, not Danny Geraghty.
Danny is Rays younger brother and is still a minor, and is involved with Mayo minors this year.
Ray is on the U21 panel as I understood it.
Yeah, it definitely should be Ray, not Danny.
A few surprises (to me anyway) on the team. Keane in the corner rather than FB, Nally at MF, Gibbons not starting.
But it's a strong team, and will surely have too much for Leitrim. Pity Paddy's Day is mid-week, I won't make it down for the Ros game.
Nally is a shock, i wouldn have thought he was that standard midfielder
Best of luck to the 3 knockmore lads, good sign for the rest of the year
Quote from: Tubberman on March 09, 2010, 10:18:24 AM
Quote from: AbbeySider on March 09, 2010, 09:37:24 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 08, 2010, 10:34:55 PM
Mayo U21 side named
Mayo's Ray Dempsey
08 March 2010
Ray Dempsey has announced the Mayo side to face Leitrim in the Cadbury Connacht U21FC on Wednesday evening.
Mayo (U21FC v Leitrim) - Robert Hennelly, Pat Mulchrone, Shane McHale, Kevin Keane, Lee Keegan, Eoghan Reilly, Sean Prendergast, Ger McDonagh, Shane Nally, Cathal Carolan, Kevin McLoughlin, Jason Doherty, Neill Douglas, Aidan O'Shea, Alan Freeman.
Subs - Conor Campbell, Keith Rogers, David Gavin, Danny Geraghty, Peter Cosgrove, Niall Prenty, Michael Gallagher, Sean Cafferkey, Sean Morris, Danny Kirby, Jason Gibbons, Donal Newcombe, Aidan Walsh, Andrew Farrell, Michael Walsh.
Im 99% sure that there is a mistake there.
I think the subs should read RAY Geraghty, not Danny Geraghty.
Danny is Rays younger brother and is still a minor, and is involved with Mayo minors this year.
Ray is on the U21 panel as I understood it.
Yeah, it definitely should be Ray, not Danny.
A few surprises (to me anyway) on the team. Keane in the corner rather than FB, Nally at MF, Gibbons not starting.
But it's a strong team, and will surely have too much for Leitrim. Pity Paddy's Day is mid-week, I won't make it down for the Ros game.
Indeed there a few eyebrow raisers. As well as what you said I would have thought that Kirby would be there ahead of McDonnagh, he could be a year younger though. I was surprised myself that Jason Gibbons isnt starting but we dont know how training is going.
IMO the full back-line is kind of weak but I could be proven wrong.
Isn't Kirby still a minor this year?
Quote from: Chimley on March 09, 2010, 11:58:47 AM
Isn't Kirby still a minor this year?
He played club U21 last year. If he is still a minor this year that would mean he was playing mid-field at U21 club level at 17.
Its possible I suppose.
I don't know how reliable the dates are in this link. It looks like he just makes the cut and Andrew Farrell just misses out.
http://www.clubmayo.ie/331.php
Quote from: Chimley on March 09, 2010, 02:11:18 PM
I don't know how reliable the dates are in this link. It looks like he just makes the cut and Andrew Farrell just misses out.
http://www.clubmayo.ie/331.php
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kirby is minor again this year. I remember last year thinking we should be pretty strong again with the likes of Kirby and Cillian O'Connor underage this year.
Quote from: Tubberman on March 09, 2010, 02:13:48 PM
Quote from: Chimley on March 09, 2010, 02:11:18 PM
I don't know how reliable the dates are in this link. It looks like he just makes the cut and Andrew Farrell just misses out.
http://www.clubmayo.ie/331.php
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kirby is minor again this year. I remember last year thinking we should be pretty strong again with the likes of Kirby and Cillian O'Connor underage this year.
Yes he is minor again this year.
Quote from: Chimley on March 09, 2010, 02:11:18 PM
I don't know how reliable the dates are in this link. It looks like he just makes the cut and Andrew Farrell just misses out.
http://www.clubmayo.ie/331.php
I read somewhere recently that people born in the second half of the year are disadvantaged in sports because of the use of January 01 in so many underage games. Those born closer to the date tend to have an advantage when younger and thus they make more teams and develop quicker.
Looking at those stats only 9 of the 30 are born in the second half of the year. It should be closer to 15 on the law of averages. It would be interesting to see the stats for other teams and for other years.
My dad was born on Christmas day. He told me he used always curse his luck because he would be 20 for the last year of U-21 football. If he was born a week later he could have a full year at U-21, being 21. Funny too.
Quote from: muppet on March 09, 2010, 03:02:52 PM
Quote from: Chimley on March 09, 2010, 02:11:18 PM
I don't know how reliable the dates are in this link. It looks like he just makes the cut and Andrew Farrell just misses out.
http://www.clubmayo.ie/331.php
I read somewhere recently that people born in the second half of the year are disadvantaged in sports because of the use of January 01 in so many underage games. Those born closer to the date tend to have an advantage when younger and thus they make more teams and develop quicker.
Looking at those stats only 9 of the 30 are born in the second half of the year. It should be closer to 15 on the law of averages. It would be interesting to see the stats for other teams and for other years.
Interesting Stats.
I know someone playing for our club that was born just before mid-night on new years eve.
Its totally tragic that he misses out through football but you would think his parents would have the presence of mind to say he was born on the first of January. ::)
I believe that some years back it was nigh on impossible to find a male birth certificate in Kerry dated in November or December.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 09, 2010, 03:04:35 PM
My dad was born on Christmas day. He told me he used always curse his luck because he would be 20 for the last year of U-21 football. If he was born a week later he could have a full year at U-21, being 21. Funny too.
Fair play to your father. He must be a rarity - a Knockmore man that played at the age group he meant to play at!
Danny Kirby and Cillian O'Connor are both minor this year. Kirby is in with the Under 21s but I would say he's not on the team for Wednesday because he's playing with St Gerald's in the Connacht Colleges final on Saturday. Abbeysider is right, unusual for a lad only in his first year minor to play midfield with club Under 21 but Kirby is a serious size of a young fella and even started in senior championship for Mitchels last year.
Galway Sligo match has been pushed back to 4 o'clock on Patrick's Day to give supporters the chance to watch the Portumna match.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on March 09, 2010, 03:25:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 09, 2010, 03:04:35 PM
My dad was born on Christmas day. He told me he used always curse his luck because he would be 20 for the last year of U-21 football. If he was born a week later he could have a full year at U-21, being 21. Funny too.
Fair play to your father. He must be a rarity - a Knockmore man that played at the age group he meant to play at!
Danny Kirby and Cillian O'Connor are both minor this year. Kirby is in with the Under 21s but I would say he's not on the team for Wednesday because he's playing with St Gerald's in the Connacht Colleges final on Saturday. Abbeysider is right, unusual for a lad only in his first year minor to play midfield with club Under 21 but Kirby is a serious size of a young fella and even started in senior championship for Mitchels last year.
Declan Sweeney made his senior debut at 16 at midfield in an All Ireland Semi final for Knockmore
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 09, 2010, 04:11:54 PM
Galway Sligo match has been pushed back to 4 o'clock on Patrick's Day to give supporters the chance to watch the Portumna match.
We in Sligo would probably be more interested in the Kilmurray v Galls match. Its a joke anyway having these games on Paddys day. I think this is one of the few games in my time of supporting Sligo that I'll probably go to expecting to lose but we did beat Galway twice at u21 level in the last decade so hears hoping.
Gaa Fixtures – Live scores, Fixtures & Results – Tuesday 9th & Wednesday 10th March 2010
Wednesday 10 March
Cadbury Connacht U21FC semi-final
Leitrim v Mayo, Cloone, TBC
Mayo team to play Leitrim (U21 Match Wednesday 10th March)
1 Robert Hennelly 2 Pat Mulchrone 3 Shane McHale
4 Kevin Keane 5 Lee Keegan 6 Eoghan Reilly
7 Sean Prendergast 8 Ger McDonagh 9 Shane Nally
8 Ger McDonagh 9 Shane Nally
10 Cathal Carolan 11 Kevin McLoughlin (Cap) 12 Jason Doherty
13 Neill Douglas 14 Aidan OShea 15 Alan Freeman
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/03/09/gaa-fixtures-live-scores-results-9th-10-march-2010/
I don't like to get too far ahead of myself, but IF Mayo beat Leitrim (and they should too) where will the game against Roscommon be?
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 09, 2010, 05:13:51 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 09, 2010, 04:11:54 PM
Galway Sligo match has been pushed back to 4 o'clock on Patrick's Day to give supporters the chance to watch the Portumna match.
We in Sligo would probably be more interested in the Kilmurray v Galls match. Its a joke anyway having these games on Paddys day. I think this is one of the few games in my time of supporting Sligo that I'll probably go to expecting to lose but we did beat Galway twice at u21 level in the last decade so hears hoping.
What we'd be interested in or want doesn't really matter with the people making this fixture.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 09, 2010, 08:34:59 PM
I don't like to get too far ahead of myself, but IF Mayo beat Leitrim (and they should too) where will the game against Roscommon be?
I'd imagine that it should be at a Roscommon venue, because didn't Mayo beat Ros in that thriller in Charlestown last year.
4pm Hyde park on the 17th march i believe, you guys also beat us in a thriller in kiltoom & it's about time we won one don't you think?
id nearly pop over to the mayo match if they were playing better opposition(already saw leitrim once this year and wouldnt fancy going to see them again),id imagine they have a very strong team.
well we played leitrim in the hastings cup in late jan & beat them 0-13 to 0-5 not sure can you read into that?
Quote from: ross4life on March 09, 2010, 10:52:05 PM
well we played leitrim in the hastings cup in late jan & beat them 0-13 to 0-5 not sure can you read into that?
well we beat them by 19,a got beat by ye lot and mayo in a challenge,i wouldnt hold up much hope for leitrim.
Many going to Cloone? Looks like quite the trip. Any Laytrims here to give best directions from Carrick to Cloone?
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on March 10, 2010, 12:55:17 PM
Many going to Cloone? Looks like quite the trip. Any Laytrims here to give best directions from Carrick to Cloone?
The Mayo News has these directions:
Cloone directions
MEANWHILE, Mayo supporters wondering how to get to Cloone should heed this advice from Connacht GAA Council Secretary, John Prenty. "Go to Carrick-on-Shannon and then head out the Dublin road to Mohill. Go left at the bottom of the town in Mohill and you go straight into Cloone."
Don't suppose mid-west will be giving live commentary? Won't make it to Cloone but think I'll head down to Ros from Dub on Paddy's Day (assuming we win tonight). The match against Ros last year was one of the craziest matches I was ever at. If it's half as entertaining this year, it'll be well worth the trip.
Never know what to do with myself on Paddy's Day anyway - the pubs are a mess, so delighted this match is on.
Quote from: ross4life on March 09, 2010, 09:04:15 PM
4pm Hyde park on the 17th march i believe, you guys also beat us in a thriller in kiltoom & it's about time we won one don't you think?
Where did you hear this ross?
I was just reading a preview of the Leitrim match in The Western People and it's saying the winner of Leitrim v Mayo will have home advantage v the Rossies:
"The winners of tomorrow night's game will have home advantage for the semi-final clash with Roscommon on St Patrick's Day."
Everyone I met says it's in the Hyde 4 or 4.30 on the National feast day.
We went to Castlebar( that ******** Maughtan put a load of the 06 Minors in against ye and they got ate) in 07, Kiltoom in 08, Charlestown 09 so it's obviously has to be the Hyde this year --- that is if it's Mayowestros we are playing of course ;).
Unfortunately it will be :-\
Mike Finnerty gave a half-time report on Mid-West. This is the jist of what I heard:
HT Leitrim 0-5 Mayo 0-7
8-1 in the wides count in Mayo's favour, so the accuracy hasn't improved from Sunday's senior match.
Leitrim went 2 points to no score up. Neil Douglas got Mayo's first. Shane Nally and Aidan O'Shea have got 2 each, and Alan Freeman scored one as well. Not sure who got the other point.
He said it took O'Shea a long time to get into it but his second point was the score of the match and he was clenching the fist after it, so hopefully he's finding some confidence.
Kevin Keane didn't start due to a family bereavement - Michael Gallagher from Achill started in his place.
Wednesday 10 March
Cadbury Leinster U21FC quarter-final
Carlow 0-09 0-02 Kilkenny, Portlaoise, 8.00pm
Cadbury Connacht U21FC semi-final
Leitrim 0-08 0-11 Mayo, Cloone, 7.30pm
Cadbury Munster U21FC
Limerick 0-02 0-06 Clare, Cooraclare, 7.30pm
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/03/10/gaa-fixtures-live-scores-results-9th-10-march-2010/
Only 3 in it with 7 mins left :-\
Mayo went 4 up but Leitrim came back to leave two in it and were applying a lot of pressure. Ray Geraghty has just come on and put 3 between them
mayo won by four against those jabronies ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
FT Leitrim 0-9 Mayo 0-13
Much closer than I was expecting! Alan Freeman MOTM. Freeman and Douglas 4 points each, Nally and O'Shea 2 points each, Ray Geraghty 1 point.
Mayo will be delighted to have escaped. Will need a massive improvement for the Rossies. There'll be no complacency anyway!
might be no bad thing just scraping through that. Couldn't make it unfortunately but I remember in Carrick in 06 we were no great shakes and we won the whole shootin match after. We had a midfield that year though. Now not being there its hard to say where we were poor tonight. And Mike Finnerty's report far from being forensic but he did say Leitrim owned the ball for long periods and it was backs to the wall stuff. That would seem to suggest we were taken around the middle. Its surprising and disappointing that Gibbons has not come up to scratch here. Injured? We ll have to wait for people who were there to fill us in on what went on this evening. If we're in bother in midfield, it could be an early exit regardless of the potential elsewhere?
We weren't out of it in the middle at all and Shane Nally got a couple of nice scores but Leitrim had one huge guy who was very effective. Also Leitrim worked hard and were generally tough and dogged. A lot of wides early on!
Also I thought Reilly at No.6 had a very solid game - could have been man of the match in my opinion.
Lucky to win tonight, here's a brief report
http://thereisalightthatnevergoesout.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/escape-from-cloone/
Two big games in this competition this week. Is Ros/Mayo confirmed for Wednesday afternoon in the Hyde? It's not up on Aertel or the under 21 website.
Didn't sound like Mayo were on form at all last week in Cloone. With so many players to choose from out of the last two years minors and last years under 21s, it could be difficult to find our best team. Or maybe we're just not that good at all. Either way, I'm sure the Rossies will fancy their chances against us and will be out for revenge after our somewhat lucky escape against them at this grade last year.
Any word on a Mayo team selection?
There must be a fair share of the Rossie U-21 players on their senior team.
Kevin Higgins & Donal Shine is the only players on the Senior Team
& yes it's 100% confirmed for 4pm Hyde Park March 17th
official team
1 Darren OMalley Michael Glaveys
2 Jack Sharkey Kilmore
3 Neill Collins Castlerea St Kevins
4 Michael Higgins Western Gaels
5 James Mc Keague Creggs
6 Niall Daly Padraig Pearses
7 Eamon Bannon Fuerty
8 Niall Carty Padraig Pearses
9 Kevin Higgins Western Gaels
10 Paul Garvey Kilmore
11 Cathal Shine Clann na nGael
12 Brian Murtagh St Faithleachs
13 Alan O Hara St Michaels
14 Donal Shine Clann na nGael
15 Niall Kilroy Fuerty
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 15, 2010, 10:28:45 PM
Two big games in this competition this week. Is Ros/Mayo confirmed for Wednesday afternoon in the Hyde? It's not up on Aertel or the under 21 website.
Didn't sound like Mayo were on form at all last week in Cloone. With so many players to choose from out of the last two years minors and last years under 21s, it could be difficult to find our best team. Or maybe we're just not that good at all. Either way, I'm sure the Rossies will fancy their chances against us and will be out for revenge after our somewhat lucky escape against them at this grade last year.
Any word on a Mayo team selection?
Think Kevin Keane is back in for Michael Gallagher, only change
I hate these late afternoon/early evening games, because the cows have to be milked and I feel guilty leaving my dad at home!! :-\
Mayo unchanged according to Hogan Stand.
Robert Hennelly (Breaffy)
Pat Mulchrone (Burrishoole)
Shane McHale (Knockmore)
Michael Gallagher (Achill)
Lee Keegan (Westport)
Eoghan O'Reilly (Castlebar)
Sean Prendergast (Claremorris)
Ger McDonagh (Castlebar)
Shane Nally (Garrymore)
Cathal Carolan (Crossmolina)
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
Neil Douglas (Castlebar)
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
Alan Freeman (Aghamore)
Still not convinced about the positioning of one or two of the players, impressive looking set of forwards though. I expect a close game.
Galway team to play Sligo (also at 4pm tomorrow, in Tuam)
B Power
J Duane
C Forde
K Kelly
C Doherty
D Reilly
G Sweeney
P Conroy
JJ Greaney
M Boyle
T Walsh
J O'Brien
E Monaghan
M Martin
D Cummins
9 All ireland winning minors in there.
And here's the Sligo 15:
1.Brian McGovern (Calry St.Josephs)
2.Noel Gaughan (Tourlestrane)
3.Gavin Gilsenan (St.Molaise Gaels)
4.Johnny Kelly (St.Molaise Gaels)
5.Ronan McGarigle (St.John's)
6.Barry O'Boyle (Calry St.Joseph's)
7.Keelan Cawley (Coolera Strandhill)
8.Conor Davey (Drumcliffe,Rosses Pt.)
9.Cathal Burns (St.Molaise Gaels)
10.Paul Kelly (St.Patrick's)
11.Padraig Clarke (St.Patrick's)
12.Darren Gilsenan (St.Molaise Gaels)
13.Niall Judge (Castleconnor)
14.David Maye (Curry)
15.Alan Dunne (Tourlestrane)
They appear to have a lot of players from Sligonian's club which suggests they won't be short on confidence, if nothing else.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 16, 2010, 10:58:15 AM
Mayo unchanged according to Hogan Stand.
Robert Hennelly (Breaffy)
Pat Mulchrone (Burrishoole)
Shane McHale (Knockmore)
Michael Gallagher (Achill)
Lee Keegan (Westport)
Eoghan O'Reilly (Castlebar)
Sean Prendergast (Claremorris)
Ger McDonagh (Castlebar)
Shane Nally (Garrymore)
Cathal Carolan (Crossmolina)
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
Neil Douglas (Castlebar)
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
Alan Freeman (Aghamore)
Still not convinced about the positioning of one or two of the players, impressive looking set of forwards though. I expect a close game.
So how many of those are senior player's O Shea &.............
Quote from: ross4life on March 16, 2010, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 16, 2010, 10:58:15 AM
Mayo unchanged according to Hogan Stand.
Robert Hennelly (Breaffy)
Pat Mulchrone (Burrishoole)
Shane McHale (Knockmore)
Michael Gallagher (Achill)
Lee Keegan (Westport)
Eoghan O'Reilly (Castlebar)
Sean Prendergast (Claremorris)
Ger McDonagh (Castlebar)
Shane Nally (Garrymore)
Cathal Carolan (Crossmolina)
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
Neil Douglas (Castlebar)
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
Alan Freeman (Aghamore)
Still not convinced about the positioning of one or two of the players, impressive looking set of forwards though. I expect a close game.
So how many of those are senior player's O Shea &.............
nally,mcloughlin and freeman are all on the senior panel as far as i know.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 16, 2010, 02:36:17 PM
And here's the Sligo 15:
1.Brian McGovern (Calry St.Josephs)
2.Noel Gaughan (Tourlestrane)
3.Gavin Gilsenan (St.Molaise Gaels)
4.Johnny Kelly (St.Molaise Gaels)
5.Ronan McGarigle (St.John's)
6.Barry O'Boyle (Calry St.Joseph's)
7.Keelan Cawley (Coolera Strandhill)
8.Conor Davey (Drumcliffe,Rosses Pt.)
9.Cathal Burns (St.Molaise Gaels)
10.Paul Kelly (St.Patrick's)
11.Padraig Clarke (St.Patrick's)
12.Darren Gilsenan (St.Molaise Gaels)
13.Niall Judge (Castleconnor)
14.David Maye (Curry)
15.Alan Dunne (Tourlestrane)
They appear to have a lot of players from Sligonian's club which suggests they won't be short on confidence, if nothing else.
Absolutely no fear of anyone, which is what it should be.
Galway side is named aswell.
Galway (U21FC v Sligo): B Power; J Duane, C Forde, K Kelly; C Doherty, D Reilly, G Sweeney; P Conroy, JJ Greaney; M Boyle, T Walsh, J O'Brien; E Monaghan, M Martin, D Cummins.
Quote from: Dougal on March 16, 2010, 05:28:34 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 16, 2010, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 16, 2010, 10:58:15 AM
Mayo unchanged according to Hogan Stand.
Robert Hennelly (Breaffy)
Pat Mulchrone (Burrishoole)
Shane McHale (Knockmore)
Michael Gallagher (Achill)
Lee Keegan (Westport)
Eoghan O'Reilly (Castlebar)
Sean Prendergast (Claremorris)
Ger McDonagh (Castlebar)
Shane Nally (Garrymore)
Cathal Carolan (Crossmolina)
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
Neil Douglas (Castlebar)
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
Alan Freeman (Aghamore)
Still not convinced about the positioning of one or two of the players, impressive looking set of forwards though. I expect a close game.
So how many of those are senior player's O Shea &.............
nally,mcloughlin and freeman are all on the senior panel as far as i know.
Neil Douglas is on the senior panel as well. Not sure if Nally is still with the seniors.
Come championship time, I'd only expect O'Shea and McLoughlin out of the under 21s to start for the seniors, with Freeman on the bench. But if someone like McHale or Nally plays out of their skin for the under 21s, they could get a look in.
Quote from: ross4life on March 15, 2010, 10:52:16 PM
Kevin Higgins & Donal Shine is the only players on the Senior Team
& yes it's 100% confirmed for 4pm Hyde Park March 17th
official team
1 Darren OMalley Michael Glaveys
2 Jack Sharkey Kilmore
3 Neill Collins Castlerea St Kevins
4 Michael Higgins Western Gaels
5 James Mc Keague Creggs
6 Niall Daly Padraig Pearses
7 Eamon Bannon Fuerty
8 Niall Carty Padraig Pearses
9 Kevin Higgins Western Gaels
10 Paul Garvey Kilmore
11 Cathal Shine Clann na nGael
12 Brian Murtagh St Faithleachs
13 Alan O Hara St Michaels
14 Donal Shine Clann na nGael
15 Niall Kilroy Fuerty
Wouldnt be shockin confident with that lineout I'm afraid.
Anyway best of luck to them and hopefully they'll surprise us on the day although it's a tough task against Connacht's U21 specialists. :-X
Expect Mayo to win this at a canter. Roscommon Gaa is f''ked at every level at the moment. Last weekend, the Senior footballers, hurlers and camogie teams were all beaten, and the ladies team is now such an embarassment, they should be disbanded immediately.
Jes lads, I don't know. I mean ye were blowing the trumpets of the 06 minor win for a few years, now everything is frigged up! I don't get it. I'm not expecting anything comfortable, any win would do I suppose, like the opener against Leitrim. We only won that by 4!
Scrap that, we'll beat the daylights out of ye tomorrow. I'm never going to say Mayo are going to lose games again, or win tight ones either for that matter.
Quote from: Shrewdness on March 16, 2010, 11:30:38 PM
Expect Mayo to win this at a canter. Roscommon Gaa is f''ked at every level at the moment. Last weekend, the Senior footballers, hurlers and camogie teams were all beaten, and the ladies team is now such an embarassment, they should be disbanded immediately.
what have you not been following underage GAA football for the last 4/5 years? apart from the 2007 under 21 final we have more than held our own v the best at this level!
Quote from: Shrewdness on March 16, 2010, 11:30:38 PM
Expect Mayo to win this at a canter. Roscommon Gaa is f''ked at every level at the moment. Last weekend, the Senior footballers, hurlers and camogie teams were all beaten, and the ladies team is now such an embarassment, they should be disbanded immediately.
Liking the reverse psychology, but the shitness of your senior teams (and by god they're rubbish these days) has no bearing at all on your underage sides. 3 years ago the Roscommon minors easily won this fixture by 1-11 to 1-5, Dempsey was managing and a lot of the lads playing today for Mayo were playing back then too.
From the Western People -- June 2007
GAA: Mayo hopes dashed by regal Ros'
ESB Connacht Minor Football Championship Semi-final
ROSCOMMON 1-11 MAYO 1-5
WHEN Roscommon forged a path to All-Ireland Minor glory last season, that outstanding success caught many of their own officials by surprise as it was widely believed by the judgers of emerging talent within county circles that manager Fergal O'Donnell would have a stronger crop of players at his disposal in 2007. How true that notion could still prove to be.
Ros' looked less impressive in their defeat of Mayo at McHale Park last year yet still mounted a victorious assault on national honours and on latest evidence, few would back against them seeing off all-comers in the defence of their crown.
Saturday's six points win was far more comprehensive than the score-line suggests and Mayo, for all their effort, looked a broken team by the finish, with both midfielders and centre half forward replaced before the long whistle. The locals were 1-7 to 0-1 in front before Mayo managed to land their second point 19 minutes from full-time, over half an hour playing time having elapsed between the green and red's pair of scores. Also, when Jason Doherty's second half goal reignited Mayo hopes, it had taken all of 48 minutes for any player other than Alan Freeman to score.
When last these sides clashed in the Connacht Minor League on St Patrick's Day, Ray Dempsey's team romped to an emphatic 1-8 to 0-4 win, however, the turnaround in fortune that occurred at Dr Hyde Park last Saturday suggests that the Provincial and All-Ireland holders enjoyed a far better preparation in the interim, aided no doubt by two championship encounters they were afforded courtesy of their participation in the inaugural round-robin series with Sligo and Leitrim.
There was hardly a sector of the field in which Roscommon conceded the advantage to their opponents and in powerhouse midfielder Colm O'Neill, playmaker Donal Shine, marksman Darren McDermott, inspirational centre-half-back James McKeague, corner-back Conor Boylan and lively sub Alan Duffy, Fergal O'Donnell's team boasted players of which Mayo had little or no success in curbing their influence.
An early downpour meant for slippy conditions but Roscommon, backed by the breeze, began brightly and by the third minute had managed to do what it would take Mayo 41 minutes to achieve - the scoring of two points. Darren McDermott was first to raise white when converting a free awarded for Ruairdhri O'Connor's pick off the ground while Kevin Cummins blazed a goal chance over the bar after Donal Shine's long ball caused confusion between both full-back Kevin Keane and corner-back Kevin McLoughlin.
Alan Freeman did eventually dissect the posts after the fouling of Mark Tierney in the 10th minute but little else was to go right for the Aghamore man, or his Mayo colleagues, for the rest of the half. Alan O'Hara, after McLoughlin blocked Donal Shine's initial point attempt, Paul Garvey, after Cummins brilliantly kept the ball in play, Darren McDermott from another free and Shine from a '45 all pointed as Ros' moved 0-6 to 0-1 ahead by the 23rd minute.
Alan Freeman had planted the leather to the opposing net just shy of the quarter hour but that score was ruled out because Niall Prenty was adjudged to have carried the ball over the line in the build up. Other scoring chances also passed Mayo by; Freeman's delay of kicking a close range free resulted in the awarding of a hop ball and the post denied the same player a third point from a first half injury time 35 metre free.
By now Mayo had done with an unsuccesful 7th defender tactic --Caoimhin Carty the fall guy when making way for Damien Keane late in the half - but their problems were many. Sean Morris was gathering lots of ball, Ruairdhri O'Connor was attacking from deep and Mark Tierney was showing for deliveries in the corner, but too often a Roscommon hand was able to overturn possession - though there was an early wayward tendency about many of Roscommon's clearances, none of which Mayo were able to better punish.
The hosts were forced into a first half change also, after captain Paul Garvey sustained a facial injury when in collision with Kevin McLoughlin, however, his replacement Alan Duffy was to prove a central player in Roscommon's continued dominance after the restart.
It was Duffy's pass at the end of an excellent move that played in Alan O'Hara for a 38th minute goal chance, the hauling down of the corner-forward presenting Darren McDermott with the opportunity to kick a close range free after half-backs Micheal Jennings and Ruairdhri O'Connor both kicked wide of the target at the opposite end in the opening exchanges of the half.
T he major Ros' had threatened was not long in arriving. When Kevin Higgins switched the direction of play from right to left, an unmarked Alan Duffy fetched the ball at the edge of square and hand-passed to McDermott whose finish not only gave Josh Tierney no chance of stopping, but the home team a 1-7 to 0-1 lead. Within 60 seconds Alan Freeman scored Mayo's second point when gathering Jennings' long delivery and with management seeking to inject new life into their team, Aidan O'Shea and Gary Loftus were summoned from the bench with Kevin McLoughlin moving from defence to attack.
McDermott and Freeman traded frees before a lifeline presented itself to Mayo in the 48th minute. Quickest onto the break from Sean Prendergast's long ball into the Ros' dangerzone, Burrishoole's Jason Doherty composed himself to shoot the O'Neill's into the bottom left corner of Darren O'Malley's goal. Somehow Mayo now found themselves just five points in arrears, 1-8 to 1-3, despite having been outplayed for long stretches.
The Alans, Duffy and Freeman, exchanged points, however, the former could have really ignited hopes of a complete recovery had he managed to guide his kick under the crossbar when superbly fetching Damien Keane's skyscraper. With McDermott and substitute O'Shea swapping frees, the margin remained the same until Roscommon's sytlish All-Ireland hero of last year, Donal Shine, pointed from distance off the ground, deep in injury time.
Their brand of football being pleasing on the eye, there was a swagger about Ros' - but there's substance to back their style. The losers struggled to keep with the pace set by the reigning champions, however, there were wholehearted contributions, most notably from Kevin Keane, Kevin McLoughlin, Ruairdhri O'Connor, Sean Morris, Niall Prenty and Alan Freeman.
ROSCOMMON: Darren O'Malley, Conor Boylan, Neil Collins, Paul O'Grady, Darragh Lennon, James McKeague, Eamon Bannon, Colm O'Neill, Kevin Higgins, Kevin Brady, Donal Shine, Paul Garvey ©, Alan O'Hara, Kevin Cummins, Darren McDermott.
Subs used: Alan Duffy (Garvey 28-inj), Niall Carty (for Cummins 53), Eugene Stritch (for Brady 57), Ger Brady (for Bannon 60).
MAYO: Josh Tierney, Michael Gallagher, Kevin Keane, Kevin McLoughlin, Sean Prendergast, Micheal Jennings, Ruairdhri O'Connor, Sean Morris, Michael Nestor, Keith Glynn (c), Caoimhin Carty, Niall Prenty, Mark Tierney, Jason Doherty, Alan Freeman.
Subs used: Damien Keane (for Carty 24), Aidan O'Shea (for Tierney 42), Gary Loftus (for Glynn 42), Ronan Warde (for Nestor 50), Donal Gallagher (for Morris 59).
REFEREE: Michael Duffy (Sligo)
By my count 9 of Roscommon's starting 15 today and 6 of Mayo's played in this game.
And I suppose the other match of relevance would be last years game.
From the Western People -- March 2009
GAA: A great escape but fully deserved
Cadburys Connacht U-21 Football Championship - quarter-final
MAYO 4-14 ROSCOMMON 2-15
OH where to start. Eighty minutes, six goals, twenty nine points, injury time equalisers, shocking misses, super subs, sacrificed bodies ... to try and find a game replicate in entertainment and quality to Saturday's epic Connacht U-21 semi-final would be a task almost as difficult as that which requires this reporter to limit the match summary to this space alone.
First the synopsis; a goal steered home from the last kick of normal time by Jason Doherty, via the flailing leg of a Roscommon defender, earned Mayo's U-21s extra-time, a period where they finally staved off the determined challenge of the visitors.
First-half Mayo goals by Niall Douglas and Jason Doherty were negated after half-time by Fintan Cregg and David O'Gara, as the Green and Red let slip an eight points second-half lead to trail by three in deepest injury time. However, scoring 2-9 in the second half alone was not enough to allow Roscommon advance to a provincial final showdown with Sligo, and buoyed by their great escape, Mayo dominated extra-time with three points by substitute Conor Jordan preceding a second Douglas goal a minute before the final whistle. It brought to an end a game of absorbing drama. Now for the unedited account!
Showing one change to the team that defeated Galway, with the introduction of corner-back Eoghan O'Reilly, for Michael Gallagher, meaning goalkeeper and all three full-back line positions were filled entirely by 2008 minors (a total of six started), Mayo stormed out of the blocks to lead by 0-4 to no score after 14 minutes with points from Cathal Freeman, a free, Jason Doherty, two, and Tom Parsons. Both teams incurred significant early losses however, with corner-back Peter Domican, one of the Roscommon starting team's 13 survivors from the 2006 All-Ireland winning minors (all 15 were used by game's end), and Mayo play-maker Freeman both forced off by injury on 12 and 20 minutes respectively.
Dominant around the middle where Cathal Carolan partnered Tom Parsons, with Aidan O'Shea assisting from centre-forward, Mayo relinquished that hold for a brief spell midway through the half and Roscommon were able land their first points through Donal Shine, a free, and Kevin Higgins, but outscored between the 24th minute and half-time by 2-1 to 0-2, the Shannonsiders were to turnaround seven points in arrears. A Jason Doherty free preceded two Mayo goals - the second of which he scored after Frank Burke and Niall Douglas combined cleverly up the right wing - and the first belonging to Douglas after Doherty himself had walloped the ball off the crossbar in the lead up.
Mayo's tactic of running off the shoulder from deep, with Donal Vaughan, Lee Keegan, Carolan, Parsons and O'Shea linking particularly well, was causing maximum destruction. Showing for everything, Doherty was playing the target man role to perfection, and the home side's 2-5 to 0-4 half-time lead was richly deserved. Roscommon, popping over two late frees through Donal Shine, looked shell-shocked as they headed for sanctuary.
Quite why Conor Devaney, who kicked four second-half points, was held in reserve until the start of the second half dominated post-mortem discussions among Roscommon supporters, as it was the Kilbride man who almost single-handedly inspired a most stunning fight-back. Looking more than just match-fit despite a recent bout of bumps, just 80 seconds of the new half had elapsed when he forced Mayo 'keeper Robert Hennelly into a fine save. Doherty did point Mayo eight clear a minute later but by the 40th minute just a single white flag divided the teams. Points by Roscommon's Fintan Cregg and Conor Devaney, a self won free, were met with a Donal Vaughan fisted point in response, but two goals in the space of 60 seconds turned the game on its head.
Kevin McLoughlin's adopting of the well-tested John Broderick's duties had no immediate effect in quelling the threat of Devaney who drilled the ball left to right into Cregg who gathered and fired past Hennelly on 39 minutes. The Breaffy man was picking the ball out of his net again almost as soon as he had kicked it out; Donal Shine kicked high towards Mayo's goal from 45 metres and David O'Gara rose above defence and the advanced Hennelly to fist to an empty net.
Their lead whittled dramatically, 2-7 to 2-6, Mayo's initial response was positive with Carolan and Hennelly, a 45, easing them three points ahead with 17 minutes remaining, but glaring deficiencies in defence had now been exposed and Roscommon, like hungry lions, looked for a kill. Driven on from the rear by excellent centre-back David Flynn, points by Fintan Cregg, Kevin Higgins and Conor Devaney, a free, levelled the game before Higgins kicked the visitors in front for the first time, followed by a Devaney brace from play which had them 2-12 to 2-9 ahead with five minutes left on the clock.
Between all that, sub Sean Prendergast would have restored Mayo's lead had he not driven the leather off the Roscommon crossbar when cutting in from the left wing. Mikey Sweeney, quieter than normal, did weave some magic to point from top of the left for Mayo's first score in 13 minutes, but when O'Shea missed from dead-centre, and the hardworking Higgins immediately popped over the bar at the other end, it looked game over for the reigning champions. Their players thought different though, and when 53rd minute introduction Conor Jordan lobbed in the free that Niall Douglas offered his body to win, one second over the allotted two minutes injury time had passed when Jason Doherty swung a leg in the jampacked Roscommon goal-mouth to direct the loose ball off an unlucky defender and into the bottom right corner of Mark Miley's goal.
From the throw-in of extra-time, you sensed there would only be one winner; Mayo were not about to waste their reprieve, even if Doherty would again do everything right except smash the ball off the Roscommon crossbar when picked out from distance by Aidan O'Shea. Corner-forwards Sweeney and Jordan, two, lofted over terrific points within five minutes of the restart, and either side of the short-whistle, Roscommon's Higgins exchanged a point with what was Jordan's third in nine minutes playing time.
Cregg did reward another creative play by Conor Devaney with a point, this reducing the arrears to two with six minutes to play, and Devaney and fellow sub Cathal McHugh threatened more Roscommon goals on 76 and 78 minutes, but Mayo stood firm and when extra-time sub Niall Prenty combined with Tom Parsons to carve open the Roscommon defence one final time, it allowed Niall Douglas the happy task of rattling home his second and Mayo's fourth major to confirm their entrance to the provincial decider. Anyone for a four-in a-row?
SCORERS - Mayo: Jason Doherty 2-4 (0-1f), Niall Douglas 2-0, Conor Jordan 0-3 (1f), Mikey Sweeney 0-2, Cathal Carolan, Cathal Freeman (f), Tom Parsons, Donal Vaughan and Robert Hennelly (45) 0-1 each. Roscommon: Fintan Cregg 1-3, Kevin Higgins 0-5, Conor Devaney 0-4 (2f), David O'Gara 1-0, Donal Shine 0-3f.
MAYO: Robert Hennelly; Eoghan O'Reilly, Kevin Keane, John Broderick; Donal Vaughan, Lee Keegan, Kevin McLoughlin; Tom Parsons (c), Cathal Carolan; Frank Burke, Aidan O'Shea, Cathal Freeman; Michael Sweeney, Niall Douglas, Jason Doherty.
Subs: Brian Gallagher (for Freeman 20-inj), Sean Prendergast (for Broderick 50), Conor Jordan (for Gallagher 53), Niall Prenty (for Burke 73), Colm English (for Vaughan 77-inj), Brian Gallagher (for Parsons 80).
ROSCOMMON: Mark Miley; Niall Carthy, Neil Collins, Peter Domican; Donal Ward, David Flynn, James McKeague; Donal Shine, David Keenan; Keith Waldron, Paul Garvey, Kevin Higgins; Fintan Cregg, Mark McLoughlin, David O'Gara. Subs: Stephen Ormsby (for Domican 12-inj), Conor Devaney (for Garvey h/t), Paul Gleeson (for Collins 34), Cathal McHugh (for McLoughlin 43), Cathal Shine (for Waldron 69), Colm Garvey (for McKeague 73).
Referee: Ray McBrien (Leitrim).
Nine of today's Mayo 15 and seven Rossies involved in that one.
Heading to Tuam in a while in hope. Will be a proud day for our club as a lad from our club leads out a Sligo team for a Connacht Championship for the first time in ages (actually don't know the last time but not in my lifetime anyway). Its a mugs game to predict anything with how little I know about our team never mind Galway. 3 years ago is the base for a lot of it when we really could have turned them over. All I hope is that if things are going awry that our strong subs are used quickly if lads are not performing. If they're doing the business then great. Record in Tuam has to improve some time, doesn't it?
Fair Play to you Cosmo Kramer trying to play down Mayo's chances ;) you should have included the 2008 u21 Game while your at it! judging by your posted reports Jason Doherty is the main man
Ray Dempsey used those tactics after the First connacht minor final last Summer & it worked
the Fact remains Roscommon are huge outsiders in Today's Game!
I didn't bother with the 08 game as theres not much similarity between that team and today's one (only Doherty and Neil Douglas involved in both on the Mayo side) but ya, its another example that theres rarely been more than a kick of the ball between the two teams at underage level in recent years, and the one time there was, was when Roscommon handed us a kicking in that minor game three years ago. I think it's 50/50 today at best for us to be honest, and home advantage could be a factor as well. I might have to change my avatar signature after this one, and I'd rather not because I quite like it!
Question for ye rossies, Is Alan Lavin still involved with the U21 setup?
Cadbury Connacht U21FC semi-finals
Galway 0-03 0-02 Sligo, Tuam, 4.00pm
Roscommon 0-01 0-03 Mayo, Dr Hyde Park, 4.00pm
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/03/17/gaa-live-scores-fixtures-results-wednesday-17-march-2010/
1-5 Ros 0-8 Mayo, mayo last three scores
2-5 1-8, two goals in thirty seconds
2-6 1-9
2-7 1-10, Roscommon down to 14 men most of the half.
2-8 1-10 for Ros, 1 minute left
2-8 1-11 thirty seconds left in injury time
2-9 1-11 Donie Shine point, game over, Ros win
Oh well. On the law of averages they were due to win a close one. Disappointing that we didn'[t close it out if they were down to 14.
Who won the other semi?
Fair play to Ros. They bucked the trend of everything else going on in Ros Gaa at the moment.
Delighted to be proven wrong in my prediction. On paper, i felt that we had a stronger U-21 team in each of the last 2 years than this year, but of course, games aren't played on paper.
Hopefully this result will give the whole football scene in Ros a badly needed shot in the arm.
Galway and Sligo gone to extra time as have Dublin and Carlow. Hopefully Ros kick on, its a big win, it would be great to see them challenge for the Connacht first and then the all-ireland
Sligo v Roscommon Connacht under 21 final.
I reckon the final should be in Hyde Park, but i seem to remember Ros beating Sligo last year in Markievicz Park, but i stand corrected. Fair to say that we had 2 surprise results today, but fair play to the winners.
Ya, i'm not sure where it will be but hopefully it'll get a big crowd. Really fancied Mayo to do something this year, but there you go. Its certainly a topsy-turvy competition this year, Westmeath kinda came out of nowhere in Leinster as well, and Carlow went so close against Dublin, although that group has form.
Sligo will have home advantage as the teams last met in Kiltoom in 2008. Both teams will have a realistic hope of being Connacht Championship. Galway would have been expected to be the strongest team in the province so that was a mighty win for Sligo. Fair play to Ros for taking Mayo in the second half, a man down and against the wind. Sometimes the Gods do shine down on the lesser mortals of Connacht! But with Leitrim also running Mayo very close, it is nice to see such an even Connacht championship.
Well after all that Pain & hurt of underage Roscommon Football in the last 4 years Finally we won one at long last!
& Mayo boys can say we didn't Deserve it after they way they beat us all those years!
but this win will mean nothing if we can't Finish the job in the Connacht final!
but for now it's a happy St paddys day ;D
What was score in Galway v Sligo game
I think it was 0-13 to 0-14 after extra-time
Ros deserved it today. It was a sickener to concede that last point at the end, but with the way Mayo played all day, it was inevitable they would lose. Ros got stuck into them from the off.
Final is confirmed for Saturday April 3rd no time or venue yet but will be in Sligo
Sligo 0-13 Galway 0-12 AET
Just back from Tuam, its a great feeling beating Galway especially in Tuam but Ive got to be honest, it was a poor game alot of the time and a Galway side that are gone back miles, id be very worried for Galways future. Both Management had the wrong teams out by the looks of subs that came on. Sligo have an awful lot of work to do though. We were lucky at times but could of won it more comfortably aswell.
Ros are hot favs for the Final. Yes it has to be in Sligo. More than likely Markievicz Park.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 17, 2010, 08:32:51 PM
Ros are hot favs for the Final.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
To win just once as they say and at last we did.
Years of U 21 heartbreak, near misses and wallopings from the rhubarbs were wiped out by one moment of Donie Shine legendary magic to bate the Rhubarbs with the second last kick of the game.
A very poor first half in which we were awful but a goal before h/t gave us a lead we scarcely deserved.
We increased the lead in the first minute of the second but lost our way a bit after O'Hara's sending off.
We conceded a goal within about 20 seconds of scoring our second a blow which would have finished a lesser team.
We showed great spirit to take it all in our stride( well maybe not stride ....) and in my opinion the introduction of Darren Mc Dermott brought a bit of life to our attack which had gone very blunt.
Overall we deserved our win ,just about but will need a massive improvement if we're to win in Markievicz.
Some of the other Ros lads might confirm this but I believe we had 8 21year olds , 5 20 year olds and 3 19 year olds in action today . That includes our sub Darren Mc Dermott.
There are serious problems alright in Galway underage football mainly bought about through years of neglect. Alan Mulholland more or less hinted at it earlier in the week when he said he's barely seen the players since they won the minor in 2007 and has had very little time with them even recently. I think they started with 9 or 10 All-Ireland winners today so really should not be losing games on home turf but the players are not developing like they should. He sounded like a very frustrated man and that was before the game. So much was spent on actually building a Galway football centre that they haven't bothered to spend anything on the grass roots to fill that centre. The youth structures have gone to shite in the county and when nobody tends the garden it quickly becomes overgrown with weeds. If our minors crash out early again this year it might finally force the county board the review the whole system.
I don't think Galway have won an U-21 match in 5 years now which is absolutely scandalous.
id imagine ros will win this one.a very good team(although i havent seen the sligo team this year).hopefully the fact that cavan didnt lose to ros by much without a few key players means we can go far in ulster this year.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 17, 2010, 08:57:16 PM
There are serious problems alright in Galway underage football mainly bought about through years of neglect. Alan Mulholland more or less hinted at it earlier in the week when he said he's barely seen the players since they won the minor in 2007 and has had very little time with them even recently. I think they started with 9 or 10 All-Ireland winners today so really should not be losing games on home turf but the players are not developing like they should. He sounded like a very frustrated man and that was before the game. So much was spent on actually building a Galway football centre that they haven't bothered to spend anything on the grass roots to fill that centre. The youth structures have gone to shite in the county and when nobody tends the garden it quickly becomes overgrown with weeds. If our minors crash out early again this year it might finally force the county board the review the whole system.
He can whinge all he wants though ye manager cost ye, how in the hell did Jonathan Ryan not start. When he came on for 20mins he nearly destroyed us singled handed. Michael Martin and Conroy both average enough. Cummins did look dangerous especially in the 1st half and then went out of it. That was it besides brief spells of domination at midfield.
Because of that I go into the final with feet firmly on the ground. With us aswell our management need to look at themselves, Clarke, Greene, Hynes and Brady all did brilliant when came on and 3 should start the next. Also daniel maye will be a cert too.
All I can say is well done to Ros and I hope ye go all the way. Donal Shine's winning point was sheer class. He is a real star.
Congrats to both Roscommon & Sligo today.
Rossfan you better stay away from the Senior League & Championship if you want to stay in fine form. ;) I can see a lot more Green & Red inflicted pain in your future.
Best of luck to whoever wins Connacht.
Best of luck to Roscommon. Showed greater hunger. We stole it last year so hard to begrudge them this one.
From a Mayo perspective this was a dreadful performance. It was obvious from the start that we had overvalued this bunch and the lacklustre performance against Leitrim was pretty much par for this team. Even if we advanced it would be very short term with a lesson like the one handed out by Down last year waiting for them. The complete lack of a midfield did nt help. The half back line lacked authority as well. The lack of proper support runners, even when a man up, was perplexing. I d say if management had to go back again they d play both Nally and McLoughlin in hb line and build from there. FB line seemed solid enough. With AOS having to dig out a woeful midfield our attack lacked shape all day. Dreadful decision making does nt help either. Remember many of these lads lost an AI minor by fluting around with the ball. They have nt learned. With an extra man today they continually kicked the ball away near the end when they should have carried and kept the ball through the hands. And some of the ball given away with silly hand passing was inexcusable. The turn over for Shine s winning point was a juvenile error. Anyway at least we know some of these players can play at senior level and that s the main thing. But as a whole this team looked badly flawed today.
<choke ><choke > well done roscomm.... sorry cant finish it off
donal shine was the difference today he is a prestigious Kicker of the ball not only was the last point worthy of winning any game his free from about 55 metres against the wind was as good as youll see any where.
Hope he fucks off to oz now or something.
Despite the usual youll hear from the Fatalistic mayo boys the lads actually were not that bad today Just beaten by a better more clinical side . As with last years match Ros look to have more players ready for senior straight away , but then again remember last june...
most positive note for mayo was the performance of kevin keane. he look aggressive and assured and a real possible for the senior set up also Aisen Ose looks like hes continuing his rehabilitation
Ros football really needed this result and fair play to all involved in the set-up. I was expecting to face Galway in the final but fair play to Sligo as well. Sure it will be a big deal for which ever team wins.
Was it just me or was anyone else from a Mayo point of view disappointed with Kevin McLoughlin yesterday, despite knocking that point over near the end yesterday. I thought he wasn't in it much and most times he got the ball he gave it away.
Couldn't get to the game because of Paddy's day etc. but I would feel that maybe a few questions would have to be asked from a Mayo point of view. Maybe even some of ye on here could provide the answers. So here goes...
If Keane remains as good as he was as a minor, why was he only on the team because of injury, and not picked from the start? Would he be worth a place in the Senior panel this year - we're not exactly overflowing with options in the full back line?
Nally at midfield - surely a case of good player, wrong position?
With quality like O'Shea and Douglas in the forwards, did we really need McLoughlin up there? Would we not have been better served with him in the backs?
What's the story with Jason Gibbons, if he has left the panel, was it purely a personal thing or was there a management issue?
My personal opinion is that the key to under 21 success is getting three years worth of minors together and making the best out of them. Whem we won the All-Ireland in 2006 we included a good few lads who had played minor the year before and mixed them in with more experienced lads like Keith Higgins, Barry Moran and Aiden Kilcoyne. Dempsey seems to have pretty much ignored last years minors, who got to an All-Ireland final. Surely getting a few of them involved could have improved the team, because we knew the 07 minors weren't great and we seemed to be trying to patch things up just by bringing in the 08 lads. We should have brought in a couple of the 09 guys too imo.
I suppose the only bright side is that Galway don't seem to have much coming through, and even though we can expect a resurgent Roscommon in a few years time, Galway will always be our most competitive rival in Connacht, but we seem to have more options for the future than them.
p.s. taking nothing away from the Rossies here, fair play to them yeaterday.
Roscommon deserved their victory yesterday, while there is a lot of focus on mcloughlin and nally being played in wrong positions. Nally was the better of our two midfielders (which wasnt difficult), no wonder jason gibbons walked away. Tactically we got it all wrong, at the start of the second half we brought Alan Freeman to Wing forward - Roscommon Number 5 Mc Keague ran riot, they moved mcloughlin to corner forward what was that all about, changed back after 10-15 mins. For the second game running brought on a sub for 15mins and then replaced him. Carolan was doing way better than doherty but taken off again.
Ray talks about individual mistakes costing us all irelands, me thinks he should look in the mirror.
Quote from: rosnarun on March 18, 2010, 12:31:05 AM
<choke ><choke > well done roscomm.... sorry cant finish it off
donal shine was the difference today he is a prestigious Kicker of the ball not only was the last point worthy of winning any game his free from about 55 metres against the wind was as good as youll see any where.
Hope he f**ks off to oz now or something.
Despite the usual youll hear from the Fatalistic mayo boys the lads actually were not that bad today Just beaten by a better more clinical side . As with last years match Ros look to have more players ready for senior straight away , but then again remember last june...
most positive note for mayo was the performance of kevin keane. he look aggressive and assured and a real possible for the senior set up also Aisen Ose looks like hes continuing his rehabilitation
:D :D :D Well done to the rossies on yesterdays win
A day of joy and firsts yesterday. First time to see a Coolera/Strandhill man lead out a Sligo team. First time to see a Sligo team win in Tuam (I think 1994 is the last time and I wasn't there). First time to see Sligo win with Vincent Neary refereeing (I missed the NFL game v. Kilkenny last year and sure that shouldn't count anyway!). First time to see a Galway forward line kick so many bad wides.
Galway were not great which is a cause of concern for the next day. A few holes in our team to be plugged but I expect the team to come on for this game. Was very surprised at Michael Martyn today. He looked like another golden Galway forward on the way through when I saw him at minor but has regressed a bit. That can happen with young players I suppose, wouldn't write him off completely. I saw David Maye a few times last season and was quite worried about his progress but he was super yesterday.
A Connacht final in Markievicz for the second year in a row. This is a good Roscommon team so winning it will be awful hard. We can possibly do it if the workrate and honest endeavour of the players is anything to go by. For now though I'm going to enjoy the feeling of walking out of Tuam Stadium with the head held high yesterday. Going by the roundabout coming out of the ground an ould guy driving by leaned out the window and asked "who won the match?" He was told "Sligo" to which he replied with incredulity "but sure weren't they playing Galway?" (*)
(*) - Galway folk, this is not gloating and I hope its not construed as such. We have got some terrible hidings in Tuam over the years so let me enjoy this one. I've savage respect for Galway football.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 18, 2010, 12:21:34 PM
A day of joy and firsts yesterday. First time to see a Coolera/Strandhill man lead out a Sligo team. First time to see a Sligo team win in Tuam (I think 1994 is the last time and I wasn't there). First time to see Sligo win with Vincent Neary refereeing (I missed the NFL game v. Kilkenny last year and sure that shouldn't count anyway!). First time to see a Galway forward line kick so many bad wides.
Galway were not great which is a cause of concern for the next day. A few holes in our team to be plugged but I expect the team to come on for this game. Was very surprised at Michael Martyn today. He looked like another golden Galway forward on the way through when I saw him at minor but has regressed a bit. That can happen with young players I suppose, wouldn't write him off completely. I saw David Maye a few times last season and was quite worried about his progress but he was super yesterday.
A Connacht final in Markievicz for the second year in a row. This is a good Roscommon team so winning it will be awful hard. We can possibly do it if the workrate and honest endeavour of the players is anything to go by. For now though I'm going to enjoy the feeling of walking out of Tuam Stadium with the head held high yesterday. Going by the roundabout coming out of the ground an ould guy driving by leaned out the window and asked "who won the match?" He was told "Sligo" to which he replied with incredulity "but sure weren't they playing Galway?" (*)
(*) - Galway folk, this is not gloating and I hope its not construed as such. We have got some terrible hidings in Tuam over the years so let me enjoy this one. I've savage respect for Galway football.
Enjoy the final seanie. Wasn't at the game but heard it on the radio and Galway seemed to kick a mountain of bad wides alright but if you kick so many wides you don't deserve to win games. End of story.
Lot on anger in Galway this morning towards the county board and the underage system in place (or lack of it) at the moment so if one good thing comes from it hopefully it will be a complete revamp of the system. I won't hold my breath though.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 18, 2010, 12:21:34 PM
A day of joy and firsts yesterday. First time to see a Coolera/Strandhill man lead out a Sligo team. First time to see a Sligo team win in Tuam (I think 1994 is the last time and I wasn't there). First time to see Sligo win with Vincent Neary refereeing (I missed the NFL game v. Kilkenny last year and sure that shouldn't count anyway!). First time to see a Galway forward line kick so many bad wides.
Galway were not great which is a cause of concern for the next day. A few holes in our team to be plugged but I expect the team to come on for this game. Was very surprised at Michael Martyn today. He looked like another golden Galway forward on the way through when I saw him at minor but has regressed a bit. That can happen with young players I suppose, wouldn't write him off completely. I saw David Maye a few times last season and was quite worried about his progress but he was super yesterday.
A Connacht final in Markievicz for the second year in a row. This is a good Roscommon team so winning it will be awful hard. We can possibly do it if the workrate and honest endeavour of the players is anything to go by. For now though I'm going to enjoy the feeling of walking out of Tuam Stadium with the head held high yesterday. Going by the roundabout coming out of the ground an ould guy driving by leaned out the window and asked "who won the match?" He was told "Sligo" to which he replied with incredulity "but sure weren't they playing Galway?" (*)
(*) - Galway folk, this is not gloating and I hope its not construed as such. We have got some terrible hidings in Tuam over the years so let me enjoy this one. I've savage respect for Galway football.
It was a fully merited win by Sligo yesterday and our lads can have no complaints. With the help of God it might finally get the penny to drop with the powers that be in Galway that a massive overhaul is required of the current underage structures because they have been a shambles for the past few years and the minors of '07 just glossed over that fact. Yesterday was proof of how far some players have regressed in two and a half years. It was/is alarming. It has been a poor start to 2010 for our footballers and unfortunately it is going to get worse before it gets better.
Best of luck to Sligo in the Connacht Final.
Thats the third time Sligo have knocked Galway out of the u21 in the last 10yrs. Not a bad statistic. Was wondering who the captain was, so Keelan it is, jees he definitly leads by example.
The Rossies have to be confident, and as I said to Dad they will be delighted to hear Sligo won.
Strangest thing though about these u21s, was the late appointment, and not many rate the manager but yet we beat Galway in Tuam probably being one of the worst prepared teams in the country. This team got together very late so it was a pleasant suprise yday.
Well done Rossie lads.
A sore one to lose - but by all accounts the Mayo lads got what they deserved. 4 in a row was a brilliant achievement and will be the back bone of our team for the next 5/6 years. There are good players on this years team also that will come again - and some of them at u21 level. I didn't see the team play but would have been suprised at some of the positional moves.
The draw opens up nicely for both Roscommon and Sligo now so give it a good go.
Given the games at this level between Ros and Mayo over the last 3 years it looks like the rivalry between us will be renewed big time over the coming years.
Quote from: Barney on March 18, 2010, 03:29:51 PM
Given the games at this level between Ros and Mayo over the last 3 years it looks like the rivalry between us will be renewed big time over the coming years.
The rivalry never went away Barney. ;) :D ;D...just that we werent able to compete with ye the last 10 - 15 years and ye were taking no heed of us as a result.
I hear that one of ye're mentors helped get us fired up for the second half ::)
Ros were more up for this game than Mayo and good luck to them.
Mayo seemed to be strolling and lacked urgency. They only reacted when Ros did something worthwhile. This is often a sign of a team that has lost the edge or the hunger to win. Unfortunately when Donie Shine kicked that magnificent point Mayo did not have time to react.
Kevin McLoughlin is a genuinely good player but he was indeed out of it. However he was picked at centre forward and when Aidan O Shea moved there or thereabouts to support midfield McLoughlin was lost. He was dispatched to corner forward for a period! And all I can say to that is sweetmother-a-jazus!
All in all Ray got it wrong on several fronts - and the efforts to put things right on the day had the opposite effect.
I dont like the idea of putting in subs and hauling them out again after ten or twelve minutes. I personally thought that Carolan was badly treated in both games.
Finally I'm afraid I did not see too many potentially top class senior player in this Mayo side apart from O'Shea.
Did O'Shea play well? I have serious doubts as to whether he will make it at senior level.
Zulu ......O Shea was very good yesterday. Without him I think we would have been well beaten.
He was the only one of the '6' forwards who was any good in my opinion yesterday. Douglas and Freeman seemed to be coming off second best all day.
That's good to hear as I'd like to see him do well but I just have a feeling he won't have the mobility for senior football, I think his size has helped him underage but I'd have major concerns that his football isn't quite good enough for IC without the advantages of his size.
some one asked about keane , he was picked from the start as he was for the semi but had a family bereavement so didnt play .
Was the best back for mayo yesterday and I expect will move up to senior sooner rather than later.
I d be surprised if Keane wasn't moved into the senior panel straight away. We haven't enough in the panel that can play in fb line without lookin like a bag of nerves.He has always looked the part imo. At the other end of the panel we may have a couple of forwards with little to offer. As some of us have said before the panel should be open for players to add in [ or move on] as players emerge and needs arise. And there is an obvious need for Keane.
On reflection I think we ll get more and better seniors from our team yesterday than Ros will get from theirs. Our players looked like they expected to win without having to do much. I know management expected to win Connacht at least and believed they had a right good team. Maybe they looked to scrape through, tweak about with the selection, and peak for the later stages like some senior counties do. Trouble is there is no back door for U21 and players haven't the maturity anyway for that kind of thing. Any way it came badly unstuck and management should learn from that.
A big flaw in the team was the midfield. Not alone was the starting 2 inadequate, there was nobody on the bench. Anybody know what the real story with Gibbons is?
Nally should have been dispatched to the hb line. Rogers was made a patsy of - did little wrong as far as I saw - while our 6,8 and 9 had no authority on the game but apparently were irreplaceable. A genuine midfield sub could have allowed Nally to go to 6 or 7 and that alone could have got us over the line. Both McLoughlin and Nally in hb line would have assured a win if we had any competent midfield. How they ended up in championship without a half decent midfield is an issue. Turned out to be the rock they perished on - as well as an obvious lack of urgency. There was more than enough quality besides to go a long way.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 18, 2010, 08:53:38 PM
He was the only one of the '6' forwards who was any good in my opinion yesterday. Douglas and Freeman seemed to be coming off second best all day.
Douglas scored seven points, four from play. Freeman had a poor first half but did well in the second half. I would question the other three forwards. But I'd say about McLoughlin that he is after playing four high level games in 10 days. It was clear from him that it took a toll. Same for Aidan O'Shea but he's bigger and more able for punishment.
Midfield was the problem along with not having Nally and McLoughlin in the half-back line along with Lee Keegan. I reckon they should have thrown Danny Kirby on at half-time. Would have made a difference. And would have been no harm to throw O'Shea to midfield as well.
Commotion at half-time too. Aparently some Rossies started on Dempsey before all hell broke loose outside the dressing room.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on March 18, 2010, 11:56:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 18, 2010, 08:53:38 PM
He was the only one of the '6' forwards who was any good in my opinion yesterday. Douglas and Freeman seemed to be coming off second best all day.
Douglas scored seven points, four from play. Freeman had a poor first half but did well in the second half. I would question the other three forwards. But I'd say about McLoughlin that he is after playing four high level games in 10 days. It was clear from him that it took a toll. Same for Aidan O'Shea but he's bigger and more able for punishment.
Midfield was the problem along with not having Nally and McLoughlin in the half-back line along with Lee Keegan. I reckon they should have thrown Danny Kirby on at half-time. Would have made a difference. And would have been no harm to throw O'Shea to midfield as well.
Commotion at half-time too. Aparently some Rossies started on Dempsey before all hell broke loose outside the dressing room.
Heard some thing happened alright. But from the other side and it had a different spin. ' a senior mayo mentor lamped a Ros player in the tunnel'. What the **** is that about? Stuff happens I suppose but ffs I wish our lot concentrated on imposing themselves on the pitch. Mayo management I noticed was agitated early in the first half. For no obvious reason - apart from the fact that they realised that their team were underpitched and even after 10 mins it was obvious they were in no state of mind or shape for a championship match.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on March 18, 2010, 11:56:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 18, 2010, 08:53:38 PM
He was the only one of the '6' forwards who was any good in my opinion yesterday. Douglas and Freeman seemed to be coming off second best all day.
Douglas scored seven points, four from play. Freeman had a poor first half but did well in the second half. I would question the other three forwards. But I'd say about McLoughlin that he is after playing four high level games in 10 days. It was clear from him that it took a toll. Same for Aidan O'Shea but he's bigger and more able for punishment.
Midfield was the problem along with not having Nally and McLoughlin in the half-back line along with Lee Keegan. I reckon they should have thrown Danny Kirby on at half-time. Would have made a difference. And would have been no harm to throw O'Shea to midfield as well.
Commotion at half-time too. Aparently some Rossies started on Dempsey before all hell broke loose outside the dressing room.
True, and you could make a strong case for Cillian O Connor as well. But no. St Gerald's and minors should be their focus. There was more than enough 19 and 20 year olds around to win a Connacht and to be honest I would n't be too put out about losing this one. If this U21 management have a future they have to learn. They are lucky in that they ve had 3 good teams and 3 lessons in 3 years. They had more player resources to turn to than Roscommon management at U21 level. Probably twice as much. They got it wrong but will have the opportunity to get it right next year.
Quote from: rosnarun on March 18, 2010, 10:28:15 PM
some one asked about keane , he was picked from the start as he was for the semi but had a family bereavement so didnt play .
Was the best back for mayo yesterday and I expect will move up to senior sooner rather than later.
That was me. Fair enough so, I didn't know the background. Might be worth drafting him into the seniors, even if its more for experience than anything else this year.
According to Stolensheep, Dempsey assaulted one of the Roscommon players at HT running into the dressing room. Low act, hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 19, 2010, 12:31:12 PM
According to Stolensheep, Dempsey assaulted one of the Roscommon players at HT running into the dressing room. Low act, hope he gets a lengthy ban.
He probably lay down on the ground after that.
The Connacht U21 final between Roscommon and Sligo has been fixed for Saturday, April 3rd ,in Markievicz Park ,Sligo with throw in at 5pm.
The final will be preceeded by the Connacht minor league game between Sligo and Roscommon with throw in at 3.15pm
Quote from: ross4life on March 19, 2010, 03:27:33 PM
The Connacht U21 final between Roscommon and Sligo has been fixed for Saturday, April 3rd ,in Markievicz Park ,Sligo with throw in at 5pm.
The final will be preceeded by the Connacht minor league game between Sligo and Roscommon with throw in at 3.15pm
Good stuff, cant wait... and our seniors play the sunday the 8th....