Just like the past few seasons we have reached a must win game for Tyrone and the league note en half over. Possibly have Dooher back and will def have Mugsy, Mulgrew and the suspended lads available.
Any word on Sean, Ryan and Philly??
Would appreciate some directions from Lurgan to Inniskeen from the Monaghan lads if possible
I'm told Sean might be back end of March / beginning of April.
I hear other old corcks like Plunket Donaghy, Eugene Mc Kenna and Kevin Mc Cabe are in line for a recall
Quote from: T Fearon on February 15, 2010, 01:50:11 PM
I hear other old corcks like Plunket Donaghy, Eugene Mc Kenna and Kevin Mc Cabe are in line for a recall
At least Tyrone heroes remain in Tyrone, instead of buggering off to other counties ;)
Quote from: ziggysego on February 15, 2010, 02:26:19 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 15, 2010, 01:50:11 PM
I hear other old corcks like Plunket Donaghy, Eugene Mc Kenna and Kevin Mc Cabe are in line for a recall
At least Tyrone heroes remain in Tyrone, instead of buggering off to other counties ;)
:D :D
no doubt this is amassive game for us, with kerry, Dublin, galway and Cork coming up we need these two points badly
I was very impressed with colm cavanagh and Aidan Cassidy last Sunday, I would play that as my midfield against Monaghan.
Don't think Plunkett would be able to round the keeper as easily nowadays as he did against Armagh in 94 ;D
Saw Sean, Brian, Ryan Mellon and Philly out training at Loughry on Saturday morning. Could be nearing a return.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 15, 2010, 01:50:11 PM
I hear other old corcks like Plunket Donaghy, Eugene Mc Kenna and Kevin Mc Cabe are in line for a recall
Sure we'll just bring back Frank McGuigan.. wouldn't be the first time he beat Armagh on his own ;)
This might be the only National League game where Tyrone aren't on tv.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 15, 2010, 07:47:17 PM
This might be the only National League game where Tyrone aren't on tv.
Actually I think it's set to be shown deferred on TG4.
More suspensions then ;)
Are Monaghan using Clones for any of their league games this year or is out of action at the minute?
Quote from: Club Rossa on February 15, 2010, 07:04:21 PM
Don't think Plunkett would be able to round the keeper as easily nowadays as he did against Armagh in 94 ;D
Hey,hey no need for to be saying something like that about Plunkett. Have you seen Paul Hearty play lately??
Quote from: cusack og on February 15, 2010, 08:54:36 PM
Are Monaghan using Clones for any of their league games this year or is out of action at the minute?
Out of action for the league - there's a new pitch going in.
Must-win game for Monaghan here and I can't remember the last time we beat Tyrone. We really should have been picking up a point or two against Galway and we're clear favourites for the drop. We only have Tyrone and Derry at home and need to be trying to get something from both games.
The thing is that Monaghan are probably a good bit better than last year - we have a bit more depth on the bench and we've sorted the old over reliance on Freeman up front, but there really is a massive step up from Division 2 to Division 1.
Division 1 has never been as competive. U can do down with 5 points. Only Mickey Harte can save Tyrone now.
Quote from: tyroneman on February 15, 2010, 11:28:46 AM
Just like the past few seasons we have reached a must win game for Tyrone and the league note en half over. Possibly have Dooher back and will def have Mugsy, Mulgrew and the suspended lads available.
Any word on Sean, Ryan and Philly??
Would appreciate some directions from Lurgan to Inniskeen from the Monaghan lads if possible
They will be making their comebacks for moy in this weekends game in the ulster league.
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 15, 2010, 09:48:09 PM
Quote from: cusack og on February 15, 2010, 08:54:36 PM
Are Monaghan using Clones for any of their league games this year or is out of action at the minute?
Out of action for the league - there's a new pitch going in.
Must-win game for Monaghan here and I can't remember the last time we beat Tyrone. We really should have been picking up a point or two against Galway and we're clear favourites for the drop. We only have Tyrone and Derry at home and need to be trying to get something from both games.
The thing is that Monaghan are probably a good bit better than last year - we have a bit more depth on the bench and we've sorted the old over reliance on Freeman up front, but there really is a massive step up from Division 2 to Division 1.
Agreed, to be honest to look at things right now McManus has taken over the mantle of the county's top forward from Tommy, though I would expect Tommy to be a good bit better towards the end of the league and the start of the championship. It's not because of a decline of Tommy so much as the rise of McManus. If they are both flying then, along with Finlay and a fully fit Woods, we have an alright forward line.
Of the (young)newcomers I think Malone and Greenan particularly have impressed. I've seen Greenan all through the grades and always knew he would make a county senior, and his showings so far have been satisfactory of a 20 year old newcomer. And Malone has been very impressive also, works hard and adds alot to the forward line.
Tyrone will be very tough. To be honest, to stay up I think we'd have had to pick up a few points by now, so it's a very tough job now.
Tyrone, like kerry dont give two shites about the league, that said they will not want to be relegated and will finally show up against Monaghan and this will be a spirited encounter with both teams really needing the points. Monaghan have been somewhat unlucky thus far and Grimley will have the players jacked up for this game.
Prediction. Score draw. ;)
It's a few weeks away but looking forward to this much more than our first 2 leagues games. Its a must win game in terms of the league for both teams and should be played in front of a packed ground. Tyrone should also have quite a few players back for this one and with a few more weeks training done would expect a much improved performance. Would like to see the team shaken up a bit for this and depending on availabiliy something like this would be good:
McConnell
McCarron (is he injured at minute)
Joe McMahon
Carlin
O'Neill
Gormley
Ricey
Justy McMahon
C Cavanagh
S Cavanagh (if available)
Mulgrew
Penrose
McCusker
Cassidy
Mulligan
Anyone know what the story is with Gourley, PJ or Cathal McCarron? I'm guessing they're all injured.
Will Joe Mc Mahon be appealing his red card ???
I'm guessing he will, might not do him any good though.
Quickest way from Lurgan to Inniskeen?
Quote from: tyroneman on February 17, 2010, 06:44:04 AM
Quickest way from Lurgan to Inniskeen?
Newry - Forkhill - Hackballscross - Inniskeen. Less likely to get lost going A1/ M1 to Dundalk - turn off for Crossmaglen/ Castleblayney - Hackballscross - Inniskeen.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on February 16, 2010, 10:13:29 PM
I'm guessing he will, might not do him any good though.
As far as I know Tyrone aren't appealing for any of the 3 red cards. There was a hearing but don't think any appeal has been made. Little point given the upcoming break.
Harte and CB are sitting waiting to see how the TV coverage and suspensions pan out for the rest of the league as a whole. Yesterdays media coverage stepped things up a notch.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on February 16, 2010, 07:13:01 PM
It's a few weeks away but looking forward to this much more than our first 2 leagues games. Its a must win game in terms of the league for both teams and should be played in front of a packed ground. Tyrone should also have quite a few players back for this one and with a few more weeks training done would expect a much improved performance. Would like to see the team shaken up a bit for this and depending on availabiliy something like this would be good:
McConnell
McCarron (is he injured at minute)
Joe McMahon
Carlin
O'Neill
Gormley
Ricey
Justy McMahon
C Cavanagh
S Cavanagh (if available)
Mulgrew
Penrose
McCusker
Cassidy
Mulligan
Anyone know what the story is with Gourley, PJ or Cathal McCarron? I'm guessing they're all injured.
not sure about gourley, quinn is injured & mccarron is 'unavailable'
Was hoping Cathal McCarron would get a go in the back line during the league. Good club and underage county player. Hasn't really had an opportunity yet. Is he due back soon?
inniskeen near everywhere but hard to find. from lurgan head for blaney get on n2 as far as carrickmacross and take the dundalk road off the bypass you'll come to a skew bridge and a pub literally in the middle of the rd 'kellys of essexford' inniskeen is signposted about 3km from there the field is on that road you wont miss it. best club ground in ireland bar none
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on February 17, 2010, 09:29:35 PM
Was hoping Cathal McCarron would get a go in the back line during the league. Good club and underage county player. Hasn't really had an opportunity yet. Is he due back soon?
Don't think that we'll be seeing Cathal in a Tyrone jersey anytime soon unfortunately.
This will be an all ticket match.
Quote from: Monaghan_Ultra on February 24, 2010, 10:02:01 PM
This will be an all ticket match.
::) How many does Inniskeen hold?
its hard to say how many supporters could fit into inniskeen holds tyrone v monaghan will be the biggest crowd puller to date i think. at a wild guess 5 or 6 thousand
i heard that the grattans are'nt too happy with the bucks on offer from the county board for the use of the field. it'd be a long time payin for a prunty pitch sooner they get out the better tight b's
5,000 is the provisional number, to be confirmed on friday
Quote from: lawnseed on February 24, 2010, 10:26:10 PM
i heard that the grattans are'nt too happy with the bucks on offer from the county board for the use of the field. it'd be a long time payin for a prunty pitch sooner they get out the better tight b's
I'd say there are set guidelines in relation to the rental paid for the use of club grounds in NFL games.
i think there are guidelines ultra. but if you've been to gratten pk its hell of a set up the money on offer so far wouldnt pay the electric bill maybe this tyrone game will get the club a few quid they like all clubs need every penny
Quote from: lawnseed on February 24, 2010, 10:46:56 PM
i think there are guidelines ultra. but if you've been to gratten pk its hell of a set up the money on offer so far would pay the electric bill maybe this tyrone game will get the club a few quid they like all clubs need every penny
Yes i have been to Grattan Park on many occasions since it's development and the county team have played many games there in an obvious attempt to help the club with their fundraising efforts. It is a bit unfair to be accusing the county board of being 'tight b's', Inniskeen Grattans will be paid at the same rate as other clubs have been for hosting NFL games. It can not be expected that they pay different rates to different clubs.
maybe they're panicing? credit crunch? emigration? unemployment rising? its a pity the guidelines dont reflect the investment by a small rural community when so much money is available to pay the 'expenses' of coaches, managers etc ;) ;)
Quote from: lawnseed on February 24, 2010, 11:23:30 PM
maybe they're panicing? credit crunch? emigration? unemployment rising? its a pity the guidelines dont reflect the investment by a small rural community when so much money is available to pay the 'expenses' of coaches, managers etc ;) ;)
It sounds like you would in favour of some sort of bail out ;). Every club would love to receive greater financial assistance from county boards etc. but the reality is that they can not set the precedant of being more favourable to certain clubs in this regard. Inniskeen have a fantastic set up, one of the best in Ulster and the county board have scheduled a lot of challenge games and McKenna cup games there that have attracted large crowds and are now giving them their first national league game which will undoubtedly bring in a full house and result in the potential to raise additional revenue through shops, draws etc. Clubs who embark on ambitious projects such as Inniskeen have to be able to stand on their own 2 feet, if they receive preferable treatment other clubs will be expecting similar and this is not a situation that can be sustained into the future.
Quote from: Monaghan_Ultra on February 24, 2010, 10:02:01 PM
This will be an all ticket match.
In my experience, when tickets are involved for non-finals, it will not sell out. It puts people off as a lot of people prefer to decide on the day of a game if they will attend or not.
If, as i expect, they do not sell out, there should be good information leading up to the game detailing quantity of tickets that will be available at the gate.
Sure the cameras will be there to keep an eye on everybody anyway and sure they might even show the match on TG4 as well.
What was the outcome of McMahon's appeal on his red card v Mayo?
Still suspended I think.
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 25, 2010, 03:29:58 PM
What was the outcome of McMahon's appeal on his red card v Mayo?
Tyrone player Joe McMahon loses Mayo red card appeal
Jimmy White gave McMahon a straight red card in the Healy Park game
Tyrone player Joe McMahon has failed in his attempt to overturn the straight red card he received in the Allianz NFL game against Mayo.
The Tyrone player's appeal against the sending off was heard at Croke Park on Tuesday night.
Tyrone had been confident about McMahon's prospects after insisting that there was "minimal contact" between the player and Peadar Gardiner.
McMahon will now miss the NFL games against Monaghan and Cork.
Tyrone are believed to be unlikely to launch any further appeals.
The versatile McMahon was shown a straight red card in the closing moment of 70th minute of the defeat against Mayo.
Tyrone manager Mickey Harte believed that parallels could be drawn with Diarmaid Marsden's dismissal in the 2003 All-Ireland final, which was later rescinded.
However, the disciplinary committee decided otherwise so McMahon will miss Tyrone's next two NFL games.
Martin Penrose, Conor Gormley and Justin McMahon will be available for the Iniskeen game after being suspended for the Mayo clash.
Sean Cavanagh (ankle) and Brian Dooher (groin) could also be in contention for a place on the bench in the 7 March game.
However, Stephen O'Neill (broken elbow) and Philip Jordan (hip surgery) will remain unavailable for the Monaghan match because of injury.
What size is the seated area in Inniskeen?
That's unreal that he didn't get off for that incident.
I haven't read all the stuff that was posted on here about it but you would imagine that the ref would look at the incident and say he got it wrong.
I presume nothing happened the Mayo forward Ronaldson for elbowing poor Ricey
Of course they're not out to get us
Of course we're just paranoid Nordies.
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 25, 2010, 03:57:48 PM
What size is the seated area in Inniskeen?
i heard it was 1500
I think I remember hearing it's deferred on TG4
Correct Fuzzman, Joe's red should have been recinded, 'twas exactly the same as Marsden's who's red was dropped.
The Mayo forward, Ronaldson, was suspended retrospectively (four weeks).
The capacity of Pairc Grattan Inniskeen has been set at 3,700!
Is Mickey Harte's eternal great white hope Mulgrew back for this game? If he doesn't make it this year he may give up cos he seems to be the perennial 'nearly' man. Even the great goal against Donegal in 2007 couldn't push him on.
I think Mulgrew will produce this year and at the moment colm cava could be a better bet than Hub. Any sign of a team sheet or is Mickey still stateside. What times throw up? Tommy Freeman could be the next Martin Penrose!!
Quote from: Monaghan_Ultra on February 26, 2010, 08:35:13 PM
The capacity of Pairc Grattan Inniskeen has been set at 3,700!
That's ridiculous! If the ground doesn't have the capacity, it shouldn't be used.
Quote from: rrhf on February 27, 2010, 09:21:41 AM
I think Mulgrew will produce this year and at the moment colm cava could be a better bet than Hub. Any sign of a team sheet or is Mickey still stateside. What times throw up? Tommy Freeman could be the next Martin Penrose!!
wont have the team until next Thursday night
Feck Im out of touch - I thought she was this weekend.
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 27, 2010, 11:05:28 AM
Quote from: Monaghan_Ultra on February 26, 2010, 08:35:13 PM
The capacity of Pairc Grattan Inniskeen has been set at 3,700!
That's ridiculous! If the ground doesn't have the capacity, it shouldn't be used.
When Armagh played there I thought it looked near as big as Cross which holds 10,000. Can't believe Inniskeen's capacity is near a third of that. Somebody is being very cautious with the health & safety it seems.
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 27, 2010, 11:05:28 AM
Quote from: Monaghan_Ultra on February 26, 2010, 08:35:13 PM
The capacity of Pairc Grattan Inniskeen has been set at 3,700!
That's ridiculous! If the ground doesn't have the capacity, it shouldn't be used.
With Clones out of the picture for the time being, do Monaghan have any other options? Is Scotstown any bigger?
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 27, 2010, 03:30:00 PM
When Armagh played there I thought it looked near as big as Cross which holds 10,000. Can't believe Inniskeen's capacity is near a third of that. Somebody is being very cautious with the health & safety it seems.
Didn't look to be a lot of room at either end of the pitch nor to the sides of the stand, these areas weren't raised either so I doubt they could accommodate many. The terraced area opposite the stand looked fairly shallow too.
I would have imagined you could have got 5-6,000 into inniskeen. Obviously some lunatic from h&s has got his hitler way
Posted this on another thread so apologies if you have already read it.
Does anyone know what the story is with Season Tickets when the game is all-ticket like Tyrone and Monaghan this weekend?
Do we get sent out an actual ticket or is the season ticket just scanned on entry as usual?
Thanks
Got emailed this info from the county board:
The GAA National Infra Structure Committee inspected Pairc Grattan,
Innskeen and have decided that the Allianz Football League game
Monaghan v. Tyrone will be an all ticket affair.
They also advised that it should be played as a single game fixture.
For your information.
A limited capacity has been advised for the venue.
Everybody who enters ground needs a ticket. No ticket - No admission.
The stand seats will not be reserved. First come first served basis.
Ticket allocation will depend on orders. Prices: Adult €13. Juvenile €5.
So it looks like season ticket holders wont be guarenteed a seat for this, so if you want one badly enough, arrive early.
We have been informed this afternoon that the NFL fixture Tír Eoghain / Muineachán on Sunday 7th March will be an all-ticket event in Inniskeen.
As the number of tickets being made available to the county is extremely small, there will only be a maximum of 15 tickets on offer to each Club.
Adult tickets (for the Stand and Terraces) are priced at €13.00 or £12.00
Juvenile tickets (for the Stand and Terraces) are priced at €5.00 or £4.50
Season ticket holders will not be guaranteed admission to the seated stand, and admission to all areas of the ground will be on a first-come basis.
I wonder what the Monaghan/Tyrone ticket ratio will be? It'll be a good atmosphere anyhow..
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 02, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
I wonder what the Monaghan/Tyrone ticket ratio will be? It'll be a good atmosphere anyhow..
It could have been, but if the allowed capacity is a couple of thousand less that the actual capacity, a lot of potential atmosphere will be lost.
I see Tyrone are complaining about having to travel the whole way to Inniskeen.
Wouldnt mind that. Tyrone whinge about everything.
Aughnacloy to Clones about 40mins
Aughnacloy to Inniskeen about 55mins
15 mins extra drive. big bl0ody deal.
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 02, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 02, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
I wonder what the Monaghan/Tyrone ticket ratio will be? It'll be a good atmosphere anyhow..
It could have been, but if the allowed capacity is a couple of thousand less that the actual capacity, a lot of potential atmosphere will be lost.
I see Tyrone are complaining about having to travel the whole way to Inniskeen.
Were did you see that? Haven't heard any complaints and am quite happy to go to Inniskeen. People in most counties usuallly find some complaints about venues so wouldn't be suprised. Pity about it having to be all ticket though. May not even sell out if one's can't be bothered looking for tickets. Tyrone have a fair few season ticket holders though.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on March 02, 2010, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 02, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 02, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
I wonder what the Monaghan/Tyrone ticket ratio will be? It'll be a good atmosphere anyhow..
It could have been, but if the allowed capacity is a couple of thousand less that the actual capacity, a lot of potential atmosphere will be lost.
I see Tyrone are complaining about having to travel the whole way to Inniskeen.
Were did you see that? Haven't heard any complaints and am quite happy to go to Inniskeen. People in most counties usuallly find some complaints about venues so wouldn't be suprised. Pity about it having to be all ticket though. May not even sell out if one's can't be bothered looking for tickets. Tyrone have a fair few season ticket holders though.
Tyrone's county board chairman is the one complaining:
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124793
The set capacity is a joke, it can hold alot more than that but they've really gone overboard with the health and safety.
Just saw it on hoganstand. Suprised Tyrone are complaining, dont see how its Tyrone's business were about's in Monaghan the game is played. That would be a bit like Armagh complaining if we played them in Omagh instead off Dungannon. Maybe they would have a right to question the standard of the ground if it was poor but not the location.
Quote from: Schkite on March 02, 2010, 07:49:59 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on March 02, 2010, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 02, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 02, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
I wonder what the Monaghan/Tyrone ticket ratio will be? It'll be a good atmosphere anyhow..
It could have been, but if the allowed capacity is a couple of thousand less that the actual capacity, a lot of potential atmosphere will be lost.
I see Tyrone are complaining about having to travel the whole way to Inniskeen.
Were did you see that? Haven't heard any complaints and am quite happy to go to Inniskeen. People in most counties usuallly find some complaints about venues so wouldn't be suprised. Pity about it having to be all ticket though. May not even sell out if one's can't be bothered looking for tickets. Tyrone have a fair few season ticket holders though.
Tyrone's county board chairman is the one complaining:
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124793
The set capacity is a joke, it can hold alot more than that but they've really gone overboard with the health and safety.
Dominic McCaughney is not the county chairman
Quote from: tyronefan on March 02, 2010, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on March 02, 2010, 07:49:59 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on March 02, 2010, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 02, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 02, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
I wonder what the Monaghan/Tyrone ticket ratio will be? It'll be a good atmosphere anyhow..
It could have been, but if the allowed capacity is a couple of thousand less that the actual capacity, a lot of potential atmosphere will be lost.
I see Tyrone are complaining about having to travel the whole way to Inniskeen.
Were did you see that? Haven't heard any complaints and am quite happy to go to Inniskeen. People in most counties usuallly find some complaints about venues so wouldn't be suprised. Pity about it having to be all ticket though. May not even sell out if one's can't be bothered looking for tickets. Tyrone have a fair few season ticket holders though.
Tyrone's county board chairman is the one complaining:
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124793
The set capacity is a joke, it can hold alot more than that but they've really gone overboard with the health and safety.
Dominic McCaughney is not the county chairman
Ah right, just quoting the article.
Kind of ironic when the Tyrone manager wants to traipse us away to Croke Park for our home fixture against the Dubs.
Good point Fox,i just think that sometimes our officials would be well advised to stay quiet on matters,it's up to Monaghan to play the game wherever they want.
Tyrone team to play Monaghan in the NFL Division 1 on Sunday 7 March, 2.30pm at Inniskeen:
J Curran, D Carlin, J McMahon, S O'Neill, D Harte, C Gormley, R McMenamin, A Cassidy, K Hughes, C Cavanagh, B McGuigan, R Mulgrew, T McGuigan, M Penrose, O Mulligan.
Quote from: ziggysego on March 04, 2010, 08:49:21 PM
Tyrone team to play Monaghan in the NFL Division 1 on Sunday 7 March, 2.30pm at Inniskeen:
J Curran, D Carlin, J McMahon, S O'Neill, D Harte, C Gormley, R McMenamin, A Cassidy, K Hughes, C Cavanagh, B McGuigan, R Mulgrew, T McGuigan, M Penrose, O Mulligan.
Interesting... strong enough.
Probably not a great place for the likes of raymie Mulgrew to be trying to stake a claim for a place. This game will probably be a low scoring dour encounter, and to be honest doesnt really suit that type of player, but maybe thats why Harte hasnt been falling in love with him recently, perhaps this is the acid test?
Quote from: cadhlancian on March 04, 2010, 09:17:13 PM
Probably not a great place for the likes of raymie Mulgrew to be trying to stake a claim for a place. This game will probably be a low scoring dour encounter, and to be honest doesnt really suit that type of player, but maybe thats why Harte hasnt been falling in love with him recently, perhaps this is the acid test?
I wouldn't bet on it. Monaghan currently have both the best scoring record and the worst defensive record in Division 1!
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 04, 2010, 09:49:11 PM
Quote from: cadhlancian on March 04, 2010, 09:17:13 PM
Probably not a great place for the likes of raymie Mulgrew to be trying to stake a claim for a place. This game will probably be a low scoring dour encounter, and to be honest doesnt really suit that type of player, but maybe thats why Harte hasnt been falling in love with him recently, perhaps this is the acid test?
I wouldn't bet on it. Monaghan currently have both the best scoring record and the worst defensive record in Division 1!
Looking forward to it and would expect a good game. Both teams need the points already so should be going all out for a win. Think it will be a high enough scoring game as well. What's Inniskeen like as venue? I'm guessing it will sell out although haven't heard much talk of tickets. Did Finlay get a straight red or 2 yellows in the last game?
2 yellows.
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 04, 2010, 09:49:11 PM
Quote from: cadhlancian on March 04, 2010, 09:17:13 PM
Probably not a great place for the likes of raymie Mulgrew to be trying to stake a claim for a place. This game will probably be a low scoring dour encounter, and to be honest doesnt really suit that type of player, but maybe thats why Harte hasnt been falling in love with him recently, perhaps this is the acid test?
I wouldn't bet on it. Monaghan currently have both the best scoring record and the worst defensive record in Division 1!
Hopefully Dessie Mone's return will improve that statistic slightly...?!
Quote from: Schkite on March 02, 2010, 07:49:59 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on March 02, 2010, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 02, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 02, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
I wonder what the Monaghan/Tyrone ticket ratio will be? It'll be a good atmosphere anyhow..
It could have been, but if the allowed capacity is a couple of thousand less that the actual capacity, a lot of potential atmosphere will be lost.
I see Tyrone are complaining about having to travel the whole way to Inniskeen.
Were did you see that? Haven't heard any complaints and am quite happy to go to Inniskeen. People in most counties usuallly find some complaints about venues so wouldn't be suprised. Pity about it having to be all ticket though. May not even sell out if one's can't be bothered looking for tickets. Tyrone have a fair few season ticket holders though.
Tyrone's county board chairman is the one complaining:
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124793
The set capacity is a joke, it can hold alot more than that but they've really gone overboard with the health and safety.
How many can it hold then? Are you going by someone who said it looked near as big as cross which can hold 10,000? ::)
I'd imagine theres a set measurement for capacity, for eg 1m sq per person, its unlikely the H&S people in Iniskeen are more zealous than those elsewhere...
Quote from: haranguerer on March 05, 2010, 12:54:06 PM
Quote from: Schkite on March 02, 2010, 07:49:59 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on March 02, 2010, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 02, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 02, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
I wonder what the Monaghan/Tyrone ticket ratio will be? It'll be a good atmosphere anyhow..
It could have been, but if the allowed capacity is a couple of thousand less that the actual capacity, a lot of potential atmosphere will be lost.
I see Tyrone are complaining about having to travel the whole way to Inniskeen.
Were did you see that? Haven't heard any complaints and am quite happy to go to Inniskeen. People in most counties usuallly find some complaints about venues so wouldn't be suprised. Pity about it having to be all ticket though. May not even sell out if one's can't be bothered looking for tickets. Tyrone have a fair few season ticket holders though.
Tyrone's county board chairman is the one complaining:
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124793
The set capacity is a joke, it can hold alot more than that but they've really gone overboard with the health and safety.
How many can it hold then? Are you going by someone who said it looked near as big as cross which can hold 10,000? ::)
I'd imagine theres a set measurement for capacity, for eg 1m sq per person, its unlikely the H&S people in Iniskeen are more zealous than those elsewhere...
Eh, where did I refer to the capacity of Cross? That's irrelevant. I just know from being at games there that it can hold more than that. And for some reason the H&S people have been a bit over-zealous for this game than others, for example if the ground in Scotstown had been put under the same scrutiny I'm sure it wouldn't have been allowed to hold the amount it has for recent league games, especially if it's mainly based on area as you imagine.
Could the infrastructure around Inniskeen have had a baring on the set capacity? The pitch is on a wee country road in the middle of nowhere.
Someone else mentioned Cross; it was only after that post that others started questioning the capacity. How many have you seen Iniskeen hold? Just out of interest too, how many have been at the league games in Scotstown?
Inniskeen has the stand on one side but either side of the stand is just flat ground which had it been sloped would have increase the capacity another bit. Behind both goals is flat also, again losing out on the potential for a bigger attendance. So although croke park have probably overdone the safety factors there is a lot of wasted space around inniskeen grounds (as good and all as they are)
lads and lassies...........any chance of some talk/posts about the fecking game!!!! >:( Who gives a feck, how many they let in.Jeeeeeeeeeeez
Quote from: cadhlancian on March 05, 2010, 03:41:30 PM
lads and lassies...........any chance of some talk/posts about the fecking game!!!! >:( Who gives a feck, how many they let in.Jeeeeeeeeeeez
So do any of you's know any good spaces to park the car up? ;)
Is this game on TG4 deferred on Sunday?
I hope after this break there is a pick up in performance and scores
I'll be watching our free takers again as I think this is still a major problem for Tyrone as we kick a good 5 or 6 away each game.
Tommy can be very hot or cold in my eyes and will be interesting to see how Cookstown lads settle in again.
Mugsy doesn't normally do well in the heavy pitches in the league finding it hard to shake off his man.
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Quote from: cadhlancian on March 05, 2010, 03:41:30 PM
lads and lassies...........any chance of some talk/posts about the fecking game!!!! >:( Who gives a feck, how many they let in.Jeeeeeeeeeeez
So do any of you's know any good spaces to park the car up? ;)
lol! ;D
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 05, 2010, 03:54:54 PM
Mugsy doesn't normally do well in the heavy pitches in the league finding it hard to shake off his man.
I haven't Mugsy but I'd like to think he has been playing enough football this last few months to have him in good condition, he hasn't had much of a chance to slack off this year.
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I wonder what the Monaghan/Tyrone ticket ratio will be? It'll be a good atmosphere anyhow..
It could have been, but if the allowed capacity is a couple of thousand less that the actual capacity, a lot of potential atmosphere will be lost.
I see Tyrone are complaining about having to travel the whole way to Inniskeen.
Were did you see that? Haven't heard any complaints and am quite happy to go to Inniskeen. People in most counties usuallly find some complaints about venues so wouldn't be suprised. Pity about it having to be all ticket though. May not even sell out if one's can't be bothered looking for tickets. Tyrone have a fair few season ticket holders though.
Tyrone's county board chairman is the one complaining:
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124793
The set capacity is a joke, it can hold alot more than that but they've really gone overboard with the health and safety.
How many can it hold then? Are you going by someone who said it looked near as big as cross which can hold 10,000? ::)
I'd imagine theres a set measurement for capacity, for eg 1m sq per person, its unlikely the H&S people in Iniskeen are more zealous than those elsewhere...
It's not Inniskeen H&S - it's Croke Park's decision.
Not much demand for tickets in Tyrone anyway
Quote from: tyrone86 on March 05, 2010, 10:20:41 PM
Not much demand for tickets in Tyrone anyway
The same fans who criticise Kerry one's for not going to matches. Was a poor enough turnout compared to previous years at Mayo game to.
Have Tyrone released a list of subs for Sunday?
Quote from: tyrone86 on March 05, 2010, 10:20:41 PM
Not much demand for tickets in Tyrone anyway
My aunty is a secretary for a club in Monaghan and told me they've received a good lot of tickets back from Tyrone...perhaps with all this talk of small capacity not many went bother looking thinking they would have no chance of getting one or perhaps there's a small touch of apathy surrounding the poor start to the league?
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Quote from: tyrone86 on March 05, 2010, 10:20:41 PM
Not much demand for tickets in Tyrone anyway
My aunty is a secretary for a club in Monaghan and told me they've received a good lot of tickets back from Tyrone...perhaps with all this talk of small capacity not many went bother looking thinking they would have no chance of getting one or perhaps there's a small touch of apathy surrounding the poor start to the league?
think is isnt far from the truth...
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Quote from: tyrone86 on March 05, 2010, 10:20:41 PM
Not much demand for tickets in Tyrone anyway
My aunty is a secretary for a club in Monaghan and told me they've received a good lot of tickets back from Tyrone...perhaps with all this talk of small capacity not many went bother looking thinking they would have no chance of getting one or perhaps there's a small touch of apathy surrounding the poor start to the league?
Yeah got a text from our PRO last night telling me that tickets returned from Tyrone would be on sale in Cloghan from 10am - 12:30 and other usual places round the county.
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Quote from: omagh_gael on March 05, 2010, 11:11:10 PM
Quote from: tyrone86 on March 05, 2010, 10:20:41 PM
Not much demand for tickets in Tyrone anyway
My aunty is a secretary for a club in Monaghan and told me they've received a good lot of tickets back from Tyrone...perhaps with all this talk of small capacity not many went bother looking thinking they would have no chance of getting one or perhaps there's a small touch of apathy surrounding the poor start to the league?
Yeah got a text from our PRO last night telling me that tickets returned from Tyrone would be on sale in Cloghan from 10am - 12:30 and other usual places round the county.
Tickets on sale for Monaghan v Tyrone
05 March 2010
The GAA has confirmed that a limited number of tickets for Sunday's Allianz League Football meeting of Monaghan and Tyrone in Iniskeen have been placed on general sale.
These tickets are available from ticketmaster and from McConnon's Shop Old Cross Square Monaghan Town and Loughman's Sports Glencarn Castleblaney.
There will be no tickets on sale at the ground on the day of the game.
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124966
We'll have the lion's share of the support by the look of it.
Tyrone lose this and the games against Kerry, Dublin, Cork and Galway will be humdingers.
7 defeats would be some craic too.
has Monaghan named their team yet
Any truth in the rumour that the CCCC are sending James Cameron along to Inniskeen to co-ordinate the filming of the game? Just to be scrupulously fair like.
After all their crying, anyone here Peter Canavan on the last word on today fm yesterday what a yap, 400 tickets returned from Tyrone.
There'll still be a big away support with Tyrones 750 season ticket holders.
Anyone got directions to the pitch and where to park?
No harm to Inniskeen, they've made a good job of their ground and mean no disrespect (and the admission or capacity is not their doing), but aside from the stand (what's the capacity?) Paying £12 to stand around a pitch at ground level is just asking too much. Don't think that stand will take a big chunk out of 3,700, should all the tickets sell.
(http://clubdir.gaa.ie/monaghan/iniskeen/images/DSCF0596.JPG)
Coupled with the deferred coverage and unfamiliarity factor, and probably the current form, it's not surprising the tickets weren't selling as well in Tyrone.
Would be worried once again about the Tyrone fwd line. Half forward in particular looks weak on form. CC fielded well against Mayo, but i'm thinking in terms of score taking. Hopefully Mugsy will ease the pressure on Penrose and allow the FF line to start chipping them over.
Quote from: sandwiches_in_the_boot on March 06, 2010, 05:10:12 PM
No harm to Inniskeen, they've made a good job of their ground and mean no disrespect (and the admission or capacity is not their doing), but aside from the stand (what's the capacity?) Paying £12 to stand around a pitch at ground level is just asking too much. Don't think that stand will take a big chunk out of 3,700, should all the tickets sell.
There's some terracing on the other side as well:
(http://clubdir.gaa.ie/monaghan/iniskeen/images/DSCF0616.JPG)
Looks to be a good set up alrite,fair play to that club,can see tyrone winning tomorrow i have to say tho
Fantastic looking club ground, very tidy indeed. Grattans should be proud.
But its like Tyrone playing their games in Pomeroy. Is that terracing? are there actually steps. Looks like two over zealous dug outs. But obviously its unusual circumstances for Monaghan and that has to be respected.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 06, 2010, 12:41:19 PM
Any truth in the rumour that the CCCC are sending James Cameron along to Inniskeen to co-ordinate the filming of the game? Just to be scrupulously fair like.
:D :D I'll bring my 3-D glasses just in case.
Quote from: sandwiches_in_the_boot on March 06, 2010, 05:10:12 PM
No harm to Inniskeen, they've made a good job of their ground and mean no disrespect (and the admission or capacity is not their doing), but aside from the stand (what's the capacity?) Paying £12 to stand around a pitch at ground level is just asking too much. Don't think that stand will take a big chunk out of 3,700, should all the tickets sell.
(http://clubdir.gaa.ie/monaghan/iniskeen/images/DSCF0596.JPG)
Coupled with the deferred coverage and unfamiliarity factor, and probably the current form, it's not surprising the tickets weren't selling as well in Tyrone.
Would be worried once again about the Tyrone fwd line. Half forward in particular looks weak on form. CC fielded well against Mayo, but i'm thinking in terms of score taking. Hopefully Mugsy will ease the pressure on Penrose and allow the FF line to start chipping them over.
Did they get the seats for Mayo's new stand by mistake :D Fantastic looking club ground.
Nice ground but piss poor photography.
The stony grey sky looms over Inniskeen.
has anyone got a link for the game??
www.q101west.fm has it on.
Paddy Hunter assisted by todays expert alan rodgers
tyrone and Kerry are fecked!
Full time Monaghan 1-14 Tyrone 0-16! Hectic finish, a priceless win for Monaghan
just listening to that on the radio, 3 mins of added time they said, yet he blew her up at exactly the 3 mins, 4 frees and 2 sendings off in injury time?
Aidan Cassidy looked to have a good game, a lone furrow in midfield.
Colm Cavanagh missed some goal chance when it was 12 all.
Conor Gormley badly lost the ball for the Freeman goal.
Quote from: cadhlancian on March 07, 2010, 04:08:12 PM
just listening to that on the radio, 3 mins of added time they said, yet he blew her up at exactly the 3 mins, 4 frees and 2 sendings off in injury time?
One can only agree after watching it there. There ahould have been another 1-2 min played and Tyrone deserved a draw overall. Even Mickey Harte was annoyed.
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The size of Rory Woods' tits... :o
Ah leave him alone.
He's still carrying a bit of Christmas weight.
From Christmas 2008!
On watching this game the name of Aha came to mind...The Sun always shines on tv, though Tyrone didn't. After seven years of terror I think we can say that puke football is dead, and a stake should be driven through its heart, and the creator M Harte should be incarcerated for life, lest he even think of creating another monster
Great result for Monaghan, despite not playing particularly well. I'd have Clerkin as Monaghan's Man of the Match. Both Finlay and Woods could probably have gone for goals at the end, but both played it safe and in the end it was enough.
Just in from game and bitterly disappointed. Initial thoughts: Curran is a liability (not as much as the Mon keeper though!). Hub and Cass may be a decent enough pairing. Cass was immense in 2nd half. Hub same in 1st. Gormley cost us the game with his moment of madness. Equally I can't understand going for point with last kick. Mulgrew had some nice tocuhes but doesn't want to know about dirty ball. Overall we just didn't do enough up front and missed too many scoreable chances.
Someone said there was a big interview with Cavanagh in one of the Sunday papers? Him and Harte clearing the air?
There was about a minute wasted while the ref stopped play.
Final whistle was blown after 3 mins 45secs of added time. I suppose the ref could have waited another 30 seconds until Shane Duffy found the ball, placed it, walked back slowly and kicked it out.
Nice to have a win at last after a good finish.
Sound decisions by Finlay and Woods to take the last points and a great free by McManus.
Vinny Corey put a new meaning to the 'nutmeg'.
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His belly an tits are nearly as big as the woman i seen him with in Behans New York last summer!!
Tell you what big Dick sure knows how to go to ground. You would know the Oscars are around the corner alright!
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His belly an tits are nearly as big as the woman i seen him with in Behans New York last summer!!
Rule 2 lads.
Regarding the capacity, there were 3,654 at the game and it was pretty full. There's no way the place could hold some of the numbers people were throwing out earlier in the thread.
Also noticed the tri-lingual sign on the mens toilet: Gents/Fír/Homme!
Quote from: tyroneman on March 07, 2010, 06:02:54 PM
Just in from game and bitterly disappointed. Initial thoughts: Curran is a liability (not as much as the Mon keeper though!).
Too right. Gave away at least 2 points, maybe 3.
Tyrone have lost the last two league games by a point whilst attacking both times in injury time.
You get the feeling their luck will change and Cork are up next in Omagh this Saturday.
Jees! that Dick Clerkin is a tight lump of a man. While Mr Fearon is being his usual vindicive self, i do wonder is that Tyrone and All Irelands for a while. All that 1998 minor side is hitting 30 now and Ricey and Dooher are older. Can't keep going to that well forever. If it is a yaer or two to turn over a new team... it was the best to ever come out of Ulster.
Great program on TG4 (after the deferred coverage), about one of the great Irish legends, Patrick Street.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 07, 2010, 05:28:36 PM
Aidan Cassidy looked to have a good game, a lone furrow in midfield.
Colm Cavanagh missed some goal chance when it was 12 all.
Conor Gormley badly lost the ball for the Freeman goal.
To be fair for some reason Pernrose decided to run right across his path as he struck it.
Great set up at Inniskeen.
Thought Tyrone were well in control in 1st half until Gormley's bad mistake for the goal. Was scrappy enough 2nd half with not many scores coming from play. Monaghan seemed to want it more, but thought Tyrone deserved a draw and there should have been at least another minute played. Best for Tyrone was Cassidy with Carlin and Cavanagh showing well. Brian McGuigan was also good in 1st half bud faded in 2nd.
The ref was a complete clown, for both sides. Some baffling decisions.
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on March 07, 2010, 07:50:27 PM
Great set up at Inniskeen.
Thought Tyrone were well in control in 1st half until Gormley's bad mistake for the goal. Was scrappy enough 2nd half with not many scores coming from play. Monaghan seemed to want it more, but thought Tyrone deserved a draw and there should have been at least another minute played. Best for Tyrone was Cassidy with Carlin and Cavanagh showing well. Brian McGuigan was also good in 1st half bud faded in 2nd.
The ref was a complete clown, for both sides. Some baffling decisions.
That would be Our Martin.
We promoted him into the intercounty set up so he would not have to referee any more club games in the county.
He was the worst ref I have seen in a good while. He blew for a square ball in 1st half, gave frees for hand passes then ignored them, gave handy free's for both teams for nothing offenses, when Tyrone were attacking in 1st half not 1 but 2 Tyrone players were fouled and he played on. He also let Banty intimidate him near the end when he gave a free for Tyrone and then over turned it to a Monaghan line ball.
What are these All-Ireland medals that he supposidly has?
You wern't far wrong. God know's how many games he has ruined now.
You were always told that the referee will never change his mind.
That is of course until Banty Mc Enaney ( Pat the top referee's brother ) throws a hissy fit in far, flung Iniskeen and with Tyrone on the attack, Higgins goes over and accedes to Banty's demands.
Fair play to the Banty - he tried it and made the referee change his mind for the first time ever !!!
Tyrone deserved a draw out of the game.
I'd be a wee bit concerned about Tyrone's defence. The half back line isn't making the inroads that we're used to.
Tyrone will get better. Sean Cavanagh and Stephen o'Neill to mention only two.
Were Monaghan falt out today ??
Started to see signs of things coming back into place again today. Fitness is slowly improving and in the first half Tyrone played their best football of the year. Gormley's error (or Freeman's quick thinking) turned the game. Thought Cassidy had a great game and is making some statement for the Championship. He made a couple of fine marks, unheard of in a Tyrone shirt.
Penrose was again the main outlet and if O'Neill can get fit again, they could form a dynamic duo.
Some fixtures now - Cork, Galway, Kerry and Dublin. 3 wins needed!!
I wonder will there ever be a game where Colm Cav puts in a full 70 instead of 10-15 min cameos???
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on March 07, 2010, 08:04:02 PM
He was the worst ref I have seen in a good while. He blew for a square ball in 1st half, gave frees for hand passes then ignored them, gave handy free's for both teams for nothing offenses, when Tyrone were attacking in 1st half not 1 but 2 Tyrone players were fouled and he played on. He also let Banty intimidate him near the end when he gave a free for Tyrone and then over turned it to a Monaghan line ball.
What are these All-Ireland medals that he supposidly has?
I have no idea. What would he have All Ireland medals for??
The only thing i can think of is Scor
Saying been changed from Fergie time to Mickey time, (if that`s not too rude) ;D
Did Tyrone return 900 tickets for the match ?
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Quote from: orangeman on March 07, 2010, 08:37:56 PM
You were always told that the referee will never change his mind.
That is of course until Banty Mc Enaney ( Pat the top referee's brother ) throws a hissy fit in far, flung Iniskeen and with Tyrone on the attack, Higgins goes over and accedes to Banty's demands.
Fair play to the Banty - he tried it and made the referee change his mind for the first time ever !!!
Tyrone deserved a draw out of the game.
I'd be a wee bit concerned about Tyrone's defence. The half back line isn't making the inroads that we're used to.
Tyrone will get better. Sean Cavanagh and Stephen o'Neill to mention only two.
Were Monaghan falt out today ??
To be fair to Banty he was entitled to throw a hissy-fit the linesman clearly flagged for a line ball to Monaghan before free was awarded to Tyrone.
Exactly, I was a few feet away from this and Banty was telling the ref to check with his linesman, as his linesman had raised the flag for a Monaghan line ball. So enough of the conspiracy theories.. The ref was an absolute muppet. I don't think he influnced the result, but he destroyed the game for both teams, muppet!
And finally, there was 3mins 45 secs played. I don't see a problem with that and don't think any more was necessary!
Ref was weak today - Banty intimidated him into changing his mind. The ref clearly inidicated a free for Tyrone until Banty and his minder, that big lad Grimley gave the ref sufficient stick to change his mind. Even if the linesman indicated a line ball or not, the ref always sticks by his decision - I like many others were amazed that he changed his mind.
So Mr. Higgins showed that he can indeed be influenced. So I'd say he'll be getting a lot more of it.
The ref just blew too many frees - blew for a square ball, missed a lot of "throwing" of the ball as shown by Bernard Flynn on TV. I don't mean to get into an argument with you, but given his display, I think it could reasonably be argued that he did indeed influence the result as there was the bare minimum between the sides.
That's not meant to take away from Monaghan's win at all by the way. Fair play to them.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 07, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
On watching this game the name of Aha came to mind...The Sun always shines on tv, though Tyrone didn't. After seven years of terror I think we can say that puke football is dead, and a stake should be driven through its heart, and the creator M Harte should be incarcerated for life, lest he even think of creating another monster
It died a few years ago and it's creator got condemned to Galway ;)
Cassidy was the one big positive for Tyrone today thought he had an excellent game. Was shocked after the Derry game that Curran got back in nets, always worry about his kickouts (to be fair quite a few worked today but as usual some didn't).
Defence is conceding to much. Gormley looks of the pace. Davy Harte continues to operate effectively as a spare man which is ok when things are going well but can leave you very exposed at the back.
McGinley came on today and again did very little - very quiet start to the season. Mulgrew doesn't do enough and doesn't look like he will make it. Colm Cavanagh plays well at times but can make mistakes - the criticism of him after Derry game was harsh. Still not convinced McGuigan has fitness for 70 minutes at county level any more. Penrose fumbled a lot of ball and Mugsy was in and out of it. If McCusker can find space he is well capable of taking scores.
Wouldn't be to concerned at this stage. There was some terrible performances in 2008 league and things worked out. People said then the hunger etc had gone. McMahon,Mellon,Jordan,Dooher,O'Neill and Cavanagh will make a big difference when come back.
Should have been more injury time considering the amount of stoppages in second half.
Tyrone got off light and fortunate to be so close at the end, either Finlay, or Woods, or both of them could/should have rocked the net.
QuoteBanty intimidated him into changing his mind
Ye Tyronies are mental, Banty is an utterly charming man and should be applauded for his good deed in bringing the attention of the ref to the linesman.
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Tyrone got off light and fortunate to be so close at the end, either Finlay, or Woods, or both of them could/should have rocked the net.
QuoteBanty intimidated him into changing his mind
Ye Tyronies are mental, Banty is an utterly charming man and should be applauded for his good deed in bringing the attention of the ref to the linesman.
I didn't say otherwise. In fact he's to be applauded for being the first manager in the history of the GAA to "persuade" a referee to change his mind. Brother Pat would be proud of him I'm sure.
He resembled one of those apes in the zoo when he bate the ground with his fists !! ;)
But no doubt he's an utterly charming man.
Fortress Gratton Pk.
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Agree with a lot of points made, particularly Aiden Cassidy's performance. I cant remember seeing the ball being plucked from the sky so much by a tyrone jersey, particularly good catch in his own square early in 2nd period! Some strong running and seems to be laying off the ball a lot more.
As mentioned already, game turned on Gormley's mistake/Freemans tackle. We were well on top and that knocked the stuffing out of us right before half time.
Ref was a bit of an eejit, it's so frustrating to see really obvious decisions being missed/blown up so inconsistently. At times three men tackles were being let go only for another man to touch someone as they fell and being blown up. On a side note, was funny seeing Corey get booked for kicking the ball of the tee, first time i seen that!
Overall Tyrone are playing the way they have been over the last number of years at this stage. They play well in fits and starts without stringing full halves/games together, hopefully this improves as players return and fitness increases.
Finally, kudos to Inniskeen club on excellent facilities and superb playing surface. Some difference to Healy Park three weeks ago!
Is kicking the ball away a booking offence in GAA rulebook? Usually the ref just brings the ball forward but I suppose you can't move a kick out forward. But given that Corey did get a yellow, should the Tyrone player who threw the ball out over the wall in the 2nd half also received a yellow??
Anyway a good win for Monaghan. Clerkin played really well for the third league match in a row and bringing on young greenan and getting Darren Hughes out from full back (along with Conor Gormleys mess up) brought us into the game.
Will Tommy Freeman get a ban for his two yellows. Heard talk on the radio that he might due to the ban he served last season after the Derry match. Surely not.
Quote from: orangeman on March 07, 2010, 09:24:08 PM
The ref just blew too many frees - blew for a square ball,
Still not a square ball for dead ball situations?? That was my understanding. Think it was from a free too.
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Quote from: orangeman on March 07, 2010, 09:24:08 PM
The ref just blew too many frees - blew for a square ball,
Still not a square ball for dead ball situations?? That was my understanding. Think it was from a free too.
The square ball rule still exists. No attacking player is to be in the square when the free/pass in is taken. In yesterdays case, Monaghan players only entered the square after the kick was taken (conor mcmanus' freekick hung in the air for a considerable time), and no way should a square ball decision been given. Didnt monaghan score a goal from it too (albeit disallowed)?
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Quote from: upmonaghansayswe on March 08, 2010, 11:04:29 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 07, 2010, 09:24:08 PM
The ref just blew too many frees - blew for a square ball,
Still not a square ball for dead ball situations?? That was my understanding. Think it was from a free too.
The square ball rule still exists. No attacking player is to be in the square when the free/pass in is taken. In yesterdays case, Monaghan players only entered the square after the kick was taken (conor mcmanus' freekick hung in the air for a considerable time), and no way should a square ball decision been given. Didnt monaghan score a goal from it too (albeit disallowed)?
No
Have to say a draw would have been fair result yesterday. Not looking good for Tyrone so far they are routed to the bottom of the table with 0 points, they really need to get going. I suppose it better they don't hit form to early but if they get relegated it would be disastrous. When is Sean Cavanagh due back they really do miss a bit of leadership out on the pitch. Cassidy had a good game, as said earlier its nice to see a bit of good fielding for a change by the Tyrone team. Enough has been said about the ref, he was a joke.
Quote from: donelli on March 08, 2010, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: upmonaghansayswe on March 08, 2010, 11:04:29 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 07, 2010, 09:24:08 PM
The ref just blew too many frees - blew for a square ball,
Still not a square ball for dead ball situations?? That was my understanding. Think it was from a free too.
The square ball rule still exists. No attacking player is to be in the square when the free/pass in is taken. In yesterdays case, Monaghan players only entered the square after the kick was taken (conor mcmanus' freekick hung in the air for a considerable time), and no way should a square ball decision been given. Didnt monaghan score a goal from it too (albeit disallowed)?
Afaia it is still a square ball if a player enters the square before the ball from a free kick - or from any placed ball kick.
Quote from: Hereiam on March 08, 2010, 11:35:35 AM
Have to say a draw would have been fair result yesterday. Not looking good for Tyrone so far they are routed to the bottom of the table with 0 points, they really need to get going. I suppose it better they don't hit form to early but if they get relegated it would be disastrous. When is Sean Cavanagh due back they really do miss a bit of leadership out on the pitch. Cassidy had a good game, as said earlier its nice to see a bit of good fielding for a change by the Tyrone team. Enough has been said about the ref, he was a joke.
Would it really? I don't think it would make much difference. Sure competitive football in D1 is better but if you are playing with a team that does not resemble what will play in the Championship I don't think it matters that much.
a team that doesn't resemble our c'ship team. Your joking? aren't you. Apart from Canavagh, O'Neill & Mc Mahon who else was missing that would make a difference. Don't say Jordan, hes past his best as is Dooher. It was evident from last season these guys best days are gone, so lets not fool ourselves.
Quote from: Knock Yer Mucker In on March 08, 2010, 01:48:52 PM
a team that doesn't resemble our c'ship team. Your joking? aren't you. Apart from Canavagh, O'Neill & Mc Mahon who else was missing that would make a difference. Don't say Jordan, hes past his best as is Dooher. It was evident from last season these guys best days are gone, so lets not fool ourselves.
Harte's setting himself up again ;)
I wouldn't read into it too much..who reallys cares about the nfl ? U really believe colly cavnagh will touch leather in the summer ?
Quote from: EC Unique on March 08, 2010, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on March 08, 2010, 11:35:35 AM
Have to say a draw would have been fair result yesterday. Not looking good for Tyrone so far they are routed to the bottom of the table with 0 points, they really need to get going. I suppose it better they don't hit form to early but if they get relegated it would be disastrous. When is Sean Cavanagh due back they really do miss a bit of leadership out on the pitch. Cassidy had a good game, as said earlier its nice to see a bit of good fielding for a change by the Tyrone team. Enough has been said about the ref, he was a joke.
Would it really? I don't think it would make much difference. Sure competitive football in D1 is better but if you are playing with a team that does not resemble what will play in the Championship I don't think it matters that much.
Agreed.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 08, 2010, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 08, 2010, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on March 08, 2010, 11:35:35 AM
Have to say a draw would have been fair result yesterday. Not looking good for Tyrone so far they are routed to the bottom of the table with 0 points, they really need to get going. I suppose it better they don't hit form to early but if they get relegated it would be disastrous. When is Sean Cavanagh due back they really do miss a bit of leadership out on the pitch. Cassidy had a good game, as said earlier its nice to see a bit of good fielding for a change by the Tyrone team. Enough has been said about the ref, he was a joke.
Would it really? I don't think it would make much difference. Sure competitive football in D1 is better but if you are playing with a team that does not resemble what will play in the Championship I don't think it matters that much.
Agreed.
Relegation for Tyrone is not a disaster.
But that Tyrone team looked strong enough yesterday. Apart from 1 or 2 players, were they not all involved in last years AIQF/AISF?
Monaghan had 6 or 7 new players stepping in and getting good experience.
From Monaghan's perspective, the effect of the div1 experience remains to be seen in the championship.
If that game was played last year, Tyrone would have registered a win by 5 points and still have plenty in store.
I'd say Tyrone have much more to work on this year. You could say that they have more to work with than others, but the effects of that purple 10 min passage was all too easily deflated by a determined Monaghan performance displaying IMO more skill and tactical nous in proportion to sweat and muscle than previous efforts.
Tyrone are on a poor enough run. Their luck has abandoned them. Referees ( and CCCCCCCCCC ) have been shafting them. Monaghan's next game is in Scotstown by the way. ;)
Their luck will turn and relegation would not be end of the world.
Whether a lot of these lads have too many miles on the clock or not, they owe us nothing.
It's very hard and it would be very unfair to be critical of any of these boys.
Mickey is rebuilding. They'll still be hard to beat in the summer.
agree with that
Fixture wise fortune has favoured Tyrone, they have 4 home games to Monaghan's 3 in the league this year.
3 of Tyrone's remaining games are at home whereas Monaghan have a task with 3 of their remaining games away from home.
Quote from: orangeman on March 08, 2010, 03:32:44 PM
Monaghan's next game is in Scotstown by the way. ;)
Scotstown has smaller capacity than Inniskeen, hence being used for the Cork and Derry games, neither of whom bring support to away games. The Tyrone game was a big pull from the Monaghan side and it was assumed that it would be from the Tyrone side too, hence the game being in Inniskeen.
Inniskeen was an excellent venue. Would like to see more league game's played in smaller venues.
The pitch was first class. Even Rory Woods looked sharp on it.
If Omagh was unavailable for a Tyrone game where would it be played and what would the capacity be??
I would say dungannon which could hold 5000,althogh parking is brutal there
dungannon - the playing surface is brutal too
Dungannon was a much superior venue for league game's thann Omagh. Far better atmosphere and was usually full. Used to get up to 10,000 in it. Probably needs a bit of work done to it.
Havent been to dungannon in a few years but would imagine it prob needs a bit of work done alrite.From playing on omagh as well i often found it a bad playing surface also
jesus lads, your not seriously sugesting that dunngannon is abetter venue for tyrone games than omagh??! ???
I reckon we should play the Dubs in Aghyaran or Urney!
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 09, 2010, 04:49:01 PM
I reckon we should play the Dubs in Aghyaran or Urney!
They actually should do this just to really rip the piss outa it and make them change in the cars
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 09, 2010, 04:49:01 PM
I reckon we should play the Dubs in Aghyaran or Urney!
wonder will mickey be looking for croke park now that we need points though probably better chance winning in croke rather than omagh
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on March 09, 2010, 02:07:18 PM
jesus lads, your not seriously sugesting that dunngannon is abetter venue for tyrone games than omagh??! ???
Would much prefer watch a game in a packed Dungannon than a half empty Omagh. Far better atmosphere although obviously the facilties are no were near as good. Also although Dungannon's surface isn't the best it isn't as bad as Omagh's. For all the money spent by Tyrone can't believe they haven't invested in a decent pitch in Omagh. Would make a serious difference to the quality of game's.
omagh have great facilities but tyrone never seem to play well in healy park, whereas o'neill park in dungannon wasnt great facility wise but it was a fortress. what would you rather have?
I see in this week's Gaelic Life, the 'Team of the Week' includes Monaghan's keeper, Duffy.
??? How do they work that one out?
Also includes Clerkin, Finlay, Gollogly and Hughes from Monaghan, and Cassidy from Tyrone, all of whom had good games.
thought the monaghan keeper last week was very suspect.