anyone see the back page of the Irish news, creggan are now going to hold an under 21 ulster championship. personally think it would be a good idea, any idea of what teams will be competing and who would be the favourites?
How many pitches do Creggan have?
Cross Rangers won in Armagh.
We have a reasonable side and coukd give it a good run.
Fair play to Creggan Kickhams for taking the initiative.
U21 championship for what year? The U21 championship in Cavan has just finished so we might have a hope if it for 2009. If it is for 2010 ask us this time next year.
Im assuming its for the 2009 winners. Sure the Minor Ulster club final is usually played on 1st January when a good few players would be overage.
this will be the big one lads, how are creggan doing at u21 at present and how do they expect to do over the next few years ;)
Quote from: hardstation on December 31, 2009, 12:29:27 AM
Quote from: Bogball XV on December 31, 2009, 12:24:58 AM
this will be the big one lads, how are creggan doing at u21 at present and how do they expect to do over the next few years ;)
Very well, as you probably know. U21 and Minor champions in Antrim. The reason why they are setting this up, I'd say. The St. Paul's Minor tournament started the same way, I believe.
think saint Paul's won it the first two years in a row ::) quite convenient, maybe creggan have similar ambitions
Pity this wasn't set up a few years ago when we'd have had a good chance! Scotstown won the u-21 in Monaghan this year and would fancy their chances given that their whole team has played in the St. Pauls minor tournament over the last 3 years, and they've a couple of players with county experience.
It's a great idea and fair play to Creggan for starting it up, hope it's a success like the St Pauls one.
Quote from: hardstation on December 31, 2009, 12:53:55 AM
Quote from: randomtask on December 31, 2009, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 31, 2009, 12:29:27 AM
Quote from: Bogball XV on December 31, 2009, 12:24:58 AM
this will be the big one lads, how are creggan doing at u21 at present and how do they expect to do over the next few years ;)
Very well, as you probably know. U21 and Minor champions in Antrim. The reason why they are setting this up, I'd say. The St. Paul's Minor tournament started the same way, I believe.
think saint Paul's won it the first two years in a row ::) quite convenient, maybe creggan have similar ambitions
You may be right but St. Paul's have continued the competition every year since, even when they were nowhere near getting into it (for years now). They run a great competition year in year out so I don't quite understand your comment. If Creggan run a comp anywhere near as successful as the Minor, they will be providing a great service. A wee bit of vision, even off the back of some success, has to be admired.
I think you got the wrong end of the stick, in light hearted terms i am just saying that saint pauls obviously started that tournament because they thought they would win it, and maybe now creggan are doing the same ;D
Good initiative by Creggan alright - very progressive club.
I'm not sure but I think they've 2 pitches. Haven't been there since the place was revamped though.
Only one pitch would usually be required for this though.
They've won 2 u21s in a row(I think) and a few minors so obviously an influencing factor but hopefully they keep it going when they're not winning.
They're about our only hope in antrim at present for breaking the stronghold of cargin and st galls so hopefully it improves Creggan as a team too.
This Ulster competition was tried before by a Derry club cant remember which early 2000. Cant see it happening as some of the counties haven't even finished their 2009 chapionship. Its obviously been restarted by Creggan as they feel they have a good team this year. But with a lot of u21 players playing with sigerson/ universities and national league county teams all i can say is good luck but i have no doubt some teams will not field. As usual this age bracket in each county has been more or less forgot about with competitions been run off either early or late in the year and almost never completed in time. The inter county competition is also run off on a weekly basis just to get rid off it as it a shame as one of the best inter county games last year was the ulster u21 final.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on December 31, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
Tend to agree with you wanderer. The U 21 county teams are in preperation and there was a right row here a few years ago for lads needed by Omagh CBS and county minor squad. Can't see how the management of Tyrone minors, U21s and Omagh CBS will be too enamoured with this idea if it involves Omagh playing three games over three weekends.
Seems ill thought out and a bit self indulgent of Creggan.
Yeah don't forget to factor in the McKenna Cup which will rob clubs of certain University and County Panellists also.
Derry had their first U21 Championship in years last year and in fairness it's not a level taken seriously at all here. I don't mean to sound negative but surely there's enough going on for lads at that age without adding an extra unimportant competition on top of it.
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 08:37:41 PM
Im assuming its for the 2009 winners. Sure the Minor Ulster club final is usually played on 1st January when a good few players would be overage.
it starts in 3 weeks time, it's the 2009 winners but apparently they havent all been finshed yet, but a creggan spokesman says they will be by then. only 4 or confirmed at the minute.
Quote from: screenexile on December 31, 2009, 10:18:58 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on December 31, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
Tend to agree with you wanderer. The U 21 county teams are in preperation and there was a right row here a few years ago for lads needed by Omagh CBS and county minor squad. Can't see how the management of Tyrone minors, U21s and Omagh CBS will be too enamoured with this idea if it involves Omagh playing three games over three weekends.
Seems ill thought out and a bit self indulgent of Creggan.
Yeah don't forget to factor in the McKenna Cup which will rob clubs of certain University and County Panellists also.
Derry had their first U21 Championship in years last year and in fairness it's not a level taken seriously at all here. I don't mean to sound negative but surely there's enough going on for lads at that age without adding an extra unimportant competition on top of it.
Unfortunately this competition is not well timed and should be set aside and possible played at the end of the county u21 ulster championship when college, national league and university competitions have ended and before the start of the ulster senior cship. Cant see all games being played. does any one remember who previously run a similar competition think it was bellaghy of ballinderry?
Quote from: thewanderer on December 31, 2009, 12:02:12 PM
Quote from: screenexile on December 31, 2009, 10:18:58 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on December 31, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
Tend to agree with you wanderer. The U 21 county teams are in preperation and there was a right row here a few years ago for lads needed by Omagh CBS and county minor squad. Can't see how the management of Tyrone minors, U21s and Omagh CBS will be too enamoured with this idea if it involves Omagh playing three games over three weekends.
Seems ill thought out and a bit self indulgent of Creggan.
Yeah don't forget to factor in the McKenna Cup which will rob clubs of certain University and County Panellists also.
Derry had their first U21 Championship in years last year and in fairness it's not a level taken seriously at all here. I don't mean to sound negative but surely there's enough going on for lads at that age without adding an extra unimportant competition on top of it.
Unfortunately this competition is not well timed and should be set aside and possible played at the end of the county u21 ulster championship when college, national league and university competitions have ended and before the start of the ulster senior cship. Cant see all games being played. does any one remember who previously run a similar competition think it was bellaghy of ballinderry?
castledawson????
See some lazy journalism today in Irish News.
According to them the Down U21 reps will be Burren or Longstone!
maybe no point in Bredagh playing Downpatrick this Sunday with winners going on to Co Final
do other counties actually take u21 seriously? In armagh its a complete farce...
Some Co Boards may view the U21 grade as a bit of a nuisance (Armagh anyway), but the clubs who have a realistic chance of winning certainly dont. When we won it in 2005 there were some fantastic games, the semi v Dromintee being a particular stand out.
Fair play to Creggan for trying to inject some enthusiasm into the grade, churlish to say they are only diong it because they have a good side(no doubt they are), as hopefully it will will still be going strong when Creggan are not competing in it.
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Tend to agree with you wanderer. The U 21 county teams are in preperation and there was a right row here a few years ago for lads needed by Omagh CBS and county minor squad. Can't see how the management of Tyrone minors, U21s and Omagh CBS will be too enamoured with this idea if it involves Omagh playing three games over three weekends.
Seems ill thought out and a bit self indulgent of Creggan.
No it was Greenlough who had the comp going for a few years in early 2000's.
I remember Slaughneil and St Galls winning it--it was always unofficial but had a right few county u-21 winners and always the host club.
I think the final year it turned into a 7 a side competition. The games were played over a weekend or a day but were taken very seriously and well run. The only downside i remember was some unbelievable hometown refereeing decisions when Greenlough were playing--they would have to be seen to be believed!
Yeah don't forget to factor in the McKenna Cup which will rob clubs of certain University and County Panellists also.
Derry had their first U21 Championship in years last year and in fairness it's not a level taken seriously at all here. I don't mean to sound negative but surely there's enough going on for lads at that age without adding an extra unimportant competition on top of it.
Unfortunately this competition is not well timed and should be set aside and possible played at the end of the county u21 ulster championship when college, national league and university competitions have ended and before the start of the ulster senior cship. Cant see all games being played. does any one remember who previously run a similar competition think it was bellaghy of ballinderry?
castledawson????
No it was Greenlough who had the comp going for a few years in the early 2000's
I remember Slaughtneil and St Galls winning it a few times. The competition was well run and taken very seriously by teams involved with fighting breaking out on more than one occasion.
Many county winners took part but it was never an official ulster u-21 comp and not all counties were represented. The host club also played each year and their games featured some unbelievable hometown refereeing that would have to be seen to be believed.
I think the last year changed format and was a 7 or 10 a side competition. Most years it was ran over a weekend or one day
Looks like Creggan got this idea from taking part in the Coalisland Fianna, Ulster Under 21 sevens in the summer. A bit tacky to try and revamp that idea a few months later and even put up the same money for first prize.
Quote from: Take Your Points on January 01, 2010, 06:18:03 PM
Looks like "player burnout" is just a distant memory, if it ever entered the minds, for too many.
Yet another competition at a cluttered time of the year for established competitions including MacRory and McLarnon Cups, McKenna Cup and Sigerson Cup. Makes no sense except to a few administrators who have their own agenda which doesn't include or understand the demands on underage players in other counties.
Agreed-does not seem to take notice of bigger picture at all. Seems totally self serving and I can see it causing conflict with secondary schools, colleges and even county panels. Poorly thought out if thought out at all.
Counterintuitively, this competition may actually improve the burnout situation as it's existence will encourage more counties to run off their championships on time, rather than let them drag on into the following year.
'Burnout' is not caused by overplaying, over training maybe.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 01, 2010, 08:06:21 AM
do other counties actually take u21 seriously? In armagh its a complete farce...
I think we won seven in a row or something in Antrim, which provided a great opportunity for players a few years older or younger to play on the same team. Fair play to Creggan.
Quote from: Gold on January 01, 2010, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on December 31, 2009, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 31, 2009, 12:02:12 PM
Quote from: screenexile on December 31, 2009, 10:18:58 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on December 31, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
Tend to agree with you wanderer. The U 21 county teams are in preperation and there was a right row here a few years ago for lads needed by Omagh CBS and county minor squad. Can't see how the management of Tyrone minors, U21s and Omagh CBS will be too enamoured with this idea if it involves Omagh playing three games over three weekends.
Seems ill thought out and a bit self indulgent of Creggan.
No it was Greenlough who had the comp going for a few years in early 2000's.
I remember Slaughneil and St Galls winning it--it was always unofficial but had a right few county u-21 winners and always the host club.
I think the final year it turned into a 7 a side competition. The games were played over a weekend or a day but were taken very seriously and well run. The only downside i remember was some unbelievable hometown refereeing decisions when Greenlough were playing--they would have to be seen to be believed!
Yeah don't forget to factor in the McKenna Cup which will rob clubs of certain University and County Panellists also.
Derry had their first U21 Championship in years last year and in fairness it's not a level taken seriously at all here. I don't mean to sound negative but surely there's enough going on for lads at that age without adding an extra unimportant competition on top of it.
Unfortunately this competition is not well timed and should be set aside and possible played at the end of the county u21 ulster championship when college, national league and university competitions have ended and before the start of the ulster senior cship. Cant see all games being played. does any one remember who previously run a similar competition think it was bellaghy of ballinderry?
castledawson????
No it was Greenlough who had the comp going for a few years in the early 2000's
I remember Slaughtneil and St Galls winning it a few times. The competition was well run and taken very seriously by teams involved with fighting breaking out on more than one occasion.
Many county winners took part but it was never an official ulster u-21 comp and not all counties were represented. The host club also played each year and their games featured some unbelievable hometown refereeing that would have to be seen to be believed.
I think the last year changed format and was a 7 or 10 a side competition. Most years it was ran over a weekend or one day
Greenlough is correct. May have been in memory of the late Paul McCann.
I remember big Louis' older chap getting a good write up.
Quote from: bennydorano on January 04, 2010, 05:24:34 PM
'Burnout' is not caused by overplaying, over training maybe.
That's also why I never made the county team - I was over training.
In fact I just barely made it on to O'Hanlons division 4 team in Armagh.
Quote from: Take Your Points on January 01, 2010, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 01, 2010, 08:32:29 PM
Counterintuitively, this competition may actually improve the burnout situation as it's existence will encourage more counties to run off their championships on time, rather than let them drag on into the following year.
None so blind as though who don't want to see.
Burnout is caused by continued overplaying of underage players due to demands from too many sources and ever increasing new competitions at so many age levels.
There is an immediate need for someone to take an overview of all competitions for underage players to cut down the number of demands on young players from so many sources by co-ordinating and curtailing competitions. The GAA is rife with semi autonomous units with their own administrators who are apparently unwilling to cooperate and operate in what they see as the best interests of the unit. A re-organisation of the GAA structures to allow an executive able to co-ordinate the actions of units with a high degree of authority.
Burn-out is an issue mainly, though not exclusively, an issue for young players in second and third level education. A competition like an Ulster u21 would be tremendous for players on an u21 team who don't go to University and would be delighted to test themselves against the best in Ulster and represent their counties but perhaps a nuisance for those with school, or more likely, freshers or Sigerson commitments. Its a difficult balance to strike but the GAA have to be careful not to overlook those underage players who play exclusively with their clubs and often don't get as many playing outlets as they'd like.
There are a few very fundamental steps that can be taken to address burn-out amongst young players;
1. Scrap the pre-Christmas stages of the McRory cup and the 3rd level Ryan Cup
2. Encourage schools and universities to ensure that their managers take a mature atitude to the training demands on players. For example, if 1 was enacted, there should be no McRory panels assembled before 1st December.
Why do colleges threat theMcRory cup with such esteem ,Omagh must have trained 4 times over the holiday period and hadafriendly in Dublin yesterday against a Dublin minor team , is this not leading to player burnout it is certainly time that the college season at least takes a break also at this time just like the adultintercounty footballers.
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Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 04, 2010, 09:57:41 PM
Burn-out is an issue mainly, though not exclusively, an issue for young players in second and third level education. A competition like an Ulster u21 would be tremendous for players on an u21 team who don't go to University and would be delighted to test themselves against the best in Ulster and represent their counties but perhaps a nuisance for those with school, or more likely, freshers or Sigerson commitments. Its a difficult balance to strike but the GAA have to be careful not to overlook those underage players who play exclusively with their clubs and often don't get as many playing outlets as they'd like.
There are a few very fundamental steps that can be taken to address burn-out amongst young players;
1. Scrap the pre-Christmas stages of the McRory cup and the 3rd level Ryan Cup
2. Encourage schools and universities to ensure that their managers take a mature atitude to the training demands on players. For example, if 1 was enacted, there should be no McRory panels assembled before 1st December.
Scrapping the pre-Christmas MacRory Cup games would not prevent training and practice games. The best solution would be to move the MacRory back to term 1, start league games in early September and play cup final in November. Leave students time to work for January exams and give them a rest over mid winter. The current system encourages teams to gamble on qualifying for the knockout stage and then going mad with training in December and January when lads should be paying more attention to their studies for modular exams in mid January. Start games in September before squads have time for training and run the knockout over three weeks in November to prevent senseless stamina training.
Other problem is that it would be the elite players who participate in these competitions at Ulster level and will be those in greatest demand, hence burnout. The solution would be to run these new competitions during the early and mid summer when games are hard to come by for many players due to "holiday" breaks and counties halting games due to county teams.
It would if schools were determined enough to stamp it out. If the GAA got all the schools together and got them to agree that any oragnised training before 1st December was a disciplinary offence, and in turn the school principals disciplined any teacher not respected the September to November closed season, you'd soon stamp out the excessive training.
I would commend Creggan for undertaking this initiative. Whilst i recognise that there may be an issue of player burnout I think that at club level this will effect only a limited number of the players involved in this competition. Not all of them will be playing McRory, or be at university, or be be able to get on their club senior team. Some of course will be, but it is likely that for a large proportion of them this may be their only involvement in playing since they finished minor football/left school. It is, imo, more important for the longterm health of the GAA to attempt to provide as many outlets for playing for the greatest number, for as long as possible, rather than focussing on burnout of the few, albeit most talented, players.
All matches are scheduled for a throw in time of 2:00pm
Preliminary round:
Sat 23rd January : Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh) V Naomh Pádraig, Donagh (Fermanagh)
First Round:
Sun 24th January: Naomh Conaill (Donegal) V Foreglen (Derry)
Sat 30th January: Truagh Gaels (Monaghan) V Omagh St. Endas (Tyrone)
Sun 31st January: Kickhams Creggan (Antrim) V Down Champions
Sat 6th February: Belturbet (Cavan) V Crossmaglen / Naomh Pádraig Donagh
(Semi-finals to be drawn after last first round match)
First Semi Final: Sat 13th February
Second Semi Final: Sat 14th February
Final Sunday 21st February
Quote from: drici on January 22, 2010, 02:14:58 PM
All matches are scheduled for a throw in time of 2:00pm
Preliminary round:
Sat 23rd January : Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh) V Naomh Pádraig, Donagh (Fermanagh)
First Round:
Sun 24th January: Naomh Conaill (Donegal) V Foreglen (Derry)
Sat 30th January: Truagh Gaels (Monaghan) V Omagh St. Endas (Tyrone)
Sun 31st January: Kickhams Creggan (Antrim) V Down Champions
Sat 6th February: Belturbet (Cavan) V Crossmaglen / Naomh Pádraig Donagh
(Semi-finals to be drawn after last first round match)
First Semi Final: Sat 13th February
Second Semi Final: Sat 14th February
Final Sunday 21st February
Burren should represent Down as they won last years under 20 competition!!!!
St Pat's were defeated in the semi final of the Fermanagh equivalent last weekend,
Tempo and Belcoo play this weekend in the final.
Because of the weather, the competition ran late.
The best way forward apparently, was to draw one team out of the 4 remaining semi finalists.
It's a pity really as Tempo would have quite a strong team with a few of there players having played for the county
senior team.
All matches are scheduled for a throw in time of 2:00pm
Preliminary round:
Sat 23rd January : Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh) 5-21 Naomh Pádraig, Donagh (Fermanagh) 0-04
First Round:
Sun 24th January: Naomh Conaill (Donegal) 1-08 Foreglen (Derry) 0-10
Sat 30th January: Truagh Gaels (Monaghan) 3-04 Omagh St. Endas (Tyrone) 0-16
Sun 31st January: Kickhams Creggan (Antrim) 1-04 Burren(Down) 3-07
Sat 6th February: Belturbet (Cavan) 0-04 Crossmaglen Rangers 2-16
(Semi-finals to be drawn after last first round match)
First Semi Final: Saturday 13th February
Second Semi Final: Sunday 14th February
Final: Sunday 21st February
So this is definately taking place it seems. Has come out of nowhere!
On the point of u21s bein a joke, those of you who think armagh is bad, u obviously havnt seen south downs attempt, pathetic! 6 teams max in it! From what I can gather, the last few years in armagh the u21 championship has been quite sucessful!
Jeez, that's an awful trimming our lads gave to Donagh!!!
Quote from: drici on January 25, 2010, 10:37:49 AM
All matches are scheduled for a throw in time of 2:00pm
Preliminary round:
Sat 23rd January : Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh) 5-21 Naomh Pádraig, Donagh (Fermanagh) 0-04
First Round:
Sun 24th January: Naomh Conaill (Donegal) 1-08 Foreglen (Derry) 0-10
Sat 30th January: Truagh Gaels (Monaghan) V Omagh St. Endas (Tyrone)
Sun 31st January: Kickhams Creggan (Antrim) V Down Champions
Sat 6th February: Belturbet (Cavan) V Crossmaglen Rangers
(Semi-finals to be drawn after last first round match)
First Semi Final: Sat 13th February
Second Semi Final: Sat 14th February
Final: Sunday 21st February
AJ Gallagher goal sends Naomh Conaill into last four
NAOMH CONAILL 1-08
O'BRIENS, FOREGLEN 0-10
By Chris McNulty
A GOAL five minutes from time by substitute AJ Gallagher was the key score as Naomh Conaill booked their place in the semi finals of the inaugural Ulster U21 Club Championship by eking out a win over Foreglen from Derry in yesterday's quarter-final at Randalstown.
With the Glenties men leading by the narrowest of margins (0-8 to 0-7) as the game entered its final five minutes, Leo McLoone senior's team bagged the killer goal.
Leo McLoone fed captain and Man of the Match Eoin Waide with a clever diagonal ball that opened up the Foreglen defence. Waide, who played for Donegal on Saturday night, would have backed defender Martin Bradley to cut out his delivery, but the ball slipped through his fingers into the path of Gallagher, who drilled home from the edge of the square.
While points from Martin Farrell, Eoghan McFeely and Nigel Bradley brought Foreglen back into the contest, it was too little, too late as Naomh Conaill had done enough to come through a hard-fought encounter.
They have yet to complete their 2009 Donegal U21 Championship, indeed they are only at the quarter-final stage of that competition, but Naomh Conaill, having won the last three Donegal titles, were put up as the county's representatives in the first ever U21 Club Championship, held at the mightily impressive Kickhams Creggan club outside Randalstown.
Though young in years, it was a vastly experienced Naomh Conaill team that lined out yesterday, with a number of members of the club's senior team, which contested the senior county final in October, included.
Dara Gallagher and Eoin Waide came through Donegal's McKenna Cup match with St Mary's the previous evening and were included from the off.
With less than two minutes played, Naomh Conaill penetrated the Foreglen defence when Gallagher's ingenuity put midfielder Leo McLoone in the clear, but his attempt at goal was parried to safety by Joseph Ashford.
Dermot Molloy raised the game's first white flag on ten minutes when he got on the end of a McLoone pass to fire over. Gallagher doubled that advantage on the quarter-hour mark when he delivered a fine point off his left foot having collected a sublime cross-field ball by Molloy.
It took Foreglen 24 minutes to score their first point of the game, registered from a free by Nigel Bradley after Eoin Waide was penalised for a foul on Eunan McFeely.
That would be the County Derry team's only point of the opening half.
Meantime, Dermot Molloy took receipt of another McLoone pass to hit his second of the day and in stoppage time at the end of the half he knocked over his third - from a free, after a late hit on Dara Gallagher by Oisin Duffy.
Naomh Conaill hit six wides in the first 30 minutes and in the opening minutes of the second-half the sizeable following who made their way from Glenties must have been worried that their missed chances could return to haunt them.
Inside the first seven minutes after the re-start Nigel Bradley converted a pair of frees to move Foreglen to within a point, but Molloy responded with a free. Eoghan McFeely kept Foreglen within touching distance, as he popped over a majestic point from 45 metres, while a free by Martin Farrell came just a minute after Dara Gallagher pointed at the other end.
Naomh Conaill were finding the gears again, with Eoin Waide and Leo McLoone pulling the strings. Skipper Waide was fed by Dermot Molloy, whose power saw him regain possession, and the wing-back split the sticks from 30 metres.
Molloy defied the laws of trigonometry when he perfected his angles from the tightest of positions out the left, after a surging run from inside his own half by McLoone opened up the chance.
But Foreglen weren't going down without a stern fight and points by McFeely and Bradley pulled them from the brink again, only for them to be rocked by the concession of AJ Gallagher's goal on 55 minutes.
Despite Foreglen applying a good deal of pressure late on, Naomh Conaill held on.
For the winners, Cathal Ellis, Stephen Molloy, Dermot Molloy, Leo McLoone and Eoin Waide were on song, with the latter being named the Man of the Match.
Naomh Conaill: Stephen McGrath; Martin Gallagher, Ciaran Boyle, Stephen Molloy; Jamie McHugh, Cathal Ellis, Eoin Waide (0-1); Callan Waide, Leo McLoone; Dermot Molloy (0-5, 2f), Seamus Corcoran, Dara Gallagher (0-2, 1f); Christopher Molloy, Joe Kennedy, Brian Quinn. SUBS: Jamie Molloy for C.Waide (36 mins); AJ Gallagher (1-0) for McHugh (41 mins); David Gallagher for C.Molloy (57 mins); John Molloy for Kennedy (60 mins).
Foreglen: Joseph Ashford; Ruairi Duffy, Shane Duffy, Kevin O'Neill; Paul Kealey, Oisin Duffy, Darren O'Kane; Ciaran McFeely, Mark McCormick; Cathal O'Hara, Nigel Bradley (0-5, 3f), Martin Farrell (0-2, 2f); Eoghan McFeely (0-3), Sean Campbell, Eunan McFeely. SUB: Martin Bradley for Kealey (half-time);
Referee: Owen Quinn (Antrim).
Quote from: drici on January 22, 2010, 02:14:58 PM
All matches are scheduled for a throw in time of 2:00pm
Preliminary round:
Sat 23rd January : Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh) V Naomh Pádraig, Donagh (Fermanagh)
First Round:
Sun 24th January: Naomh Conaill (Donegal) V Foreglen (Derry)
Sat 30th January: Truagh Gaels (Monaghan) V Omagh St. Endas (Tyrone)
Sun 31st January: Kickhams Creggan (Antrim) V Down Champions
Sat 6th February: Belturbet (Cavan) V Crossmaglen / Naomh Pádraig Donagh
(Semi-finals to be drawn after last first round match)
First Semi Final: Sat 13th February
Second Semi Final: Sat 14th February
Final Sunday 21st February
So the semi finals will clash with the MacRory cup quarter finals!!!!!
Club News
St Pats U21's met an impressive Crossmaglen team on Saturday and suffered a huge defeat. The best of Fermanagh probably wouldn't have beat the odds on favourites, the lads can learn from this and maybe if the Fermanagh competition is run better, then teams within the county can compete with the likes of Crossmaglen.
First Round:
Sun 24th January: Naomh Conaill (Donegal) 1-08 Foreglen (Derry) 0-10
Sat 30th January: Truagh Gaels (Monaghan) V Omagh St. Endas (Tyrone)
Sun 31st January: Kickhams Creggan (Antrim) V Burren(Down)
Sat 6th February: Belturbet (Cavan) V Crossmaglen Rangers
Truagh Gaels 1-02 Omagh St Endas 0-10 HT
Truagh Gaels 3-04 Omagh St Endas 0-16
Creggan 0-00 Burren 1-01
Creggan 0-00 Burren 3-01
Creggan 0-01 Burren 3-01
Creggan 0-02 Burren 3-01
Creggan 0-02 Burren 3-01 HT
Quote from: Beo on January 31, 2010, 02:36:23 PM
Creggan 0-02 Burren 3-01 HT
presume this means the rest of the tournament will not go ahead ;D
Creggan 1-02 Burren 3-02
Creggan 1-02 Burren 3-03
Creggan 1-02 Burren 3-04
Creggan 1-03 Burren 3-04
Creggan 1-03 Burren 3-05
Creggan 1-03 Burren 3-07
Creggan 1-04 Burren 3-07 FT
So much for their cunning plan to put on a competition because they had a team they thot could win it.
Sunday 31st January
Throw-In 2pm
Kickhams Creggan (Antrim) 1-04
Burren (Down) 3-07
The old adage is certainly true...goals win games! Creggan U21's certainly discovered the harsh truth of this as Burren opened up with a goal blitz inside the opening 10 minutes to leave Creggan stunned and 9 points down before they had hardly kicked a ball.
To haul back this defecit was always going to be a massive task and so it proved to be when the scores were tallyed up that as the difference between the teams. That's not to say Creggan didn't have their chances, they did, as a missed penalty and other missed goal chances were testament to this. In the end though it was too much work to do and Burren showed how sharp they were out of the blocks on the back of their County final 5 days earlier.
Burren proceed through to the semi final stage with their number 11 Sean Murdock picking up the Denvir Plumbing & Heating MOTM award
where are the games being played?neutral venues or home venues?
All games being played at Creggan's grounds Dougal as they are hosts of the Tournament.
ah s****e!!!!
Rangers 0-01 Belturbet 0-02
thanks beo,your a life saver,couldnt make it to the game.
Cross 0-02 Belturbet 0-02
Crossmaglen Rangers 0-03 Beal Tairbirt 0-02
Cross 0-04 Belturbet 0-02
Cross down to 14.
Crossmaglen 0-04 Beal Tairbirt 0-03 HT
any players standing out for belturbet?
Mark Teevan Johnny Klusch Brendan Fitzpatrick
watch out for niall reilly,on the 40 id say,a lefty.only gone 17 a few months ago.
Cross 0-04 Belturbet 0-04
Rangers 0-06 Belturbet 0-04
0-07 0-04
Rangers 1-08 Belturbet 0-04 Darren Hughes--goal.
1-09 0-04
1-10 0-04
Rangers 2-11 Belturbet 0-04 Darren Hughes - goal.
Rangers 2-16 Belturbet 0-04 FT
Laoch na hImeartha - Franny Hanratty - Crossmaglen Rangers.
Preliminary round:
Sat 23rd January : Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh) 5-21 Naomh Pádraig, Donagh (Fermanagh) 0-04
First Round:
Sun 24th January: Naomh Conaill (Donegal) 1-08 Foreglen (Derry) 0-10
Sat 30th January: Truagh Gaels (Monaghan) 3-04 Omagh St. Endas (Tyrone) 0-16
Sun 31st January: Kickhams Creggan (Antrim) 1-04 Burren(Down) 3-07
Sat 6th February: Belturbet (Cavan) 0-04 Crossmaglen Rangers 2-16
Semi Finals:
Saturday 13th February : 2-00pm
Crossmaglen Rangers v Omagh St Endas
Sunday 14th February: 2-00pm
Naomh Conaill v Burren St Marys
Final: Sunday 21st February
RnaC 0-01 NE 0-00
Raonaithe 0-02 Omagh 0-00
Rangers 0-03 St Endas 0-00
Cross 0-03 Omagh 0-01
Cross 0-03 Omagh 2-01
Any MacRory boys on Omagh side?
Cross 0-04 Omagh 2-03
Cross 0-04 Omagh 2-03 Big Dig
Franny away for Cross.
0-04 2-03 Referee laps it and blows for HT.
Quote from: ONeill on February 13, 2010, 02:27:11 PM
Any MacRory boys on Omagh side?
I think Barry Tierney, Conan Grugan and Ronan O'Neill...open to correction though.
Omagh: James Kirwan Eoghan Rodgers Darryn Bradley Stephen Mullan Kieran Brannigan Michael Gallagher Caolan McCrossan Turlough Gallagher Conan Grugan Conor McMahon Shane O'Neill Leo McCullagh Damien McGloin Jason McAnulla Ronan O'Neill
Omagh down to 14 as well from that: Turlough Gallagher.
Quote from: Beo on February 13, 2010, 02:51:08 PM
Omagh: James Kirwan Eoghan Rodgers Darryn Bradley Stephen Mullan Kieran Brannigan Michael Gallagher Caolan McCrossan Turlough Gallagher Conan Grugan Conor McMahon Shane O'Neill Leo McCullagh Damien McGloin Jason McAnulla Ronan O'Neill
Stevie Mullan and maybe Turlough Gallagher are MacRory lads as well if I'm not mistaken. Wouldn't be 100% on Gallagher but he definitely was a panelist last year.
0-04 2-04
Cross 0-04 Omagh 3-04
Long left beo? Who got the goals?
0-06 3-04 19 minutes gone 2nd Half. Cross down to 13.
Cross 0-06 Omagh 3-05
0-07 3-05
3-5 to 7 with 4 left. Caolan McCrossan broke leg apparently
3 minutes injury time.0-07 3-06
Rangers 0-07 St Endas 3-06 FT
Laoch na hImeartha No. 6 Omagh: Michael Gallagher.
Congratulations to the St Enda's on another great win
Omagh appear to be building a bit of an empire.
Can confirm that it was Caolon Mc Crossan that broke his leg, according to my source it was a double break an quite nasty...also hear it was a rough game with a lot of fighting/rowing etc. Hope for a quick recovery for young mc crossan!
Naomh Conaill 0-00 St Marys 0-01
NC 0-00 Burren 0-02
Naomh Conaill 0-00 Burren 0-03
0-00 0-04
Naomh Conaill 0-01 St Marys 0-04
NC 0-02 Burren 0-04
Naomh Conaill 0-02 Burren 0-05
NC 0-02 Burren 0-06
Naomh Conaill 0-03 Burren 0-06
Naomh Conaill 1-03 Burren 0-06
1-03 0-06 HT
Naomh Conaill 1-03 Burren 0-07 2nd Half
1-04 0-07
1-04 0-08
whos doin the damage for either side?
NC 1-06 Burren 0-08
Dermy Molloy has kept Naomh Conaill in it. 1-06 0-09
1-06 0-10
NC 1-06 Burren 0-11
long to go?
1-07 1-11
23 minutes gone
1-09 1-11
Naomh Conaill 1-09 Burren 1-12
Naomh Conaill 1-09 Burren St Marys 1-12 fT
Disappointing for the Glenties boys.
Laoch na hImeartha: No.14 Burren Gerard McCartan
Would you have the teams lineup?
would omagh now be the favourites for the title? whats this burren team like?
Donegal News
Naomh Conaill out of Championship
St Mary's Burren (Down) 1-12
Naomh Conaill (Donegal) 1-09
Naomh Conaill's participation in the Ulster U21 Club Football Championship came to an end after a fighting performance yesterday afternoon.
This was always going to be a big ask for the Naomh Conaill team who were fielding without Dara Gallagher who was injured in the first round of this competition and their other main striking threat Dermot Molloy forced to field with a broken bone in his hand among a long list of injuries on Leo McLoone(Snr's) team. However from the throw-in, Leo McLoone who was excused county duty to play, drove forward through the Burren defence and was denied an early goal by a last gasp tackle from the Burren goalkeeper. This early attack seem to spur the Burren men into life and they began to put some great passages of play together. Between the second and 11th minutes the Burren posted four unanswered points before another run by Leo McLoone in the 16th minute drew a free.
This was pointed by Dermot Molloy to get Naomh Conaill on the scoreboard. Naomh Conaill were now starting to put some good moves together but an off-the ball tackle on David Gallagher in the 18th minute resulted in him being replaced by Joseph Kennedy.
A free by Leo McLoone followed by two quick scores from the Burren men in the 21st and 22nd minutes left Naomh Conaill trailing by four points and with a mountain to climb. Naomh Conaill introduced Jamie Molloy to midfield and his strength began to pay dividends.
Stephen Molloy and Cathal Ellis in defence were now controlling their areas and with more possession Naomh Conaill were now on top.
A pointed free from Dermot Molloy on 29 mins brought Naomh Conaill within 3 points of the Down champions.
Then with the clock ticking down for the end of the first half, a long ball from Eoin Waide into the Burren goalmouth was spilled to the net by the Burren keeper under pressure from Seamus Corcoran. Having survived a patchy first half Naomh Conaill must have felt optomistic for the second. However the first score of the second half was posted by the Burren men. This was cancelled almost immediately by another Dermot Molloy point.
With the two teams swopping points again in the 8th and 10th minutes the game was now on a knife-edge and when Dermot Molloy hit a free in the 11th minute of the second half to put the Donegal men in front for the first time things looked good.
However three quick scores between the 13th and 18th minute by the Burren men put them two up. A good score by Seamus Corcoran in the 20th minute brought the Donegal men back within one point but immediately after this the Burren scored what was to be the defining score of this game. With Naomh Conaill pressing forward in search of the equaliser a long ball into space in front of the Naomh Conaill goal found the Burren number 13, Padraig Poland and after slipping his marker he slid the ball into the bottom right hand corner past Stephen McGrath. This put the Burren four points ahead. Naomh Conaill then mounted a concerted attack on the Down goal and quickly tagged on two points in the 25th and 27th minutes through Dermot Molloy and Seamus Corcoran.
But with Naomh Conaill pressing forward a quick counter attack saw the Down men score the games last point. Naomh Conaill were now camped in the Burren half but despite two close efforts the elusive goal needed would not come. Having survived a titanic struggle against Cloughaneeley last weekend and this bruising encounter today Leo McLoone Snr will have his work cut out to get his charges fit for the pending semi-final encounter against Four Masters in the delayed 2009 county championship.
Naomh Conaill: Stephen McGrath, Martin Gallagher, Ciaran Boyle, Stephen Molloy, Jamie Gallagher, Cathal Ellis, Brian Quinn, Leo McLoone(0-1f), Callum Waide, AJ Gallagher, Seamus Corcoran (0-2), Eoin Waide (1-0), David Gallagher, Dermot Molloy (0-6, 4f), Rory Boyle Subs: Jamie Molloy for Callum Waide, J Kennedy for David Gallagher)
St Mary's Burren: Cathal Murdock, Tony Fegan, Pauric O'Rourke, Redmond Hanna, Karl Maxwell, Ryan McGovern, David McEntee(0-2), Alan Higgins(0-1), Anton McArdle, Gavin Sands, Sean Murdock(0-2), Conor Toner, Padraig Poland(1-2), Gerard McCartan(0-1), Donal O'Hare(0-1), Subs: Donal Kane(0-1), Conaill McGovern(0-2)
id have to fancy omagh for this now !!
some of them young lads are playing a standard of football that is way beyond their years... Young Grugan is a fine fine player, Steven Mullen is one of the best man markers ive ever seen, For omagh CBS is is outstanding
(http://www.kickhamscreggangac.com/uploads/assets/u21_final.jpg)
Half time score
Burren 1-9 Omagh 1-6
Latest score
Burren 1-13 Omagh 1-8
Any other news from the game?
Quote from: tyrone exile on February 21, 2010, 03:26:19 PM
Any other news from the game?
Updates on the following link. http://twitter.com/ronanscott
Latest score
Burren 1-13 Omagh 1-10
7 Mins off injury time to be played
Latest score
Burren 1-13 Omagh 1-11
Final score
Burren 1-14 Omagh 1-11
Omagh forward gets seriously injured? 2 weeks in a row
Laoch na hImeartha: Eamon Toner Burren
Quote from: Take Your Points on February 21, 2010, 03:53:58 PM
Quote from: tyrone exile on February 21, 2010, 03:38:14 PM
Omagh forward gets seriously injured? 2 weeks in a row
Any word on who was injured?
Ronan O'Neill apparently according to Paddy Hunter
Ronan O'Neill... Knocked out cold by an off the ball elbow straight in front of the ref and linesman
Burren were the better team, stronger and a lot older than their omagh counterparts... Didn't like the way they tackled at all, high and wild.. Very negative if that was a tactic they set out to play.. But burren played well and took so fine scores !!! Pat was once again biased against tyrone but it was no excuse for not taking their scores
Well done to the Burren lads.
You cant beat the bit of tradition :)
Some win by Burren today, lets just see if this team goes through to the senior team, then they will be some propostion!
Quote from: The Hammer on February 21, 2010, 06:16:05 PM
Burren were the better team, stronger and a lot older than their omagh counterparts... Didn't like the way they tackled at all, high and wild.. Very negative if that was a tactic they set out to play.. But burren played well and took so fine scores !!! Pat was once again biased against tyrone but it was no excuse for not taking their scores
Hammer you must have been at a different game than I. Omagh where in you face tactics from the very start. Nipping and pulling jerseys. The number 6 and 10 from Omagh should have been sent off. The sub from burren deserved his red card, no question. But all in all it was a good game of football between two committed team. The stronger team won on the day.
So what about the off the ball elbow that left the omagh player in hospital ? Omagh number 6 stopped the runner once and got a yellow.. Number 10 from omagh was getting held and punched non stop !! f**k it. Doesn't make a diff to me. I'm a neutral. Its gives down football abit of success I suppose
Quote from: The Hammer on February 21, 2010, 06:16:05 PM
Burren were the better team, stronger and a lot older than their omagh counterparts... Didn't like the way they tackled at all, high and wild.. Very negative if that was a tactic they set out to play.. But burren played well and took so fine scores !!! Pat was once again biased against tyrone but it was no excuse for not taking their scores
Not sure how this can be the case when it's an U21 competition, I presume it wasn't an Omagh minor team that lined out against Burren & if it indeed was their minors I retract my statement.
Quote from: mournerambler on February 21, 2010, 08:25:12 PM
Quote from: The Hammer on February 21, 2010, 06:16:05 PM
Burren were the better team, stronger and a lot older than their omagh counterparts... Didn't like the way they tackled at all, high and wild.. Very negative if that was a tactic they set out to play.. But burren played well and took so fine scores !!! Pat was once again biased against tyrone but it was no excuse for not taking their scores
Not sure how this can be the case when it's an U21 competition, I presume it wasn't an Omagh minor team that lined out against Burren & if it indeed was their minors I retract my statement.
To be fair half off the Omagh team are stil minors. Grugan and ONeill are stil only 17. Burren are a well experienced team with about 9 off them regular senior players. Burren had only Donal Ohare, David McEntee and Connor Toner who where minors in 2009. Heartiest congratulations to Burren on their success.
What your thoughts on the match ups this year?
There was some great games in this competition last year with Omagh winning it after a few tight calls
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