Just saw this on the BBC Website. The article can be found at the link below, with the final team being:
Goalkeeper: Oliver Kahn (Germany)
Right-back: Lilian Thuram (France)
Centre-back: Fabio Cannavaro (Italy)
Centre-back: Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal)
Left-back: Philipp Lahm (Germany)
Right midfield: David Beckham (England)
Centre midfield: Zinedine Zidane (France)
Left midfield: Luis Figo (Portugal)
Striker: Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal)
Striker: Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands)
Striker: Thierry Henry (France)
Coach: Marcello Lippi (Italy)
Substitutes: Iker Casillas (Spain), Paolo Maldini (Italy) Sergio Ramos (Spain), Xavi Hernandez (Spain), Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic), Wayne Rooney (England), Fernando Torres (Spain).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philminshull/2009/12/a_european_team_for_the_nought.html (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philminshull/2009/12/a_european_team_for_the_nought.html)
I found his reason for Beckhams inclusion particularyl funny, as he mentioned he had good pace.
Suely Nesta is a better defender then Carvalho? Even the likes of Desailly. In the 1st half of the decade was Lahm a better left back than Maldini? Was he better than Evra is now?
Given the way football has developed, that team needs a sitting midfielder. Gattuso?
Torres should in for rudd. Also Roy keane should be in it
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 22, 2009, 11:56:16 AM
Just saw this on the BBC Website. The article can be found at the link below, with the final team being:
Goalkeeper: Oliver Kahn (Germany)
Right-back: Lilian Thuram (France)
Centre-back: Fabio Cannavaro (Italy)
Centre-back: Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal)
Left-back: Philipp Lahm (Germany)
Right midfield: David Beckham (England)
Centre midfield: Zinedine Zidane (France)
Left midfield: Luis Figo (Portugal)
Striker: Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal)
Striker: Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands)
Striker: Thierry Henry (France)
Coach: Marcello Lippi (Italy)
Substitutes: Iker Casillas (Spain), Paolo Maldini (Italy) Sergio Ramos (Spain), Xavi Hernandez (Spain), Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic), Wayne Rooney (England), Fernando Torres (Spain).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philminshull/2009/12/a_european_team_for_the_nought.html (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philminshull/2009/12/a_european_team_for_the_nought.html)
I found his reason for Beckhams inclusion particularyl funny, as he mentioned he had good pace.
so the best european side of the decade has no players on the best 11 ??? Xavi, Torres/Villa and Nedved would have to start in my opinion.
Huge question marks over: Lahm?? Becks?? Van Nistelrooy??
No Raul or Del Piero?? And yes Keane should be in it
Quote from: BerfArmagh on December 22, 2009, 12:02:38 PM
Torres should in for rudd. Also Roy keane should be in it
How did I forget about Keane?! Yeah he should definetely be in it if you're looking for a sitting midfielder. Seedorf is another player who was at the top for a long part of this decade.
I think RVN is a cert in it, best goalscorer about whether it be for club or country. David Villa would also be close, definitely ahead of Torres and Rooney.
alrite; ill get the row started; gerrard?
would have thought thered be a place there somewhere for him; subs at least;
or indeed a better right mid option than goldenballs;
not much defensive balance in that midfield tbh
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 22, 2009, 12:06:53 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on December 22, 2009, 12:02:38 PM
Torres should in for rudd. Also Roy keane should be in it
How did I forget about Keane?! Yeah he should definetely be in it if you're looking for a sitting midfielder. Seedorf is another player who was at the top for a long part of this decade.
seedorf wouldn't be near it, an extremely lucky player in that he won 3? Champions Leagues with different clubs. The formation of 4 3 3 was designed to have as many big names as possible on the side. I don't know that Keane should have been on the side, he was definitely waning in the noughties, and he never played in the final stages of the big international tournaments (the idiot).
Del Piero is another who was better in the nineties and whilst he's still there, Juve have been second rate for most of this decade, and he's not been a major influence for the italians either.
How the feck did beckham get in there ahead of the likes of Ronaldinho, Kaka, messi etc
Quote from: nifan on December 22, 2009, 12:22:09 PM
How the feck did beckham get in there ahead of the likes of ............................................... etc
ah, the ever knowledgeable Norn Iron fan shows his football knowledge ;D I'll not quote exactly what you've written so that you can go back and delete it ;)
think the "europe" bit might have something to do with it nifan, lolz....
Is this team based on performance in the Euros and World Cup?. Hence no Keane.
Lahm there because of his wonder goal in 2006. Maldini for me.
Paddy Viera wouldn't be a kick in the arse off it in his prime.
Kaka!!
Hard to pick the best team of the decade. Ya have to think 'who was an unbelievable player back in the early years?!' Back then i doubt many of us knew so much about the other leagues in europe and the 'best' players were more spread out! I dont see Roberto Carlos mentioned and he was unbelievable in the early 00's. Agree with Zidane, Henry and older Ronaldo. Puyol, Luis Figo, Beckham, RVN, Cristiano Ronaldo, Gerrard, Ribery, KaKa, Giggs, Vidic, Alessandro Nesta, Torres and Terry would be there-thereabouts too. Lampard?? Maldini?? Keeper is Casillas I think and Fergie best manager.
Doh, obviously rereading it is european players, not players who play in europe.
Should have read it properly first time!
Sub all those non europeans for Nedved, Pirlo etc
Good to see not only me misreading it goin down:)
No qualms at all with Beckhams inclusion - but Carvalho? lord almighty.
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 22, 2009, 11:56:16 AM
Just saw this on the BBC Website. The article can be found at the link below, with the final team being:
Goalkeeper: Oliver Kahn (Germany) reached his peak in the 2001 champions league final
Right-back: Lilian Thuram (France) fair choice
Centre-back: Fabio Cannavaro (Italy) won italy the world in 2006,managed to hold the defense together with nesta injured
Centre-back: Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal) back bone of chelsea success 2005 & 2006 and not forgetting Porto
Left-back: Philipp Lahm (Germany) Fair choice
Right midfield: David Beckham (England) his best years were before noughties, should be Roy keane
Centre midfield: Zinedine Zidane (France) Fair choice
Left midfield: Luis Figo (Portugal) fair Choice
Striker: Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal) Fair Choice
Striker: Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands) in terms of goals per games was there a better striker in the Noughties?
Striker: Thierry Henry (France) Fair Choice
Coach: Marcello Lippi (Italy) 2 italian titles, & a world cup better than fergie?
Substitutes: Iker Casillas (Spain), Paolo Maldini (Italy) Sergio Ramos (Spain), Xavi Hernandez (Spain), Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic), Wayne Rooney (England), Fernando Torres (Spain).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philminshull/2009/12/a_european_team_for_the_nought.html (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philminshull/2009/12/a_european_team_for_the_nought.html)
I found his reason for Beckhams inclusion particularyl funny, as he mentioned he had good pace.
Dennis Bergkamp...One of the best players ever...
Agree Roy Keane should be in that as well. Tony Adams was also a better player than Carvalho.
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on December 22, 2009, 06:14:11 PM
Dennis Bergkamp...One of the best players ever...
Agree Roy Keane should be in that as well. Tony Adams was also a better player than Carvalho.
Agreed about Denis Bergkamp
Forgot about Bergkamp, twice the player Beckham was.
alot of people are underrating Carvalho this guy was super in the early noughties but terry & cech was getting all the credit ::)
Bergkamp should be on bench at least one of the best players ever to grace the premiership as for Tony Adams i guess his best years were before the noughties
including Rooney & torres kinda surprised me? looking at there facts & figures in the noughties i think not
Torres said Carvalho is the best defender he has played against.
Quote from: nifan on December 22, 2009, 02:32:57 PM
Good to see not only me misreading it goin down:)
Aye, they've no excuse at all!!!
The likes of Bergkamp and Keane were better players than many on this list, but, imo their best years were pre-noughties, I think a lot of us can't accept that we're getting on a bit more than we thought!!
Bergkamp played until 2006, and his best 5 years were probably between between 2000- 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bergkamp
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on December 22, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
Bergkamp played until 2006, and his best 5 years were probably between between 2000- 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bergkamp
Beware.
Some people here don't rate Wikipedia.
But Bergkamp was good.
Quote from: Bogball XV on December 22, 2009, 07:57:06 PM
Quote from: nifan on December 22, 2009, 02:32:57 PM
Good to see not only me misreading it goin down:)
Aye, they've no excuse at all!!!
The likes of Bergkamp and Keane were better players than many on this list, but, imo their best years were pre-noughties, I think a lot of us can't accept that we're getting on a bit more than we thought!!
Keane's peak was probably from 1999 to 2002. In the couple of years after the treble, he dargged United at times to a couple of titles and the alter stages of the Champions League when standards amongst other players had slipped after that night in Barcelona.
Quote from: Denn Forever on December 22, 2009, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on December 22, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
Bergkamp played until 2006, and his best 5 years were probably between between 2000- 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bergkamp
Beware.
Some people here don't rate Wikipedia.
But Bergkamp was good.
Blasphemy!!!!
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on December 22, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
Bergkamp played until 2006, and his best 5 years were probably between between 2000- 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bergkamp
Would've thought he peaked around 1998.
Quote from: AFS on December 22, 2009, 09:22:50 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on December 22, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
Bergkamp played until 2006, and his best 5 years were probably between between 2000- 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bergkamp
Would've thought he peaked around 1998.
I would agree with that, he maybe scored a few cracking premiership goals after that, but he never reached those heights again internationally, but it's all about opinions. I would say the same for Keane, 1999 he was probably the most influential player in europe, after that he was immense for ireland in qualifying for 02, he could have went on to true greatness, but chose not to. For Utd he was mostly excellent, but they never did much of note on a european stage at that time. On reflection, I'll maybe give you Keane, but definitely not Bergkamp ;D
QuoteTorres said Carvalho is the best defender he has played against.
And what? If he told you his favourite movie was Home Alone 4 would you stick that in a thread on the best movies of all time?