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Title: Spuds
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2009, 09:38:18 AM
Laoislad and POG were complaing on another thread about not getting decent pratties.  I am lucky that we get good spuds were I am fresh from the local vegetable man.  We also get fresh veg off him and you can tell the difference in the taste.

Anyway, favourite spuds and how do you cook them?  You can get lovely ballycotton spuds and they are really nice done in the steamer, not having the shite boiled put of them till they are mush.   Nice and flowery lovely with a nice wad of butter salt and white pepper.
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: Lecale2 on October 18, 2009, 09:49:06 AM
I love the spuds but when you steam them they always end up wet.
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 18, 2009, 10:05:24 AM
take the lid of the steamer at the end for a few minutes
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: redhugh on October 18, 2009, 11:05:53 AM
I'm lovinn' the Kerr's pinks at the minute - balls of flour as they say. The rule of thumb with spuds is old cold ,new boiled. New spuds should be covered in boiling water and old spuds in cold.They also need cut to approx the same size as otherwise they will all cook at different times and half your spuds will be cooked to shit while the big ones are still hard.With new spuds especially they need to go back on a very low heat for a minute after they've been drained, just to take out any residual moisture.Kerr's pinks with the skin still on ,salted butter and cracked black pepper - sure tis enough to make a grown man cry.
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 18, 2009, 12:00:00 PM
I like the Queens or Records,steaming them is the only way to go.
Though I do love a few roasties as well.
I also like to make a nice mash with some herbs and black pepper mixed up with it...
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 18, 2009, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: redhugh on October 18, 2009, 11:05:53 AM
I'm lovinn' the Kerr's pinks at the minute - balls of flour as they say. The rule of thumb with spuds is old cold ,new boiled. New spuds should be covered in boiling water and old spuds in cold.They also need cut to approx the same size as otherwise they will all cook at different times and half your spuds will be cooked to shit while the big ones are still hard.With new spuds especially they need to go back on a very low heat for a minute after they've been drained, just to take out any residual moisture.Kerr's pinks with the skin still on ,salted butter and cracked black pepper - sure tis enough to make a grown man cry.
Pray tell what's the difference in starting spuds in cold or boiling water? I start all mine in boiling and not a problem with them. The problem is always the spud not how you cook them. Any spud for mashing should be drained and dryed off on the heat to get them fluffy. Add butter to taste.

Kerrs Pinks today with some roasted in the chicken juices in the oven. ETA 15 mins.  ;D
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: Square Ball on October 18, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
Comber isnt a bad spud, having them with a leg of lamb, turnip, sugar snaps and cauliflower, cant wait as I am starving
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 18, 2009, 01:59:07 PM
Id kill for a proper sunday dinner  :'(
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: redhugh on October 18, 2009, 02:12:13 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 18, 2009, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: redhugh on October 18, 2009, 11:05:53 AM
I'm lovinn' the Kerr's pinks at the minute - balls of flour as they say. The rule of thumb with spuds is old cold ,new boiled. New spuds should be covered in boiling water and old spuds in cold.They also need cut to approx the same size as otherwise they will all cook at different times and half your spuds will be cooked to shit while the big ones are still hard.With new spuds especially they need to go back on a very low heat for a minute after they've been drained, just to take out any residual moisture.Kerr's pinks with the skin still on ,salted butter and cracked black pepper - sure tis enough to make a grown man cry.
Pray tell what's the difference in starting spuds in cold or boiling water? I start all mine in boiling and not a problem with them. The problem is always the spud not how you cook them. Any spud for mashing should be drained and dryed off on the heat to get them fluffy. Add butter to taste.

Kerrs Pinks today with some roasted in the chicken juices in the oven. ETA 15 mins.  ;D

Tony- the reason for this is that old potatoes are less robust as they have a lesser water content and higher starch content, which  means that the boiling water cooks them less evenly often resulting in lumpy spuds.New spuds have a higher water content and their natural sugars have not fully turned to starch, making them more robust and better able to withstand the vigorous cooking that boiling water gives.

Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 18, 2009, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: redhugh on October 18, 2009, 02:12:13 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 18, 2009, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: redhugh on October 18, 2009, 11:05:53 AM
I'm lovinn' the Kerr's pinks at the minute - balls of flour as they say. The rule of thumb with spuds is old cold ,new boiled. New spuds should be covered in boiling water and old spuds in cold.They also need cut to approx the same size as otherwise they will all cook at different times and half your spuds will be cooked to shit while the big ones are still hard.With new spuds especially they need to go back on a very low heat for a minute after they've been drained, just to take out any residual moisture.Kerr's pinks with the skin still on ,salted butter and cracked black pepper - sure tis enough to make a grown man cry.
Pray tell what's the difference in starting spuds in cold or boiling water? I start all mine in boiling and not a problem with them. The problem is always the spud not how you cook them. Any spud for mashing should be drained and dryed off on the heat to get them fluffy. Add butter to taste.

Kerrs Pinks today with some roasted in the chicken juices in the oven. ETA 15 mins.  ;D

Tony- the reason for this is that old potatoes are less robust as they have a lesser water content and higher starch content, which  means that the boiling water cooks them less evenly often resulting in lumpy spuds.New spuds have a higher water content and their natural sugars have not fully turned to starch, making them more robust and better able to withstand the vigorous cooking that boiling water gives.
Is the end result not boiling water in both cases? As I said before all the spuds in our house are started with boiling water and taste good although I take your point that there is more starch in the older spud and if cut too small they tend to disintegrate.
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: Hound on October 18, 2009, 07:03:27 PM
New season Rush Queens. The King of Spuds!!
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: gerry on October 18, 2009, 09:37:40 PM
this is the closest i get to spuds

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jwPPlX4TwYE/SkuFrKax2aI/AAAAAAAAAr4/6_PO6TC1Pnk/s320/CIMG0102+(600+x+450).jpg)
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: comethekingdom on October 18, 2009, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 18, 2009, 09:37:40 PM
this is the closest i get to spuds

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jwPPlX4TwYE/SkuFrKax2aI/AAAAAAAAAr4/6_PO6TC1Pnk/s320/CIMG0102+(600+x+450).jpg)

God help you son!

Go out and get yourself some Golden Wonders and boil them up. You'll not ate anything nicer IMO.
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: gerry on October 18, 2009, 10:30:11 PM
Quote from: comethekingdom on October 18, 2009, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 18, 2009, 09:37:40 PM
this is the closest i get to spuds

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jwPPlX4TwYE/SkuFrKax2aI/AAAAAAAAAr4/6_PO6TC1Pnk/s320/CIMG0102+(600+x+450).jpg)

God help you son!

Go out and get yourself some Golden Wonders and boil them up. You'll not ate anything nicer IMO.

forgot about them, they are lovely


(http://www.goldenwonder.com/assets/pack_crisps_lg1.gif)
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: stew on October 18, 2009, 10:53:47 PM
kerrs pinks are had to bate as are Dublin Queens.

Spuds are the greatest food ever, closely followed by soda bread and bacon.
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: Shamrock Shore on October 18, 2009, 10:58:25 PM
First band managed by Paul McGuinness (well they were actually called Spud).

Minor hit with 'Wind in the Willows' in 1975.

Every single Murphy in history has been called Spud at some point. Except Jimmy Barry.

The question is.....do women like spuds?
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2009, 11:05:22 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on October 18, 2009, 10:58:25 PM
First band managed by Paul McGuinness (well they were actually called Spud).

Minor hit with 'Wind in the Willows' in 1975.

Every single Murphy in history has been called Spud at some point. Except Jimmy Barry.

The question is.....do women like spuds?


They do of course, but never on there own.  I could eat a plate of spuds with butter and salt.  Mrs BC couldn't but she likes them roasted.

Great filling for a feed of stout to have 5-6 spuds.
Title: Re: Spuds
Post by: windyshepardhenderson on October 18, 2009, 11:09:31 PM
fried baked boiled mashed roasted and in parts of south derry raw