Poll
Question:
Have tipp proved the gap is closing?
Option 1: Yes but only tipp have the team
Option 2: Ha,ha your joking kilkenny have another gear
Option 3: yes there are a couple of teams not far off
Option 4: kilkenny still just out of reach, (but not by much)
I think maybe Kilkenny hit the peak of their powers in the 2008 final, and now the games under their belt are starting to tell. I think there are a few teams capable of beating them on the day but what does everyone else think?
Tipp and galway are capable of beating them next season. Don't think anyone else is. But I think one of those two will beat them at some stage next year. But it could happen in the leinster championship which wouldn't overly bother the cats.
I still think Waterford have the ability to upset K.K. or Tipp, They put 2008 behind them this year and will be looking to improve again next year. They missed alot of chances against Tipp in the munster final last year and but for that could have been in that match sunday.
Quote from: lilpaulie85 on September 08, 2009, 05:09:47 PM
I think maybe Kilkenny hit the peak of their powers in the 2008 final, and now the games under their belt are starting to tell. I think there are a few teams capable of beating them on the day but what does everyone else think?
I agree and I've been saying it for a while as well. Kilkenny's preformance in 08 final, was the closest thing I've seen to perfection on a hurling pitch. It's only expected that they'll go down hill after that.
TIpp are right up there, so will Galway, in time, a season or two I hope Cork will be as well, hopefully with full preseasons behind them.
But the gap is closing, slowly but surely.
Just out of reach I think, with a fit Hickey and Cha back next year, Hogan having another year to develop and TJ Reid probably getting a 1st team place I just think they will be take the 5 in a row. 2011 however could be the year to catch them as a few players may call it a day.
Quote from: EddieMerx on September 08, 2009, 06:47:08 PM
Just out of reach I think, with a fit Hickey and Cha back next year, Hogan having another year to develop and TJ Reid probably getting a 1st team place I just think they will be take the 5 in a row. 2011 however could be the year to catch them as a few players may call it a day.
cant see too many retiring with five in a row to aim for
Kilkenny at the moment are a special team all most teams can do is admire them. But maybe next season they'l have an off day and tipp are galway could take. Every Great Team Is Beatable
The gap between Tipp and Kilkenny is narrowing. I wouldn't be so sure about the gap between the rest of them though. Galway are still all potential so I wouldn't get too carried away just yet.
A lot of people seem to think that because Tipp ran them close and probably should have beat them that Kilkenny are on the downward. A wee bit more credit needs to be given to Tipp being on the upward.
Kilkenny started this year with no team anywhere near in sight of beating them. That is bound to affect motivation. Next year they know Tipp will be out to get them and I have a feeling they'll be more motivated.
TJ Reid and Hogan will improve and they have plenty of others to come in too. Tipp will need to develop a stronger panel to beat them and they'll be needing much more from their HF line. (CHF excluded probably but the two wing guys need to do a lot more).
Tipp only made 2 subs on sunday. While things were going right that may also point to not having as much depth as KK.
The great Kerry football team of the seventies was ambushed by a push in the back while going for 5 in a row, it is an amazingly difficult thing to do ( to state the obvious ). I think KK caught a break with the dodgy penalty last Sunday, they may have won anyway we will never know, however Karma being what it is I expect them to be on the wrong end of a refereeing decision next year, Tommy Walsh unfair red card? goal disallowed? something contreversial and them to loose to somewhere along the way, Imay well be wrong but I just have that suspicion, I wonder what the odds are on a Galway Tipp final next year?
While the four in a row is an incredible achivevement, Tipp were the better team last week. So, yeah the gap has closed.
It's closed alright but I wouldn't be surprised to see Kilkeeny kick on again next year to pull further ahead.
Tipp have much better younger talent on their team.
Eddie Brennan, Shefflin and Kavanagh will all be retiring soon.
Quote from: slow corner back on September 10, 2009, 10:29:57 PM
The great Kerry football team of the seventies was ambushed by a push in the back while going for 5 in a row, it is an amazingly difficult thing to do ( to state the obvious ). I think KK caught a break with the dodgy penalty last Sunday, they may have won anyway we will never know, however Karma being what it is I expect them to be on the wrong end of a refereeing decision next year, Tommy Walsh unfair red card? goal disallowed? something contreversial and them to loose to somewhere along the way, Imay well be wrong but I just have that suspicion, I wonder what the odds are on a Galway Tipp final next year?
Kerry lost because they failed to bury a penalty and then proceeded to kick a series of scoreable wides in the last 20 minutes that would have put the game beyond doubt. Kerry got tentative and basically stopped being Kerry against a group who expected to win (even if they were the only ones who did). Breaks are a fact of life and I agree that these things have a way of evening out over time. Kilkenny will lose eventually. The gap is closing and like you say, anything can get in the way to derail any team.
Are KK gone ?? Or are KK not taking the league seriously ?
3 losses in 5 NHL games - not like them.
Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 08:40:44 PM
Are KK gone ?? Or are KK not taking the league seriously ?
3 losses in 5 NHL games - not like them.
Minus the Ballyhale contingent until today. I haven't seen any sign that anyone will beat them this year when they have everyone back.
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2010, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 08:40:44 PM
Are KK gone ?? Or are KK not taking the league seriously ?
3 losses in 5 NHL games - not like them.
Minus the Ballyhale contingent until today. I haven't seen any sign that anyone will beat them this year when they have everyone back.
Galway were without Portumna lads.
Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2010, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 08:40:44 PM
Are KK gone ?? Or are KK not taking the league seriously ?
3 losses in 5 NHL games - not like them.
Minus the Ballyhale contingent until today. I haven't seen any sign that anyone will beat them this year when they have everyone back.
Galway were without Portumna lads.
They had them all last year. Galway might give them a game if they had everyone firing. When people talk now about the Portumna players, well it is really only the Cannings and Joe in particular. The others may find it difficult to nail down a place for Galway.
Galway gave them plenty to think about last year for a long time.
I can see a few chinks on the armour starting to appear/ It's inevitable that the hunger might be on the wane at this stage.
Can someone take advantage or will they he the same hard nut to crack in the summer ?.
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
KK have a long history of bullying, borderline legal anyway, players off the line. Now teams, instead of being bullied off the ball and trying to get at them another way, are now meeting physicaly. And physical meet physical will end up with more sending offs/cards..etc. Imo anyway.
What happened today looked odd. Thought he was playing for a free where we were watching it, then they show the Galway players putting him in the recovery position and well clearly it was a lot more serious then first thought. Don't think there was much in it, only say it once/twice though. Just one of those things I guess.
Hard to tell whether the helmet helped or made it worse.
Quote from: Reillers on March 29, 2010, 12:16:27 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
KK have a long history of bullying, borderline legal anyway, players off the line. Now teams, instead of being bullied off the ball and trying to get at them another way, are now meeting physicaly. And physical meet physical will end up with more sending offs/cards..etc. Imo anyway.
What happened today looked odd. Thought he was playing for a free where we were watching it, then they show the Galway players putting him in the recovery position and well clearly it was a lot more serious then first thought. Don't think there was much in it, only say it once/twice though. Just one of those things I guess.
Hard to tell whether the helmet helped or made it worse.
Yep no different to Cork hatchetmen like Dermot Mc Curtain Reillers. Fergal Ryan was good at lowering the blades too. O Sullivan the same. You really do shovel in the shit you promote don't you?
Quote from: INDIANA on March 29, 2010, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: Reillers on March 29, 2010, 12:16:27 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
KK have a long history of bullying, borderline legal anyway, players off the line. Now teams, instead of being bullied off the ball and trying to get at them another way, are now meeting physicaly. And physical meet physical will end up with more sending offs/cards..etc. Imo anyway.
What happened today looked odd. Thought he was playing for a free where we were watching it, then they show the Galway players putting him in the recovery position and well clearly it was a lot more serious then first thought. Don't think there was much in it, only say it once/twice though. Just one of those things I guess.
Hard to tell whether the helmet helped or made it worse.
Yep no different to Cork hatchetmen like Dermot Mc Curtain Reillers. Fergal Ryan was good at lowering the blades too. O Sullivan the same. You really do shovel in the shit you promote don't you?
Never seen much divilment in McCurtain myself, but the bould Timmy Crowley knew his strengths for sure as JBM's main supplier in chief.
Quote from: johnneycool on March 29, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on March 29, 2010, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: Reillers on March 29, 2010, 12:16:27 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
KK have a long history of bullying, borderline legal anyway, players off the line. Now teams, instead of being bullied off the ball and trying to get at them another way, are now meeting physicaly. And physical meet physical will end up with more sending offs/cards..etc. Imo anyway.
What happened today looked odd. Thought he was playing for a free where we were watching it, then they show the Galway players putting him in the recovery position and well clearly it was a lot more serious then first thought. Don't think there was much in it, only say it once/twice though. Just one of those things I guess.
Hard to tell whether the helmet helped or made it worse.
Yep no different to Cork hatchetmen like Dermot Mc Curtain Reillers. Fergal Ryan was good at lowering the blades too. O Sullivan the same. You really do shovel in the shit you promote don't you?
Never seen much divilment in McCurtain myself, but the bould Timmy Crowley knew his strengths for sure as JBM's main supplier in chief.
Seems to me the only people who whinge about kilkenny's physicality is Cork people like Reillers.
Quote from: johnneycool on March 29, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on March 29, 2010, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: Reillers on March 29, 2010, 12:16:27 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
KK have a long history of bullying, borderline legal anyway, players off the line. Now teams, instead of being bullied off the ball and trying to get at them another way, are now meeting physicaly. And physical meet physical will end up with more sending offs/cards..etc. Imo anyway.
What happened today looked odd. Thought he was playing for a free where we were watching it, then they show the Galway players putting him in the recovery position and well clearly it was a lot more serious then first thought. Don't think there was much in it, only say it once/twice though. Just one of those things I guess.
Hard to tell whether the helmet helped or made it worse.
Yep no different to Cork hatchetmen like Dermot Mc Curtain Reillers. Fergal Ryan was good at lowering the blades too. O Sullivan the same. You really do shovel in the shit you promote don't you?
Never seen much divilment in McCurtain myself, but the bould Timmy Crowley knew his strengths for sure as JBM's main supplier in chief.
He's just having a go at me, childish as ever, probably still sore from the match. KK, and anyone who denies that they do clearly have never seen a game before in their life, play to the edge when it comes to the rules and they are physical and teams are eventually looking at them realising that the only way to beat them is to meet them with physical tactics back. Look at the AI final, the Tipp League game, the Cork League game..and they didn't like one minute of it when you heard the fans afterwards, teams now believe that the only way to beat this KK team is to give as good as they get.
Why Indiana feels the need to drag up something completley irrelevant, just to have a go at me, is more than pathetic. They have got nothing to do with what I've said..I'm talking about KK's tactics now, and how teams are dealing with them. And people denying it, is laughable.
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Quote from: johnneycool on March 29, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on March 29, 2010, 11:28:17 AM
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Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
KK have a long history of bullying, borderline legal anyway, players off the line. Now teams, instead of being bullied off the ball and trying to get at them another way, are now meeting physicaly. And physical meet physical will end up with more sending offs/cards..etc. Imo anyway.
What happened today looked odd. Thought he was playing for a free where we were watching it, then they show the Galway players putting him in the recovery position and well clearly it was a lot more serious then first thought. Don't think there was much in it, only say it once/twice though. Just one of those things I guess.
Hard to tell whether the helmet helped or made it worse.
Yep no different to Cork hatchetmen like Dermot Mc Curtain Reillers. Fergal Ryan was good at lowering the blades too. O Sullivan the same. You really do shovel in the shit you promote don't you?
Never seen much divilment in McCurtain myself, but the bould Timmy Crowley knew his strengths for sure as JBM's main supplier in chief.
Seems to me the only people who whinge about kilkenny's physicality is Cork people like Reillers.
Wasn't giving out about their tactics, just saying for what it is and how people are dealing with it, shocking you havin a go for no reason. And if you think that it's only Cork that have a problem with their physicality than you are clueless.
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Quote from: johnneycool on March 29, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on March 29, 2010, 11:28:17 AM
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Quote from: orangeman on March 28, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
KK have a long history of bullying, borderline legal anyway, players off the line. Now teams, instead of being bullied off the ball and trying to get at them another way, are now meeting physicaly. And physical meet physical will end up with more sending offs/cards..etc. Imo anyway.
What happened today looked odd. Thought he was playing for a free where we were watching it, then they show the Galway players putting him in the recovery position and well clearly it was a lot more serious then first thought. Don't think there was much in it, only say it once/twice though. Just one of those things I guess.
Hard to tell whether the helmet helped or made it worse.
Yep no different to Cork hatchetmen like Dermot Mc Curtain Reillers. Fergal Ryan was good at lowering the blades too. O Sullivan the same. You really do shovel in the shit you promote don't you?
Never seen much divilment in McCurtain myself, but the bould Timmy Crowley knew his strengths for sure as JBM's main supplier in chief.
Seems to me the only people who whinge about kilkenny's physicality is Cork people like Reillers.
Wasn't giving out about their tactics, just saying for what it is and how people are dealing with it, shocking you havin a go for no reason. And if you think that it's only Cork that have a problem with their physicality than you are clueless.
Its a typical Corkmans whinge Reillers. You can't beat them Reillers so you have to cast aspersions on their style of play. There was a time in Cork when they had real hurlers playing for them who could give and take it- you needn't start blaming kilkenny you have a bunch of pussies playing for you now.
Cork thinks the world owes them All-Ireland. Remarkably similar to a lot of Dublin football fans.
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Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
KK have a long history of bullying, borderline legal anyway, players off the line. Now teams, instead of being bullied off the ball and trying to get at them another way, are now meeting physicaly. And physical meet physical will end up with more sending offs/cards..etc. Imo anyway.
What happened today looked odd. Thought he was playing for a free where we were watching it, then they show the Galway players putting him in the recovery position and well clearly it was a lot more serious then first thought. Don't think there was much in it, only say it once/twice though. Just one of those things I guess.
Hard to tell whether the helmet helped or made it worse.
Yep no different to Cork hatchetmen like Dermot Mc Curtain Reillers. Fergal Ryan was good at lowering the blades too. O Sullivan the same. You really do shovel in the shit you promote don't you?
Never seen much divilment in McCurtain myself, but the bould Timmy Crowley knew his strengths for sure as JBM's main supplier in chief.
Seems to me the only people who whinge about kilkenny's physicality is Cork people like Reillers.
Wasn't giving out about their tactics, just saying for what it is and how people are dealing with it, shocking you havin a go for no reason. And if you think that it's only Cork that have a problem with their physicality than you are clueless.
Its a typical Corkmans whinge Reillers. You can't beat them Reillers so you have to cast aspersions on their style of play. There was a time in Cork when they had real hurlers playing for them who could give and take it- you needn't start blaming kilkenny you have a bunch of pussies playing for you now.
Cork thinks the world owes them All-Ireland. Remarkably similar to a lot of Dublin football fans.
Typical again, why can't you actually read the post. I never said there was anythign wrong with their tactics did I. I just said that teams are now matching them up front physically, trying to beat them that way. But instead of actually debating it you choose to attack them personally..yet again. "bunch of pussies"..what are ya a 12 year old girl. I mean ffs. Look at yourself.
The fact that you can't admit what's clear to everyone else, well like I said it shows up what you know of the game. I'm sure if you looked at a Tipp/Waterford/Galway..forum, or went to a good GAA pub there you'd get the same back.
Teams are meeting KK physically to beat them. Tipp almost did it in the final, and should have. They did do it in the League, as did Cork. And Corks game, this Cork teams tactics were total opposite to KK tactics. And they were met and destroyed by KK's tactics in 06 and KK have moved on physically from there.
The fact that you're denying that. Says a lot about your knowledge of the game.
Quote from: Reillers on March 29, 2010, 12:40:51 PM
Tipp almost did it in the final, and should have.
Six months later and you're still spinning that shite. Get over it ffs.
Quote from: hardstation on March 28, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
Are you telling me that Antrim won't be looking at an All Ireland semi final spot (at least) come the summer?
Do you mean an All-Ireland semi-final spot at
most? That would be a spectacular result for Antrim.
The results in the League mean something, and we'll find out what they mean in September. I think Kilkenny will be able to squeeze enough effort out of the players with the Holy Grail of five-in-a-row in sight. Once they've got that thought I wonder whether (hope that) a lot of them will decide they've been at the coalface for too long.
deiseach..are u wise chep
antrim have been knocking at the door for years now, great underage structure and there is great optimisim in the county antrim, and its about time they finally delieverd on their promise.
dinny cahil has apparently brought up pillar caffery for the motivational side of things, things are lookin good
lets jus say, antrim at 750/1 for the liam mc carty are a very good bet
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Quote from: Reillers on March 28, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
..It's the League. Lets all take a breath. I do think they'll be beaten this year. Deserved to be last year, just hung on, and the teams around them are improving and figuring out what needs to be done to beat KK.
Teams are now going out to first and foremost beat KK at their own game, the physical game. Which is something they don't like getting thrown back in their face, if you base it on the reaction of their supporters.
Teams are throwing the kitchen sink at them physically and I'd say, it'll result in a lot of players being sent off if things keep going the way their going.
Do you mean KK's opponents will get a lot of players sent off for being over physical ???
What did you make of the challenge on the Galway goalkeeper today by the way which resulted in him being taken off by ambulance ???
The commentators reckoned there wasn't much wrong with it ?? Would the helmet have had anything to do with it ??
KK have a long history of bullying, borderline legal anyway, players off the line. Now teams, instead of being bullied off the ball and trying to get at them another way, are now meeting physicaly. And physical meet physical will end up with more sending offs/cards..etc. Imo anyway.
What happened today looked odd. Thought he was playing for a free where we were watching it, then they show the Galway players putting him in the recovery position and well clearly it was a lot more serious then first thought. Don't think there was much in it, only say it once/twice though. Just one of those things I guess.
Hard to tell whether the helmet helped or made it worse.
Yep no different to Cork hatchetmen like Dermot Mc Curtain Reillers. Fergal Ryan was good at lowering the blades too. O Sullivan the same. You really do shovel in the shit you promote don't you?
Never seen much divilment in McCurtain myself, but the bould Timmy Crowley knew his strengths for sure as JBM's main supplier in chief.
Seems to me the only people who whinge about kilkenny's physicality is Cork people like Reillers.
Really, if you came to my area, there'd be plenty of giving out about Kk's bullying tactics. The only difference is that we're in a football heartland.
Quote from: derryhero on March 29, 2010, 02:22:19 PM
deiseach..are u wise chep
antrim have been knocking at the door for years now, great underage structure and there is great optimisim in the county antrim, and its about time they finally delieverd on their promise.
dinny cahil has apparently brought up pillar caffery for the motivational side of things, things are lookin good
lets jus say, antrim at 750/1 for the liam mc carty are a very good bet
Fools and their money...
It is interesting to note that Cody hasn't given the league much priority this year.
Did he feel that his players may be tired after several years on the go, so he eased off on them?
He can afford to take that risk being in Leinster though.
Quote from: Ash Smoker on April 08, 2010, 09:22:50 PM
It is interesting to note that Cody hasn't given the league much priority this year.
Did he feel that his players may be tired after several years on the go, so he eased off on them?
He can afford to take that risk being in Leinster though.
A bit hypocritical of someone who goes on and on and on about how important the League is and how important it is to start winning early in the season..
But I suppose it's been a long few years for them, and could well be feeling it. Who knows. No doubt though there'll be a different KK team come Championship, and I agree they can afford not to make the Leauge a priority because they're in Leinster.
Anyone got any quotes from Cody to the effect that they haven't given the League 'much priority' this year? Doesn't ring true
Quote from: Reillers on April 09, 2010, 12:34:06 AM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on April 08, 2010, 09:22:50 PM
It is interesting to note that Cody hasn't given the league much priority this year.
Did he feel that his players may be tired after several years on the go, so he eased off on them?
He can afford to take that risk being in Leinster though.
A bit hypocritical of someone who goes on and on and on about how important the League is and how important it is to start winning early in the season..
But I suppose it's been a long few years for them, and could well be feeling it. Who knows. No doubt though there'll be a different KK team come Championship, and I agree they can afford not to make the Leauge a priority because they're in Leinster.
Wow, for all your digs at Kilkenny and their supporters, now you have a dig at Cody.
Quote from: Reillers on April 09, 2010, 12:34:06 AM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on April 08, 2010, 09:22:50 PM
It is interesting to note that Cody hasn't given the league much priority this year.
Did he feel that his players may be tired after several years on the go, so he eased off on them?
He can afford to take that risk being in Leinster though.
A bit hypocritical of someone who goes on and on and on about how important the League is and how important it is to start winning early in the season..
But I suppose it's been a long few years for them, and could well be feeling it. Who knows. No doubt though there'll be a different KK team come Championship, and I agree they can afford not to make the Leauge a priority because they're in Leinster.
Reillers. Limerick are shite, Clare not much better. Kerry don't play. So Munster is basically a 3 horse race. Leinster is probably a 2 horse race. Is there really much difference?
Munster hurling people need to realise two things.
1) Kilkenny are/were the best team in the country for the past 4-5 years and would have been if they played in Mars.
2) The Munster championship (as a competition) has been dying since the introduction of the expanded qualifiers. It's not the be all and end all any more. I've seen several insipid Munster finals over the past few years, whereas they were always rip roaring affairs at least (even if the quality fluctuated) up until then.
For years Galway used the excuse that playing in a weak connacht final against Roscommon before playing against Leinster or Munster in the All Ireland Semi final was a huge handicap. Now you're saying Kilkenny can pace themselves through Leinster and it's a benefit.
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 12, 2010, 09:25:03 AM
Reillers. Limerick are shite, Clare not much better. Kerry don't play. So Munster is basically a 3 horse race. Leinster is probably a 2 horse race. Is there really much difference?
No. There's a lot of blarney about the Munster championship. I still like it though
Its hard to read too much into the league although it is suprising for Kilkenny to be 5th in the table. I think they are unbeaten in the championship for the last 4 years and when you spend that long at the top it tends to take its toll. Im not sure that the great "second" kilkenny team that people speak about is as good as people would have thought. I still think they are favourites for the all ireland this year, but they will be ran closer in leinster and in the quarter and semi finals
I'm saying that Kilkenny will not win the All Ireland this year.
I think Tipperary, Galway and even Cork and Waterford can take them this year.
Quote from: deiseach on April 10, 2010, 11:03:54 PM
Anyone got any quotes from Cody to the effect that they haven't given the League 'much priority' this year? Doesn't ring true
He doesn't need to say anything.
He allowed 3 teams to beat Kilkenny! ;D