So who will be the most likely to step into the team next year? Coney and red sean i would guess, just cant see mulgrew progressing much though.
Colm Cavanagh's a cert!
There was a big feature in this weeks Gaelic Life about 10 players to make the break through this year.
Cant remember them all but there was Kyle Coney, Aidan Cassidy, Sean O'Neill, Jason McAnulla, Peter Harte.
Mulgrew needs to bulk up a bit more, but maybe 3 years of inter county training and some games will reap dividends for him this year.
Have you had a look at mulgrew during the warm ups for the recent county games? he looked bulked up to me. Anyone else think so?
yeah mulgrew has deffo bulked up over the last couple of years and now has no real problems competing in that respect.
id say he is most likely to break into the team. It usually takes a couple of years after minors to break in with the exception of Sean Cav. Even players like Stephen O'Neill, Brian McGuigan took a couple of years to get into the team, remember O'Neill was a sub for most of 2003 season.
Mulgrew has been around the squad a couple of years now, id expect Coney, McKenna, Teague etc to be drafted in but have to wait a year or two like he had to do. I also hear that Harte rates Mulgrew very highly indeed.
Quote from: sam03/05 on September 01, 2009, 11:03:49 PM
yeah mulgrew has deffo bulked up over the last couple of years and now has no real problems competing in that respect.
id say he is most likely to break into the team. It usually takes a couple of years after minors to break in with the exception of Sean Cav. Even players like Stephen O'Neill, Brian McGuigan took a couple of years to get into the team, remember O'Neill was a sub for most of 2003 season.
Mulgrew has been around the squad a couple of years now, id expect Coney, McKenna, Teague etc to be drafted in but have to wait a year or two like he had to do. I also hear that Harte rates Mulgrew very highly indeed.
Umm, he was an All Star in 2001 - not starting in 03 had more to do with being at college in England for the most of the year.
You gotta wonder why Mulgrew hasn't made the breakthrough yet though....from AS nomination in 07.........to 09..nothing
Kyle Coney was out with an injury this year? It will be interesting to see if he can come back from that for next year...
Raymond Mulgrew has just found it difficult getting a place - he ahs great potential and hopefully will realise that next year
Aidan Cassidy was excellent the few times i saw him this year - has a good opportunity to shine next year
Shaun O'Neill is a great prospect for 2010
not sure if Teague and McKenna can make the jump so quickly
Not sure if Colm Cavanagh has the temperament to make it at this level - even at club level he is an easy target for opponents, and that can be costly during important games
Given the success of the CBS and the Academy over the last 3 years there is every chance that we will have a good line of players coming through, but we are spoilt having 10 or so players on the senior team currently that have played together since minors - its as much a measure of their own ability and commitment as it is Mickey Hartes motivational and coaching skills.
Come on the Rebel!
Kyle Coney has been out injured most of the year and only played 2 league games. The potential is there to be a star but he has a long, long way to go yet and I think some Tyrone fans are getting carried away and have unrealistic expectactions with respect to him.
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 02, 2009, 08:35:09 AM
Kyle Coney has been out injured most of the year and only played 2 league games. The potential is there to be a star but he has a long, long way to go yet and I think some Tyrone fans are getting carried away and have unrealistic expectactions with respect to him.
he had a deadly run in the minor success of 2008 and I was glad that he didnt go AFL...i think C Cavanagh is the same - has the potential but the fans expectation is currently much higher than his ability
Its a massive step up from being an star at minor level to making it onto a team like Tyrone, only the very best can manage it straight away. Mark Lynch is a good example, although he was messed about a bit by being played out of position and probably still is. It can be very hard to move from being the star and getting the ball on demand to only being a cog in the wheel. Coney showed the good and the bad of this in the AI final when he was very hit and miss, to his credit he continued to show for and win the ball.
A player like Mulgrew needs to be played and perservered with in the team to develop, especially in the postion he plays. In the club matches I have seen this year and last the players with the best potential would be O,Neill from Dromore who looks like a very good WHB in the making, Donnelly from Trillick is another who looked the part but maybe another couple of years away. Harte and McKenna have all the attributes needed, skill, pace and from good footballing families but dont need to be rushed.
For all the talk of this being the end of this team, there has only been one team who have looked a step ahead of them this year. I think they would have won against either of the other two semifinalists and its important not to throw the baby out with the bath water. Cork have been building to where they are for the last number of years, if they go on and win it they wont find it as easy next year and if they are beat it could break them. Kerry as always will be the main contender in 2010.
How many of ye can see Harte making drastic changes next year?
We know he can be loyal to his regulars but in recent years he's also shown he can make the big calls too.
Will he fall into the trap of most managers and be slow to remove anyone that has fallen off the pace just cos they did the job in the past or will he be ruthless no matter who is not up to scratch?
Cork were certainly at a higher level than Tyrone & so maybe its rash to be writing people off too soon but what concerned me the most was that we used to have great pace around the whole pitch but that seems lacking now.
I wonder why Eoin McCusker has yet to be drafted in. He looks like a quality player any time I've watched the big ridge. I seem to recall a poster hinting that there is an issue between himself and the beard, whether he snubbed the offer of a place in the squad I don't know. In saying that, said poster could've been Longballs........
Raymond Mulgrew, IMO, is a high quality player and I'm surprised he hasn't got a lot more game time.
He'll never lose or give away a ball even with a slight physqiue - well last I saw anyway. Of anyone to make a breakthrough I'd have thought he'd be your man. Talking about him and a breakthrough seems somewhat strange in my mind though. He got an allstar nominee the other year.
That O'Neill fella from Dromore is in my book a better footballer than Davy Harte but I think that's been discussed to death by Tyrone people anyway.
On another note of players - whatever happened to Paul McGurk the corner back? I didn't know him personally but when I was at university any game you saw him play he completely outplayed any corner forward no matter who they were. Anyone marking him and you could forget about them doing anything for the game.
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 02, 2009, 06:02:33 PM
Raymond Mulgrew, IMO, is a high quality player and I'm surprised he hasn't got a lot more game time.
He'll never lose or give away a ball even with a slight physqiue - well last I saw anyway. Of anyone to make a breakthrough I'd have thought he'd be your man. Talking about him and a breakthrough seems somewhat strange in my mind though. He got an allstar nominee the other year.
That O'Neill fella from Dromore is in my book a better footballer than Davy Harte but I think that's been discussed to death by Tyrone people anyway.
On another note of players - whatever happened to Paul McGurk the corner back? I didn't know him personally but when I was at university any game you saw him play he completely outplayed any corner forward no matter who they were. Anyone marking him and you could forget about them doing anything for the game.
Done his cruciate in the Championship v Armagh in 01 (I think) and couldn't force his way into Harte's plans which was a pity - superb defender.
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 02, 2009, 06:02:33 PM
Raymond Mulgrew, IMO, is a high quality player and I'm surprised he hasn't got a lot more game time.
He'll never lose or give away a ball even with a slight physqiue - well last I saw anyway. Of anyone to make a breakthrough I'd have thought he'd be your man. Talking about him and a breakthrough seems somewhat strange in my mind though. He got an allstar nominee the other year.
That O'Neill fella from Dromore is in my book a better footballer than Davy Harte but I think that's been discussed to death by Tyrone people anyway.
On another note of players - whatever happened to Paul McGurk the corner back? I didn't know him personally but when I was at university any game you saw him play he completely outplayed any corner forward no matter who they were. Anyone marking him and you could forget about them doing anything for the game.
I believe hes about 57 on his next birthday ;D
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on September 02, 2009, 05:36:38 PM
I wonder why Eoin McCusker has yet to be drafted in. He looks like a quality player any time I've watched the big ridge. I seem to recall a poster hinting that there is an issue between himself and the beard, whether he snubbed the offer of a place in the squad I don't know. In saying that, said poster could've been Longballs........
He was one of the ten mentioned in this week's Gaelic Life Mr N, and I think the Dromore lads are hopeful he'll get a run out. Good player.
Anyone think young mckenna may be the answer at mf. Maybe in next couple of years? If oshea was able to make the step up for mayo then surely coney wont be far away
Quote from: tyroneman on September 03, 2009, 11:59:49 AM
Anyone think young mckenna may be the answer at mf. Maybe in next couple of years? If oshea was able to make the step up for mayo then surely coney wont be far away
He has been performing at a high level for Donaghmore all year in the Tyrone senior league and could do a job in the near future. Awesome talent.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 02, 2009, 09:07:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on September 02, 2009, 05:36:38 PM
I wonder why Eoin McCusker has yet to be drafted in. He looks like a quality player any time I've watched the big ridge. I seem to recall a poster hinting that there is an issue between himself and the beard, whether he snubbed the offer of a place in the squad I don't know. In saying that, said poster could've been Longballs........
He was one of the ten mentioned in this week's Gaelic Life Mr N, and I think the Dromore lads are hopeful he'll get a run out. Good player.
can anyone post the gaelic life article?
Will Mickey add or make any changes to his backroom staff?
Armagh men on the go at the minute
Quote from: Logan on September 03, 2009, 12:30:23 PM
Will Mickey add or make any changes to his backroom staff?
Armagh men on the go at the minute
Going everywhere but Armagh. ;)
Looks like Dooher and all are going to carry on next year. There was a team meeting on Monday night - no retirement announcements so far.
Did anyone see Colm O'Rourke's article last Sunday where he listed Tyrone players (among them Dooher, Enda McGinley, Kevin Hughes, Brian McGuigan and Owen Mulligan) whom he thought would be better off retiring and might be sorry later on if they didn't retire now. I might be misquoting O'Rourke a bit as I couldn't find the article online earlier this week, but that's the gist of what he said.
Any opinions?
Quote from: cornafean on September 10, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
Did anyone see Colm O'Rourke's article last Sunday where he listed Tyrone players (among them Dooher, Enda McGinley, Kevin Hughes, Brian McGuigan and Owen Mulligan) whom he thought would be better off retiring and might be sorry later on if they didn't retire now. I might be misquoting O'Rourke a bit as I couldn't find the article online earlier this week, but that's the gist of what he said.
Any opinions?
i can see the arguement for those two , injuries will have taken their toll, but all the others are still only 28/29 with a good few years left in them yet if they choose
Quote from: cornafean on September 10, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
Did anyone see Colm O'Rourke's article last Sunday where he listed Tyrone players (among them Dooher, Enda McGinley, Kevin Hughes, Brian McGuigan and Owen Mulligan) whom he thought would be better off retiring and might be sorry later on if they didn't retire now. I might be misquoting O'Rourke a bit as I couldn't find the article online earlier this week, but that's the gist of what he said.
Any opinions?
He must have finished eating that hat by now. Maybe he wants to be made to look silly again ?.
There is an argument for Dooher, simply due to the toll that it has taken on the body. The rest are well able and fit to play on.
dooher is past it. that was there for all to see this year. his legs are gone and this was no clearer than when he was up against cork. there is no room for the likes of ageing players on teams these days, unless they offer height or pace - neither of which dooher has.
mcguigan is the same. the coolness on the ball he brings is becoming irrelevant: the game is too fast and there is less room for forwards like mcguigan to operate in. his cunning is soon snuffed out. see tyrone v cork semi-final
i think hughes' legs have gone also.
mulligan needs to get leaner/fitter.
mcginley isn't fast enough for mid-field these days. probably best operating around the 1/2 forward line.
Quote from: achtungantrim on September 10, 2009, 03:21:50 PM
dooher is past it. that was there for all to see this year. his legs are gone and this was no clearer than when he was up against cork. there is no room for the likes of ageing players on teams these days, unless they offer height or pace - neither of which dooher has.
mcguigan is the same. the coolness on the ball he brings is becoming irrelevant: the game is too fast and there is less room for forwards like mcguigan to operate in. his cunning is soon snuffed out. see tyrone v cork semi-final
i think hughes' legs have gone also.
mulligan needs to get leaner/fitter.
mcginley isn't fast enough for mid-field these days. probably best operating around the 1/2 forward line.
They were all fit enough and fast enough against antrim !!!
Clearest signal yet of Harte's intentions :
Harte to wield axe
Thursday November 05 2009
THE Tyrone squad can expect the 2010 regime to be the toughest they have ever encountered following the extension of Mickey Harte's reign as manager for a further two years.
His latest term was due to end next year but the Tyrone County Board readily agreed to his request to continue beyond that by announcing on Tuesday night that he would be in charge until at least 2012.
The long-term arrangement will allow Harte to embark on a dramatic overhaul of the squad and, judging by comments in his autobiography, he will approach it with a ruthless attitude.
[size=2]In a clear message to the current squad that they will be under severe pressure to retain their places, he has promised to give six or seven of the 2008 All-Ireland minor-winning team their chance.[/size]
"They will be put on strength and conditioning programmes for the McKenna Cup. If they make it, that means a handful of current panellists are going to lose out. That sends out its own message to everyone. We will retain a large panel for the start of the year but prune it all the way to the championship. There will be no comfort zones. No hiding places, No excuses. We all have things to prove. Success costs. We start paying now."
He also expects that players will ask questions of themselves, however uncomfortable the answers may be.
"They must prove themselves. It's about them. What are they doing. Why should they be considered serious contenders for a starting place? If that forces them to face some uncomfortable truths, they must."
Harte will demand more of himself and his backroom team too. He acknowledges that his role will have to be addressed as part of the renewal process.
connect
"It's a challenge for all of us. My own contribution will have to change. I can push myself harder. I can find new ways to inform our players. I can connect with them better.
"Our experience with Sean Cavanagh on the morning of the Cork game and the way the team failed to counter Cork's kick-out tactic despite all our work shows the need to continually improve our methods of communication with the players. Are they seeing the game as we do? Are we doing enough to understand their state of mind? The coming season is going to force us to monitor individuals more closely."
He has promised to carry out more one-on-one assessments and provide extra details for players on their own performances and development.
He met the squad for a 2009 debrief in early September, during which they were split into groups of five or six. Among the items discussed were whether Tyrone had wandered into a comfort zone this year, did they allow complacency to set in, were they fatigued from training, did they push each other enough and was there sufficient communication among all components of the camp.
At that stage, the squad wouldn't have known that Harte would definitely be in charge until 2012. However, it's now clear that he will be very much the main man for the next three seasons so there can be no escape routes.
"We can't fix what went wrong in 2009. The learning is all for the future," he wrote.
Having been handed the keys to drive Tyrone forward for the next seasons, Harte will now begin examining the engine, a process which is likely to lead to the end of some careers as he sets about rebuilding for the next coming.
- Martin Breheny
Irish Independent
Quote from: orangeman on November 05, 2009, 09:25:43 AM
Clearest signal yet of Harte's intentions :
Harte to wield axe
Thursday November 05 2009
THE Tyrone squad can expect the 2010 regime to be the toughest they have ever encountered following the extension of Mickey Harte's reign as manager for a further two years.
His latest term was due to end next year but the Tyrone County Board readily agreed to his request to continue beyond that by announcing on Tuesday night that he would be in charge until at least 2012.
The long-term arrangement will allow Harte to embark on a dramatic overhaul of the squad and, judging by comments in his autobiography, he will approach it with a ruthless attitude.
[size=2]In a clear message to the current squad that they will be under severe pressure to retain their places, he has promised to give six or seven of the 2008 All-Ireland minor-winning team their chance.[/size]
"They will be put on strength and conditioning programmes for the McKenna Cup. If they make it, that means a handful of current panellists are going to lose out. That sends out its own message to everyone. We will retain a large panel for the start of the year but prune it all the way to the championship. There will be no comfort zones. No hiding places, No excuses. We all have things to prove. Success costs. We start paying now."
He also expects that players will ask questions of themselves, however uncomfortable the answers may be.
"They must prove themselves. It's about them. What are they doing. Why should they be considered serious contenders for a starting place? If that forces them to face some uncomfortable truths, they must."
Harte will demand more of himself and his backroom team too. He acknowledges that his role will have to be addressed as part of the renewal process.
connect
"It's a challenge for all of us. My own contribution will have to change. I can push myself harder. I can find new ways to inform our players. I can connect with them better.
"Our experience with Sean Cavanagh on the morning of the Cork game and the way the team failed to counter Cork's kick-out tactic despite all our work shows the need to continually improve our methods of communication with the players. Are they seeing the game as we do? Are we doing enough to understand their state of mind? The coming season is going to force us to monitor individuals more closely."
He has promised to carry out more one-on-one assessments and provide extra details for players on their own performances and development.
He met the squad for a 2009 debrief in early September, during which they were split into groups of five or six. Among the items discussed were whether Tyrone had wandered into a comfort zone this year, did they allow complacency to set in, were they fatigued from training, did they push each other enough and was there sufficient communication among all components of the camp.
At that stage, the squad wouldn't have known that Harte would definitely be in charge until 2012. However, it's now clear that he will be very much the main man for the next three seasons so there can be no escape routes.
"We can't fix what went wrong in 2009. The learning is all for the future," he wrote.
Having been handed the keys to drive Tyrone forward for the next seasons, Harte will now begin examining the engine, a process which is likely to lead to the end of some careers as he sets about rebuilding for the next coming.
- Martin Breheny
Irish Independent
Remember my name..."FAME"!!
Quotedooher is past it. that was there for all to see this year. his legs are gone and this was no clearer than when he was up against cork. there is no room for the likes of ageing players on teams these days, unless they offer height or pace - neither of which dooher has.
mcguigan is the same. the coolness on the ball he brings is becoming irrelevant: the game is too fast and there is less room for forwards like mcguigan to operate in. his cunning is soon snuffed out. see tyrone v cork semi-final
i think hughes' legs have gone also.
mulligan needs to get leaner/fitter.
mcginley isn't fast enough for mid-field these days. probably best operating around the 1/2 forward line.
Dooher is getting on but I think the fact that he was injured and missed 8 months was the reason why he wasn't on top form. Hughes' legs have gone? He is just after getting Ulster Player of the Year. As for Mulligan he is in good shape and has been this year, and played well in the Championship in a different role. The most laughable comment is the one on McGinley, has he lost his speed overnight? The man is in his prime.
from de Indo
THE Tyrone squad can expect the 2010 regime to be the toughest they have ever encountered following the extension of Mickey Harte's reign as manager for a further two years.
His latest term was due to end next year but the Tyrone County Board readily agreed to his request to continue beyond that by announcing on Tuesday night that he would be in charge until at least 2012.
The long-term arrangement will allow Harte to embark on a dramatic overhaul of the squad and, judging by comments in his autobiography, he will approach it with a ruthless attitude.
In a clear message to the current squad that they will be under severe pressure to retain their places, he has promised to give six or seven of the 2008 All-Ireland minor-winning team their chance.
"They will be put on strength and conditioning programmes for the McKenna Cup. If they make it, that means a handful of current panellists are going to lose out. That sends out its own message to everyone. We will retain a large panel for the start of the year but prune it all the way to the championship. There will be no comfort zones. No hiding places, No excuses. We all have things to prove. Success costs. We start paying now."
He also expects that players will ask questions of themselves, however uncomfortable the answers may be.
"They must prove themselves. It's about them. What are they doing. Why should they be considered serious contenders for a starting place? If that forces them to face some uncomfortable truths, they must."
Harte will demand more of himself and his backroom team too. He acknowledges that his role will have to be addressed as part of the renewal process.
connect
"It's a challenge for all of us. My own contribution will have to change. I can push myself harder. I can find new ways to inform our players. I can connect with them better.
"Our experience with Sean Cavanagh on the morning of the Cork game and the way the team failed to counter Cork's kick-out tactic despite all our work shows the need to continually improve our methods of communication with the players. Are they seeing the game as we do? Are we doing enough to understand their state of mind? The coming season is going to force us to monitor individuals more closely."
He has promised to carry out more one-on-one assessments and provide extra details for players on their own performances and development.
He met the squad for a 2009 debrief in early September, during which they were split into groups of five or six. Among the items discussed were whether Tyrone had wandered into a comfort zone this year, did they allow complacency to set in, were they fatigued from training, did they push each other enough and was there sufficient communication among all components of the camp.
At that stage, the squad wouldn't have known that Harte would definitely be in charge until 2012. However, it's now clear that he will be very much the main man for the next three seasons so there can be no escape routes.
"We can't fix what went wrong in 2009. The learning is all for the future," he wrote.
Having been handed the keys to drive Tyrone forward for the next seasons, Harte will now begin examining the engine, a process which is likely to lead to the end of some careers as he sets about rebuilding for the next coming.
- Martin Breheny
surely harte has something to prove at this stage as well with the sean kavanagh debacle.
As regards dooher - we already seen the folly of getting rid of experienced players in Dublin. Wouldn't recommend it. Youth is seen as some sort of a recipe for success these days. kerry this year proved that theory to be bullshit.
Quote from: INDIANA on November 06, 2009, 12:25:49 PM
surely harte has something to prove at this stage as well with the sean kavanagh debacle.
As regards dooher - we already seen the folly of getting rid of experienced players in Dublin. Wouldn't recommend it. Youth is seen as some sort of a recipe for success these days. kerry this year proved that theory to be bullshit.
I don't think he has anything to prove. The book has been launched. I'd say that 'debacle' is pretty much over.
Quote from: Zapatista on November 06, 2009, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on November 06, 2009, 12:25:49 PM
surely harte has something to prove at this stage as well with the sean kavanagh debacle.
As regards dooher - we already seen the folly of getting rid of experienced players in Dublin. Wouldn't recommend it. Youth is seen as some sort of a recipe for success these days. kerry this year proved that theory to be bullshit.
I don't think he has anything to prove. The book has been launched. I'd say that 'debacle' is pretty much over.
I doubt it. Harte directly questioned Cavanagh's commitment to meeting the massive expectations he has set himself. Reading between the lines in the book- he thinks Cavanagh bottled it. I thought it was appalling on Harte's behalf quite honestly considering Cavanagh is probably the best player in the country.
Quote from: INDIANA on November 06, 2009, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on November 06, 2009, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on November 06, 2009, 12:25:49 PM
surely harte has something to prove at this stage as well with the sean kavanagh debacle.
As regards dooher - we already seen the folly of getting rid of experienced players in Dublin. Wouldn't recommend it. Youth is seen as some sort of a recipe for success these days. kerry this year proved that theory to be bullshit.
I don't think he has anything to prove. The book has been launched. I'd say that 'debacle' is pretty much over.
I doubt it. Harte directly questioned Cavanagh's commitment to meeting the massive expectations he has set himself. Reading between the lines in the book- he thinks Cavanagh bottled it. I thought it was appalling on Harte's behalf quite honestly considering Cavanagh is probably the best player in the country.
It doesnt really matter what you think though because by the time the season starts it will all be forgot about. If anything it will push Cavanagh more to get back to his form of 08 injuries permitting.
Quote from: INDIANA on November 06, 2009, 12:41:05 PM
I doubt it. Harte directly questioned Cavanagh's commitment to meeting the massive expectations he has set himself. Reading between the lines in the book- he thinks Cavanagh bottled it. I thought it was appalling on Harte's behalf quite honestly considering Cavanagh is probably the best player in the country.
No he didn't. Harte directly questioned his management of the situation in the build up and at that time. In the context of the book there is no need to read between the lines. It's all in the lines.
Quote from: oakleafgael on November 06, 2009, 12:44:39 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on November 06, 2009, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on November 06, 2009, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on November 06, 2009, 12:25:49 PM
surely harte has something to prove at this stage as well with the Sean kavanagh debacle.
As regards dooher - we already seen the folly of getting rid of experienced players in Dublin. Wouldn't recommend it. Youth is seen as some sort of a recipe for success these days. kerry this year proved that theory to be bullshit.
I don't think he has anything to prove. The book has been launched. I'd say that 'debacle' is pretty much over.
I doubt it. Harte directly questioned Cavanagh's commitment to meeting the massive expectations he has set himself. Reading between the lines in the book- he thinks Cavanagh bottled it. I thought it was appalling on Harte's behalf quite honestly considering Cavanagh is probably the best player in the country.
It doesnt really matter what you think though because by the time the season starts it will all be forgot about. If anything it will push Cavanagh more to get back to his form of 08 injuries permitting.
I'd have to agree with Oakleafgael. Sean may have been annoyed at what MH said, but even if he is, it's not as if he's going to let it affect his commitment to winning. If anything it could give him another source of motivation. I don't believe that there has to be a personal like/dislike relationship between manager and player. As long as both are committed to the cause that should be enough to bridge any gaps. No matter what Sean might now think of Mickey personally I'm sure he knows he's the best man for the job and will be content with that.
Mickey Harte has played a huge role in big Sean's life for a long time now,the two know each other well and there is obviously a great deal of mutual respect.Mickey said what he did in the book and Sean came out and responded to it.Matter well and truly closed in my poinion.Why do people feel the need to keep digging for more dirt on the matter.It has been dealt with. Mickey has acknowledged that there was work to be done and that there were communication issues which for me is him saying mistakes have been made and will be learnt from.Communication is a two way street ,so in part he is accepting some responsibility.
Not digging for anything- as said above its a natural reaction to actually reading the book which I have and thats the inference I drew from it. You wouldn't hear Brian Cody making such a gaffe- was surprsied at Harte. Its a big year for him as well considering the talent he has at this disposal.Hope he realises it.
QuoteYou wouldn't hear Brian Cody making such a gaffe- was surprsied at Harte.
That's cause that man doesn't say anything high up or low down. A book by Cody should be avoided unless you want to read how Laois (after a 30 point beating) gave Kilkenny a real good test.
Quote from: INDIANA on November 06, 2009, 02:59:12 PM
Not digging for anything- as said above its a natural reaction to actually reading the book which I have and thats the inference I drew from it. You wouldn't hear Brian Cody making such a gaffe- was surprsied at Harte. Its a big year for him as well considering the talent he has at this disposal.Hope he realises it.
Indiana - did'nt mean that it was you digging ,just mean folk in general.I was as surprised as you when I read the part about Sean and the Cork game and posted to that effect. I just think that it's been kicked about for long enough.I was'nt getting at anyone in particular just making the point.
Quote from: Zulu on November 06, 2009, 03:03:59 PM
QuoteYou wouldn't hear Brian Cody making such a gaffe- was surprsied at Harte.
That's cause that man doesn't say anything high up or low down. A book by Cody should be avoided unless you want to read how Laois (after a 30 point beating) gave Kilkenny a real good test.
In fairness Zulu Harte's comments on Cavanagh were of tommy lyons-esque proportions. Thats the point I was making.
Its alright talking in the papers about how many players you're going to cut, and giving minors chances and bla, bla bla. Just somewhere along the lines maybe he should realise his selections last year didn't cover him in glory especially against Cork.