This came up a few months back when someone said Hurling would be up there.
I saw this youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kp2J8gW1qw and a
golf ball was clocked at 204mph
Jai alai - 188 mph
Tennis - 153 mph
Baseball - 127 mph
Anyone got a figure for Hurling
Hang on. That's the fastest the ball moves at. That's not what people mean when they say hurling is the fastest field game. They mean the speed the ball moves around the pitch, the speed the players move at etc etc.
The most I have seen a hurling ball move is around 105mph on a speed cage
Agree with AZ was always told that Hurling was the fastest team field sport in the world.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 24, 2009, 10:26:53 AM
Hang on. That's the fastest the ball moves at. That's not what people mean when they say hurling is the fastest field game. They mean the speed the ball moves around the pitch, the speed the players move at etc etc.
AZ - I know all about the idea that Hurling is the fastest team sport.
Someone back in Feb had mentioned about the speed a Hurling ball can get to. I merely asked if anyone had recorded a speed for it.
If Baseball is at 127 - I'd imagine a Sliotar would travel faster.
Quote from: Maroon Heaven on August 24, 2009, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 24, 2009, 10:26:53 AM
Hang on. That's the fastest the ball moves at. That's not what people mean when they say hurling is the fastest field game. They mean the speed the ball moves around the pitch, the speed the players move at etc etc.
AZ - I know all about the idea that Hurling is the fastest team sport.
Someone back in Feb had mentioned about the speed a Hurling ball can get to. I merely asked if anyone had recorded a speed for it.
If Baseball is at 127 - I'd imagine a Sliotar would travel faster.
I would love to see someone who could hit 127 but one of the best strikers of a ball in antrim was going full pelt to hit it around 105. I couldn't see a jump of over 20mph
Is a baseball not heavier and would therefore travel faster ?
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 24, 2009, 10:53:13 AM
Is a baseball not heavier and would therefore travel faster ?
But with a baseball it is been thrown in the opposite direction as it will be hit - so surely that takes some of the speed off it.
Quote from: Maroon Heaven on August 24, 2009, 11:02:18 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 24, 2009, 10:53:13 AM
Is a baseball not heavier and would therefore travel faster ?
But with a baseball it is been thrown in the opposite direction as it will be hit - so surely that takes some of the speed off it.
Not sure, just wiki'd it there and 100 mph was the answer?!?
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 24, 2009, 10:26:53 AM
Hang on. That's the fastest the ball moves at. That's not what people mean when they say hurling is the fastest field game. They mean the speed the ball moves around the pitch, the speed the players move at etc etc.
I think what they mean is they haven't a clue. I've always taken that "fastest field game in the world" line as meaningless guff. Just part of the old misty-eyed hurling-good, football-bad propaganda. Who measured it? And what did they measure? And when was it announced? And what does it mean? And who cares?
And that's from someone who likes the game.
Quote from: Maroon Heaven on August 24, 2009, 11:02:18 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 24, 2009, 10:53:13 AM
Is a baseball not heavier and would therefore travel faster ?
But with a baseball it is been thrown in the opposite direction as it will be hit - so surely that takes some of the speed off it.
I think this puts speed on the ball, the change of momentum is greater or something, for example in soccer try heading a ball coming at you at pace in the opposite direction, you get alot more pace on it than if you threw it up for yourself. As someone else has already mentioned, this quote that hurling is the fastest ball game in the world, is such a load of bollix, what are you measuring.
Is polo not faster?
Surely a pony can run faster than most hurlers?
Jai alai - now there's a sport!!
There was this yank who was in college with me who used to play it. You'd know about it if you got a belt of that ball the speed it goes at.
Quote from: the colonel on August 24, 2009, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: Maroon Heaven on August 24, 2009, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 24, 2009, 10:26:53 AM
Hang on. That's the fastest the ball moves at. That's not what people mean when they say hurling is the fastest field game. They mean the speed the ball moves around the pitch, the speed the players move at etc etc.
AZ - I know all about the idea that Hurling is the fastest team sport.
Someone back in Feb had mentioned about the speed a Hurling ball can get to. I merely asked if anyone had recorded a speed for it.
If Baseball is at 127 - I'd imagine a Sliotar would travel faster.
I would love to see someone who could hit 127 but one of the best strikers of a ball in antrim was going full pelt to hit it around 105. I couldn't see a jump of over 20mph
Was this clocked Colonel???
Quote from: Mario on August 24, 2009, 11:35:12 AM
Quote from: Maroon Heaven on August 24, 2009, 11:02:18 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 24, 2009, 10:53:13 AM
Is a baseball not heavier and would therefore travel faster ?
But with a baseball it is been thrown in the opposite direction as it will be hit - so surely that takes some of the speed off it.
I think this puts speed on the ball, the change of momentum is greater or something, for example in soccer try heading a ball coming at you at pace in the opposite direction, you get alot more pace on it than if you threw it up for yourself. As someone else has already mentioned, this quote that hurling is the fastest ball game in the world, is such a load of bollix, what are you measuring.
Surely the speeds in baseball refer to pitching speeds, not the speed coming off the bat, no?
A baseball field generally measure 99 meters or more from plate to fence which means that a player would need to hit the ball at least 99 meters in the air to hit a home run, 99 meters is a longer distance than than most people can hit a hurling ball, the greater the distance the greater the speed needed to clear that distance so a baseball being hit for a home run would be travelling faster than most hurling balls. A pro golfer can hit a golf ball 300 yards plus so a golf ball is travelling much faster than a baseball or a hurling ball. I always heard hurling was the 2nd fastest field sport after ice hockey. Not sure how they would calculate or whether they would count baseball as a field sport in that it is 1 player hitting against 8 outfield players.
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 24, 2009, 01:29:14 PM
A baseball field generally measure 99 meters or more from plate to fence which means that a player would need to hit the ball at least 99 meters in the air to hit a home run, 99 meters is a longer distance than than most people can hit a hurling ball, the greater the distance the greater the speed needed to clear that distance so a baseball being hit for a home run would be travelling faster than most hurling balls. A pro golfer can hit a golf ball 300 yards plus so a golf ball is travelling much faster than a baseball or a hurling ball. I always heard hurling was the 2nd fastest field sport after ice hockey. Not sure how they would calculate or whether they would count baseball as a field sport in that it is 1 player hitting against 8 outfield players.
Your forgetting mass ,aero dynamics and trajectory
We ned to get one of those big speed guns and get some hurler to clock a time.
Just because Tiger woods is good at golf does not make hit the golf ball hardest. We need some tank of a hurler who would be able to take out a small extension with a poc
Quote from: Maroon Heaven on August 24, 2009, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 24, 2009, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: Maroon Heaven on August 24, 2009, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 24, 2009, 10:26:53 AM
Hang on. That's the fastest the ball moves at. That's not what people mean when they say hurling is the fastest field game. They mean the speed the ball moves around the pitch, the speed the players move at etc etc.
AZ - I know all about the idea that Hurling is the fastest team sport.
Someone back in Feb had mentioned about the speed a Hurling ball can get to. I merely asked if anyone had recorded a speed for it.
If Baseball is at 127 - I'd imagine a Sliotar would travel faster.
I would love to see someone who could hit 127 but one of the best strikers of a ball in antrim was going full pelt to hit it around 105. I couldn't see a jump of over 20mph
Was this clocked Colonel???
yeah it was in cushendall and was clocked with one of those laser gun type yokes
Quote from: Gnevin on August 24, 2009, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 24, 2009, 01:29:14 PM
A baseball field generally measure 99 meters or more from plate to fence which means that a player would need to hit the ball at least 99 meters in the air to hit a home run, 99 meters is a longer distance than than most people can hit a hurling ball, the greater the distance the greater the speed needed to clear that distance so a baseball being hit for a home run would be travelling faster than most hurling balls. A pro golfer can hit a golf ball 300 yards plus so a golf ball is travelling much faster than a baseball or a hurling ball. I always heard hurling was the 2nd fastest field sport after ice hockey. Not sure how they would calculate or whether they would count baseball as a field sport in that it is 1 player hitting against 8 outfield players.
Your forgetting mass ,aero dynamics and trajectory
No i'm just saying a baseball travels further than a sloither so therefore the speed has to be greater. The fact that a hurling ball has more air resistance than a baseball is a fact which contributes to it's overall velocity.
Someone in Antrim hitting a ball at 105 mph sounds about right if the speed of a baseball is 127 mph. A good goalkeeper would do well to hit a hurling ball 90 meters.
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 24, 2009, 02:26:42 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on August 24, 2009, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 24, 2009, 01:29:14 PM
A baseball field generally measure 99 meters or more from plate to fence which means that a player would need to hit the ball at least 99 meters in the air to hit a home run, 99 meters is a longer distance than than most people can hit a hurling ball, the greater the distance the greater the speed needed to clear that distance so a baseball being hit for a home run would be travelling faster than most hurling balls. A pro golfer can hit a golf ball 300 yards plus so a golf ball is travelling much faster than a baseball or a hurling ball. I always heard hurling was the 2nd fastest field sport after ice hockey. Not sure how they would calculate or whether they would count baseball as a field sport in that it is 1 player hitting against 8 outfield players.
Your forgetting mass ,aero dynamics and trajectory
No i'm just saying a baseball travels further than a sloither so therefore the speed has to be greater. The fact that a hurling ball has more air resistance than a baseball is a fact which contributes to it's overall velocity.
Someone in Antrim hitting a ball at 105 mph sounds about right if the speed of a baseball is 127 mph. A good goalkeeper would do well to hit a hurling ball 90 meters.
A baseball hit 90 degrees in the air will not go very far. You can't simplify this to be more speed= more distance
Apparently the answer to this question is Jai alai
Quote from: Gnevin on August 24, 2009, 03:22:05 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 24, 2009, 02:26:42 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on August 24, 2009, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 24, 2009, 01:29:14 PM
A baseball field generally measure 99 meters or more from plate to fence which means that a player would need to hit the ball at least 99 meters in the air to hit a home run, 99 meters is a longer distance than than most people can hit a hurling ball, the greater the distance the greater the speed needed to clear that distance so a baseball being hit for a home run would be travelling faster than most hurling balls. A pro golfer can hit a golf ball 300 yards plus so a golf ball is travelling much faster than a baseball or a hurling ball. I always heard hurling was the 2nd fastest field sport after ice hockey. Not sure how they would calculate or whether they would count baseball as a field sport in that it is 1 player hitting against 8 outfield players.
Your forgetting mass ,aero dynamics and trajectory
No i'm just saying a baseball travels further than a sloither so therefore the speed has to be greater. The fact that a hurling ball has more air resistance than a baseball is a fact which contributes to it's overall velocity.
Someone in Antrim hitting a ball at 105 mph sounds about right if the speed of a baseball is 127 mph. A good goalkeeper would do well to hit a hurling ball 90 meters.
A baseball hit 90 degrees in the air will not go very far. You can't simplify this to be more speed= more distance
You can, more speed = more distance even if that distance up in the air. If both are hit at the same angle the 1 hit the greatest horizontal velocity will travel further (unless they are both hit straight up in the air in which case they will both travel 0 meters).
The fastest field sport in the world is Hurling, non automated team sport is ice hockey which is the only sport faster than hurling.
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 24, 2009, 03:32:35 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on August 24, 2009, 03:22:05 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 24, 2009, 02:26:42 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on August 24, 2009, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 24, 2009, 01:29:14 PM
A baseball field generally measure 99 meters or more from plate to fence which means that a player would need to hit the ball at least 99 meters in the air to hit a home run, 99 meters is a longer distance than than most people can hit a hurling ball, the greater the distance the greater the speed needed to clear that distance so a baseball being hit for a home run would be travelling faster than most hurling balls. A pro golfer can hit a golf ball 300 yards plus so a golf ball is travelling much faster than a baseball or a hurling ball. I always heard hurling was the 2nd fastest field sport after ice hockey. Not sure how they would calculate or whether they would count baseball as a field sport in that it is 1 player hitting against 8 outfield players.
Your forgetting mass ,aero dynamics and trajectory
No i'm just saying a baseball travels further than a sloither so therefore the speed has to be greater. The fact that a hurling ball has more air resistance than a baseball is a fact which contributes to it's overall velocity.
Someone in Antrim hitting a ball at 105 mph sounds about right if the speed of a baseball is 127 mph. A good goalkeeper would do well to hit a hurling ball 90 meters.
A baseball hit 90 degrees in the air will not go very far. You can't simplify this to be more speed= more distance
You can, more speed = more distance even if that distance up in the air. If both are hit at the same angle the 1 hit the greatest horizontal velocity will travel further (unless they are both hit straight up in the air in which case they will both travel 0 meters).
All things being equal then more speed=more distance but in your golf and baseball example all things are not equal .
get yourselves down to the croke park museum where there's a hurling alley that measures your ball speed.
not sure how accurate it is and think it's more of a fun gimmick but apparently the fastest recorded by a inter-county hurler was 140kmph. I myself got 121 kmph.
its good fun all the same, especially when there's a group of french students behind in awe.
we have a winner
GOLF
World records
Canadian long drive champion, Jason Zuback broke the world ball speed record on an episode of Sports Science with a golf ball speed of 328 km/h (204 mph).
The most widely quoted response is Nolan Ryan, whose fastball was "officially" clocked by the Guinness Book of World Records at 100.9 miles per hour in a game played on August 20, 1974 versus the Chicago White Sox. A record that's still included in the book.
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/articles/fastest-pitcher-in-baseball.shtml
Everyone with the 153 mph serve has outdated info! The current record still lies with Andy Roddick, but has increased to 155 mph, or 249.4 kph. It happened on September 27, 2004 in a Davis Cup match against Belarus. Roddick was playing Vladimir Voltchkov and the serve set him up with three match points. Needless to say, it was an ace!
cricket
shoaib akhtar set a world record by clocking 160.9km/h (100mph) twice.
The Basque Government promotes jai alai as "the fastest sport in the world" because of the balls' speed. A 125g–140g ball covered with goatskin can travel up to 302 km/h (188mph) (José Ramón Areitio at the Newport Jai Alai, Rhode Island).