Well lads, getting slated in work at the minute for stating that I would have Benny Coulter on an All-Ireland XV. In my opinion his goal record playing for an under achieving Down team speaks for itself.
Thoughts?
Going by this year so far he'd definitely make it with Kavanagh and Gooch below par. Paddy Bradley and Bernard Brogan the other 2 automatic choices.
Definetely one of the best in the country,a terrific talent.
Whether hed make an All Ireland XV,i dont know,He would certainly not be far away
He'd be on the panel anyway, but sure about the first 15 though.
Benny is a legend. He is the top international rules forward every time. He would be very close to being in the top 6 forwards. Imagine him on the Tyrone or Kerry team.
Not a prolific enough point scorer to be considered one of the top forwards IMHO.
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on July 15, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
. He is the top international rules forward every time.
Is he? ???
Quote from: Jinxy on July 15, 2009, 03:07:01 PM
Not a prolific enough point scorer to be considered one of the top forwards IMHO.
Free's contribute to a lot of the top scorers though jinxy
He is a class act
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on July 15, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
. He is the top international rules forward every time.
Is he? ???
You can't say he hasn't played well for Ireland, he does some amount of scoring every series...
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on July 15, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
. He is the top international rules forward every time.
Is he? ???
You can't say he hasn't played well for Ireland, he does some amount of scoring every series...
No one said he hasnt played well nail
You said
"He is the top international rules forward every time"
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on July 15, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
. He is the top international rules forward every time.
Is he? ???
You can't say he hasn't played well for Ireland, he does some amount of scoring every series...
Difference between playing well and being the top forward
every time. It'd be fair to say that he's a better international rules player than gaelic footballer though clearly he's a talented footballer. Have noticed he seems to have cut out going for goals from ridiculous positions
International Rules Stats (2005)
Ireland: Mickey McVeigh; Sean
Og O hAilpin, Graham Canty, Tomas O Se; Ciaran McManus, Tom Kelly, Bryan Cullen; Sean Cavanagh, Ciaran McDonald; Brian Dooher, Benny Coulter, Stephen O'Neill; Matty Forde, Padraic Joyce, Owen Mulligan.
Interchange Subs:
Eoin Brosnan; Ronan Clarke, Colm Cooper, David Heaney, Sean Martin Lockhart, Anthony Lynch, Brian McGuigan, Michael Meehan.
Ireland Scorers: Brendan Coulter (2-1-3) 18pts; Sean Cavanagh (1-2-1) 13pts; Ronan Clarke
(0-3-2) 11pts; Stephen O'Neill (0-3-2) 11pts; Ciaran McDonald (0-1-1) 4pts; Mattie Forde (0-1-0) 3pts; Eoin Brosnan (0-0-2) 2pts; Padraic Joyce (0-0-1) 1pt.
Australia: Dustin Fletcher; Lindsay Gilbee, Darren Milburn, Dale Morris; Andrew McLeod, Brent Deleidio, Daniel Giansiracusa; Chris Newman, Luke Hodge; Matthew Lappin, Nathan Eagleton, Brent Harvey; Aaron Davy, Nick Davis, Chris Johnson.
Interchange Players: Ryan O'Keefe, Shannon Grant, Keplar Bradley, Heath Black, Trent Croad, Amon Buchanan, Russell Robertson, Andrew Lovett.
Australia Scorers: Andrew Lovett (1-3-0) 15pts; Shannon Grant (0-3-1) 10pts; Nick Davis (0-3-1) 10pts; Luke Hodge (0-3-0) 9pts; Chris Johnson (1-1-0) 9pts; Ryan O'Keefe (0-2-2) 8pts; Aaron Davy (0-2-1) 7pts; Daniel Giansiracusa (0-2-0) 6pts; Lindsay Gilbee (0-2-0) 6pts; Nathan Eagleton (0-1-0) 3pts; Matthew Lappin (0-1-0) 3pts; Trent Croad (0-1-0) 3pts; Brent Harvey (0-1-0) 3pts; Amon Buchanan (0-1-0) 3pts; Chris Newman (0-1-0) 3pts; Russell Robertson (0-0-2) 2pts.
BESTOf The Irish
Benny Coulter
Laois star Tom Kelly looked impressive until he was taken out by a late challenge from Russell Robertson. Armagh's Ronan Clarke put in a fantastic second quarter when he landed three superb overs. Sean Cavanagh strutted his stuff in the final quarter.
Benny Coulter was the only Irish player who maintained a consistent level of excellence from start to finish. His tally of 18 points made him the game's top scorer. Apart from his contribution to the scoreboard, Coulter was also the only Irish player who took a clean catch above his head.
This is from last year when his goal won it for Ireland
Benny Coulter (Down): Scored two goals. A bad tip cost him a third but he still managed an over. His last goal won the game for Ireland. A supreme goal-poacher. (7)
Can't be bothered trailing through the rest, I am not saying he is the best EVERY time, just that hes very very good.
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 03:18:03 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on July 15, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
. He is the top international rules forward every time.
Is he? ???
You can't say he hasn't played well for Ireland, he does some amount of scoring every series...
No one said he hasnt played well nail
You said "He is the top international rules forward every time"
I said no such thing. Mid Down Gael said that.
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 03:08:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 15, 2009, 03:07:01 PM
Not a prolific enough point scorer to be considered one of the top forwards IMHO.
Free's contribute to a lot of the top scorers though jinxy
He is a class act
What I mean is in order to be considered a top forward he would want to be contributing 3/4 points from play on a regular basis.
It seems to me that he doesn't really do this that often.
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 03:18:03 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on July 15, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
. He is the top international rules forward every time.
Is he? ???
You can't say he hasn't played well for Ireland, he does some amount of scoring every series...
No one said he hasnt played well nail
You said "He is the top international rules forward every time"
I said no such thing. Mid Down Gael said that.
Apologies ONL
Mid Down Gael, you are talking jibberish
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on July 15, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
. He is the top international rules forward every time.
Is he? ???
You can't say he hasn't played well for Ireland, he does some amount of scoring every series...
Of course I couldn't, the man is a legend and the one saving grace if Down won Sam is that he would get a deserved All-Ireland.
That said, he has not been "the top internation rules forward every time".
Benny may not average 0-4 or 0-5 from play,But
he normaly chips in with 1-1 or a couple of goals,
He also sets up alot of scores,
he is a game changer who requires extra attention from Backs, as few defenders can cope with his pace,strength and aerial ability one on one.
Hes not the best forward in the country but hes definetely in the top say 8 forwards in the country.
Cracking player
Not many teams in Ireland, if any, wouldnt want him in their forward line
The point he scored in Enniskillen whilst clearly unfit was brilliant, as was the 1 he scored against Laois on Saturday night in diabolical conditions. His goal was also a cracker, the way he played Saturday night running up and down the field all night was brilliant to see. Much better than in the past when we have used him as a target man and he's wasted and out of games for long spells! He seems to be extrememly fit at the minute and hope we can get a massive performance from him again this saturday. He is a super talent and can have moments of brilliance in matches that are pure class! If we can progress past Wicklow and he has another great game playing the same kind of role, it would be great to see him pitted against tougher opposition and get a bit more credit for how good he really is!
Quote from: D4S on July 15, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
The point he scored in Enniskillen whilst clearly unfit was brilliant, as was the 1 he scored against Laois on Saturday night in diabolical conditions. His goal was also a cracker, the way he played Saturday night running up and down the field all night was brilliant to see. Much better than in the past when we have used him as a target man and he's wasted and out of games for long spells! He seems to be extrememly fit at the minute and hope we can get a massive performance from him again this saturday. He is a super talent and can have moments of brilliance in matches that are pure class! If we can progress past Wicklow and he has another great game playing the same kind of role, it would be great to see him pitted against tougher opposition and get a bit more credit for how good he really is!
The point from the sideline on Sat night was unreal, nobody expected him to shoot from that position he was in...
Was brilliant to see him getting on the ball so much there on sat instead of standing up at full forward with his hands by his sides...
His running on Sat was excellent, he was just powering past players with ease
And yes before anyone says we know this was a poor enough Laois team but its just great to see him flying after Enniskillen where he shouldn't have started.
Quote from: D4S on July 15, 2009, 03:54:23 PM! If we can progress past Wicklow and he has another great game playing the same kind of role, it would be great to see him pitted against tougher opposition and get a bit more credit for how good he really is!
On the other hand he could be nullified by tougher opposition resulting in people thinking he is not s good as once thought.
cracking player but his scores tend to come against weaker sides - moreso because of downs stature over the last decade than his own fault.
Hasnt really been tested consistently against the cream of the countrys defenders to be counted as "top 6" material. did ok against Tyrone last year and was then taken to the cleaners by Ciaran McKeever against Armagh.
I've no doubt as to his ability but as I say, I'm not sure about his scoring considering he isnt facing the greatest opposition. Excellent Compromise Rules footballer.
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Quote from: D4S on July 15, 2009, 03:54:23 PM! If we can progress past Wicklow and he has another great game playing the same kind of role, it would be great to see him pitted against tougher opposition and get a bit more credit for how good he really is!
On the other hand he could be nullified by tougher opposition resulting in people thinking he is not s good as once thought.
One bad game doesn't make him a bad footballer though
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:05:15 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Quote from: D4S on July 15, 2009, 03:54:23 PM! If we can progress past Wicklow and he has another great game playing the same kind of role, it would be great to see him pitted against tougher opposition and get a bit more credit for how good he really is!
On the other hand he could be nullified by tougher opposition resulting in people thinking he is not s good as once thought.
One bad game doesn't make him a bad footballer though
Of course it doesn't and I didn't say that.
D4S said against top opposition he could prove how good he was and I said against top opposition he could be destroyed and maybe people would think he is worse than they thought.
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:05:15 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Quote from: D4S on July 15, 2009, 03:54:23 PM! If we can progress past Wicklow and he has another great game playing the same kind of role, it would be great to see him pitted against tougher opposition and get a bit more credit for how good he really is!
On the other hand he could be nullified by tougher opposition resulting in people thinking he is not s good as once thought.
One bad game doesn't make him a bad footballer though
Down have rarely played Coulter in this roving kind of role, always using him as a target man, perhaps this new role will help him to shine, not as easy to double mark a man who his running up and down the field like he did Saturday night and got a couple of cracking scores!!
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
I think he is a classy player but agree with Jinxy regarding his poor scoring return points wise. As mentioned, and by no fault of his, he has hardly been facing the top teams regularly in championship football to see how he would fare.
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
It wasnt the players that was the problem ONL
It was the system
Both teams totally negated the 2 man FF line
Down have played him in there & on many occasions he was standing with his hands on his hips surrounded by players or starved of the ball
Try again ;)
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 04:36:08 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
It wasnt the players that was the problem ONL
It was the system
Both teams totally negated the 2 man FF line
Down have played him in there & on many occasions he was standing with his hands on his hips surrounded by players or starved of the ball
Try again ;)
Which I maligned earlier in the thread
If you read my last post again, very carefully, you will see I said he was playing OFF a two man full forward line of Hughes and McComiskey when he was doing the damage on Sat night.
Have you your specs on FB?? Couple times today your eyesight has let you down, you know what thats a sign of too much??
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
Correct...I'm sure downgirl is orgasmic reading this thread...Ohhh Benny...you ginger haired, freckled faced hunk...lol :D :D
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:40:40 PM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 04:36:08 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
It wasnt the players that was the problem ONL
It was the system
Both teams totally negated the 2 man FF line
Down have played him in there & on many occasions he was standing with his hands on his hips surrounded by players or starved of the ball
Try again ;)
Which I maligned earlier in the thread
If you read my last post again, very carefully, you will see I said he was playing OFF a two man full forward line of Hughes and McComiskey when he was doing the damage on Sat night.
Have you your specs on FB?? Couple times today your eyesight has let you down, you know what thats a sign of too much??
You are right ONL, I mis-read your post again
Perhaps because I havent had a winning bet in months & I want to take it out on someone like you
Apologies again, for the second time today :-[
Ohh FB get off your knee's saan :D.
I think you'd have to put Eoin Bradley in the FF line of the Championship Team so far - even ahead of Paddy if I dare say so...
There could be room for the 2 of them if you're talking best team so far! But you couldn't pick Eoin ahead of Paddy after his 2-8 on Saturday! It's been pointed out before on this board but there is a serious resemblance between Coulter + Bradley! Wonder did Bradleys father ever do a bit of curtin down this part of the world :D ;D ;D
I would make a strong case for it ...
Paddy Scored 2-8 against a shocking Monaghan team when everyone was going well and all was rosey and was assisted for 2 of the goals and some points by Eoin ....
Eoin meanwhile has been far more consistent in the championship - even scoring 4 points out of 7 against a FAR better and tighter Tyrone defence.
That Monaghan team were like hens in a lightening storm.
If you were picking one spot on a FF line to play in an AI final against a tight defence in a close game (like Tyrone) - would you go for Paddy or Eoin based on this years games so far??
You would still have to pick Paddy as you know what he's capable of! Teams aren't always picked the way you suggest.....e.g Down playing Benny Coulter when not 100%, Tyrone playing Canavan in '05. If you asked the Derry team who would be a bigger loss to their team on AI final day I think it would be a unanimous Paddy. That's my opinion anyway but I can stand to be corrected if the situation arises in September!
Quote from: D4S on July 15, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
The point he scored in Enniskillen whilst clearly unfit was brilliant, as was the 1 he scored against Laois on Saturday night in diabolical conditions. His goal was also a cracker, the way he played Saturday night running up and down the field all night was brilliant to see. Much better than in the past when we have used him as a target man and he's wasted and out of games for long spells! He seems to be extrememly fit at the minute and hope we can get a massive performance from him again this saturday. He is a super talent and can have moments of brilliance in matches that are pure class! If we can progress past Wicklow and he has another great game playing the same kind of role, it would be great to see him pitted against tougher opposition and get a bit more credit for how good he really is!
agreed sublime score. down's reliance to put ball in on him when he is getting double marked could be got away from if played in half forward and allowed run at teams win his own ball etc imo
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
he would probably have been playing on his own 45 though ;)
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 15, 2009, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: D4S on July 15, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
The point he scored in Enniskillen whilst clearly unfit was brilliant, as was the 1 he scored against Laois on Saturday night in diabolical conditions. His goal was also a cracker, the way he played Saturday night running up and down the field all night was brilliant to see. Much better than in the past when we have used him as a target man and he's wasted and out of games for long spells! He seems to be extrememly fit at the minute and hope we can get a massive performance from him again this saturday. He is a super talent and can have moments of brilliance in matches that are pure class! If we can progress past Wicklow and he has another great game playing the same kind of role, it would be great to see him pitted against tougher opposition and get a bit more credit for how good he really is!
agreed sublime score. down's reliance to put ball in on him when he is getting double marked could be got away from if played in half forward and allowed run at teams win his own ball etc imo
This is where he was playing on sat night where he excelled, got on the ball a pile of times and caused trouble nearly every time he was in possession.
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 15, 2009, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: D4S on July 15, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
The point he scored in Enniskillen whilst clearly unfit was brilliant, as was the 1 he scored against Laois on Saturday night in diabolical conditions. His goal was also a cracker, the way he played Saturday night running up and down the field all night was brilliant to see. Much better than in the past when we have used him as a target man and he's wasted and out of games for long spells! He seems to be extrememly fit at the minute and hope we can get a massive performance from him again this saturday. He is a super talent and can have moments of brilliance in matches that are pure class! If we can progress past Wicklow and he has another great game playing the same kind of role, it would be great to see him pitted against tougher opposition and get a bit more credit for how good he really is!
agreed sublime score. down's reliance to put ball in on him when he is getting double marked could be got away from if played in half forward and allowed run at teams win his own ball etc imo
This is where he was playing on sat night where he excelled, got on the ball a pile of times and caused trouble nearly every time he was in possession.
dont understand why managers dont bring their main attackers further out the field more often whenever the ball isnt going in. especially with down as coulter plays in half forward most of the time i have saw the bridge playing over years, have even saw him at mf the odd time
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
Correct...I'm sure downgirl is orgasmic reading this thread...Ohhh Benny...you ginger haired, freckled faced hunk...lol :D :D
I'm surprised it took 3 pages for someone to say that :D He is lovely though. However I have my eye on a board member so Benny is on the backburner haha
But yes a super footballer look at some of the points he has scored from totally unscorable positions. Legend.
A good player, with potential to be a great one, not yet in the same league as Linden or wee James in there heydays. From the current crop of players i would select Stephen o Neill, Colm Cooper, Michael Meehan and Cousins ahead of him, Bradley when he is on song. But given a freer role as he was against Laois, i forsee him developing into the great player he can be.
Quote from: Pangurban on July 15, 2009, 07:22:47 PM
A good player, with potential to be a great one, not yet in the same league as Linden or wee James in there heydays. From the current crop of players i would select Stephen o Neill, Colm Cooper, Michael Meehan and Cousins ahead of him, Bradley when he is on song. But given a freer role as he was against Laois, i forsee him developing into the great player he can be.
???
Cousins??????
Quote from: downgirl on July 15, 2009, 06:48:39 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
Correct...I'm sure downgirl is orgasmic reading this thread...Ohhh Benny...you ginger haired, freckled faced hunk...lol :D :D
I'm surprised it took 3 pages for someone to say that :D He is lovely though. However I have my eye on a board member so Benny is on the backburner haha
But yes a super footballer look at some of the points he has scored from totally unscorable positions. Legend.
Tony Fearon?
Quote from: ziggysego on July 15, 2009, 07:57:06 PM
Quote from: downgirl on July 15, 2009, 06:48:39 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
Correct...I'm sure downgirl is orgasmic reading this thread...Ohhh Benny...you ginger haired, freckled faced hunk...lol :D :D
I'm surprised it took 3 pages for someone to say that :D He is lovely though. However I have my eye on a board member so Benny is on the backburner haha
But yes a super footballer look at some of the points he has scored from totally unscorable positions. Legend.
Tony Fearon?
What?? Explain...I don't know how you came up with that!!
Quote from: downgirl on July 15, 2009, 08:07:55 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on July 15, 2009, 07:57:06 PM
Quote from: downgirl on July 15, 2009, 06:48:39 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 15, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
ONL... get them Red & Black tinted glasses off saan...lol :D :D
What you wouldn't have done for someone like Benny to play off a two man full forward line this year.
Correct...I'm sure downgirl is orgasmic reading this thread...Ohhh Benny...you ginger haired, freckled faced hunk...lol :D :D
I'm surprised it took 3 pages for someone to say that :D He is lovely though. However I have my eye on a board member so Benny is on the backburner haha
But yes a super footballer look at some of the points he has scored from totally unscorable positions. Legend.
Tony Fearon?
What?? Explain...I don't know how you came up with that!!
Who then?
Guess again Ziggy! Seriously tho why did you say him??? Is he hairy?!
Quote from: hardstation on July 15, 2009, 08:33:57 PM
Ziggy has a boner for him.
Yeah, it's his stories of letter writing that gets me going.
Quote from: ziggysego on July 15, 2009, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 15, 2009, 08:33:57 PM
Ziggy has a boner for him.
Yeah, it's his stories of letter writing that gets me going.
Yeah, he once wrote a letter to the Irish Mail on Sunday regards having a United Ireland soccer team. Wonder where he thought that one up!!
Quote from: Pangurban on July 15, 2009, 07:22:47 PM
A good player, with potential to be a great one, not yet in the same league as Linden or wee James in there heydays. From the current crop of players i would select Stephen o Neill, Colm Cooper, Michael Meehan and Cousins ahead of him, Bradley when he is on song. But given a freer role as he was against Laois, i forsee him developing into the great player he can be.
Potential? Man is 28 or so right? He is what he is at this stage.
On his day, Benny is the best forward in Ulster, if not Ireland. He has been involved with Down while they are going through a barren spell. Had he been around in the early 90s he would have walked onto the double All Ireland team. Hopefully we will see a rejuvenated Benny this weekend playing somewhere out near the half forward line. If I was in Ross Carr's shoes I would be playing him at centre half forward on a regular basis.
It has to be noted that Benny shines brightest when playing for Ireland, if he had better players around him regularly Down would be challenging for honours on a regular basis. Hopefully he will be back in Croke Park later in the year.
on a different note - Benny must be the ugliest looking heur playing inter county football?
Quote from: Oakleafer1993 on July 15, 2009, 10:54:59 PM
on a different note - Benny must be the ugliest looking heur playing inter county football?
Have you seen the Bradleys? ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guAnTQ0ELS4&NR=1
Sums up his eye for a goal. One of very few players that would even think of working a goal from this opportunity.
Benny would make any team in Ireland.
Anybody from another county that says they have six forwards of an equal or better standard is full of shite.
It's a crying shame his playing career has coincided with truly awful Down teams. Hopefully the county get their act together before he finishes up.
The Bridge boys are privileged to see him play week in, week out.
Quote from: Cúig huaire on July 15, 2009, 10:32:20 PM
On his day, Benny is the best forward in Ulster, if not Ireland. He has been involved with Down while they are going through a barren spell. Had he been around in the early 90s he would have walked onto the double All Ireland team. Hopefully we will see a rejuvenated Benny this weekend playing somewhere out near the half forward line. If I was in Ross Carr's shoes I would be playing him at centre half forward on a regular basis.
It has to be noted that Benny shines brightest when playing for Ireland, if he had better players around him regularly Down would be challenging for honours on a regular basis. Hopefully he will be back in Croke Park later in the year.
Steady on. :o
only 2 posts by downgirl, i thought she be top poster on this tread
Downgirl has moved on she was very upset to find out a few weeks ago that Benny has a long term girlfriend! The lady that she is, she does not intend on breaking up a happy relationship ;) Well Done Downgirl for having some dignity!!!
Quote from: D4S on July 16, 2009, 11:01:02 AM
Downgirl has moved on she was very upset to find out a few weeks ago that Benny has a long term girlfriend! The lady that she is, she does not intend on breaking up a happy relationship ;) Well Done Downgirl for having some dignity!!!
aye after the restraining order Benny took out she kinda got the hint :D :D
Quote from: illdecide on July 16, 2009, 11:15:27 AM
Quote from: D4S on July 16, 2009, 11:01:02 AM
Downgirl has moved on she was very upset to find out a few weeks ago that Benny has a long term girlfriend! The lady that she is, she does not intend on breaking up a happy relationship ;) Well Done Downgirl for having some dignity!!!
aye after the restraining order Benny took out she kinda got the hint :D :D
:D :D :D
It was a bad move by a certain board member to burst Downgirls bubble, how many restraining orders has she now.
On a brighter note I hear Aidan Carr and Paul McComiskey are still single ;)
Quote from: Trevor Hill on July 16, 2009, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 16, 2009, 11:15:27 AM
Quote from: D4S on July 16, 2009, 11:01:02 AM
Downgirl has moved on she was very upset to find out a few weeks ago that Benny has a long term girlfriend! The lady that she is, she does not intend on breaking up a happy relationship ;) Well Done Downgirl for having some dignity!!!
aye after the restraining order Benny took out she kinda got the hint :D :D
:D :D :D
It was a bad move by a certain board member to burst Downgirls bubble, how many restraining orders has she now.
On a brighter note I hear Aidan Carr and Paul McComiskey are still single ;)
aye and when Benny gets talking to them thats the way they'll stay...lol
Something i've noticed over the last number of years following Down - there is little or no WAG brigade that was evident in the 90's - maybe something to do with the team not being that successful! I was beginning to think all the lads were single!
Quote from: Upperbann on July 16, 2009, 12:41:10 PM
Something i've noticed over the last number of years following Down - there is little or no WAG brigade that was evident in the 90's - maybe something to do with the team not being that successful! I was beginning to think all the lads were single!
Do you go to the games to watch players partners or the football?
You sound like a great addition to the gaaboard ::)
Most definitely the football Trevor Hill - but since the tread had turned into the relationship status of certain Down footballers it was sonething that came to mind; at least i don't have a personal vendetta against the Down management team or more specifically Ross Carr.
If you read through the thread you will find that some of the posters are having a light hearted go at Downgirl and her unrequited love for Benny Coulter, maybe you cant see that because of your "red mist".
I do not have a personal vendetta against Ross, I just dont think he is a good manager.
How does everyone know about the restraining orders!! :D :D
On a more serious note though I am still depressed, but Aidan Carr is single? He is quite good looking! :P
He doesn't look that hairy though downgirl! Maybe it's time to lower your standards and say any down man will do??? What u think?
Quote from: D4S on July 16, 2009, 07:18:24 PM
He doesn't look that hairy though downgirl! Maybe it's time to lower your standards and say any down man will do??? What u think?
Nah he is pretty hairy, not as much on the chest but legs an arms very hairy.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42477000/jpg/_42477636_gallery1.jpg)
She likes them like this though ONL!
Need a proper chest shot his arms get in the way there ONL haha!
But yea, it looks like I will have to forget about the hairy chest now, like D4S says, any Down fella will do haha
(http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12992.0;attach=668;image)
Did he win an All Ireland with Tyrone last year?
You have to give it to Downgirl she'll always make ye a smile!
Anyway I think the thread was about Benny Coulter's football ability...really hope we can get another great game out of him on Saturday, will take an extremely strong team performance to get a result, wicklow will be flying after taking out 2 ulster teams in as many weeks! Games only get tougher from here on in if we get by Wicklow!
We will know just how far this Down team have progressed on Saturday. Victory on Saturday would show there has been some progress made since the Fermanagh game and after that it is the luck of the draw. Another performance like last weeks from Coulter and we`ll be well on our way.
Beating a team which failed to get out of division 4 will indicate progress? Are you retarded?
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 16, 2009, 10:03:04 PM
Beating a team which failed to get out of division 4 will indicate progress? Are you retarded?
Invaluable, politically incorrect post.
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 16, 2009, 10:03:04 PM
Beating a team which failed to get out of division 4 will indicate progress? Are you retarded?
Brilliant ;D ;D ;D
Beating a team that have already beaten Cavan and Fermanagh, two teams who beat Down in 2009, would be seen as progress, yes. As we have seen already this year league form counts for nothing in the championship.
Is Benny back to full fitness or will he be carrying an injury against Wicklow?
lets be honest Down fans, you have been given a huge rub of the green witht the draw thus far. London walkover, the worst Laois team in living memory so dont get carried away with so called "brilliance".
Wicklow disposed of a Fermanagh side that beat Down well a few weeks ago, and Micko will have them well drilled. I would fancy Down if this was in Newry but Wicklow will be harder to crack at home. Either way I dont see either side going any further than the next round.
On the subject of Benny Coulter, also dont be getting carried away with the Laois performance. When he comes up against a Tyrone, Cork, Galway defence he can be judged better. I dont think he is in the top 6 forwards in Ulster or Ireland at the minute, but not far away ON HIS DAY.
Please, no rubbish posts about Armagh etc, I know we're shite this year. I am making objective commentary here.
PS for the poster who put the snide comment about Ciaran McKeever being called to retire despite out playing Coulter last year, you have shown yourself up by using a comment by Pat Spillane of all people to back up your argument.
Quote from: Trevor Hill on July 16, 2009, 08:01:18 PM
We will know just how far this Down team have progressed on Saturday. Victory on Saturday would show there has been some progress made since the Fermanagh game and after that it is the luck of the draw. Another performance like last weeks from Coulter and we`ll be well on our way.
If you win what way will that leave you with the Ross Carr situation?
doyle o sullivan b brogan
o neil donaghy gooch
a brogan
dooher
meehan
joyce
clarke
mcdonnell
bradleys
freeman
Coulter is up there but dunno would i put him in my all ireland 15
Clarke and McDonnell on this years performances??? Dooher has barely kicked a ball and Freeman has watched the last 2 games from the stand.
Quote from: Bomber2312 on July 17, 2009, 11:52:04 AM
doyle o sullivan b brogan
o neil donaghy gooch
a brogan
dooher
meehan
joyce
clarke
mcdonnell
bradleys
freeman
Coulter is up there but dunno would i put him in my all ireland 15
Joyce is well past his best. Dooher is the GAA's Darren Anderton. Clarke had one good half of football against Tyrone this year. The less said about McDonnell the better really.
Can't really say anything about the rest though to be fair.
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: Trevor Hill on July 16, 2009, 08:01:18 PM
We will know just how far this Down team have progressed on Saturday. Victory on Saturday would show there has been some progress made since the Fermanagh game and after that it is the luck of the draw. Another performance like last weeks from Coulter and we`ll be well on our way.
If you win what way will that leave you with the Ross Carr situation?
Unchanged.
The only thing that would have changed my mind was a win over Armagh, but if he does get another year he will get that in the 2010 league campaign.
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 17, 2009, 08:24:59 PM
Quote from: Bomber2312 on July 17, 2009, 11:52:04 AM
doyle o sullivan b brogan
o neil donaghy gooch
a brogan
dooher
meehan
joyce
clarke
mcdonnell
bradleys
freeman
Coulter is up there but dunno would i put him in my all ireland 15
Joyce is well past his best. Dooher is the GAA's Darren Anderton. Clarke had one good half of football against Tyrone this year. The less said about McDonnell the better really.
Can't really say anything about the rest though to be fair.
Cant agree with you there...while he has had a lot injuries he has delivered when it has mattered (apart from against Down last year :P)...oul sick note Anderton has never achieved anything of the equivalent magnitude of the horse doctor.
Quote from: Bomber2312 on July 17, 2009, 11:52:04 AM
doyle o sullivan b brogan
o neil donaghy gooch
a brogan
dooher
meehan
joyce
clarke
mcdonnell
bradleys
freeman
Coulter is up there but dunno would i put him in my all ireland 15
Also you would have to give the Bradleys their own ball, they wouldnt pass to anyone and who would they fight with?
i was only trying to point out that i've named 13 forwards there excluding coulter who would stake a claim for a place on an all ireland team. You could add in tommy walsh, conor mortimer and matty forde. Now i'm not saying that all of these are ahead of coulter but i reckon any of the players mentioned could be argued for their inclusion. I'm aware that they all have limitations and dooher and joyce are pushing on. Coulter might get into any team in the country but certainly not an all ireland xv
Quote from: Trevor Hill on July 17, 2009, 07:30:03 PM
Clarke and McDonnell on this years performances??? Dooher has barely kicked a ball and Freeman has watched the last 2 games from the stand.
posters have given coulter the benefit of the doubt because he was in a bad down team, think these players should also be afforded similar type of stance
Quote from: Bomber2312 on July 17, 2009, 09:29:31 PM
Coulter might get into any team in the country but certainly not an all ireland xv
??????????????
If he is good enough to walk onto any team in Ireland then surely he is good enough to walk onto an Ireland team. Actually he does walk onto the Ireland International Rules team so that nullifies that argument.
I see the point you are trying to make, but I don't see it as logical.
Gooch has been dire all year, Donaghy has been on the treatment bench more than he has been on the field, Dooher likewise. Cavanagh has been very off colour and moved to midfield (I think) and O`Neill could throw the dolly out of the pram at anytime and go off in another huff. In saying that he has been good all year, without ever reaching his best.
I cannot comment on Coulter this year as I haven't seen a championship game yet, tomorrow will be my first this year, but I heard he was back to his best last week and we will need him at that level tomorrow if we are to progress. I would have him in any "Ireland team", playing off Donaghy and alongside the Gooch, if they were all on form.
It is all hypothetical though.
Quote from: Bomber2312 on July 17, 2009, 09:29:31 PM
i was only trying to point out that i've named 13 forwards there excluding coulter who would stake a claim for a place on an all ireland team. You could add in tommy walsh, conor mortimer and matty forde. Now i'm not saying that all of these are ahead of coulter but i reckon any of the players mentioned could be argued for their inclusion. I'm aware that they all have limitations and dooher and joyce are pushing on. Coulter might get into any team in the country but certainly not an all ireland xv
Is that the Conor Mortimor who cant get a starting place with Mayo? And Matty Forde who has hardly featured this year? Catch a grip.
I had high hopes for Benny. Never really delivered on minor promise for me. Jinxys point that he doesnt score enough points is valid IMO.
Still he is a very good footballer...possibly 3rd best mayobridge ever produced :) . Excellent at compromise game and maybe if he had a Star Donaghy to play of might have delivered more.
Quote from: bcarrier on July 17, 2009, 10:41:43 PM
I had high hopes for Benny. Never really delivered on minor promise for me. Jinxys point that he doesnt score enough points is valid IMO.
Still he is a very good footballer...possibly 3rd best mayobridge ever produced :) . Excellent at compromise game and maybe if he had a Star Donaghy to play of might have delivered more.
Aren't you lucky it wasn't a major promise he made to you bcarrier :P
Quote from: Trevor Hill on July 17, 2009, 07:30:03 PM
Clarke and McDonnell on this years performances??? Dooher has barely kicked a ball and Freeman has watched the last 2 games from the stand.
Clarke definitely. McDonnell not so much.
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on July 17, 2009, 10:39:04 PM
Quote from: Bomber2312 on July 17, 2009, 09:29:31 PM
i was only trying to point out that i've named 13 forwards there excluding coulter who would stake a claim for a place on an all ireland team. You could add in tommy walsh, conor mortimer and matty forde. Now i'm not saying that all of these are ahead of coulter but i reckon any of the players mentioned could be argued for their inclusion. I'm aware that they all have limitations and dooher and joyce are pushing on. Coulter might get into any team in the country but certainly not an all ireland xv
Is that the Conor Mortimor who cant get a starting place with Mayo? And Matty Forde who has hardly featured this year? Catch a grip.
Matty Forde is injured and he's twice the player Coulter is.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 17, 2009, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hill on July 17, 2009, 07:30:03 PM
Clarke and McDonnell on this years performances??? Dooher has barely kicked a ball and Freeman has watched the last 2 games from the stand.
Clarke definitely. McDonnell not so much.
Only if Pat McEnaney is the referee ;)
There is no doubting that Benny is a class footballer.
He would play on any team in ireland and make them a better team and that says it all for me
His fantastic all action style is so good to watch, its just a shame he came along in an era where Down have been in the doldrums
One slight criticism is that he doesn't kick enough points
But a fair point has been made that he doesn't hit frees which would undoubtedly put him in a different light
all the down boys getting fierce defensive.
We're dealing with facts mortimer and forde were all stars so they deserve mention.
How much did benny score in division 3 this year?
I'm not having a pop at him or down, the players i mentioned above without checking the stats probably have scored more in their inter county careers than benny coulter.
He wasn't worth tuppence today.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2009, 06:03:43 PM
He wasn't worth tuppence today.
But he is still lovely!! :D :D
Quote from: downgirl on July 19, 2009, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2009, 06:03:43 PM
He wasn't worth tuppence today.
But he is still lovely!! :D :D
If you like ugly men, and in fairness Down is full of them ;D
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2009, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: downgirl on July 19, 2009, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2009, 06:03:43 PM
He wasn't worth tuppence today.
But he is still lovely!! :D :D
If you like ugly men, and in fairness Down is full of them ;D
She's his biggest fan, she'll follow him till he loves her, pa-parazzi...etc.....
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2009, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: downgirl on July 19, 2009, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2009, 06:03:43 PM
He wasn't worth tuppence today.
But he is still lovely!! :D :D
If you like ugly men, and in fairness Down is full of them ;D
She's his biggest fan, she'll follow him till he loves her, pa-parazzi...etc.....
Haha good one Farrandeelin!!! :D :D