Anybody on here got any thoughts on who will take the Ashes this year?
Will the Aussies prove too strong like '07 with another whitewash or will the English pull something special out of the bag like in '05??
It should be a good series if the weather stays any way decent.
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The 2005 series was exhilarating. Pure drama from start to finish. 2007 was a joke from the very first delivery, so with England at home again I'd be hoping for a more competitve series. I see that the Ashes is pay per view this summer. What a disgrace. Apparently only 10 high profile sporting events are sacrosanct and must be shown on terrestrial tv. ie world cup, european cup, grand national, wimbledon, fa cup etc. Would've thought the Ashes'd be safe as well.
Strauss and Cook out. 75 for 2.
QuoteApparently only 10 high profile sporting events are sacrosanct and must be shown on terrestrial tv. ie world cup, european cup, grand national, wimbledon, fa cup etc. Would've thought the Ashes'd be safe as well.
Where do you live Mr Nakata? I never heard of this law before.
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 08, 2009, 12:02:13 PM
The 2005 series was exhilarating. Pure drama from start to finish. 2007 was a joke from the very first delivery, so with England at home again I'd be hoping for a more competitve series. I see that the Ashes is pay per view this summer. What a disgrace. Apparently only 10 high profile sporting events are sacrosanct and must be shown on terrestrial tv. ie world cup, european cup, grand national, wimbledon, fa cup etc. Would've thought the Ashes'd be safe as well.
Is it not on Sky Sports 1? Its not pay per view although obviously you have to have a satellite. Didn't realise Britain had legislation regarding what had to be terrestrial tv.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 08, 2009, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 08, 2009, 12:02:13 PM
The 2005 series was exhilarating. Pure drama from start to finish. 2007 was a joke from the very first delivery, so with England at home again I'd be hoping for a more competitve series. I see that the Ashes is pay per view this summer. What a disgrace. Apparently only 10 high profile sporting events are sacrosanct and must be shown on terrestrial tv. ie world cup, european cup, grand national, wimbledon, fa cup etc. Would've thought the Ashes'd be safe as well.
Is it not on Sky Sports 1? Its not pay per view although obviously you have to have a satellite. Didn't realise Britain had legislation regarding what had to be terrestrial tv.
You have to pay for SS, so in essence it is a type of PPV
There is some law/legislation that requires certain events to be shown on terrestrial TV
The above events & I think the OPen is included in that as well
Ozzies turning the screw 90-3.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 08, 2009, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 08, 2009, 12:02:13 PM
The 2005 series was exhilarating. Pure drama from start to finish. 2007 was a joke from the very first delivery, so with England at home again I'd be hoping for a more competitve series. I see that the Ashes is pay per view this summer. What a disgrace. Apparently only 10 high profile sporting events are sacrosanct and must be shown on terrestrial tv. ie world cup, european cup, grand national, wimbledon, fa cup etc. Would've thought the Ashes'd be safe as well.
Is it not on Sky Sports 1? Its not pay per view although obviously you have to have a satellite. Didn't realise Britain had legislation regarding what had to be terrestrial tv.
The World Cup and European Championships on terrestrial TV isn't British legislation, its FIFA and UEFA rules as far as I know.
It was all over the news last night about how times have changed, Sky monopoly etc etc, however, these events are reviewed every so often and it was decided the Ashes could be removed from the list of 10 or so untouchables.
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on July 08, 2009, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 08, 2009, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 08, 2009, 12:02:13 PM
The 2005 series was exhilarating. Pure drama from start to finish. 2007 was a joke from the very first delivery, so with England at home again I'd be hoping for a more competitve series. I see that the Ashes is pay per view this summer. What a disgrace. Apparently only 10 high profile sporting events are sacrosanct and must be shown on terrestrial tv. ie world cup, european cup, grand national, wimbledon, fa cup etc. Would've thought the Ashes'd be safe as well.
Is it not on Sky Sports 1? Its not pay per view although obviously you have to have a satellite. Didn't realise Britain had legislation regarding what had to be terrestrial tv.
The World Cup and European Championships on terrestrial TV isn't British legislation, its FIFA and UEFA rules as far as I know.
It is the government who say the world and european championships have to be shown on terrestrial tv - not FIFA or anyone else. Sure Sepp Blatter said not so long ago for the government to make the world cup available on sky, and england would have a better chance of hosting the world cup - don't know how that works though.
Quote from: supersub on July 08, 2009, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on July 08, 2009, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 08, 2009, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 08, 2009, 12:02:13 PM
The 2005 series was exhilarating. Pure drama from start to finish. 2007 was a joke from the very first delivery, so with England at home again I'd be hoping for a more competitve series. I see that the Ashes is pay per view this summer. What a disgrace. Apparently only 10 high profile sporting events are sacrosanct and must be shown on terrestrial tv. ie world cup, european cup, grand national, wimbledon, fa cup etc. Would've thought the Ashes'd be safe as well.
Is it not on Sky Sports 1? Its not pay per view although obviously you have to have a satellite. Didn't realise Britain had legislation regarding what had to be terrestrial tv.
I have been learning a lot about this in uni this year, this will give you a clearer idea on what is and what isn't classes as a sporting event of national significance. I'm sure it would be along the same lines in Ireland where we follow most of the British precedents when it comes to the law, media etc.
http://www.culture.gov.uk/PDF/sport_on_television.pdf (http://www.culture.gov.uk/PDF/sport_on_television.pdf)
The World Cup and European Championships on terrestrial TV isn't British legislation, its FIFA and UEFA rules as far as I know.
It is the government who say the world and european championships have to be shown on terrestrial tv - not FIFA or anyone else. Sure Sepp Blatter said not so long ago for the government to make the world cup available on sky, and england would have a better chance of hosting the world cup - don't know how that works though.
Not sure what happened on that last post but I will start again,
I have been learning a lot about this in uni this year, this will give you a clearer idea on what is and what isn't classes as a sporting event of national significance. I'm sure it would be along the same lines in Ireland where we follow most of the British precedents when it comes to the law, media etc.
http://www.culture.gov.uk/PDF/sport_on_television.pdf (http://www.culture.gov.uk/PDF/sport_on_television.pdf)
Whats the score?
173-3 50 odd overs
KP & Collingwood have steadied the ship for England. Good news.....
score?
England: 194-3 (59.0 overs)
Australia: Yet to bat
Quote from: lob her in lad on July 08, 2009, 03:50:45 PM
England: 194-3 (59.0 overs)
Australia: Yet to bat
KP and Collingwood are the masters.
Quote from: lob her in lad on July 08, 2009, 03:50:45 PM
England: 194-3 (59.0 overs)
Australia: Yet to bat
good old bbc sport :D
Not many of us GAA head will admit to a love of cricket but I'm a big fan. Was lucky enough to get a ticket for the Saturday of the Lords test in 2005, an absolutely super day out.
C'mon Strayla!
Collingwood out for 64.
Its up to Kevin now.
Prior is pretty decent with the bat. Hopefully he can stay in and give the support to KP before Freddie comes in and starts swinging. Atherton was questioning his wicket keeping prowess a bit in last night's previews, but hopefully he'll do the business. Spin is really going to be a decisive factor around day 3 or 4 so he needs to be on the top of his game.
241 for 5. Bycott should be fun now
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 08, 2009, 04:55:56 PM
Prior is pretty decent with the bat. Hopefully he can stay in and give the support to KP before Freddie comes in and starts swinging. Atherton was questioning his wicket keeping prowess a bit in last night's previews, but hopefully he'll do the business. Spin is really going to be a decisive factor around day 3 or 4 so he needs to be on the top of his game.
They have just being giving out about his wicket keeping on the bbc commentary just now.
336/7 at the end of the days play.
Bad finish by England
Quote from: fer fox ache on July 08, 2009, 04:17:34 PM
Not many of us GAA head will admit to a love of cricket but I'm a big fan. Was lucky enough to get a ticket for the Saturday of the Lords test in 2005, an absolutely super day out.
C'mon Strayla!
You were going rightly to the last bit ;)
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on July 08, 2009, 03:55:41 PM
Do England just bat until they have 10 men out regardless of how many overs they play and then Austraila begin the batting? I forget what way this test stuff works, too much 20/20 or 1 day on nowadays ;D
The game lasts 5 days. Each day is a minimum of 90 overs.
Each team has 2 innings. Each innings can last as long as the batting team wishes (as long as they are not bowled out).
Hope that makes some sense.
Quote from: Chrisowc on July 08, 2009, 09:27:47 PM
Quote from: fer fox ache on July 08, 2009, 04:17:34 PM
Not many of us GAA head will admit to a love of cricket but I'm a big fan. Was lucky enough to get a ticket for the Saturday of the Lords test in 2005, an absolutely super day out.
C'mon Strayla!
You were going rightly to the last bit ;)
jasus I couldn't stomach seeing the English win at anything I'd nearly rather see Dublin win Sam.
As Tommy Tiernan said 'we love to see the English lose at sports and war and stuff'.
I'll be cheering on England and I'm sure I'll not be the only one. Cricket is the only sport I like to see England do well in. I hope they reclaim the Ashes. McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist, Ponting, Lee were all at the top of their game in 2005, so for England to win that series was truly momentous. In saying that McGrath trod on a cricket ball in the warm up for the second test that year and injured himself. That got the pommies right back in the series. This guy Mitchell Johnson looks a decent bowler, but not a patch on those guys in '05, who were legends. England to win it. Just.
I feel a bit dirty about it but I'm supporting England at the moment. I may switch sides depending on how its going. Think it could be a very good series. Neither side at 2005 level but probably very clos in terms of ability. Even today things swung a few times in terms of who were in the better position. Aussies just shade it now with the 7 wickets as England will want to get to 400. Probably won't now.
Bowlers struggling with England tail here.. 403-8.
Hope England win just cos the Aussies and their press are even worse if that's possible!!!
I cant agree with that. I hope England are stuffed, although feel England will take the series again 2-1.
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 08, 2009, 10:55:54 PM
I'll be cheering on England and I'm sure I'll not be the only one. Cricket is the only sport I like to see England do well in. I hope they reclaim the Ashes. McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist, Ponting, Lee were all at the top of their game in 2005, so for England to win that series was truly momentous. In saying that McGrath trod on a cricket ball in the warm up for the second test that year and injured himself. That got the pommies right back in the series. This guy Mitchell Johnson looks a decent bowler, but not a patch on those guys in '05, who were legends. England to win it. Just.
I have to agree with all of that except that I aint quite as confident of an England win unfortunately still hoping for a good series, I do enjoy a good test match more than the shorter stuff.
As far as sport on tv goes, I believe its the Listed Sports Broadcasting Act or something along those lines which gives the secretary of State for sport media and culture the right to list sports that have to be either broadcast live on terrestrial tv or must have delayed coverage and/or extensive highlights on terrestrial tv. I also think channel 5 doesnt count as terrestrial tv channel for purposes of the act.
England 435 all out which is much better than they could have hoped for before play started. Very good innings of 47 n.o. by Swann. The Aussies will not be amused.
Its a pity Swann didn't get his 50. Listening to it on the radio and Geoff Boycott was a joy to listen to.
Quote from: Declan on July 09, 2009, 11:52:41 AM
Hope England win just cos the Aussies and their press are even worse if that's possible!!!
Not sure the Aussie press is as bad as the British press to be honest,
Good to see how quick the runs come now that Hughes and Katich are in. Just listening the commentary on BBC. They should sell this stuff as a relaxant it is very calming listening to the two lads chatting. I like the way they have an English and Aussie commentary partnership it offers a nice variety.
Any thoughts on where the most exciting cricket will be played this series, The Brit Oval, Edgbaston, Headingley or Lord's. Bit upset there will be no Old Trafford test this time especially after the drawn third test in 05.
and thats lunch Aus 39/0
Quote from: lob her in lad on July 09, 2009, 01:00:59 PM
Any thoughts on where the most exciting cricket will be played this series, The Brit Oval, Edgbaston, Headingley or Lord's. Bit upset there will be no Old Trafford test this time especially after the drawn third test in 05.
The Old Trafford test in 2005 was fantastic despite being a draw. England needed 9 wickets on the final day and Australia 400 runs. Australia kept losing wickets all day except for Ponting who went on to make 140 odd before eventually getting out with 5 overs remaining. The last 2 Aussie batsmen just about hanging on until the end to secure a draw
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 08, 2009, 11:25:18 PM
I feel a bit dirty about it but I'm supporting England at the moment. I may switch sides depending on how its going. Think it could be a very good series. Neither side at 2005 level but probably very clos in terms of ability. Even today things swung a few times in terms of who were in the better position. Aussies just shade it now with the 7 wickets as England will want to get to 400. Probably won't now.
Spoken like a true United fan. ;)
Hughes gone off the inside edge and caught by pryor.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 09, 2009, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 08, 2009, 11:25:18 PM
I feel a bit dirty about it but I'm supporting England at the moment. I may switch sides depending on how its going. Think it could be a very good series. Neither side at 2005 level but probably very clos in terms of ability. Even today things swung a few times in terms of who were in the better position. Aussies just shade it now with the 7 wickets as England will want to get to 400. Probably won't now.
Spoken like a true United fan. ;)
WTF? From a Chelski fan?
1) Why is it always England and Australia in the final of the Ashes?
2) Who y'all cheering for?
3) Ignore question 1.
Cheering for the Aussies. Fair dinkum.
Quote from: Orior on July 09, 2009, 02:14:46 PM
1) Why is it always England and Australia in the final of the Ashes?
2) Who y'all cheering for?
3) Ignore question 1.
Because the rest of europe and the americans hog the ryder cup all the time!!
2) England
England need a wicket.
Well hey, at least they can say they were in the series for half a day before it bacame a lost cause.
Not only do they need a wicket but they need a few more Indians and Rodesians in their team. The english (like Rolo and Owc) have soft centres.
Aus 186 for 1. Katich 75no Punter 65no
Aus 222-1 Katich 88no Punter 88no
Katich (104) and Ponting (100) both get their centuries. Aus 249-1 at the close.
Aus still going well...290 - 1 Katich 118no Ponting 126no
Why are England called England, They take all the good Irish, Welsh and scotish players, plus a few south african, surely the british and irish lions part 2 would be a more apt naming.
Seriously though, Ireland shows a sign of becoming half decent and their two best players Ed Joyce and Eoin Morgan are just plucked from their grasps, given a few england games and then just left to play in the reserve team, its Linfield all over again.
Thats Ponting gone for 150
Quick wickets for England...Katich gone for 122, Ponting 150 and Hussey out for 3
331-4
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on July 10, 2009, 12:01:33 PM
Why are England called England, They take all the good Irish, Welsh and scotish players, plus a few south african, surely the british and irish lions part 2 would be a more apt naming.
Seriously though, Ireland shows a sign of becoming half decent and their two best players Ed Joyce and Eoin Morgan are just plucked from their grasps, given a few england games and then just left to play in the reserve team, its Linfield all over again.
Does seem a bit unfair alright. Surely after you play for one country at senior level, that should be that in terms of eligibility. One thing changing your mind at a young age or after playing underage but at senior level it seems a bit much.
I don't understand the eligibility rules for cricket, but considering England are the only team playing Test cricket in the northern hemisphere, a little flexibilty is essential
Quote from: deiseach on July 10, 2009, 01:22:46 PM
I don't understand the eligibility rules for cricket, but considering England are the only team playing Test cricket in the northern hemisphere, a little flexibilty is essential
It would be better called the "British Empire team minus Australia, India, Pakistan and West Indies"
Quote from: Orior on July 10, 2009, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 10, 2009, 01:22:46 PM
I don't understand the eligibility rules for cricket, but considering England are the only team playing Test cricket in the northern hemisphere, a little flexibilty is essential
It would be better called the "British Empire team minus Australia, India, Pakistan and West Indies"
Don't forget Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Or should that be Ceylon and East Pakistan?
It's actually England and Wales.
Ireland have full One day International status but are a long way from ever getting Test status.
Joyce and Morgan are not the first Irish men to play for England and hopefully won't be the last. The more players in contention will show Irish cricket is improving and will provide the Irish team with greater strength and depth.
It is not a case of England stealing Ireland's best players. Morgan and Joyce have declared their wish is to play for England as test cricket is the ultimate. They had to play County cricket for 4 years before they were eligible and can play for Ireland 4 years after their last game for England. In Joyce's case this is 2011 as far as I recall.
As for Welsh players, I have heard it said before that they see playing for Glamorgan in county cricket as representing Wales while playing for England is more like the Lions.
England need to keep up the momentum and not let clarke and Nroth hang around and get set. Crucial hour or two coming.
Was reading in the paper there that Ed Joyce was given out yesterday after hitting the ball into the trouser pocket of a Warwickshire fielder.
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 10, 2009, 01:52:58 PM
England need to keep up the momentum and not let clarke and Nroth hang around and get set. Crucial hour or two coming.
Not much happening. Aussies have weathered the storm. I can see them getting a lead of 100/150 and then England are in big diffs.
As Chris says Aus have settled
402-4 Clarke 47no North 25no
Tea - Aus 458 - 4
Clarke 70no North 50no
Aus lead by 24
Aus 463 - 4
Clarke 74no
North 51no
RAIN STOPPED PLAY
Australia posted their 4th best score against England yesterday.
England are 2 wickets down already and have a big task ahead to save the game.
I saw a funny headline in one of the papers - Only Welsh rain can save England shower.
Quote from: Chrisowc on July 12, 2009, 08:42:09 AM
Australia posted their 4th best score against England yesterday.
England are 2 wickets down already and have a big task ahead to save the game.
I saw a funny headline in one of the papers - Only Welsh rain can save England shower.
What's the forecast for today? England are in deep trouble so they'll need a few of their big hitters to dig their heels in and get runs up.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2009, 09:20:23 AM
Quote from: Chrisowc on July 12, 2009, 08:42:09 AM
Australia posted their 4th best score against England yesterday.
England are 2 wickets down already and have a big task ahead to save the game.
I saw a funny headline in one of the papers - Only Welsh rain can save England shower.
What's the forecast for today? England are in deep trouble so they'll need a few of their big hitters to dig their heels in and get runs up.
The forecast is good. Looking forward to seeing how many sweep shots KP plays today.
None
1117 - WICKET - Pietersen b Hilfenhaus 8, Eng 31-3
Pietersen plays a very streaky drive through the covers - uppish, but between the two fielders and away for a couple. But he's gone next ball, shouldering arms to a straight one getting his off-stump ripped out.
now 59-4, heart breaking stuff :P
125-5. Bit of a recovery by England with Freddie and Collingwood getting into double figures!
Crucial wicket for the Aussies. 221-8. 2 more wickets needed!!
Is it 7pm they keep going to?
Monty and Anderson shore it up.
Draw.
That will feel like a victory for England. Big improvement needed though or it won't matter.
I'd say Harmison will be in for one of the spinners.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 12, 2009, 10:24:12 PM
I'd say Harmison will be in for one of the spinners.
My guess would be Monty as Swann is a decent bat and can score useful runs.
If Harmison can bowl anything like his best it will give England's attack a new dimension.
Interesting finish - always nice to see the scratchers frustrate the bowlers.
Good finish alright. Though I was hoping the Aussies would have one over to get 12 or 14 runs - that would have been fair exciting.
I thought the English wicket keeper was very poor in the field. I know he can bat, but I dont think I'd have him in a test team.
So senor flintoff has announced his retirement after the ashes. Strange timing. Will this inspire his team to a victory over the Aussies at Lords. I doubt it. Don't think they've beaten the aussies there in 70 years or something in an ashes test. At least he's been passed fit though. Big Freddie is a piss head of serious pedigree. Apart from the Downing Street piss up, the open top bus piss up, the pedalo incident and even last weeks trenches debacle, my favourite footage of an intoxicated Flintoff was during an interview before an England soccer World Cup game in 2006. He was hammered, it was about 2pm in the afternoon and he could barely speak. Lineker quips that he'd love a drink of what Freddie's been on. Aussies to win this one at a canter.
Nailled on draw by the looks of it.
Eng 125-0
Aussies in disaray this morning. Ball going all over the place and that's before the batsman even hits it ;D
Aussies finally take a wicket
Eng 196-1
Cook lbw b Johnson 95
Strauss 82no
252-2 at the minute. Bopara out to a good ball.
Strauss on 97 at the minute, and KP on a fairly steaky 22.
Pietersen out for 32...267-3
Strauss 102 no
Couple of quick wickets for Aussies...Eng 317-5 Strauss 126 no
Freddie needs to keep his head here. New ball soon, England could be in trouble after looking dominant. Collingwood gave away his wicket, the tit.
Mini collapse from England. Flintoff out for 4, 333-6
If Strauss can go on to make 200 hundred tomorrow it would set England up for a good total. Good comeback from Australia today. They never lie down easily.
Brilliant start from the Aussies this morning Strauss out straight away now Clarke out for 4!
370-8
Great stuff from the England tail, Strauss will be wondering what if...
What's the latest?
Aussies
4-1 :-\
chasing 425
ponting out!
10-2
England flying.
Looks like it could be a good test match this one.
Aus 22-2 - Lunch
Going to be a long day for the Aussies I think.
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/7/17/1247833556004/Ricky-Ponting-001.jpg)
"Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio!"
Aussies fucked
That's a great photo of Ponting as he got the word of his dismissal.
Eng don't force the follow on. Could come back to haunt them
Does that mean England have to bat next..Then if Australia can hold on until the 5 days are up its a draw?
Is that right? That seems to be the way i'm picking it up with my limited knowledge...
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 18, 2009, 12:22:38 PM
Does that mean England have to bat next..Then if Australia can hold on until the 5 days are up its a draw?
Is that right? That seems to be the way i'm picking it up with my limited knowledge...
Eng could have forced Aus back into bat (which is the usually the norm) because they didn't get enough runs.
Instead Eng have decided to bat again trying to get a good, quick total leaving them as much time as they can to bowl out the aussies. As you say if the aussies can hold out it will be a draw, a la eng in the 1st test
Quote from: gawa316 on July 18, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 18, 2009, 12:22:38 PM
Does that mean England have to bat next..Then if Australia can hold on until the 5 days are up its a draw?
Is that right? That seems to be the way i'm picking it up with my limited knowledge...
Eng could have forced Aus back into bat (which is the usually the norm) because they didn't get enough runs.
Instead Eng have decided to bat again trying to get a good, quick total leaving them as much time as they can to bowl out the aussies. As you say if the aussies can hold out it will be a draw, a la eng in the 1st test
Right i have got it now...Everyone in Aus doing a rain dance at the min then..lol
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 18, 2009, 12:58:07 PM
Right i have got it now...Everyone in Aus doing a rain dance at the min then..lol
Yeah you're probably right. Eng going along nicely at the min but they are always liable to a collapse of there own
Quote from: gawa316 on July 18, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
Instead Eng have decided to bat again trying to get a good, quick total leaving them as much time as they can to bowl out the aussies. As you say if the aussies can hold out it will be a draw, a la eng in the 1st test
Not following on means England's bowlers will be fresh when they face Australia again. There's logic to it but a few showers could ruin everything
England closing in on the win. Aussies need 127, England only need 1 wicket.
Bowled him.
Eng 1 up with 3 to play
And that's that. Great win for England. Series bubbling up nicely now.
Yes, happy days, comfortable in the end. 1-0 to England. The Aussies really need Brett Lee fit for the 3rd test.
After watching the highlights of the cricket tonight, I have to say that was reminicent of summer '05. What an aggressive spell of fast bowling from Flintoff. Superb. 1st victory over the Aussies at Lords in 78 years, a real party atmosphere. If this summer's cricket is anything like '05 we're in for a treat. Edgbaston and Headingly up next, both intimidating test venues, great atmosphere generated.
Pietersen out of rest of series after achilles operation.
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 20, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
After watching the highlights of the cricket tonight, I have to say that was reminicent of summer '05. What an aggressive spell of fast bowling from Flintoff. Superb. 1st victory over the Aussies at Lords in 78 years, a real party atmosphere. If this summer's cricket is anything like '05 we're in for a treat. Edgbaston and Headingly up next, both intimidating test venues, great atmosphere generated.
I really saw what people see in cricket during the 2005 Ashes series. The run chases from Australia and England in the 2nd and 4th Tests respectively were sport at their most compelling. Every ball was a funeral. It's a pity C4 lost the coverage.
Quote from: deiseach on July 22, 2009, 04:54:02 PM
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 20, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
After watching the highlights of the cricket tonight, I have to say that was reminicent of summer '05. What an aggressive spell of fast bowling from Flintoff. Superb. 1st victory over the Aussies at Lords in 78 years, a real party atmosphere. If this summer's cricket is anything like '05 we're in for a treat. Edgbaston and Headingly up next, both intimidating test venues, great atmosphere generated.
I really saw what people see in cricket during the 2005 Ashes series. The run chases from Australia and England in the 2nd and 4th Tests respectively were sport at their most compelling. Every ball was a funeral. It's a pity C4 lost the coverage.
Agree with that. Loved their coverage although the odd 4.05 from Ascot during play got on my tits. I think it is the same people who produced C4's coverage do the highlights on C5 now.
Shane Warne seems good value on Sky although it is still hard to beat radio commentary.
Quote from: Chrisowc on July 22, 2009, 05:54:57 PM
Shane Warne seems good value on Sky although it is still hard to beat radio commentary.
Hmm. The chuminess of it all gets a bit annoying. 'Blowers' and 'Aggers' . . . merciful hour
Quote from: deiseach on July 22, 2009, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: Chrisowc on July 22, 2009, 05:54:57 PM
Shane Warne seems good value on Sky although it is still hard to beat radio commentary.
Hmm. The chuminess of it all gets a bit annoying. 'Blowers' and 'Aggers' . . . merciful hour
Like this you mean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k0qZDdfvZk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k0qZDdfvZk)
Staying in Birmingham this wk and the Australian cricket team is staying in my hotel. Had to squeeze past a few of them at breakfast today - not entirely unenjoyable...
Quote from: Rois on July 28, 2009, 08:57:11 AM
Staying in Birmingham this wk and the Australian cricket team is staying in my hotel. Had to squeeze past a few of them at breakfast today - not entirely unenjoyable...
You lucky b***h.
Third test finally gets under way...Aus 13-0
Hope we get a full day's cricket today. Punter won his first toss of the series yesterday and opting to bat looks like a good decision. Early wickets needed for England or this could be a long old day.
What they on now? last i heard was ponting had 8 runs to make to be leading scorer of all time in oz
Bit of an Aussie collapse...Eng two wickets in first over...Ponting just gone for 38...168-4
From 193-4 to 203-8 at lunch, Anderson ripping through them. If this were England it would be called a collapse but tthe larrikins don't do collapses so it must be the pitch or the umpire or the magnetic pull of the Moon.
Aussies 77-7 in the morning session :o
Quote from: deiseach on July 31, 2009, 01:08:37 PM
From 193-4 to 203-8 at lunch, Anderson ripping through them. If this were England it would be called a collapse but tthe larrikins don't do collapses so it must be the pitch or the umpire or the magnetic pull of the Moon.
They're ripping them onto SBS over here
Very good day for England. Onions and Anderson bowled superbly. Got a bit of a hand from the umpire too. Two of Andersons wickets were LBW, and Hawkeye indicated they both would have missed the stumps. Then in England's innings Bell was absolutely plum LBW off the bowling of Mitchell Johnston, but inexplicably the umpire wasnt interested.
The Bell decision was awful.
However Anderson, and Onions' bowling was superb!
Day 3 abandoned... looks like a draw and Engerland 1-0 up with two to go.
One for the real experts here. Australia are currently 161-4, which is effectively 48-4 given the first innings scores. But with the number of overs remaining, the probablilty of bad light and the state of the pitch, what is the most likely outcome? I get the feeling England will struggle to take six wickets and the hundred-and-something odd they will need
Aus 172-4 at lunch...59 ahead...69 over remaining. To have a chance England really need to bowl Aus out before tea. Anyone get the impression these are two mediocre teams??
Quote from: deiseach on August 03, 2009, 12:55:45 PM
One for the real experts here. Australia are currently 161-4, which is effectively 48-4 given the first innings scores. But with the number of overs remaining, the probablilty of bad light and the state of the pitch, what is the most likely outcome? I get the feeling England will struggle to take six wickets and the hundred-and-something odd they will need
The deciding factor could still be the Australia collapse on Friday. With 60 odd overs left there is still loads of time left to bowl Australia out and get the required runs. A lot rests on Michael Clarke if Australia are to hang on for a draw.
Clarke & North steady the Aussie ship...291-4
Will Australia be pondering a declaration? 200 run lead, give the bowlers 20 overs to get 10 wickets?
Aus 375-5 dec....Clarke 103 no
Draw
Bit of a damp squib after lunch. England going into today were the only team that could have forced a win, but were quite toothless once the weather conditions removed the degree of swing seen in first innings. Hope Lee is back for next test, an Auzzie win, setting it up lovely for the final test.
Flintoff out of Eng side for 4th test
You have to fancy the Aussies this weekend, if the weather stays good I think they will win this test and level the series.
Apparently Matt Prior injured himself playing football in the warm up. England frantically searching for another keeper but if Aus choose to bat Collingwood will be behind the stumps!
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 07, 2009, 10:17:14 AM
Apparently Matt Prior injured himself playing football in the warm up. England frantically searching for another keeper but if Aus choose to bat Collingwood will be behind the stumps!
That is crazy ;D, will they never learn??
England's day began badly when they were evacuated from their Leeds hotel at 0450 BST because of a fire alarm.
The players and staff were forced to wait outside for 20 minutes as heavy early morning rain lashed down in Yorkshire.
Not the best start for them
England start Strauss gone already
Bopara a goner too...22-2
Bit of a collapse by Eng 43-4. England picked Prior and presumably thought he'd be recovered by the time he had to bat. He's in already.
England 73-6 SHAMBLES
Some session for Australia. They've made sh1te of the English batting order.
Bopara isn't the second cousin of an international batsman. His defense is absolutely shocking.
Why didn't the Aussies pick Stuart Clark before?? 7 overs, 3 wickets for 7 runs
Aussies could have this one sewn up in 3 days.
What a disaster. If I learned one thing from the first three tests, it's that if the pitch suits Australia it won't suit England and vice versa, so England are surely toast. Sets it up nicely for the final test I suppose :-\
Was warned by a mate to lump on the Aussies to win 2-1 last week but doubted they would do it with the weather etc. Early on the 1st day I know but think this test is over.
102 all out. Now thats a collapse :D
Katich gone for a duck. Couple of decent partnerships required now for the aussies!!
England need to get Ponting out and soon, 5 fours already. He's on fire. This one looks gone already. I suppose getting them out for 250 is the best England can hope for.
57 off 38 balls! Someone tell them this isn't Twenty20
Aus 61-1. Punter 32 off 26 deliveries.
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 07, 2009, 03:17:55 PM
Aus 61-1. Punter 32 off 26 deliveries.
Aus ahead...103-1...Watson 32 no, Ponting 63 no.
Wicket...Watson out for 51...133-2
Followed quickly by Ponting for 78 to the worst bowler in Test cricket Stuart Broad. 140-3. Mini comeback by England
This match could be over tomorrow! 151-4...Hussey out for 10...lbw to Broad ::)
Australia over 300 now. Talk about death by a thousand cuts
Was reading over the weekend that Ramprakash is being considered for the final test next week. He's 39 and hasn't played test match cricket for 7 years. Added to that, the Aussies had the hoodoo over him as well. Sounds like utter panic to me. In saying that Bhopara and Bell aren't up to it and both need to be dropped. If Freddie isn't fit, I think the Ashes will be retained by the Aussies. Big Mitchell Johnson at last showing the form that everyone was raving about before the series. Should be a fascinating and tense 5 days.
England win toss and decide to bat first. 108-1 at lunch. Lovely. Middle order of Bell, Collingwood and Trott were expecting to be targetted by the Aussies but so far Bell is standing firm on 41, helping out Strauss who's on 50. Cook gone for 10. They need a big first innings score and it's looking good thus far.
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on August 20, 2009, 01:22:12 PM
England win toss and decide to bat first. 108-1 at lunch. Lovely. Middle order of Bell, Collingwood and Trott were expecting to be targetted by the Aussies but so far Bell is standing firm on 41, helping out Strauss who's on 50. Cook gone for 10. They need a big first innings score and it's looking good thus far.
If Bell can get a century Australia might as well wave the white flag. No pressure or anything, Ian
Usual middle order collapse by England now ;D, Flintoff out for 7 in his penultimate test innings.
Trott offering some resistance with a tidy 33no.
Aussies 61-0. Rain leads to a slightly earlier lunch. Unless the wickets start coming, the Ashes look to be retained. Very dodgy wicket at the Oval.
Are England losing? It not's worth watching unless we can laugh at them.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 21, 2009, 01:46:19 PM
Are England losing? It not's worth watching unless we can laugh at them.
England are behind. Anything can change in a few overs - in theory, a five day match could last forty balls - but the Australians will feel happier at this moment. Even before I met Mrs d I would have hoped England beat Australia. Seeing the convicts lose is a marvellous thing. With Mrs d in the equation, I
need England to win :-\
85-2, Watson and Ponting gone. Come on England, get into them.....
Quote from: deiseach on August 21, 2009, 02:05:20 PM
England are behind. Anything can change in a few overs - in theory, a five day match could last forty balls - but the Australians will feel happier at this moment.
Is it crass to quote myself? 89-3, come on England!
That wicket must be dodgy as hell, Englands score might not seem so bad now.
104-4. Stuart Broad, 4 for 8 in 21 balls. Shome mishtake shurely
5th wicket gone. Terrible lbw decision on first viewing.
Starting to look very good for Ingerland.
Merciful hour, 108-5! Katich is ploughing a lonely furrow here
Holy feck, another one down
Are we going to see canonisation of this squad also, MBE's galore and sports personalities of the year etc?
England may win the Ashes having only scored one century in the entire series!
Hope I am not counting my chickens :P
the weather saved england in the 2 drawn test matches
why not just change the rules of cricket so that they play on the following day until there is a result, like in tennis or other sports that require dry conditions?
133-8 at tea, majestic stuff, can't wait to see the C5 highlights tonight. Aussies have avoided the follow on, which is a pity. I'd liked to have seen England get another pop at them. Surely the tail will be cleaned up shortly after tea and then there's huge responsibility on the England openers.
Lets say Aussies are all out for 150-170, England have a lead of 160-180 so a knock of 250+ puts them in pole position for the series, some turnaround.
England 3/10, Aussies 7/2, draw 14/1 currently. As long as England don't collapse, they have it in the bag.
What an English like collapse. On that wicket surely a lead of round 300 for England would be enough? If they bat for 200-250 and get the Aussies out shortly they'll be home? Must remember its England though.
Looking forward to it tomorrow. Pity no Irishmen palying for them ;)
Anyone see the documentary on ESPN called an Aussie goes Barmy. Its basically an Aussie bloke who followed the last Ashes tour down under with the Barmy Army. Good show, and them blokes drink some stuff!! All day in the sun drinking beer and out at night on town. Some punishment!
This is going to be a clinker of a finish. I'll be honest and thought that England's 330 odd was respectable enough of a score, and thought they were still in the game. However all the pundits on SKY and in the papers wrote them off, and made me doubt myself. I wonder what odds Eng were for the ashes this morning.
It's a game now where every single run matters, as it's going to be close. I think England will get 170, 180, which gives them a healthy lead.
The Aussies will have two days to hunt it down, but that softly, softly is not really their style. I reckon England will skittle them for 200 ish around throw in time on Sunday.
IR Bell is one of the most frustrating cricketers out there. Undoubted talent, but when needed most he throws his wicket away. Cook and Collingwood as well, when composure was needed they bottle it. I don't think this is over by a long stretch. Strauss and Trott looked composed at the end of play, but the Aussies will throw everything in the tank at them tomorrow morning. That wicket is a shocker. England could be knocked over by lunchtime tomorrow. Hopefully not. What a spell of bowling today from Broad. Great atmosphere at the oval. Should be sensational viewing. Can't wait.
Is there any chance that England can feck it up now?
England were bowled out for 102 at Headingley in the last test match. If any team can fcuk this up, it's them. However, they have a decent lead and the wicket is deteriorating badly which is to their advantage. I'll be stunned and gutted if they do not win the Ashes back off the Aussies from this position.
English mentality innit.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 21, 2009, 10:58:08 PM
Is there any chance that England can feck it up now?
England crickers do that? I reckon they will get 210, should be enough. :)
England are effectivelly 230-3 on a deterioring wicket. I can't see any result bar an England win.
I don't think even England will fcuk this up now, can they? They should add at least 100 more and its near impossible to see the Aussies getting over 300 to win on a dog of a pitch.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 22, 2009, 01:16:47 AM
England are effectivelly 230-3 on a deterioring wicket. I can't see any result bar an England win.
The wicket is turning square!. There was some uneven bounce late yesterday as well which isn't much fun for the batsmen.
This Australia team are fairly inexperienced and don't seem to be able to handle pressure. Playing at Lords got to them and when the pressure was building yesterday, again they failed.
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 07, 2009, 05:08:18 PM
Followed quickly by Ponting for 78 to the worst bowler in Test cricket Stuart Broad. 140-3. Mini comeback by England
Just noticed this ;D
He got him again yesterday.
Quote from: bingobus on August 21, 2009, 05:03:19 PM
What an English like collapse. On that wicket surely a lead of round 300 for England would be enough? If they bat for 200-250 and get the Aussies out shortly they'll be home? Must remember its England though.
Looking forward to it tomorrow. Pity no Irishmen palying for them ;)
Anyone see the documentary on ESPN called an Aussie goes Barmy. Its basically an Aussie bloke who followed the last Ashes tour down under with the Barmy Army. Good show, and them blokes drink some stuff!! All day in the sun drinking beer and out at night on town. Some punishment!
I've seen that and it's helped me talk the Mrs into going to the Ashes 2010/11, work permitting. I met a few of those boys when England played Ireland in 2006 and they were a good laugh.
There isn't any room for Irishmen in the team because it's full of South Africans.
Heard England were in Control but had a mini collapse...True? Dont really watch cricket...Would watch if i knew there was going to be a winner in the next 3-4 hrs or so...I actually have a right grasp of the rules now too.. A fellow started work from Armagh CC and he explained all the rules(every day for the last 3) but they have sunk in now!!! Apparently it would have been better for the ozzies to follow on!
England are 59-3 in the 2nd innings. Batsmen are alway vulnerable early in their innings and having to bat for an hour before close lastnight was always going to be tricky with the batsmen in a no win situation. Best case scenario for each batter was to be not out for not many runs.
There won't be a winner in the next 3-4 hours. England will hope to bat for as long as possible today to get a lead of 350/400. There is a good chance of a result tomorrow.
Not sure if Australia had to follow on (more than 200 behind after 1st innings) whether England would have enforced it. The pitch is only getting harder to bat on so having to bat 4th is a big disadvantage here. If Australia had followed, and with the pitch deteriorating, along with the huge pressure of the situation, even a target of 120 could have been imposing for England.
Quote from: Chrisowc on August 22, 2009, 09:32:32 AM
England are 59-3 in the 2nd innings. Batsmen are alway vulnerable early in their innings and having to bat for an hour before close lastnight was always going to be tricky with the batsmen in a no win situation. Best case scenario for each batter was to be not out for not many runs.
There won't be a winner in the next 3-4 hours. England will hope to bat for as long as possible today to get a lead of 350/400. There is a good chance of a result tomorrow.
Not sure if Australia had to follow on (more than 200 behind after 1st innings) whether England would have enforced it. The pitch is only getting harder to bat on so having to bat 4th is a big disadvantage here. If Australia had followed, and with the pitch deteriorating, along with the huge pressure of the situation, even a target of 120 could have been imposing for England.
Sori but Tyrone play Cork tomorrow...So i won't see the result!
Looking good for England at 157-4. Victory assured unless something mental happens.
Quote from: Mr. Nakata on August 22, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
Looking good for England at 157-4. Victory assured unless something mental happens.
Ye never know....
Engerland 462 ahead at tea with Trott on his way to a ton. I reckon they will let him get that and/or reach a 500 lead before the day is out and declare. 2 day blitz of the Aussie batsmen to secure the Ashes.
Good days cricket. Strauss was excellent and what a debut for Trott, maiden test century in front of a euphoric Oval crowd. Great atmosphere! Punter needs a miracle.
I don't mean to be funny but I am 33 years old, spent 4 years in Trinity college dublin and I have lived in Ireland all my life and I never met one person with an interest in Cricket, never mind someone the played it. Imagine my surprise when I see a 14 page thread on a GAA website on the same sport! As a matter of interest how did ye all get to like cricket?
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 22, 2009, 09:06:46 PM
I don't mean to be funny but I am 33 years old, spent 4 years in Trinity college dublin and I have lived in Ireland all my life and I never met one person with an interest in Cricket, never mind someone the played it. Imagine my surprise when I see a 14 page thread on a GAA website on the same sport! As a matter of interest how did ye all get to like cricket?
I grew up on a Protestant housing estate, and Strabane has a fairly decent cricket side.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 22, 2009, 09:06:46 PM
I don't mean to be funny but I am 33 years old, spent 4 years in Trinity college dublin and I have lived in Ireland all my life and I never met one person with an interest in Cricket, never mind someone the played it. Imagine my surprise when I see a 14 page thread on a GAA website on the same sport! As a matter of interest how did ye all get to like cricket?
I got into it a few years ago. Previous to that, I thought it was pretty boring with a lot of men standing about doing very little. Since I got to know the rules, its not a bad sport. Granted the 3 dayers can be a bit monotonous, but the 20/20 is good stuff. I really enjoyed the ashes in australia the last time. Along with rugby, its a game that I wished I had the chance to play. Still reckon I'd be a mean batsman!
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 22, 2009, 09:06:46 PM
I don't mean to be funny but I am 33 years old, spent 4 years in Trinity college dublin and I have lived in Ireland all my life and I never met one person with an interest in Cricket, never mind someone the played it. Imagine my surprise when I see a 14 page thread on a GAA website on the same sport! As a matter of interest how did ye all get to like cricket?
My uncles were all into it so I picked it up from there. Played a bit with mates but didn't go to a grammer school so didn't take it up seriously. Really wished I had.
Love the atmosphere around a cricket match and would much rather watch a closely fought Test Match than any other sport.
We used to play it in the garden every summer. I used to love watching Gooch, Botham et al against the Windies when Ambrose, Viv richards etc were playing in the early 80's.
England win the ashes with a day to spare.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 23, 2009, 08:36:11 AM
We used to play it in the garden every summer. I used to love watching Gooch, Botham et al against the Windies when Ambrose, Viv richards etc were playing in the early 80's.
I would have loved to see the Gooch playing against Ambrose ;) ;)
Great stuff. Flintoff ends on a high (his missus is serious too, good luck to him).
Quote from: stiffler on August 23, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
England win the ashes with a day to spare.
And guess who will win all the prizes at this years BBC Sports Personlity awards?
They`ll be hard to listen to now.
Just curious as to why so many posters in this thread actually support England?
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 23, 2009, 06:41:25 PM
Just curious as to why so many posters in this thread actually support England?
Why so curious? Have you something against our near neighbours?
Ireland don't play test cricket, so may as well support England as anyone else. Plus if an Irishman was good enough to play regular test cricket, they'd play it with England (and a couple aren't too far away from the team).
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 23, 2009, 06:41:25 PM
Just curious as to why so many posters in this thread actually support England?
I don't. You couldn't beat them by enough runs to please me.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 23, 2009, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 23, 2009, 06:41:25 PM
Just curious as to why so many posters in this thread actually support England?
I don't. You couldn't beat them by enough runs to please me.
Me too!
I heard that boyo Trott interviewed yesterday after his century and he sounded as English as Kevin Pietersen..........
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2009, 08:14:45 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 23, 2009, 06:41:25 PM
Just curious as to why so many posters in this thread actually support England?
Why so curious? Have you something against our near neighbours?
Ireland don't play test cricket, so may as well support England as anyone else. Plus if an Irishman was good enough to play regular test cricket, they'd play it with England (and a couple aren't too far away from the team).
The Headline on Sky Sports
Andrew Flintoff says winning the Ashes is "like a dream" after the Aussies were sent
packing in dramatic fashion.
I lived in London for 6 years i hated the days England won in Cricket, thankfully it wasnt that often. The cricket fraternity went on and on about their victories. It was hard to stomach. Freddie will be missed.
I'd say Freddie will also be pissed right about now based on past history.
Still as long as there are no lilos involved...
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 23, 2009, 06:41:25 PM
Just curious as to why so many posters in this thread actually support England?
Live in australia for a while and you will see how arrogant them aussies are about cricket!!
I would love to see both teams beat to be honest!!!!
I usually don't like England but fair play to them on this test they were exceptional. Didn't see this coming four days ago but hey, a good game all around.
Next time the Australians will need to put them in their place....4-0 at least ;D
Quote from: stiffler on August 23, 2009, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 23, 2009, 06:41:25 PM
Just curious as to why so many posters in this thread actually support England?
Live in australia for a while and you will see how arrogant them aussies are about cricket!!
I would love to see both teams beat to be honest!!!!
Ya if you ever lived in Australia then you would understand. The Aussie are sickening when it comes to sport. They make the English/Brits almost supportable, but no I wish they both could lose, but Australia even more so.
You see Irishmen supporting English cricket team, English supporting German soccer team & French Rugby team, Scots supporting England, its purely down to how sickening the Aussies are, they have the worst sportsmanship in the entire world. I thought the last Olympics only featured Australia watching it here in Australia.
Echo those sentiments about Australian sportsmanship..... or lack of to be more accurate. Honorable exception are the soccer fraternity who were sneeringly referred to as "wogball" for decades.
Had the misfortune to be there for the Commonwealth Games in Kuala Lumpur (I think) where the tv station insisted on showing the national anthem being played for every one of their hundreds of gold medals. I think they won every gold medal in the swimming and boy did they croe about it.
Very unusual national quirk as imo the Aussies are by and large the soundest of people.
They're arrogant enough when winning, but they're pretty gracious when losing I find. Don't confuse their media with a national trait
Quote from: Cúig huaire on August 23, 2009, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 23, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
England win the ashes with a day to spare.
And guess who will win all the prizes at this years BBC Sports Personlity awards?
They`ll be hard to listen to now.
Lemme guess, lemme guess!
Is it the Scottish Curling team?
The Aussies have some sporting tradition for such a small country population wise (18m?).
Gutted they lost the Ashes as we will have to listen to some shite for a few months such as the Queen congratulating the English!
Anyway hopefully Ireland can skittle the brits out at Stormont this week.
We won't get the same media hype this time. First of all, because it was done quite recently, and more importantly because both sides are substantially poorer this time than in 2005. It took a huge amount of individual brilliance in 2005 to beat a great Australian team, and that's where all the plaudits came from. This time around it was more about endeavour and patience, and even the most barmy cricket loving editor will appreciate that.
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 23, 2009, 06:41:25 PM
Just curious as to why so many posters in this thread actually support England?
1) Mrs d. Her joy made my weekend
2) Australia. Nice to see them being brought down a peg or ten
Quote from: stephenite on August 24, 2009, 12:16:44 PM
They're arrogant enough when winning, but they're pretty gracious when losing I find. Don't confuse their media with a national trait
Generally that's true, and Adam Gilchrist was probably the last Corinthian left in professional sport. But seeing Ricky Ponting bleating about the spirit of the game then second-guessing every decision is to see sporting hypocrisy at its most acute. They need to learn the art of losing, and the more practise they get the better
Quote from: deiseach on August 24, 2009, 02:07:49 PM
Quote from: stephenite on August 24, 2009, 12:16:44 PM
They're arrogant enough when winning, but they're pretty gracious when losing I find. Don't confuse their media with a national trait
Generally that's true, and Adam Gilchrist was probably the last Corinthian left in professional sport. But seeing Ricky Ponting bleating about the spirit of the game then second-guessing every decision is to see sporting hypocrisy at its most acute. They need to learn the art of losing, and the more practise they get the better
I'm not doubting you, I didn't see a lot of the tests (middle of the night) but where did Punter second guess every decision that was made? There are some lads in work, and one is adamant that Ponting is the most sporting Aussie cricket captain in eons, others disagree and I'd like the ammo 'cos I hate the Ponting fan
Dunno what it's like over east, Stephenite, but it's eerily quiet in the west. Even the Dockers thumping the bombers made it to no.1 in the news. Not for the fact that they won, but for the fact that the cricketers lost. Hell damnit, even coming fourth in Miss Universe got a higher rating.
Quote from: Aerlik on August 25, 2009, 02:11:30 AM
Dunno what it's like over east, Stephenite, but it's eerily quiet in the west. Even the Dockers thumping the bombers made it to no.1 in the news. Not for the fact that they won, but for the fact that the cricketers lost. Hell damnit, even coming fourth in Miss Universe got a higher rating.
Most of the media pundits are plastered all over the front pages of the main newspapers, it was headline news on Monday on all major news TV shows, Fox Sports News were running with it all day.
They are basically all saying the same thing. Engerland were the better team over the test series, the decision not to play a spinner was probably their undoing and the selectors are getting a going over for that.
Shane Warne is lambasting everyone in sight but that's just Shane Warne and him loving the sound of his own voice.
Anyone I've talked to has admitted that the better team won, but will all point out that Australia have had an amazing run over the years, that you can't just replace players like Warne, Glenn McGrath, Gilly and Justin Langer - once in a couple of generation players.
Quote from: Minder on August 23, 2009, 09:22:06 PM
I heard that boyo Trott interviewed yesterday after his century and he sounded as English as Kevin Pietersen..........
His dad is as English as KP's mum.