Every sporting competition appears to get its own thread these days, so I thought I'd get this ball rolling. Wimbledon is always one of the sporting events I look forward to more than others, and the last two finals were two epics that had the feel of history being written as I watched the telly.
Hoping Nadal is able to defend his title- somehow it wouldn't feel the same without both he and Federer. Despite his protestations, I don't think Nadal could be anywhere close to 100%, he was beaten comfortably by Hewitt in an exhibition match today in which his movement was apparently clearly limited. Can't look past Federer and Murray for this one, Murray in my mind being the favourite.
As for the women's, anyone of about six or seven could win it. Probably end up being Venus or Serena though.
I'd like to start a petition to see topless women tennis.
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 09:44:29 PM
Every sporting competition appears to get its own thread these days, so I thought I'd get this ball rolling. Wimbledon is always one of the sporting events I look forward to more than others, and the last two finals were two epics that had the feel of history being written as I watched the telly.
Hoping Nadal is able to defend his title- somehow it wouldn't feel the same without both he and Federer. Despite his protestations, I don't think Nadal could be anywhere close to 100%, he was beaten comfortably by Hewitt in an exhibition match today in which his movement was apparently clearly limited. Can't look past Federer and Murray for this one, Murray in my mind being the favourite.
As for the women's, anyone of about six or seven could win it. Probably end up being Venus or Serena though.
Based on what?
American who reached the top 40 a few years ago, Ashley Harkleroad, got it all out for Playboy last year if that works for you...
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2009, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 09:44:29 PM
Every sporting competition appears to get its own thread these days, so I thought I'd get this ball rolling. Wimbledon is always one of the sporting events I look forward to more than others, and the last two finals were two epics that had the feel of history being written as I watched the telly.
Hoping Nadal is able to defend his title- somehow it wouldn't feel the same without both he and Federer. Despite his protestations, I don't think Nadal could be anywhere close to 100%, he was beaten comfortably by Hewitt in an exhibition match today in which his movement was apparently clearly limited. Can't look past Federer and Murray for this one, Murray in my mind being the favourite.
As for the women's, anyone of about six or seven could win it. Probably end up being Venus or Serena though.
Based on what?
The fact that he's won a bucketload of tournaments, is the world number 3 on merit, has a commanding career lead over Federer and Nadal being injured.
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2009, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 09:44:29 PM
Every sporting competition appears to get its own thread these days, so I thought I'd get this ball rolling. Wimbledon is always one of the sporting events I look forward to more than others, and the last two finals were two epics that had the feel of history being written as I watched the telly.
Hoping Nadal is able to defend his title- somehow it wouldn't feel the same without both he and Federer. Despite his protestations, I don't think Nadal could be anywhere close to 100%, he was beaten comfortably by Hewitt in an exhibition match today in which his movement was apparently clearly limited. Can't look past Federer and Murray for this one, Murray in my mind being the favourite.
As for the women's, anyone of about six or seven could win it. Probably end up being Venus or Serena though.
Based on what?
The fact that he's won a bucketload of tournaments, is the world number 3 on merit, has a commanding career lead over Federer and Nadal being injured.
World of difference between ATP tournamnets and Slams, Nadal and Federer seem to use them to fine tune their game before a Grand Slam. I cant see any way that Murray can beat Federer on grass at present. Until Murray wins a Grand Slam i cant see how you can make him favourite for one.
Grand. Without being insulting, I don't generally seek people's approval of my opinions.
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 10:01:26 PM
Grand. Without being insulting, I don't generally seek people's approval of my opinions.
If you can't accept people questioning your opinions then I'm afraid you're in the wrong place.
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 10:01:26 PM
Grand. Without being insulting, I don't generally seek people's approval of my opinions.
Touchy.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2009, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 10:01:26 PM
Grand. Without being insulting, I don't generally seek people's approval of my opinions.
If you can't accept people questioning your opinions then I'm afraid you're in the wrong place.
Thanks for the advice...
I was merely pointing out the, in my mind perfectly valid, reasons why I think Murray should be favourite.
Right Said Fred has more chance of winning Wimbledon - some unranked Eastern European will dump Murray out before the second week!
I really don't know why there is so much ill feeling towards to Murray. He has made massive progress over the last 2 years and has matched Federer progress at the same age ( though at his current age Fed went on an unreal run). But that is comparing him with possibly the greatest player ever to have played the game.
Murray has every right to be among the favourites here having won several times on tour this year and last as well as getting to the final of the US Open.
Even though he is a moody bollix id have thought his hatred for the English would have made him a favourite on these shores ;)
QuoteThe fact that he's won a bucketload of tournaments, is the world number 3 on merit, has a commanding career lead over Federer and Nadal being injured.
I don't see how anyone can have Murray favourite over Federer, even if Nadal was fit and ready I would still have Federer as favourite - his record on grass is astounding!
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 19, 2009, 09:32:38 AM
QuoteThe fact that he's won a bucketload of tournaments, is the world number 3 on merit, has a commanding career lead over Federer and Nadal being injured.
I don't see how anyone can have Murray favourite over Federer, even if Nadal was fit and ready I would still have Federer as favourite - his record on grass is astounding!
Just purely down to the fact that he isn't the player he was, or else he still is but a few have caught up with him. He'd done nothing this year until he beat an exhausted Nadal in the final of Madrid. His only challenge that should have been a challenge (Haas has never beaten him) at the French was del Potro. On the other hand, Murray won a rake of tournaments at the start of the year, including the Miami Masters, had his best ever clay court season and breezed through Queen's. That is why I feel justified in making him favourite.
In the past, have many winners of Queens gone on to win at Wimbledon like Murray did this year folks?
It's a good indicator of grass court abilities, but over the last few years other than last year (Nadal won it) it hasn't been as indicative due to Federer playing at Halle to warm up for Wimbledon instead. Sampras, Hewitt, Becker and Edberg are all notable past Queen's and Wimbledon champions.
Nadal out of Wimbledon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8085394.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8085394.stm)
Fed or Muz then.
Great opportunity for Murray. Still think Federer will have enough for him though - despite Murray's outstanding potential he hasn't made that Grand Slam breakthrough, and he submitted very meekly in the final of the US Open. He's a future champion but it might be a year too soon for him.
Murray has a great record against Federer............................Except when it matters.
True - so far anyway. But he's improving and he put Nadal out of last year's US Open. Fed is past his best but, like Sampras, I reckon he'll still grab a few majors on his way back down.
Quote from: HowAreYeGettinOn on June 21, 2009, 12:43:24 AM
True - so far anyway. But he's improving and he put Nadal out of last year's US Open. Fed is past his best but, like Sampras, I reckon he'll still grab a few majors on his way back down.
Not sure if Fed is past his best, its just Nadal is some animal. Nadal was fcuked last year when Murray beat him, had a full programme at the Olympics (Gold medal) where Murray was beaten in the first round. Grass isnt Murrays best surface, he is a better hard court player. People seem to forget he also played a lot in Barcelona on clay growing up.
Should Fed regain the Wimbledon title, I'm sure we'll hear plenty about how it 'doesn't count' because Nadal wasn't there.
Quote from: HowAreYeGettinOn on June 21, 2009, 01:05:16 AM
Should Fed regain the Wimbledon title, I'm sure we'll hear plenty about how it 'doesn't count' because Nadal wasn't there.
You think? There hasn't been a word about the fact that he didn't beat Nadal at the French.
Can't remember any of the other articles but I was basing that on this kind of thing...
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/heatindex/articles/2009/06/07/20090607spt-p2maincoro.html
http://tennis.fanhouse.com/2009/06/07/greatest-of-all-time-not-yet/
Nadal's absence next week (and in the FO final) denies Federer the satisfaction of beating Rafa in a major final, at least until the US. No guarantee that Rafa will make that final given that he hasn't ever made one there.
Maybe this is all moot - Roger will take the trophies, thanks very much - but with the run Nadal has on him in majors at the moment it would have been fascinating to see if Federer could have beaten him in London.
Quote from: Minder on June 21, 2009, 12:37:42 AM
Murray has a great record against Federer............................Except when it matters.
Id agree more with Gallsman than any of ye, look at the above statement, it always matters, Minder ALWAYS. Murray has a great record over the Fed, pyschological advantage, knows he can beat him. Federer has a mental block where Rafa is concerned, im not sure he believes himself that he can beat him, ah but Rafa got knocked out of paris and now wimbledon. So that obstacle is gone.
Murray had his best clay court season ever, now to grass which he is better again on, The advantage of seedings is huge, in US open murray beat Nadal in semi in a class match and then had to face a fresh Federer, Murray victory over Nadal took its toll, it happens.
Murray will have the crowd with him despite his hate for england ;D, so thats another help.
Im expecting big things from Murray, even Djorkovic cant be ruled out, like verdasco , tsonga all dark horses. Its been an upword curve for murray, and Ive seen loads of his matches this yr, and the lad is going to win a slam soon whether some of ye like it or not ;). I love his unpredictability on the court and he has the game to win wimbledon even at this stage.
QuoteNadal's absence next week (and in the FO final) denies Federer the satisfaction of beating Rafa in a major final. at least until the US. No guarantee that Rafa will make that final given that he hasn't ever made one there.
Maybe this is all moot - Roger will take the trophies, thanks very much - but with the run Nadal has on him in majors at the moment it would have been fascinating to see if Federer could have beaten him in London.
Federer has already beaten Nadal in 2 major finals.
Did anyone see Harry Findlay on the BBC at Ascot on Saturday, he wants Murray out of Wimbledon as he thinks he will win the US Open this year. I would say Harry has a fair few quid on him.
Never really watched Wimbledon before. Might give it a wee whirl this year.
I hear they are banning the women grunting this year.
Federa must be one of the greatest sportsmen of all time.
He never looks stressed, he's not on drugs, he's white, he's loaded. So why dont people hate him like they hate Beckham, Ronaldo or even Murray?
Cos he has manners.
Quote from: Billys Boots on June 22, 2009, 01:08:54 PM
Cos he has manners.
Yup, and he doesn't celebrate winning EACH AND EVERY f**king point like that p***k Murray.
Seriously why does he clench his fist after every single point?? Big f**king deal.
Quote from: Orior on June 22, 2009, 12:03:35 PM
Federa must be one of the greatest sportsmen of all time.
He never looks stressed, he's not on drugs, he's white, he's loaded. So why dont people hate him like they hate Beckham, Ronaldo or even Murray?
He's not a primadonna. He seems to quietly and methodically go about the business of winning. Beckham in his later career chose marketing and global branding over soccer. Ronaldo is just a cnut -that's an easy answer.
Murray has behaved like a huffy twat most of his career and is only now showing the benefit of some media training. I think it's ironic that although he's made no secret of despising the tossers (ex of Henmania) who queue to support him they still continue to do so in their droves.
Some of the points he won today were worth a good fist pump.
Tiger loves a fist pump. Whats wrong with it.
Quote from: down6061689194 on June 23, 2009, 07:59:34 PM
Some of the points he won today were worth a good fist pump.
Tiger loves a fist pump. Whats wrong with it.
If it was after a long rally, a great ace, or an adrenaline puming point with a big dive or something-by all means go apeshit afterwards but on even the shite points, the easy points he's clenching his fist.
Does Tiger clench after every shot?
Plus I am just gonna avoid the whole 'good fist pump' phrase, so many connotations spring to mind!!
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on June 23, 2009, 08:00:52 PM
Quote from: down6061689194 on June 23, 2009, 07:59:34 PM
Some of the points he won today were worth a good fist pump.
Tiger loves a fist pump. Whats wrong with it.
If it was after a long rally, a great ace, or an adrenaline puming point with a big dive or something-by all means go apeshit afterwards but on even the shite points, the easy points he's clenching his fist.
Does Tiger clench after every shot?
Plus I am just gonna avoid the whole 'good fist pump' phrase, so many connotations spring to mind!!
Heather Graham again?
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 23, 2009, 08:24:15 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on June 23, 2009, 08:00:52 PM
Quote from: down6061689194 on June 23, 2009, 07:59:34 PM
Some of the points he won today were worth a good fist pump.
Tiger loves a fist pump. Whats wrong with it.
If it was after a long rally, a great ace, or an adrenaline puming point with a big dive or something-by all means go apeshit afterwards but on even the shite points, the easy points he's clenching his fist.
Does Tiger clench after every shot?
Plus I am just gonna avoid the whole 'good fist pump' phrase, so many connotations spring to mind!!
Heather Graham again?
I hadn't even thought of that...
Can't wait to get home now...
Hantuchova is an old favourite of mine... Following her now...
In the younger days my favourites were Dokic, Hingis and Coetzer... Used to follow them about when the BBC brought in their interactive coverage...
Quote
Federer has already beaten Nadal in 2 major finals.
Indeed - but I think it's fair to say that Nadal hadn't hit his peak at that stage. He has now (imo), he's no.1, and he beat Fed in the French '08, Wimbledon '08 and Australian '09.
Federer would dearly love to beat Rafa in a major final now, and must have thought Wimbledon was his best chance to do that. But I'm sure he'd settle for Flushing in September!
Elena Baltacha daughter of St Johnstone legend Sergei is playing today.
The British sport minister is questioning the amount of money the brit govt allocates to UK tennis given the poor return on investment they get. In twenty years they have had tiger tim, jezza bates, murray (who was trained in Florida I think), so he has a valid point.
did anyone else see a bloke wearing what I think was a Down top at the Murray game yesterday
Quote from: Square Ball on June 26, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
did anyone else see a bloke wearing what I think was a Down top at the Murray game yesterday
Yeah I noticed that
Quote from: Doogie Browser on June 25, 2009, 12:44:30 PM
Elena Baltacha daughter of St Johnstone legend Sergei is playing today.
The British sport minister is questioning the amount of money the brit govt allocates to UK tennis given the poor return on investment they get. In twenty years they have had tiger tim, jezza bates, murray (who was trained in Florida I think), so he has a valid point.
Yer woman was bate today.
Murray is the only one that looks like the real deal. I think he took himself off to Spain when he was 15 to live and practice there.
Current odds for the top two which are far too tight for the first week:
Fed 8/13, Murray 2/1.
So value is there in the next batch:
Djokovic 12/1 (esp)
Roddick 14/1
Tsonga 25/1
Murray's match is getting interesting...
Wawrinka is playing better now
Quote from: Rois on June 29, 2009, 09:41:32 PM
Murray's match is getting interesting...
Tis indeed Rois, strange watching Wimbledon live at thsi time of night.
2 sets all now. Thought it was all over in the middle of that set so turned it off.
Centre Court looks the part at night.
Although the Hill looked very very dark there - or maybe I was imagining it. It doesn't seem so dark here.
Quote from: Rois on June 29, 2009, 09:55:38 PM
Although the Hill looked very very dark there - or maybe I was imagining it. It doesn't seem so dark here.
Its due to the time difference
Quote from: Rois on June 29, 2009, 09:55:38 PM
Although the Hill looked very very dark there - or maybe I was imagining it. It doesn't seem so dark here.
When i came back over at the start of june after being at home for a week (yes pints on my last hols) i noticed that it got dark alot earlier here compared to home-i'm sure theres some scientific explanation- but weird you noticed that!
Well I suppose we're further west and further north, kinda makes sense in the summer.
Sure it's still seventy degrees with the sun shining in Tyrone...
Murray is frustrating me - play it short man, he doesn't like the net.
Murray is frustrating me too, because he is winning
I was watching it there. There was a scary looking woman behind Wawrinka. I saw her on HD. Had to turn the TV off.
Ah he's coming on rightly now.
That last point, faced the wrong way, down the line - amazing
Are Scottish saltires banned from centre court?
Feck
Getting interesting. New roof is some jab.
bloody hell, dould he be on his way out?
how many games in a set?
A good few famous faces in the crowd.
Murray is looking a bit shaky on it.
Such a shot from Murray.. Dont mind the fella. The crowd give me the skitter!!
some match all the same. murray can win it for the Scots
how many does that court hold?
great shot, your mans doing well. big game now
Murray has played some good stuff, the crowd would sicken your hole though.
Quote from: Yes I Would on June 29, 2009, 10:28:42 PM
Such a shot from Murray.. Dont mind the fella. The crowd give me the skitter!!
I concur. Used to hate the sight of him but the fact that he has a healthy dislike of those Middle England cnuts standing cheering him, means it's hard to dislike the fella!
Did he win the whole tournament?
Enjoyed that.. Dont think he will win it, or at least i hope to god he doesnt!!
get over the crowd pints. fair fooks to Murray, unconventional with his approach to the media. he's clearly doing it for himself family and country.
very enjoyable game there, I like the fella but its those annoying feckers of supporters
Quote from: milltown row on June 29, 2009, 10:41:13 PM
get over the crowd pints. fair fooks to Murray, unconventional with his approach to the media. he's clearly doing it for himself family and country.
Not quite, he has been reinvented (by his PR people I would say) into a more English media friendly sort. You won't here him saying he hopes England get tanked in football again that's for sure. It's not as if any of them are doing or for their country
When he loses he will be known as a Scottish man. They will claim him when he's going well.
i dont think so minder. this guy has a chance at every glam slam to win. he does not give a flying fook about England or the supporters.
Fair fcuks to Murray
Was a decent match, but the difficulty in disposing of someone ranked 19th doesnt suggest he will win it.
Someone was mentioning about the fist pumps & how it annoyed them.
It is clear that he gets them from his 'oul doll
Did anyone see her last night?
QuoteSomeone was mentioning about the fist pumps & how it annoyed them.
It is clear that he gets them from his 'oul doll
A bit early for that sort of talk fb :D
Quote from: Declan on June 30, 2009, 08:52:35 AM
QuoteSomeone was mentioning about the fist pumps & how it annoyed them.
It is clear that he gets them from his 'oul doll
A bit early for that sort of talk fb :D
:D :D
Apologies Declan
Did anyone see Murray's 'oul doll clenching her fist after every point he got last night
It is clear he didnt get this type of behaviour from the ditches ;)
Quote from: full back on June 30, 2009, 08:04:15 AM
Fair fcuks to Murray
Was a decent match, but the difficulty in disposing of someone ranked 19th doesnt suggest he will win it.
Someone was mentioning about the fist pumps & how it annoyed them.
It is clear that he gets them from his 'oul doll
Did anyone see her last night?
Don't be fooled by Wawrinka's ranking, he's been as high as 9 and is a seriously talented player who will cause anyone problems. Also has one of the best backhands in the game. This was a very good win for Murray.
Wawrinka has talent but has never been past the 4th round at a Grand Slam which tells a tale.
Quote from: Minder on June 30, 2009, 11:25:31 AM
Wawrinka has talent but has never been past the 4th round at a Grand Slam which tells a tale.
But does he not practice with Murray, so he'd know Murray's game inside out...
Cornerback, Im sure if you practised with Murray you wouldn't run him to 5 sets.
and also that means Murray knows his opponents game inside out too...so kind of cancels that out!
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 30, 2009, 02:07:06 PM
Cornerback, Im sure if you practised with Murray you wouldn't run him to 5 sets.
yeah, but i'm not a world top 20 tennis pro with a career high of No. 9 (last year I think)
Quote from: supersub on June 30, 2009, 02:17:33 PM
and also that means Murray knows his opponents game inside out too...so kind of cancels that out!
No, it means that they both know each others game & virtually cancel each other out - the one who adapts the best & can punish the others weakness(es) will come out on top. Tennis players aren't stupid, i'm sure wawrinka knows his weakness & that murray more than anyone on the tour will know his weakness, so he went about the match in such a way that made it difficult to exploit...
Just heard on the radio that there was some eye candy at the tennis last night. Apparently available 28:37 in on the iplayer. Someone do the needful.
that was some entertainment last night, better than 90% of premier league matches i watch. wimbledon normally passes me by as something that happens while at work but if they schedule some of the bigger matches at night they could get huge numbers of new viewers.. well done to murray he showed heart i didnt think he had
Murray Flying hes two sets up already. Looks like his getting a semi
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 30, 2009, 06:14:08 PM
Just heard on the radio that there was some eye candy at the tennis last night. Apparently available 28:37 in on the iplayer. Someone do the needful.
Was that the big one in the red top?
Was funny as fcuk when McEnroe went quiet when the camera was on her & he said "I'm speechless" :D :D
surely night tennis is on the way despite andy murrays objections.... 12m watched the other night
Quote from: longball on July 01, 2009, 04:34:46 PM
Murray Flying hes two sets up already. Looks like his getting a semi
Are his shorts that tight?
Serena through to final and Venus looking good to join her.
Venus wins 6-1 6-0 :o
The Williams domination at Wimbledon continues - 8 out of last 10 winners and fourth all Williams Wimbledon final.
By the way Venus played there, Serena will be blown away.
Incredible - poor Safina didn't have a chance, although she was very very very poor.
She seems like the brother and does not look to have the temperament for it.
I really don't like the Williams sisters...
I prefer my ladies tennis players to look like... well ladies.
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 02, 2009, 05:55:07 PM
I really don't like the Williams sisters...
I prefer my ladies tennis players to look like... well ladies.
Neither do I....what's the old saying, "you can take the man out of the bog"
They'll never have any class no matter how much money they make!
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 02, 2009, 05:55:07 PM
I really don't like the Williams sisters...
I prefer my ladies tennis players to look like... well ladies.
I agree with this but struggle to articulate it. I cannot put a finger on why I dislike the Williiams sisters, especially Serena. There's something about her on-court demeanour that's off-putting.
Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2009, 11:59:22 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 02, 2009, 05:55:07 PM
I really don't like the Williams sisters...
I prefer my ladies tennis players to look like... well ladies.
I agree with this but struggle to articulate it. I cannot put a finger on why I dislike the Williiams sisters, especially Serena. There's something about her on-court demeanour that's off-putting.
If you put your finger on it she'd snap it off. The fact is most tennis players are hot housed from a young age so there is usually a pushy parent lurking in the shadows. It's them I can't stand. Papa Williams (Richard?) seems like a strange one to me.
Quote from: Tyrones own on July 02, 2009, 10:46:52 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 02, 2009, 05:55:07 PM
I really don't like the Williams sisters...
I prefer my ladies tennis players to look like... well ladies.
Neither do I....what's the old saying, "you can take the man out of the bog"
They'll never have any class no matter how much money they make!
That seems a bit snobby.. you don;t like them cos they have had a rough upbringing?
Quite like them myself seem like friendly types and Serena would definitely get a rattle
Quote from: Rav67 on July 03, 2009, 01:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on July 02, 2009, 10:46:52 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 02, 2009, 05:55:07 PM
I really don't like the Williams sisters...
I prefer my ladies tennis players to look like... well ladies.
Neither do I....what's the old saying, "you can take the man out of the bog"
They'll never have any class no matter how much money they make!
That seems a bit snobby.. you don;t like them cos they have had a rough upbringing?
Quite like them myself seem like friendly types and Serena would definitely get a rattle
No, not at all.......... It's because they look and act like spoiled brats on court and in most interviews afterwards,
showing little to no respect to their opponents...especially God forbid when they're beaten!
They seem little different to how any other tennis players behave. Long may they reign supreme as it puts 2 fingers up to the attepmted middle-class, millionnaires-only tennis production line.
It was some game betwen serena and dementivia yesterday and the russian had her chances to win but didnt take them.
This by on means is intented to come across racist. But has there been many other black tennis players both male or female to be successful? I remember your fella Malavi Washington who got to the final in 1996, he was a black fella. Any other?
Quote from: High Wide and Handsome on July 03, 2009, 10:15:16 AM
This by on means is intented to come across racist. But has there been many other black tennis players both male or female to be successful? I remember your fella Malavi Washington who got to the final in 1996, he was a black fella. Any other?
Arthur Ashe won a few slams.
Yannick Noah
Zina Garrison
Not a whole lot to be honest.
Arthur Ashe, James Blake is reasonably successful, Monfils of France is another.
Quote from: Minder on July 03, 2009, 10:22:51 AM
Arthur Ashe, James Blake is reasonably successful, Monfils of France is another.
He was caught up in a racism row recently, Carol 'the devils spawn' Thatcher called him a golliwog ::)
Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 03, 2009, 10:26:29 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 03, 2009, 10:22:51 AM
Arthur Ashe, James Blake is reasonably successful, Monfils of France is another.
He was caught up in a racism row recently, Carol 'the devils spawn' Thatcher called him a golliwog ::)
thats right i mind hearin bout that with thatcher matchin a spa of herself. your fella blake was decent there 4 a while. forgot bout him. think he was knocked out in 1st round at w'don this year
Quote from: High Wide and Handsome on July 03, 2009, 10:32:47 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 03, 2009, 10:26:29 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 03, 2009, 10:22:51 AM
Arthur Ashe, James Blake is reasonably successful, Monfils of France is another.
He was caught up in a racism row recently, Carol 'the devils spawn' Thatcher called him a golliwog ::)
thats right i mind hearin bout that with thatcher matchin a spa of herself. your fella blake was decent there 4 a while. forgot bout him. think he was knocked out in 1st round at w'don this year
By a racist? Bit harsh for a tennis match if you ask me. Oops sorry, should really keep in tone with the thread...."Bit harsh for a tennis match if you axe me"
Federer eases through in straight sets. Murray and Roddick now, bookies have Roddick at 12/5, seems generous though Murray does have a great record in their head to heads.
Playing for second i think, tho Murray i imagine would make a better challenger to the fed than Roddick.
There won't be much between the Williams sisters tomorrow. I wish i was!! ;)
Roddick hasn't read the script
Stiffler wins the first set.
Jaysus Murray can't stop hitting into the net!!
Roddick looks much faster and stronger - Murray's going for the clever shots.
12/5 for roddick :'(
Quote from: Keyser soze on July 03, 2009, 04:05:58 PM
Playing for second i think, tho Murray i imagine would make a better challenger to the fed than Roddick.
There won't be much between the Williams sisters tomorrow. I wish i was!! ;)
Dear lord why?????
Roddick is playing very well
Andy could become a Scot very quickly if he loses :D
Must have been something in Murray's juice at the break.
Quote from: Keyser soze on July 03, 2009, 04:05:58 PM
There won't be much between the Williams sisters tomorrow. I wish i was!! ;)
Sweet Jesus!
Quote from: full back on July 03, 2009, 04:20:44 PM
Roddick is playing very well
Andy could become a Scot very quickly if he loses :D
lol! the oul brits love jumping on the bandwagon lol!!
here i wonder how tim henman is feelin. useless **** tried for a decade to do something at wimbledon. not worth a shite the on lol! probably just living of ariel detergent ads moneys now lol
Murray is a break up in second set c'mon Andy
just watching online here on the bbc, not a massive fan of brit andy murray but i like the way he tries to distance himself away from the foreign media thinking he is english, i hope he wins cause the coverage of his progress over here by the media is pretty funny, it's like people from meath saying they want dublin to win the all ireland because they both come from leinster ;)
"Not a seat to be seen anywhere on Centre - except in the Royal Box, where's there's a line of eight sitting empty. Maybe they're keeping them free should Lizzy break the habit of a lifetime and fancy a Friday afternoon without the corgis. Who'll crack first? Murray is suddenly wobbling like a trifle in a tornado" from the bbc text updates you sure cant beat the bbc for a bit of craic
Has Murray got the balls and the game to get back into it?
Quote from: lob her in lad on July 03, 2009, 04:58:23 PM
"Not a seat to be seen anywhere on Centre - except in the Royal Box, where's there's a line of eight sitting empty. Maybe they're keeping them free should Lizzy break the habit of a lifetime and fancy a Friday afternoon without the corgis. Who'll crack first? Murray is suddenly wobbling like a trifle in a tornado" from the bbc text updates you sure cant beat the bbc for a bit of craic
Read at the weekend that her very busy diary is 'free' this Sunday, just in case, bet that is a great incentive for Andy.
Quote from: High Wide and Handsome on July 03, 2009, 04:41:54 PM
Quote from: full back on July 03, 2009, 04:20:44 PM
Roddick is playing very well
Andy could become a Scot very quickly if he loses :D
lol! the oul brits love jumping on the bandwagon lol!!
here i wonder how tim henman is feelin. useless **** tried for a decade to do something at wimbledon. not worth a shite the on lol! probably just living of ariel detergent ads moneys now lol
Four "lol"s in one post. HWAH you are a w**ker.
Quote from: SidelineKick on July 03, 2009, 05:25:08 PM
Quote from: High Wide and Handsome on July 03, 2009, 04:41:54 PM
Quote from: full back on July 03, 2009, 04:20:44 PM
Roddick is playing very well
Andy could become a Scot very quickly if he loses :D
lol! the oul brits love jumping on the bandwagon lol!!
here i wonder how tim henman is feelin. useless **** tried for a decade to do something at wimbledon. not worth a shite the on lol! probably just living of ariel detergent ads moneys now lol
Four "lol"s in one post. HWAH you are a w**ker.
does that not make you worse i just had to read five of them in your post??
but your right it wrecks my head with people abbreviating everything why can we not just write stuff out the way it's supposed to be and if you have to put laugh out loud after a comment chances are people will not be laughing out loud but rather groaning at your attempt at humour,
Murray serving to make it 5-5 in the third set, he just broke Roddicks serve,
may love and leave ye i'm off to the trafford centre so hoping all the mancs will be on the bandwagon watching Murray and I won't be stuck in traffic
lol sorry nearly lost the run of myself there
Roddick 2-1 up after winning 3rd set on a tie break
p.s how annoying is Andy Murray's ma?
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 03, 2009, 05:52:43 PM
Roddick 2-1 up after winning 3rd set on a tie break
p.s how annoying is Andy Murray's ma?
Almost as annoying as High Wide and Handsome.
Keep me posted on result, hope the tw@t is beat.
Fair play to the two Andys, they are going at it hammer and tongs for the honour of having a tennis-racket shaped imprint branded on their arse by Roger Federer
Tie breaker in the 4th set.
Roddick has won 25 out of 29 tie breaks this year.
sad for murray, but I have no doubt he will be back to win it some year
SidelineKick will be a happy man now!
Great stuff, Murray was 1/4 to win today, crazy price. The hurt goes on..........
Has Sue Barker got the rope up yet?
;D Great to see that annoying fist pumping pr**k beaten
Quote from: Minder on July 03, 2009, 06:51:16 PM
Great stuff, Murray was 1/4 to win today, crazy price. The hurt goes on..........
Has Sue Barker got the rope up yet?
The bookies follow the money, and the only rope they'll be thinking of tonight is of the money-for-old variety
Poor old Murray, it's the same old story for the hapless Brits what with being beaten at their own games, I think it will be the same for the ashes this year although I said that in 05 and it came back to bite me, maybe Andy can get an Italian in to coach him it seems to work wonders for ourselves and the English. Just a thought.
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 10:41:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2009, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 10:01:26 PM
Grand. Without being insulting, I don't generally seek people's approval of my opinions.
If you can't accept people questioning your opinions then I'm afraid you're in the wrong place.
Thanks for the advice...
I was merely pointing out the, in my mind perfectly valid, reasons why I think Murray should be favourite.
Ahem.
Does this mean Murray is Scottish again?
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 03, 2009, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 10:41:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2009, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 10:01:26 PM
Grand. Without being insulting, I don't generally seek people's approval of my opinions.
If you can't accept people questioning your opinions then I'm afraid you're in the wrong place.
Thanks for the advice...
I was merely pointing out the, in my mind perfectly valid, reasons why I think Murray should be favourite.
Ahem.
Isn't hindsight great? I don't remember the fact that the USA beat Spain 2-0 changing the fact that the Spanish wer favourites.
will the brits ever learn!! i think its hilarious the way they big up their 'superstars' time and time again only to have their wee hearts broke cause their stars just aren't good enough!! time to wake up and smell the coffee british media-just not good enough!!!!
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on July 04, 2009, 10:32:05 AM
I think Roddick is a very likable character and would actually like to see him win the final. Any time ive seen him interviewed, he comes across as a modest sort of a guy who gives 110% every time he goes out on court. His 1st serves yesterday where just awesome, power and direction, very difficult to return when a man is n that sort of form with his serves.
always thought the same myself of Roddick. one of the commentators said in one of his earlier matches that he was the nicest and most liked player on the circuit. as much as i would like to see federer win and have the most majors, i think i'd like roddick to win this one.
Totally agree - hope Roddick wins the final.
I can't see Roddick taking more than one set from Federer
In 2005, Roddick threw everything he had at Federer and was still beaten in straight sets.
But this is 2009 - I can see Roddick winning this - Federer hasn't been tested.
Quote from: jimbo on July 04, 2009, 10:59:10 AM
But this is 2009 - I can see Roddick winning this - Federer hasn't been tested.
He has not been tested because he is on a different level to everyone else, bar Nadal ( who will have a tough time being the same player after his injuries).
Fair play to Roddick I hope he does the business in the final.
love to see roddick win but federer is pure class
Roddick wins the 1st set 7-5.
Some great Tennis being played by both players.
Roddick blew it there
If Federer wins from here, he'll have broken Roddick's serve only once throughout the match, whereas Roddick has broken Federer twice to win sets. Makes the tie-break system a little anomalous.
DId you ever see such a dull crowd at a sporting event!
We could be here a while :-\
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:29:19 PM
DId you ever see such a dull crowd at a sporting event!
You shoulda seen the atmosphere in the first half of the Down match last night.
I dunno who I am rooting for here, sorta siding with Andy at the minute...
Great game, some effort from these 2 players. Both on top of their game and not much getting past them on their own serve.
Much better watching this than that rubbish we watched in Clones yesterday.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:29:19 PM
DId you ever see such a dull crowd at a sporting event!
Well they're not supposed to be roaring and shouting during play for a start.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 05, 2009, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:29:19 PM
DId you ever see such a dull crowd at a sporting event!
Well they're not supposed to be roaring and shouting during play for a start.
Ach they could cheer or something if someone gets a point. Ffs you'd never think we were so close to an end in a final.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:53:13 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 05, 2009, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:29:19 PM
DId you ever see such a dull crowd at a sporting event!
Well they're not supposed to be roaring and shouting during play for a start.
Ach they could cheer or something if someone gets a point. Ffs you'd never think we were so close to an end in a final.
Are you deaf or do you have your TV on mute?
Every point is cheered from what im watching.
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 05, 2009, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:53:13 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 05, 2009, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:29:19 PM
DId you ever see such a dull crowd at a sporting event!
Well they're not supposed to be roaring and shouting during play for a start.
Ach they could cheer or something if someone gets a point. Ffs you'd never think we were so close to an end in a final.
Are you deaf or do you have your TV on mute?
Every point is cheered from what im watching.
it gets a light appaluse, there's a bit of a cheer, must be from the player's families or something.
That's not 10,000 or (or however many is there) cheering.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:55:57 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 05, 2009, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:53:13 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 05, 2009, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 05:29:19 PM
DId you ever see such a dull crowd at a sporting event!
Well they're not supposed to be roaring and shouting during play for a start.
Ach they could cheer or something if someone gets a point. Ffs you'd never think we were so close to an end in a final.
Are you deaf or do you have your TV on mute?
Every point is cheered from what im watching.
it gets a light appaluse, there's a bit of a cheer, must be from the player's families or something.
That's not 10,000 or (or however many is there) cheering.
Think the capacity is 15,000
youns chaps would argue about anything...
i seen alex ferguson going buck mad there. think feds experience should carry him through....good aul match bot sure its better than last years mind
D'oh
May call a draw.
something has to give soon.
Unsurprisingly they are both fucked
score
14-14 in the fifth
Hope roddick wins, really didn't expect him to put up this kinda battle, fed has only dropped 2 service games in the finals he has won previous to this
Roddick clinging on just about, those tougher matches over the fortnight will start to tell
will he take the chance?
?
yes he did, one break and he wins, well thats sport for you
Tough on Roddick, neither deserved to lose.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2009, 06:30:07 PM
Tough on Roddick, neither deserved to lose.
agree POG, great game with both players giving their all.
So on to England getting stuffed in the Ashes
You have to pay credit to Federer, he was absolutely crushed last year when Nadal beat him, a lot of people thought he was finished and has now won 3 out of the last 4 Slams .
He's beaten Sampras's grand slam haul of 14 in almost half the time. Has there been a better sportsman in history?
Although it will go down as an epic - it was an odd final set. Federer never had a break point (championship point) until the last point of the match. Only once did Roddick threaten to break Roger in that set. So it wasn't really that exciting and it got to the point when you just hoped someone would win to get it over and done with. The Nadal-Federer 9-7 last year and more twists and turns.
The winning for Federer was when he was 1-0 down in sets, 6-6 in the second and 6-2 down in the tie-breaker. That 2-3 minute spell when he turned it around to win 8-6 was the best tennis in the match. I've seen Federer play much better than that overall.
They were both so strong on serve, aside from Federers ability he has some mentality. You would hardly know if it was the first point or Championship point, he never panics and has total faith in his game. I actually thought Federer was tiring more than Federer when it was about 12-12 but Roddicks tank emptied a bit quicker at the death. Some people say it is boring the same player winning all the time but if you can't appreciate watching a player like Federer there is something wrong. He will be going for 6 US Opens in a row in the Autumn.............
Heard them say that Fed has reached 22 consecutive grand slam semi finals. That is some record. Felt sorry for Roddick at the end, didnt really expect him to get that close to Fed and would have been good to see him win it.
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on July 03, 2009, 10:03:16 PM
Does this mean Murray is Scottish again?
I checked the BBC website. He was Scottish within 10 mins.
Did Federer win the australian open this year?
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on July 05, 2009, 10:58:26 PM
Did Federer win the australian open this year?
No Nadal won it beating Federer in the final
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on July 05, 2009, 10:58:26 PM
Did Federer win the australian open this year?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo44ycnkbrE
so nadal has now won grandslams on 3 different surfaces. he was very impressive there
Andy up sh1t creek now.
Andy 2-0 down.
2-0 in sets down and 2-0 this set down. If Murray gets outta this I'll run around the gaaboard naked.
5-7, 2-6, 2-4....
5-7, 2-6, 2-5.....
Brilliant, is this the quarters?
5-7, 2-6, 2-6
Cleaved.
Twas the round before the quarters. Looked like a man who'd been on the piss.
Not even the quarters Anportmor, 4th round. He has always seen US Open as his best chance of winning a slam.
Conor Niland on tg4. think he plays fed if he wins
Quote from: Overthebar! on June 21, 2011, 02:20:21 PM
Conor Niland on tg4. think he plays fed if he wins
Ya fair play to Niland, he does play fed if he wins, best of luck, first Irishman since 1984 to qualify for Wimbledon..
Just held serve to 15 to lead 4-3 in first set. Be great if he gets through here.
Quote from: spuds on June 21, 2011, 02:46:29 PM
Just held serve to 15 to lead 4-3 in first set. Be great if he gets through here.
So far so good, 5-4 up holding his serve comfortably, putting pressure on mannarios serve, looks like he has a serious forehand. Definitly capable of winning. Nice to see the good Irish support..
2 set points on the break, come on,
1 set up 6-4, showed guts after manniirio got lucky break with net, fair play, looking good
Held serve excellently there, looking good. his father played county football for westmeath and mayo!
Who's his father?
Scored point.
Scratched his arse !!! - Why do people give blow by blow accounts on here if they have access to the internet they can watch it on iplayer!!!
Not everyone can access IPlayer, TG4 Player or whatever from work.
http://www.thescore.ie/a-bluffers-guide-to-conor-nilands-wimbledon-debut-160330-Jun2011/ (http://www.thescore.ie/a-bluffers-guide-to-conor-nilands-wimbledon-debut-160330-Jun2011/)
And those who do obviously have feck all to do giving a point by point analysis. I thought this thread was discussing the matches / players - one to avoid then!! - Oh think someone drank water there. ::)
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=149966
Quote from: Cold tea on June 21, 2011, 03:33:01 PM
And those who do obviously have feck all to do giving a point by point analysis. I thought this thread was discussing the matches / players - one to avoid then!! - Oh think someone drank water there. ::)
Ya im unemployed, cold tea you gotta problem or chip on your shoulder?
Niland lost 2nd set but just held serve 1-1 in 3rd set.
It'll be an awful disappointment if this lad turns out to be a Protestant.
his serve is really letting him down at times
He's a fighter
Unreal character showed when 40-0 down on his own serve and now 5-5 40-15 up, torture at times with inconsistency but its some entertainment, 6-5 up now come on
Quote from: ONeill on June 21, 2011, 04:08:21 PM
It'll be an awful disappointment if this lad turns out to be a Protestant.
or nearly 30 and born in Birmingham...
Lost tie-break. Had set point too again but produced two bad shots at the wrong time.
Came back from the dead and blew the 3rd set in the end, he saved 3 set points and then had 5 of his own and lost them all, long way back from here, hope his fitness is good and can keep it going and come back...
2-2. they are bound to be clean wrecked
Big prize for the winner - a hammering from Federrer on a main court.
he is motoring now, if he wins it there wont be a cow milked in limerick tonight :P
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 21, 2011, 03:26:46 PM
Who's his father?
His father, Ray, I think was born in Galway. He played Minor for Westmeath and Senior for Mayo, including winning a NFL title at left-corner back in 1970 on what was a team full of Mayo greats like Joe Corcoran, Joe Langan, Ray Prendergast, John Morley, Willie 'Four Goal' McGee and JJ Cribbin.
Shoite! 4-4 in the last. Niland was two breaks up and lost them both. Balls. Pressure on big style now. Great support for him there though.
Almost 4hrs game time these guys must be wrecked?
This man's a bigger choker than Rory.
Ah well :(
very disappointing to say the least
Produced his worst tennis after going 4-1 up in the last. Shouldn't have lost it from there considering he was two breaks up. Just went to bits nearing the finishing line.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 21, 2011, 06:25:37 PM
Produced his worst tennis after going 4-1 up in the last. Shouldn't have lost it from there considering he was two breaks up. Just went to bits nearing the finishing line.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on June 21, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 21, 2011, 03:26:46 PM
Who's his father?
His father, Ray, I think was born in Galway. He played Minor for Westmeath and Senior for Mayo,
Change counties, change sports, but some clouds just cant be shaken.. :P
Quote from: ONeill on June 21, 2011, 06:13:09 PM
This man's a bigger choker than Rory.
In that case in a few weeks he'll probably come back with a big win in the Doncaster & District Open.
Disappointing end, thought he had it, the match was so up and down, fair play to him getting that far,
Whatever happened Hewitt?
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 24, 2011, 03:30:43 PM
Whatever happened Hewitt?
Got bate yesterday by Sohderling after being 2-0 up!
I mean after his early noughties reign as number 1, how did he fall so far? Venus and Federer to be smiling next Sunday
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 25, 2011, 09:20:51 PM
I mean after his early noughties reign as number 1, how did he fall so far? Venus and Federer to be smiling next Sunday
A certain Swiss player appeared on the scene and got on a, ahem, roll.
Federer was on the scene then too, but it's more how he fell away from the top group of players
Think he started banging that blonde bit from Home and Away, enough to distract most men.
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 26, 2011, 10:29:42 AM
Federer was on the scene then too, but it's more how he fell away from the top group of players
He's been dogged by a hip injury. Was mentioned the other night that he's had surgery a couple of times on it since 2008.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2011, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 26, 2011, 10:29:42 AM
Federer was on the scene then too, but it's more how he fell away from the top group of players
He's been dogged by a hip injury. Was mentioned the other night that he's had surgery a couple of times on it since 2008.
Doesn't have the weapons either,especially serve. His never say die attitude can only get you so far...saying that it got him to number 1 so I might be chatting ballix
Murray wins, Serena Williams bate.
Quote from: AQMP on June 27, 2011, 03:30:06 PM
Murray wins, Serena Williams bate.
and Venus W bet too...
Federer into 5th set with Tsonga
Federer beaten after being 2 sets up. Tsonga vs. Djokovic in the semis.
Should Nadal be injured it's Murray's to lose ;)
i see afew empty seats in crowd, thought it would have been packed to the rafters for britains no1.
Back to being Jocky McBottle.
Looks like Sharapova is gonna get beaten in straight sets.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 02, 2011, 03:31:37 PM
Looks like Sharapova is gonna get beaten in straight sets.
Classy finish.
I was just feeling sorry for all the people who paid good money to get in there today to have to listen to that demented shrieking for the whole match. Time that was banned from the game.
Is it me or are breaks of serve much more frequent in the women's game? Rod Laver was once quoted as saying that it isn't a break until you've held serve yourself. That certainly looked like wisdom today.
Anyway. It never seemed like Kvitova was anything other than in control, so fair play to her. Delighted the Gruntmeister lost.
Quote from: deiseach on July 02, 2011, 04:07:45 PM
Is it me or are breaks of serve much more frequent in the women's game? Rod Laver was once quoted as saying that it isn't a break until you've held serve yourself. That certainly looked like wisdom today.
Anyway. It never seemed like Kvitova was anything other than in control, so fair play to her. Delighted the Gruntmeister lost.
The grunting is really annoying. Glad the quiet one won.
Quote from: deiseach on July 02, 2011, 04:07:45 PM
Is it me or are breaks of serve much more frequent in the women's game? Rod Laver was once quoted as saying that it isn't a break until you've held serve yourself. That certainly looked like wisdom today.
Anyway. It never seemed like Kvitova was anything other than in control, so fair play to her. Delighted the Gruntmeister lost.
Far more common. Men's serves are much faster and therefore more difficult to break.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 02, 2011, 04:24:35 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 02, 2011, 04:07:45 PM
Is it me or are breaks of serve much more frequent in the women's game? Rod Laver was once quoted as saying that it isn't a break until you've held serve yourself. That certainly looked like wisdom today.
Far more common. Men's serves are much faster and therefore more difficult to break.
Quite right, having a 'duh!' moment there after all these years of wondering whether I was imagining it
Jees I'm awful sick of thie 'fab four' nonsense from the Brits! It's a 'fab three' and Murray is not in the same league as Djokovic, Nadal and Fed. They have all won Grand Slams on different surfaces and proven themselves the best in the game while Murray has won a few second rate hard court tournaments.
Yes Murray is the best British Tennis player in a long time but I cannot see how he will beat any of the lads in a Grand Slam ever. All 3 would eat him up so people would need to get real about it.
Quote from: screenexile on July 04, 2011, 12:56:13 AM
Jees I'm awful sick of thie 'fab four' nonsense from the Brits! It's a 'fab three' and Murray is not in the same league as Djokovic, Nadal and Fed. They have all won Grand Slams on different surfaces and proven themselves the best in the game while Murray has won a few second rate hard court tournaments.
Yes Murray is the best British Tennis player in a long time but I cannot see how he will beat any of the lads in a Grand Slam ever. All 3 would eat him up so people would need to get real about it.
Murray with a bit of luck (an injury here or a great fortnight there) could win an Australian or a US Open.
But he won't be left alone at Wimbledon so I don't see him winning there.
Quote from: screenexile on July 04, 2011, 12:56:13 AM
Jees I'm awful sick of thie 'fab four' nonsense from the Brits! It's a 'fab three' and Murray is not in the same league as Djokovic, Nadal and Fed. They have all won Grand Slams on different surfaces and proven themselves the best in the game while Murray has won a few second rate hard court tournaments.
Yes Murray is the best British Tennis player in a long time but I cannot see how he will beat any of the lads in a Grand Slam ever. All 3 would eat him up so people would need to get real about it.
He beat Nadal a few years ago in the US Open semi only to lose to federer in the final. He's been unfortunate that Nadal and Federer have been in their prime thusfar in his career, now that federer is fading Djokovic is fulfilling earlier promise, so still no way through for Murray. I think he will win one, but maybe hard courts suit him better and therefore the US or Australia might be his best bet.
On a related note, is Wimbledon the most prestigous of the Grand Slams? I'm just asking as the players tend to say it is, but then they're being interviewed on BBC, do they say likewise about the other tournaments?
Quote from: Bogball XV on July 04, 2011, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 04, 2011, 12:56:13 AM
Jees I'm awful sick of thie 'fab four' nonsense from the Brits! It's a 'fab three' and Murray is not in the same league as Djokovic, Nadal and Fed. They have all won Grand Slams on different surfaces and proven themselves the best in the game while Murray has won a few second rate hard court tournaments.
Yes Murray is the best British Tennis player in a long time but I cannot see how he will beat any of the lads in a Grand Slam ever. All 3 would eat him up so people would need to get real about it.
He beat Nadal a few years ago in the US Open semi only to lose to federer in the final. He's been unfortunate that Nadal and Federer have been in their prime thusfar in his career, now that federer is fading Djokovic is fulfilling earlier promise, so still no way through for Murray. I think he will win one, but maybe hard courts suit him better and therefore the US or Australia might be his best bet.
On a related note, is Wimbledon the most prestigous of the Grand Slams? I'm just asking as the players tend to say it is, but then they're being interviewed on BBC, do they say likewise about the other tournaments?
It generally would be. Unlike the rest of the Grand Slams which have advertisers splashed everywhere around the court whereas Wimbledon holds strong on the fact it's all about the Tennis. Much like the Masters in Golf IMO it would be the one everyone wants to win!
Quote from: screenexile on July 04, 2011, 10:51:37 AM
It generally would be. Unlike the rest of the Grand Slams which have advertisers splashed everywhere around the court whereas Wimbledon holds strong on the fact it's all about the Tennis. Much like the Masters in Golf IMO it would be the one everyone wants to win!
I think the French Open matches Wimbledon in terms of desirability. To hold Wimbledon ahead of the French Open is to say that the serve-volleyer is a superior tennis player to the baseline slogger. Having said that, your point about the pristine nature of Wimbledon is well made. It does look better, right down to those immaculate courts versus the dust bowls of Roland Garros
Quote from: screenexile on July 04, 2011, 10:51:37 AMOn a related note, is Wimbledon the most prestigous of the Grand Slams? I'm just asking as the players tend to say it is, but then they're being interviewed on BBC, do they say likewise about the other tournaments?
It generally would be. Unlike the rest of the Grand Slams which have advertisers splashed everywhere around the court whereas Wimbledon holds strong on the fact it's all about the Tennis. Much like the Masters in Golf IMO it would be the one everyone wants to win!
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Yeah, I'd agree about the masters being the most prestigous, but you always hear the british open (The Open) winner saying that it's the oldest and most important, that he's dreamed of winning it since being a kid etc too... There'll always be a bit of that playing to your audience of course, just wondering about the tennis situation.
Nadal out of Wimbledon, big big shock.
Watched a doc on Andy Murray last night, was very good
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2013, 08:01:19 PM
Nadal out of Wimbledon, big big shock.
Watched a doc on Andy Murray last night, was very good
Thought Murray came across really well.
Feck it. Still waiting for a rematch of Federer-Nadal on grass. The 2008 final was easily the best game of tennis I've ever seen.
Wee bit of thread maintenance required on the subject line there Gallsman ;)
Nadal was awesome in the French Open, obviously that's clay court but you would never expect him to be making a first round exit, made a shock second round exit last year too. Federer will fancy his chances to regain the title now. Djokovic & Murray will no doubt be in the running too..
Someone on BBC said that was Nadal's first game on grass this year. Presumably he was trading off preparation against stress on his knee as grass is apparently much harder on his knee problem than clay or synthetic.
Quote from: Hardy on June 24, 2013, 09:42:49 PM
Someone on BBC said that was Nadal's first game on grass this year. Presumably he was trading off preparation against stress on his knee as grass is apparently much harder on his knee problem than clay or synthetic.
Haven't played in grass this year meself; but I can still knock the points over the bar
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 24, 2013, 09:08:38 PM
Nadal was awesome in the French Open, obviously that's clay court but you would never expect him to be making a first round exit, made a shock second round exit last year too. Federer will fancy his chances to regain the title now. Djokovic & Murray will no doubt be in the running too..
Retain. He won it last year!
Devastated that Nadal is out. Inexplicable to lose like that two years in a row, especially after he worked so hard to ensure he goes down as an all time great rather than a clay court specialist. Have been waiting for the next installment of Federer-Nadal at Wimbledon for five years now. Like Pacquiao and Mayweather, it doesn't look as if it will ever happen :(
Tony, I'd change it if I had the slightest clue where to begin.
Quote from: gallsman on June 25, 2013, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 24, 2013, 09:08:38 PM
Nadal was awesome in the French Open, obviously that's clay court but you would never expect him to be making a first round exit, made a shock second round exit last year too. Federer will fancy his chances to regain the title now. Djokovic & Murray will no doubt be in the running too..
Retain. He won it last year!
Devastated that Nadal is out. Inexplicable to lose like that two years in a row, especially after he worked so hard to ensure he goes down as an all time great rather than a clay court specialist. Have been waiting for the next installment of Federer-Nadal at Wimbledon for five years now. Like Pacquiao and Mayweather, it doesn't look as if it will ever happen :(
Tony, I'd change it if I had the slightest clue where to begin.
Yeah wrong word - obviously meant retain.
Wimbledon went into absolute meltdown yesterday with Federer and Sharapova beaten and an absolute rake of retirements and withdrawals.
Highest seed left in Murray's half of the draw is 15. Surely the men's tournament is just a procession to a Djokovic-Murray final now.
Did Dominika Cibulkova make it this year?
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Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2013, 02:37:48 PM
Wimbledon went into absolute meltdown yesterday with Federer and Sharapova beaten and an absolute rake of retirements and withdrawals.
Highest seed left in Murray's half of the draw is 15. Surely the men's tournament is just a procession to a Djokovic-Murray final now.
Maybe others such as Raonic, Dmititrov, Del Potro can step up to the plate.
Though he's won 5 'Slam titles in the meantime, I don't think Fed' has been the same player as before since Nadal beat him in the astonishing final of '08. Just hasn't had the same air of invincibility I think.
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 27, 2013, 02:48:13 PM
Did Dominika Cibulkova make it this year?
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Quote from: Orior on June 27, 2013, 05:28:31 PM
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians
:P
Is that Brian Ivers that is doing the commentary on TG4?
Quote from: All of a Sludden on July 01, 2013, 03:17:46 PM
Serena Williams has just been knocked out.
What happened her, did someone clatter her with a racquet?
Quote from: All of a Sludden on July 01, 2013, 03:17:46 PM
Serena Williams has just been knocked out.
Hope it was Audley Harrison ;)
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2009, 10:12:39 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 18, 2009, 10:01:26 PM
Grand. Without being insulting, I don't generally seek people's approval of my opinions.
Touchy.
its too rough for him and its just right for us!!
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Quote from: screenexile on July 04, 2011, 12:56:13 AM
Jees I'm awful sick of thie 'fab four' nonsense from the Brits! It's a 'fab three' and Murray is not in the same league as Djokovic, Nadal and Fed. They have all won Grand Slams on different surfaces and proven themselves the best in the game while Murray has won a few second rate hard court tournaments.
Yes Murray is the best British Tennis player in a long time but I cannot see how he will beat any of the lads in a Grand Slam ever. All 3 would eat him up so people would need to get real about it.
Murray with a bit of luck (an injury here or a great fortnight there) could win an Australian or a US Open.
But he won't be left alone at Wimbledon so I don't see him winning there.
This er prediction might get tested this week.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on July 01, 2013, 03:17:46 PM
Serena Williams has just been knocked out.
Yeah yeah, but her arse is still playing in the next round.
Quote from: muppet on July 01, 2013, 07:28:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 04, 2011, 01:00:40 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 04, 2011, 12:56:13 AM
Jees I'm awful sick of thie 'fab four' nonsense from the Brits! It's a 'fab three' and Murray is not in the same league as Djokovic, Nadal and Fed. They have all won Grand Slams on different surfaces and proven themselves the best in the game while Murray has won a few second rate hard court tournaments.
Yes Murray is the best British Tennis player in a long time but I cannot see how he will beat any of the lads in a Grand Slam ever. All 3 would eat him up so people would need to get real about it.
Murray with a bit of luck (an injury here or a great fortnight there) could win an Australian or a US Open.
But he won't be left alone at Wimbledon so I don't see him winning there.
This er prediction might get tested this week.
Did he not win a Grand Slam?
Forget what the British media say ffs, Murray comes accross as a decent lad and I hope he wins as many Grand Slams as the rest, Nadal is suffering big time with injuries Fed is coming to that stage were he'll struggle and the man who'll win more titles will be Djokovic, I think Djokovic will win this year, Murray is playing well and hasn't lost a set so give him some credit.
Quote from: Orior on July 01, 2013, 08:43:14 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on July 01, 2013, 03:17:46 PM
Serena Williams has just been knocked out.
Yeah yeah, but her arse is still playing in the next round.
Her arse was playing on the next court when I was watching.
Murray has a major.
To be fair to the guy he is very good. Just unfortunate to come along at the same time as federer, nadal and djokovic.
I think there are a few more majors in him too.
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 03:39:42 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on July 01, 2013, 03:17:46 PM
Serena Williams has just been knocked out.
What happened her, did someone clatter her with a racquet?
No some German beat her. Who is the favourite now?
Quote from: Capt Pat on July 01, 2013, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 03:39:42 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on July 01, 2013, 03:17:46 PM
Serena Williams has just been knocked out.
What happened her, did someone clatter her with a racquet?
No some German beat her. Who is the favourite now?
Probably the one with the belly, Kvikova. Would like to see Lisicki win it.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on July 01, 2013, 03:17:46 PM
Serena Williams has just been knocked out.
Should have more time to spend with the boyf... er... coach now.
@Milltown Row2 & @imtommygunn
Check the date of the original prediction.
Quote from: muppet on July 02, 2013, 02:51:26 PM
@Milltown Row2 & @imtommygunn
Check the date of the original prediction.
Ahhhh
Fantastic semi-final in progress between Djokovic and Del Potro. Final set just starting. Three tie-breaks and Del Potro won the other 6-4.
Quote from: Hardy on July 05, 2013, 05:11:33 PM
Fantastic semi-final in progress between Djokovic and Del Potro. Final set just starting. Three tie-breaks and Del Potro won the other 6-4.
Unbelievable game.
If tennis was ever better than it is now, it must have been pretty special. So many five-set blockbusters between great players.
Fascinating stuff alright. Del Potro looks out on his feet but still comes up with the big points.
Sorry - just for accuracy, it was two tie breaks. Del Potro's score:
5-7, 6-4, 6-7, 7-6. On serve in the fifth 2-2.
Quote from: deiseach on July 05, 2013, 05:26:40 PM
If tennis was ever better than it is now, it must have been pretty special. So many five-set blockbusters between great players.
Have to agree. I well remember Borg, McEnroe, Connors, Nastase et al and although I'm not a tennis fan I think that I'm looking back at that period through tinted glasses. Today's big players are just phenomenal athletes with skill levels I've never seen before.
Del Potro had lost the last 4 times he has went to 5 sets.
Make that 5 8)
That was phenomenal. Credit to both players.
Djoko' must be pound-for-pound the best value for money sportsperson on the planet. How many 5-set epic matches has he been involved in at this stage? Surely Del Potro is good (and young) enough to win Wimbledon sometime.
Quote from: Minder on July 05, 2013, 05:36:56 PM
Del Potro had lost the last 4 times he has went to 5 sets.
No balls...
The K Tape the polish lad has on his right arm is ridiculous. Pointless
Reminds me - what ever happened to nose clips?
Th wheels are coming off this polish wagon!!!
Do I not like that
g'wan andy ye boy ye ;)
The Polish ladeen's got a good noggin on his head. Huge advantage for him to have the roof closing break now.
Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2013, 08:43:33 PM
The Polish ladeen's got a good noggin on his head. Huge advantage for him to have the roof closing break now.
Closest we'll get to winning Wimbledon....gwan ya big Pole ye ;D
Been a cracking day of tennis.
Fair play to Murray. Fantastic for him to compete in a second successive final and win his fifth semi final. Can't see him winning as Novak is something else
Dunno. Murray is consistent. Few errors. I take Murray to win.
Lisicki and murray to win
Would love to see Murry win and I think he will.
Tennis
LOL
I miss the shrieking.
Sue Barker will implode if Murray doesn't win.
People have queued for two days, to watch the game on a big screen on a hill outside the main arena. Its a fecked up world.
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on July 06, 2013, 01:07:27 AM
Lisicki and murray to win
Hopefully your tip for the mens is as good as the womens.
That heat might fcuk Djokovic after his match with Del Potro.
And the winner of the 2013 BBC Sports Personality of the Year award is........................................
Well done Murray a great British lad.
If Mayo win an AI that will be the emotion!
Fair play to Murray.. Great win for the Scots.
There won't be a cow milked in SW13 for a week!
Outstanding and a great win for Murray, hopefully he'll continue to win a few more grand slams
good to see a scot (not a brit as be the case in the papers) win the one that matters in tennis
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 07, 2013, 05:43:24 PM
good to see a scot (not a brit as be the case in the papers) win the one that matters in tennis
That's it everyones bangs on about the papers, the same papers that give him a hard time about supporting any team bar England in the World Cup one year, I doubt very much that any creditable sports players reads those rags
Brilliant display by Murray today.
After the BOD affair, I think it's time to abandon our smugness about British sporting jingoism.
Saw nothing of it but I too would like to jump on the Andy Murray bandwagon and congratulate him.
I am sure he was waiting for my approval.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 07, 2013, 06:21:04 PM
Saw nothing of it but I too would like to jump on the Andy Murray bandwagon and congratulate him.
I am sure he was waiting for my approval.
You've made all the years of pain worthwhile.
Well done Murray 8)
Fred Perry can finally concentrate on his clothing empire.
And England's 77 year wait for a mens Wimbledon Champion..........
.....goes on.
Brillian performance. Was delihed o see i.
abcdefhijklmnopqrsuvwxyz. he ' ' and he ' ' don' seem o be workin.
Quote from: ONeill on July 07, 2013, 07:34:56 PM
Brillian performance. Was delihed o see i.
abcdefhijklmnopqrsuvwxyz. he ' ' and he ' ' don' seem o be workin.
Still in Roscommon?
Quote from: muppet on July 07, 2013, 07:32:46 PM
And England's 77 year wait for a mens Wimbledon Champion..........
.....goes on.
lol.
Well done Murray. Good to see at least one Scottish Saltire being waved at the finish (Alex Salmon)
Great day for the Celts - Murray, McDowell and Martin
Always a rossie around.
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There will be no more quest for the next British winner at Wimbledon. That will take away from the BBCs coverage of the event.
Quote from: ross4life on July 07, 2013, 09:34:43 PM
Always a rossie around.
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He looks rather fat?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 07, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 07, 2013, 09:34:43 PM
Always a rossie around.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOksP4_CQAERjVV.jpg:large)
He looks rather fat?
For God's sake Donie's had a hamstring injury all year!
Yahoo has him down for knighted and greatest brit ever, wish he grow a set and say he scottish first and foremost lol
Bu he is Briish
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 07, 2013, 11:32:03 PM
Yahoo has him down for knighted and greatest brit ever, wish he grow a set and say he scottish first and foremost lol
He's never said he's been anything other than Scottish, I'd say after todays final he has a set that are a lot bigger than yours ;)
Hes as british as you O'Neill
Here O'Neill, you can borrow these:
T T T T T T T T TT T T T T T T T T
and these:
t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t
Don't use them all at once.
Yrone haven't a hope of winning Sam.
I need some oo - like race or ranada or rapes or reece or raham Noron.
Quote from: muppet on July 07, 2013, 07:32:46 PM
And England's 77 year wait for a mens Wimbledon Champion..........
.....goes on.
Quality!
Sir Andy Murray (according to David Cameron).
Did anyone see His Royalty come out for the prize giving at the end of the match?
He walked out to a guard of honour formed by the ball boys and ball girls. He walked over to one girl and said "those are impressive breasts for a fifteen year old. Do you exercise?"
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
So out of seven rounds, he met two players he wouldn't have otherwise expected to meet. It's hardly won-the-Euromillions lucky.
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
His easy run is like the easy run Kerry get every year in Munster until the final.
I suppose he can only beat what's in front of him, beat the number one seed in the final, that was the real tester.
Quote from: deiseach on July 08, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
So out of seven rounds, he met two players he wouldn't have otherwise expected to meet. It's hardly won-the-Euromillions lucky.
It's all about the small margins. It could be the difference between a straight sets victory and a longer four or five set match.
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
"you can only dance with the girls that are in the hall"
one does not simply walk into winning wimbledon
Quote from: sans pessimism on July 08, 2013, 08:43:32 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
"you can only dance with the girls that are in the hall"
Stevie Wonder could see it was fixed.
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 07:19:53 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 08, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
So out of seven rounds, he met two players he wouldn't have otherwise expected to meet. It's hardly won-the-Euromillions lucky.
It's all about the small margins. It could be the difference between a straight sets victory and a longer four or five set match.
Who did N Djokovic meet on the way to the final? Hmmmm, as for the girl that won the ladies she by all accounts shouldn't have won the final, Wigan the FA Cup and the list goes on, what a nob-ish view on things, N Djokovic is the best player out there by a wide margin I was surprised that Murray won but on the day N Djokovic had no answer to Murray, he didn't show up to lose but lost in 3 straight sets, but sure its a fix :P
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2013, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 07:19:53 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 08, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
So out of seven rounds, he met two players he wouldn't have otherwise expected to meet. It's hardly won-the-Euromillions lucky.
It's all about the small margins. It could be the difference between a straight sets victory and a longer four or five set match.
Who did N Djokovic meet on the way to the final? Hmmmm, as for the girl that won the ladies she by all accounts shouldn't have won the final, Wigan the FA Cup and the list goes on, what a nob-ish view on things, N Djokovic is the best player out there by a wide margin I was surprised that Murray won but on the day N Djokovic had no answer to Murray, he didn't show up to lose but lost in 3 straight sets, but sure its a fix :P
Djokovic had to play 3 top 20 players on route to the final:
Jeremy Chardy = 28th seed
Tommy Haas = 13th seed
Tomas Berdych = 7th seed
Del Potro = 8th seed
I never said that he shouldn't have won, just that he had a handier run than he would have expected. It's rare not to have to play some highly ranked players on the way. Murray may have beaten Roger, Rafa et al had he played them, but he didn't have to.
Quote from: Estimator on July 09, 2013, 10:45:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2013, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 07:19:53 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 08, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
So out of seven rounds, he met two players he wouldn't have otherwise expected to meet. It's hardly won-the-Euromillions lucky.
It's all about the small margins. It could be the difference between a straight sets victory and a longer four or five set match.
Who did N Djokovic meet on the way to the final? Hmmmm, as for the girl that won the ladies she by all accounts shouldn't have won the final, Wigan the FA Cup and the list goes on, what a nob-ish view on things, N Djokovic is the best player out there by a wide margin I was surprised that Murray won but on the day N Djokovic had no answer to Murray, he didn't show up to lose but lost in 3 straight sets, but sure its a fix :P
Djokovic had to play 3 top 20 players on route to the final:
Jeremy Chardy = 28th seed
Tommy Haas = 13th seed
Tomas Berdych = 7th seed
Del Potro = 8th seed
I never said that he shouldn't have won, just that he had a handier run than he would have expected. It's rare not to have to play some highly ranked players on the way. Murray may have beaten Roger, Rafa et al had he played them, but he didn't have to.
No matter what, he still had to beat the main man, who only dropped one set before the semi. Job done and fair play, he's no rookie he also won the US Open and the Olympics
Quote from: Estimator on July 09, 2013, 10:45:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2013, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 07:19:53 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 08, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
He will probably never get an easier run to a final.
B Becker - Unseeded
Yen-Hsun Lu - Unseeded
T Robredo - 32
M Youzhny - 20
F Verdasco - Unseeded
J Janowicz - 24
N Djokovic - 1
Djokovic is the only player inside the top 20 that he had to play.
So out of seven rounds, he met two players he wouldn't have otherwise expected to meet. It's hardly won-the-Euromillions lucky.
It's all about the small margins. It could be the difference between a straight sets victory and a longer four or five set match.
Who did N Djokovic meet on the way to the final? Hmmmm, as for the girl that won the ladies she by all accounts shouldn't have won the final, Wigan the FA Cup and the list goes on, what a nob-ish view on things, N Djokovic is the best player out there by a wide margin I was surprised that Murray won but on the day N Djokovic had no answer to Murray, he didn't show up to lose but lost in 3 straight sets, but sure its a fix :P
Djokovic had to play 3 top 20 players on route to the final:
Jeremy Chardy = 28th seed
Tommy Haas = 13th seed
Tomas Berdych = 7th seed
Del Potro = 8th seed
I never said that he shouldn't have won, just that he had a handier run than he would have expected. It's rare not to have to play some highly ranked players on the way. Murray may have beaten Roger, Rafa et al had he played them, but he didn't have to.
If all the top seeds were on one side of the draw then you might have had a point, initially it looked like Murray was on the tough side with Nadal and Federer. It's hardly Murrays fault that Nadal got injured and Federer got beat by an outsider who himself got injured in the next round.