Over 400,000 on Live Register
CHARLIE TAYLOR
The number of people signing on the Live Register rose by 13,500 to more than 400,000 last month, accoring to new figures from the Central Statistics Office (CSO).
The standardised unemployment rate in May was 11.8 per cent compared 11.4 per cent in April and 7.7 per cent at the end of December 2008.
At the end of May there were 402,100 people on the register, compared to 388,600 in April. During the month 8,800 men and 4,700 women joined the register.
In the year to May, there was a 96.7 per cent rise in the number of people on the register as 195,115 more people signed on. This compares with an unadjusted increase of 188,850 or 96.6 per cent a year earlier.
The estimated number of casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in May was 35,588 males and 30,590 females.
How are FG responsible for the live register figures when they haven't been in power since 1997 ::)
Quote from: Tubberman on June 05, 2009, 11:31:50 AM
How are FG responsible for the live register figures when they haven't been in power since 1997 ::)
FG are in the pockets of the developers just as much as FF. They encouraged the property bubble, the culture of greed and would have done nothing substantially different from the FF Mafiosi. If FG had been in power we'd probably have 500k signing on now.
QuoteQuote from: Tubberman on Today at 11:31:50 AM
How are FG responsible for the live register figures when they haven't been in power since 1997
FG are in the pockets of the developers just as much as FF. They encouraged the property bubble, the culture of greed and would have done nothing substantially different from the FF Mafiosi. If FG had been in power we'd probably have 500k signing on now.
And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Pure bias and speculation. I'm not saying the country would still be riding high if FG were in power because nobody knows. But to blame them for the current live register figures is just ridiculous
Quote from: Tubberman on June 05, 2009, 12:35:12 PM
QuoteQuote from: Tubberman on Today at 11:31:50 AM
How are FG responsible for the live register figures when they haven't been in power since 1997
FG are in the pockets of the developers just as much as FF. They encouraged the property bubble, the culture of greed and would have done nothing substantially different from the FF Mafiosi. If FG had been in power we'd probably have 500k signing on now.
And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Pure bias and speculation. I'm not saying the country would still be riding high if FG were in power because nobody knows. But to blame them for the current live register figures is just ridiculous
Agreed bit much to being pinning this on FG.
"FF/FG/PD Legacy", eh, Donagh?
Why stop there? Why not blame every other Party except you-know-who.
You never know, it might influence someone who, say, was considering voting in any Election which happened to be coming up somewhere... ;)
And sure if the PDs had their way, those on the dole would only get half what they currently get - in which case there'd be a helluva lot less on the dole. Though I don't think the PDs will be picking up too many votes today ;D
Shudder to think what the numbers would be like if Sinn Fein had been in power for the past 20 years
Off the top of my head I can think of:
Michael Lowry
Joe McHugh
Olwyn Enright
Liam Cosgrave Jnr
All as greedy and corrupt as anything in FF. Both as bad as the other.
What has Olwyn Enright done to be labelled corrupt?
Quote from: stephenite on June 05, 2009, 01:28:54 PM
What has Olwyn Enright done to be labelled corrupt?
Greedy hoor.
http://www.tribune.ie/article/2009/may/10/120k-in-overnight-expenses-for-married-fine-gael-c/ (http://www.tribune.ie/article/2009/may/10/120k-in-overnight-expenses-for-married-fine-gael-c/)
The whole expenses system for TDs is a joke. All expenses are paid out without receipts, dates, anything.
Just stick down a number and it is paid, no questions asked. Ridiculous.
The only reason that Olwyn Enright and Joe McHugh were found out is because they are married. I'd say 95% of TDs are claiming far more than they actually spent on accomodation, fuel etc
Quote from: Donagh on June 05, 2009, 01:33:13 PM
Quote from: stephenite on June 05, 2009, 01:28:54 PM
What has Olwyn Enright done to be labelled corrupt?
Greedy hoor.
http://www.tribune.ie/article/2009/may/10/120k-in-overnight-expenses-for-married-fine-gael-c/ (http://www.tribune.ie/article/2009/may/10/120k-in-overnight-expenses-for-married-fine-gael-c/)
Didn't read that before. Greedy indeed - hardly in the Haughey bracket of corruption though.
Members of the Oireachtas who are creative when filling in expenses' claim are bad enough but what of those who are lucky enough to be teachers?
Yep, they are still regarded as teachers and paid accordingly, even when they are in receipt of Dail salaries.
That means they are given incremental increases based on their years of "service."
Teacher TDs and senators are to be found on the government side and on the opposition benches, including independents.
There are a total of 20 there at present and in the meantime their posts are filled by temps without contract rights.
A senior minister right now is getting paid his ministerial salary plus a minister's pension, which kicks in after three years ministerial service.
If getting a pension while still in the job stinks, this character is also drawing the salary of a senior teacher, less the amount being paid to his substitute.
I estimate the difference to be in the region of €60,000. I may be out a bit but no more than €5,000 either way.
How can someone like this ask the unemployed and OAPs to tighten the belt and "wear the jersey," as he has done?
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 05, 2009, 02:39:13 PM
Members of the Oireachtas who are creative when filling in expenses' claim are bad enough but what of those who are lucky enough to be teachers?
Yep, they are still regarded as teachers and paid accordingly, even when they are in receipt of Dail salaries.
That means they are given incremental increases based on their years of "service."
Teacher TDs and senators are to be found on the government side and on the opposition benches, including independents.
There are a total of 20 there at present and in the meantime their posts are filled by temps without contract rights.
A senior minister right now is getting paid his ministerial salary plus a minister's pension, which kicks in after three years ministerial service.
If getting a pension while still in the job stinks, this character is also drawing the salary of a senior teacher, less the amount being paid to his substitute.
I estimate the difference to be in the region of €60,000. I may be out a bit but no more than €5,000 either way.
How can someone like this ask the unemployed and OAPs to tighten the belt and "wear the jersey," as he has done?
You really have it in for JOM don't you Lar? ;D
If I were a Blueshirt, it would really make me despair if I thought people blamed FG for the current mess.
QuoteIf I were a Blueshirt, it would really make me despair if I thought people blamed FG for the current mess.
There's a sitting FG Councillor in Fingal CC who, to my eyes anyway, makes Ray Burke look like Mother Teresa. This 'behaviour' is by no means confined to FF, and I find it particularly galling that they're all blaming each other, when no-one can claim exclusivity for this practice.
If FG had been in power any time over the last 12 years they would have had Labour as partners who would have kept them from stoking the property bubble the way BuilderFF did.
I used to be a FFr once. :o
But the sight of McCreevy in one of his moronic outbursts telling us " Let's all party haw haw haw. We've earned it Haw haw. There's loads of money in the country etc. The same week a neighbour's child got an appointment for their hearing to be examined in Tallaght hospital 13 months later while a local school was freezing the daylights out of children in the winter there were so many holes in it. That plus their efforts to make sure house prices kept on rising even if was to impoverish 2 generations cured me of those ****s *******s *****s for ever.
While FG are hardly angels, fiscal rectitude is one of their traditional values. In the 1970s they had weather the oil crisis in reasonable shape until FF came in 1977 and created an artificial boom borrowing money which lead to the hard times in the 1980s.
As for corruption, if money is available then you'll always find someone to take it.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2009, 03:05:12 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 05, 2009, 02:39:13 PM
Members of the Oireachtas who are creative when filling in expenses' claim are bad enough but what of those who are lucky enough to be teachers?
Yep, they are still regarded as teachers and paid accordingly, even when they are in receipt of Dail salaries.
That means they are given incremental increases based on their years of "service."
Teacher TDs and senators are to be found on the government side and on the opposition benches, including independents.
There are a total of 20 there at present and in the meantime their posts are filled by temps without contract rights.
A senior minister right now is getting paid his ministerial salary plus a minister's pension, which kicks in after three years ministerial service.
If getting a pension while still in the job stinks, this character is also drawing the salary of a senior teacher, less the amount being paid to his substitute.
I estimate the difference to be in the region of €60,000. I may be out a bit but no more than €5,000 either way.
How can someone like this ask the unemployed and OAPs to tighten the belt and "wear the jersey," as he has done?
You really have it in for JOM don't you Lar? ;D
Honest to Jaysus, he never even crossed my mind!
I admit I had my good friend and former fellow-student, Inda, in mind okay.
I did ask him a few times when we'd be revving up the night before a Connacht final if the price of the last round came from the Dept. of Trade or the Dept. of Education.
For some reason, he never could give me a polite answer to a polite question!
Poor Johnno I imagine is totally out of the loop on this one- he is a retired teacher and not on secondment to the Funny Farm.
Nah, JOM is not the worst around at all. I think most of the lads who natter about Mayo football copped on long ago that I might not be 100% serious when I try to stir things up a bit there—just a tiny bit bored and maybe trying to provoke a response from someone or other, or maybe just from someone. ;D
Quote from: Billys Boots on June 05, 2009, 04:32:26 PM
QuoteIf I were a Blueshirt, it would really make me despair if I thought people blamed FG for the current mess.
There's a sitting FG Councillor in Fingal CC who, to my eyes anyway, makes Ray Burke look like Mother Teresa. This 'behaviour' is by no means confined to FF, and I find it particularly galling that they're all blaming each other, when no-one can claim exclusivity for this practice.
Well, the discerning voters of Fingal have returned this despicable creature again - we deserve everything we get.