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Title: Guitar Help
Post by: Joxer on April 28, 2009, 01:30:30 PM
Bought myself a guitar at the weekend.  How hard is it to pick a few things up by yourself?  or has anyone any tips for me starting off?
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: blewuporstuffed on April 28, 2009, 01:33:48 PM
there is some great stuff on you tube( and some carap aswell!)
lessons and stuff,people showing how to play different songs
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: under the bar on April 28, 2009, 01:51:46 PM
Don't dilute your probable colossal talent by taking silly lessons. 

- Form a band and organise a debut gig
- Over-hype the life out of it maximising social networking and draw a big crowd. 
- Have a  drinks promo and a DJ to whip the crown into a frenzy.   
- Take the stage to "Jesus Christ Superstar" blaring out.
- Turn the volume up to 15 and make their ears bleed with unbearable noise
- Smash your instruments after 20 mins seriously injuring some of those at the front
- Disappear into the night
- Sit back an await a) the police and b) a record deal in that order.
- Milk it for whatever you can get in your allocated 5 mins of fame/infamy

Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: thejuice on April 28, 2009, 02:04:09 PM
What kinda guitar you got?

Here's what I'd recommend.

1. Get a few lessons to get you of the ground.

2. Get a chord book

3. Learn how to read guitar tab and use sites like http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/ for your favourite songs.

4. Be patient, it will take a while but just stick with it.


Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: downgirl on April 28, 2009, 02:11:32 PM
Are you wanting to do a musical number in the scór next year joxer??  I put up links there of the videos I have found so far of the AI by the way!
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: longball on April 28, 2009, 02:16:51 PM
Just a word of advice if u are considering starting a band u have to learn to take the good times with the bad. Let me tell u a little story about what happened me,
Me and some guys from school, we had a Band and we tried real hard
Jimmy quit and Jody got married
I shualda known we'd never get far

Oh when I lock back now that summer seems to last forever
And if I had the choice I'd always wanna be there
Those were the best days of my life
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2009, 02:56:41 PM
Try the free (donations accepted) but excellent Guitarnoise.com (http://www.guitarnoise.com/)

I never bothered with lessons which is probably a mistake but more fun.

Pick a simple song or two that you like and work at it. If you don't like the song you'll get fed up and won't touch the guitar for months so choose well.That site above should have something for you but try ultimate-guitar as mentioned above. Also fro an Irish flavour try http://www.iol.ie/~murphypj/ (http://www.iol.ie/~murphypj/)

I found that there would seem to be no improvement for ages then suddenly a number of breakthroughs would come together followed by another slow period.

After a bit of practise force yourself to play in front of people at a party or whatever. After a couple of dodgy performances then you'll start working hard at it.

Great instrument though and well worth the effort to be able to stand up and do your party piece, even just at a party.

Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: the Deel Rover on April 28, 2009, 02:58:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2009, 02:56:41 PM
Try the free (donations accepted) but excellent Guitarnoise.com (http://www.guitarnoise.com/)

I never bothered with lessons which is probably a mistake but more fun.

Pick a simple song or two that you like and work at it. If you don't like the song you'll get fed up and won't touch the guitar for months so choose well.That site above should have something for you but try ultimate-guitar as mentioned above. Also fro an Irish flavour try http://www.iol.ie/~murphypj/ (http://www.iol.ie/~murphypj/)

I found that there would seem to be no improvement for ages then suddenly a number of breakthroughs would come together followed by another slow period.

After a bit of practise force yourself to play in front of people at a party or whatever. After a couple of dodgy performances then you'll start working hard at it.

Great instrument though and well worth the effort to be able to stand up and do your party piece, even just at a party.



Come on Muppet whats your party Piece ?
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2009, 03:08:43 PM
A few, all a bit rough around the edges but I brazen in out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtA-CVqupuk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtA-CVqupuk&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxpblnsJEWM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxpblnsJEWM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxpblnsJEWM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxpblnsJEWM)

and another one but U2 (Bono  ::)) stuff is hard to sing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqUTnSGzlcc&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqUTnSGzlcc&NR=1)
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: Joxer on April 28, 2009, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: downgirl on April 28, 2009, 02:11:32 PM
Are you wanting to do a musical number in the scór next year joxer??  I put up links there of the videos I have found so far of the AI by the way!

Jesus no lol,  I'd be a brave man attempting that in the next 5 years lol
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: blewuporstuffed on April 28, 2009, 03:33:18 PM
learning how to read tab is a big thing after you master a half dozen basic chords.
it looks daunting at first but really is easy,if you spend the time on it.
there are a few good magazines (total guitar) that explain it very well, but they are expensive and after you've learned to read it most of the stuff is on the net for nothing, like ultimate-guitar.com as mentioned.
some of the brit poppy songs(oasis/travis that sort of thing) arent bad to start with as they are usually made up of a handful of easy chords(and people know the words!!)
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: Puckoon on April 28, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
joxer,
It's gotten so much easier with the resources available in the Internet. They've all been mentioned here.
A good chord book is a great start ( your finger tips are gonna hurt, but you'll get used to that) and you'll be flying.
Good luck with it.

Btw, what kinda guitar did you get?
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: The Gs Man on April 28, 2009, 03:49:30 PM
Quote from: under the bar on April 28, 2009, 01:51:46 PM
Don't dilute your probable colossal talent by taking silly lessons. 

- Form a band and organise a debut gig
- Over-hype the life out of it maximising social networking and draw a big crowd. 
- Have a  drinks promo and a DJ to whip the crown into a frenzy.   
- Take the stage to "Jesus Christ Superstar" blaring out.
- Turn the volume up to 15 and make their ears bleed with unbearable noise
- Smash your instruments after 20 mins seriously injuring some of those at the front
- Disappear into the night
- Sit back an await a) the police and b) a record deal in that order.
- Milk it for whatever you can get in your allocated 5 mins of fame/infamy



Thats like any gig Ive ever played.

Joxer, buy a capo and start with Wonderwall.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: Joxer on April 28, 2009, 03:56:51 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 28, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
joxer,
It's gotten so much easier with the resources available in the Internet. They've all been mentioned here.
A good chord book is a great start ( your finger tips are gonna hurt, but you'll get used to that) and you'll be flying.
Good luck with it.

Btw, what kinda guitar did you get?

Epiphone Accoustic,  Seems pretty decent
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2009, 03:58:18 PM
Quote from: Joxer on April 28, 2009, 03:56:51 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 28, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
joxer,
It's gotten so much easier with the resources available in the Internet. They've all been mentioned here.
A good chord book is a great start ( your finger tips are gonna hurt, but you'll get used to that) and you'll be flying.
Good luck with it.

Btw, what kinda guitar did you get?

Epiphone Accoustic,  Seems pretty decent

Same as myself, hope you do better with it though.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: lurganblue on April 28, 2009, 04:22:40 PM
lads i was bought a guitar last year. i therefore had no choice in what to get. I think its a classical accoustic. not exactly what i wanted but i didnt want to disappoint the person who bought me it.
The guitar is one of those ones that have 3 nylon strings. anyone used this type before?
can i get it re-strung like a normal accoustic one? or should i just get a different one?
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: Puckoon on April 28, 2009, 04:26:56 PM
The fret board is probably wider than a steel strung acoustic, so it may be tougher to play (unless you wanna learn classical techniques).

How much would you pay for a decent martin or takamine back home at the moment?

There's a new crowd in Reno called guitar centre (.com) and their prices are unbelievable.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: peterquaife on April 28, 2009, 05:00:58 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 28, 2009, 04:26:56 PM
The fret board is probably wider than a steel strung acoustic, so it may be tougher to play (unless you wanna learn classical techniques).

How much would you pay for a decent martin or takamine back home at the moment?

There's a new crowd in Reno called guitar centre (.com) and their prices are unbelievable.

we chipped in and got the old man a Martin GT16 Jumbo from music123.com a few years back for $890 inc hard-case, friend brought it home with him. The same axe was £1250 sterling in the local shop....unreal difference.

The wife agreed to buy me the Gibson Kristofferson Ed for my 50th! get in, only 16 years to go
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: thejuice on April 28, 2009, 05:21:35 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 28, 2009, 04:22:40 PM
lads i was bought a guitar last year. i therefore had no choice in what to get. I think its a classical accoustic. not exactly what i wanted but i didnt want to disappoint the person who bought me it.
The guitar is one of those ones that have 3 nylon strings. anyone used this type before?
can i get it re-strung like a normal accoustic one? or should i just get a different one?


I had one of those when I began. you cannot put steel strings on it, the neck would not stand the tension and might break or warp. But you can learn normal guitar songs on it, though as Puck says, as I found out myself the neck is a bit wide for those purposes. But if its a decent one, you could try learning classical and spanish songs on it, something I'd love to be able to play myself.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 28, 2009, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on April 28, 2009, 03:49:30 PM

Joxer, buy a capo and start with Wonderwall.

That was the first song I ever learned to play.  Followed by Green Day 'Good riddance'

Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: Puckoon on April 28, 2009, 08:54:40 PM
Quote from: peterquaife on April 28, 2009, 05:00:58 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 28, 2009, 04:26:56 PM
The fret board is probably wider than a steel strung acoustic, so it may be tougher to play (unless you wanna learn classical techniques).

How much would you pay for a decent martin or takamine back home at the moment?

There's a new crowd in Reno called guitar centre (.com) and their prices are unbelievable.

we chipped in and got the old man a Martin GT16 Jumbo from music123.com a few years back for $890 inc hard-case, friend brought it home with him. The same axe was £1250 sterling in the local shop....unreal difference.

The wife agreed to buy me the Gibson Kristofferson Ed for my 50th! get in, only 16 years to go

Brilliant prices (although better before the pound crumbled). I picked up a martin and a takamine for the price of one back home.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: The Gs Man on April 28, 2009, 10:48:03 PM
I have a 1973 Yamaha FG-180.  Class wee guitar.  Also have an Epiphone Les Paul Casino electric. (Got it for my 21st just before I fell out with Oasis.)  Only starting to play it again now.

Also have a wee banjitar lying about the house.  Banjo body with guitar neck.  Class sounds out of it. 
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: The Gs Man on April 28, 2009, 11:07:31 PM
Never wore a hat in my life!
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2009, 11:08:35 PM
Hardstation's da tried to teach the lad how to play the guitar. He gave up as he thought HS was starting to fret and was highly strung though he struck a chord with the other son who won a plaque for tuning forks.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: Puckoon on April 28, 2009, 11:10:07 PM
Ill tell you what are great guitars, although I could never afford one are the Taylor semi acoustics.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: Treasurer on April 28, 2009, 11:19:13 PM
I went about learning the guitar a few years back but I can't sing a note so it was a bit pointless.  While a handful of chords can sound great with a half decent voice,  I was never going to reach the level of playing good guitar solos!  And I could never tune the thing either. :(
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: ziggysego on April 28, 2009, 11:48:13 PM
Anyone know where you can get small guitars? Even small than half-guitars. Unfortunately even they are too big for me and I've been looking for over ten years for one.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2009, 11:50:13 PM
(http://www.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/u-rock-mp3-player.jpg)

Too small?
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: ziggysego on April 28, 2009, 11:51:26 PM
Not a real guitar though.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: rosnarun on April 29, 2009, 12:36:37 AM
Quote from: Treasurer on April 28, 2009, 11:19:13 PM
I went about learning the guitar a few years back but I can't sing a note so it was a bit pointless.  While a handful of chords can sound great with a half decent voice,  I was never going to reach the level of playing good guitar solos!  And I could never tune the thing either. :(
why not try a bouzouki or ukulele , great for trad music and george formby covers or indeed the king of stringed instruments the banjolele
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjo_ukulele

or if you want to be boring try
http://www.musiccorner.co.uk/index.php?cPath=5_40_500
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: longball on April 29, 2009, 09:13:43 AM
(http://www.bangbangt-shirts.com/Images/AirGuitarthumb1FullSize.jpg)
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: Mid Mon on April 30, 2009, 04:13:54 PM
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Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: thejuice on April 30, 2009, 05:14:13 PM
Well I just want to talk about guitars.

This is one of my guitars, the one I play most,

http://www.accessguitar.com/inventory/jackson/ps4bc.jpg

Here are the others I have

http://www.naptonfestival.co.uk/images/news/prize_draw_guitar.jpg

Have an SX Gibson SG copy that I got for €200, decent quality.

Also have a Yamaha acoustic and bass which i got of a friend for €10.
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: muppet on July 12, 2009, 03:49:41 PM
This site gives free (donations accepted) lessons right from scratch and is very good.

http://www.justinguitar.com/ (http://www.justinguitar.com/)
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: MadMayo on July 12, 2009, 05:42:52 PM
try http://www.chordie.com/
very good for tabs and chords, start off playing an easy tune like wonderwall...
this old geezer is not bad.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvFJPPlL020
or some of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMJsGlVOej8&feature=related
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: muppet on October 29, 2009, 10:51:58 PM
Question for the guitars heroes:

How do you avoid the noise of your fingers squeaking along the strings for example sliding along with power chords?
Title: Re: Guitar Help
Post by: Niall Quinn on August 29, 2010, 02:05:39 PM
A nice song to play:

http://www.azchords.com/y/youngneil-tabs-4803/likeahurricane-tabs-49136.html (http://www.azchords.com/y/youngneil-tabs-4803/likeahurricane-tabs-49136.html)