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Title: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Ok it is chemistry based but it is analytical so I'm hoping someone who is good at maths can help me out...I have a sample answer for it but I don't know where the figures are coming from...

This is the question:
1g of a sample of iron ore was dissolved in H2SO4 in a titration vessel yielding Fe2+. This solution was titrated using 0.1M KMnO4.

The analysis was repeated five times with the following titration volumes:
5.0, 4.8, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3ml.

Calculate the average iron ore content in the ore as a mass percentage.

Aw(Fe) = 55.84 gmol-1


Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

then it has written down
5n (MnO4-) = n Fe2+

Ans x(%)Fe = 2.794 ml V  KMnO4


How do you work out the 2.794 part?????
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: fred the red on April 27, 2009, 05:25:50 PM
ask your lecturer for help!
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: fred the red on April 27, 2009, 05:25:50 PM
ask your lecturer for help!

And stop showing off
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:33:05 PM
He isn't replying to emails and I'm not in Cork!!!!!!!!!!

f**k off illdecide how is it showing off when I can't do the bloody thing
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 05:36:22 PM
will get ya the answer after 6, my wife is not home till then ;)
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: thebigfella on April 27, 2009, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Ok it is chemistry based but it is analytical so I'm hoping someone who is good at maths can help me out...I have a sample answer for it but I don't know where the figures are coming from...

This is the question:
1g of a sample of iron ore was dissolved in H2SO4 in a titration vessel yielding Fe2+. This solution was titrated using 0.1M KMnO4.

The analysis was repeated five times with the following titration volumes:
5.0, 4.8, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3ml.

Calculate the average iron ore content in the ore as a mass percentage.

Aw(Fe) = 55.84 gmol-1


Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

then it has written down
5n (MnO4-) = n Fe2+

Ans x(%)Fe = 2.794 ml V  KMnO4


How do you work out the 2.794 part?????

I generally find a calculator is good at Maths, ask one of those.
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:45:16 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 27, 2009, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Ok it is chemistry based but it is analytical so I'm hoping someone who is good at maths can help me out...I have a sample answer for it but I don't know where the figures are coming from...

This is the question:
1g of a sample of iron ore was dissolved in H2SO4 in a titration vessel yielding Fe2+. This solution was titrated using 0.1M KMnO4.

The analysis was repeated five times with the following titration volumes:
5.0, 4.8, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3ml.

Calculate the average iron ore content in the ore as a mass percentage.

Aw(Fe) = 55.84 gmol-1


Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

then it has written down
5n (MnO4-) = n Fe2+

Ans x(%)Fe = 2.794 ml V  KMnO4


How do you work out the 2.794 part?????

I generally find a calculator is good at Maths, ask one of those.

Oh silly me...

you think I haven't been putting those numbers into the calculator to try and get that number?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: tyrone girl on April 27, 2009, 05:47:22 PM
Sweet feck how the hell wud any of us know that, more to the point why wud any of us want to know the answer to that
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 27, 2009, 06:52:01 PM
Quote from: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Ok it is chemistry based but it is analytical so I'm hoping someone who is good at maths can help me out...I have a sample answer for it but I don't know where the figures are coming from...

This is the question:
1g of a sample of iron ore was dissolved in H2SO4 in a titration vessel yielding Fe2+. This solution was titrated using 0.1M KMnO4.

The analysis was repeated five times with the following titration volumes:
5.0, 4.8, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3ml.

Calculate the average iron ore content in the ore as a mass percentage.

Aw(Fe) = 55.84 gmol-1


Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

then it has written down
5n (MnO4-) = n Fe2+

Ans x(%)Fe = 2.794 ml V  KMnO4


How do you work out the 2.794 part?????
I'm sure someone will take up the challenge but failing that I'll get you an answer tomorrow as I have about 40 analytical chemists at my disposal!
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 07:09:37 PM
Quote from: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Ok it is chemistry based but it is analytical so I'm hoping someone who is good at maths can help me out...I have a sample answer for it but I don't know where the figures are coming from...

This is the question:
1g of a sample of iron ore was dissolved in H2SO4 in a titration vessel yielding Fe2+. This solution was titrated using 0.1M KMnO4.

The analysis was repeated five times with the following titration volumes:
5.0, 4.8, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3ml.

Calculate the average iron ore content in the ore as a mass percentage.

Aw(Fe) = 55.84 gmol-1


Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

then it has written down
5n (MnO4-) = n Fe2+

Ans x(%)Fe = 2.794 ml V  KMnO4


How do you work out the 2.794 part?????

Our calculations show that the bird is greater than or equal to the word.
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 07:36:52 PM
I'm asking for help how is that showing off

if you don't like it then don't look at it
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: tyrone86 on April 27, 2009, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 07:09:37 PM
Our calculations show that the bird is greater than or equal to the word.

:D
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 27, 2009, 07:44:19 PM
Our calculations show that the bird is greater than or equal to the word.
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:D :D :D
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: ONeill on April 27, 2009, 07:52:07 PM
Quote from: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Ok it is chemistry based but it is analytical so I'm hoping someone who is good at maths can help me out...I have a sample answer for it but I don't know where the figures are coming from...

This is the question:
1g of a sample of iron ore was dissolved in H2SO4 in a titration vessel yielding Fe2+. This solution was titrated using 0.1M KMnO4.

The analysis was repeated five times with the following titration volumes:
5.0, 4.8, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3ml.

Calculate the average iron ore content in the ore as a mass percentage.

Aw(Fe) = 55.84 gmol-1


Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

then it has written down
5n (MnO4-) = n Fe2+

Ans x(%)Fe = 2.794 ml V  KMnO4


How do you work out the 2.794 part?????

Fairly straightforward. The low-temperature optical properties of submonolayer CdSe/ZnSe nanostructures have been investigated with nominal layer thickness of 0.15 ML and 0.58 ML CdSe. In photoluminescence excitation spectroscopy (PLE) we observe more than 10 equidistant peaks separated by the ZnSe LO-phonon energy even at energies high above the ZnSe-band edge. The peak heights and line shapes are extremely sensitive to the monolayer coverage, have strongly different intensities in emission and PLE and deviate from the Poissonian intensity distribution expected within the concept of a constant, material specific Huang-Rhys parameter S. A bound polaron model is proposed to explain the optical properties of quantum structures for which the approach of a pure electronic quantum confinement is not appropriate. Intrinsic coherence of joint exciton-phonon modes is very promising, e.g. for application in quantum information processing or coherent population transfer.
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 27, 2009, 08:01:21 PM
He's a teacher so it must be right ;)
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 08:12:52 PM
Where would we be without O'Neill!!  :D
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: DrinkingHarp on April 27, 2009, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Ok it is chemistry based but it is analytical so I'm hoping someone who is good at maths can help me out...I have a sample answer for it but I don't know where the figures are coming from...

This is the question:
1g of a sample of iron ore was dissolved in H2SO4 in a titration vessel yielding Fe2+. This solution was titrated using 0.1M KMnO4.

The analysis was repeated five times with the following titration volumes:
5.0, 4.8, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3ml.

Calculate the average iron ore content in the ore as a mass percentage.

Aw(Fe) = 55.84 gmol-1


Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

then it has written down
5n (MnO4-) = n Fe2+

Ans x(%)Fe = 2.794 ml V  KMnO4


How do you work out the 2.794 part?????

DG,

the 2.794 ml is the volume part of the answer, do you have all the right data?


Try www.mychemistrytutor.com
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: gerrykeegan on April 27, 2009, 08:22:57 PM
Shane there is at least two school boy errors there. I am not going to waste my time pointing them out to you.
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: Puckoon on April 27, 2009, 08:49:16 PM
Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

Where did you get the above information from?
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 08:51:29 PM
Quote from: DrinkingHarp on April 27, 2009, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Ok it is chemistry based but it is analytical so I'm hoping someone who is good at maths can help me out...I have a sample answer for it but I don't know where the figures are coming from...

This is the question:
1g of a sample of iron ore was dissolved in H2SO4 in a titration vessel yielding Fe2+. This solution was titrated using 0.1M KMnO4.

The analysis was repeated five times with the following titration volumes:
5.0, 4.8, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3ml.

Calculate the average iron ore content in the ore as a mass percentage.

Aw(Fe) = 55.84 gmol-1


Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

then it has written down
5n (MnO4-) = n Fe2+

Ans x(%)Fe = 2.794 ml V  KMnO4


How do you work out the 2.794 part?????

DG,

the 2.794 ml is the volume part of the answer, do you have all the right data?


Try www.mychemistrytutor.com



Thanks for the link DH gonna give it a try now...the question is exactly as I have put it up, I don't think I have enough info to answer it as I don't have the molarity of the iron solution...

Tony is hopefully gonna get me sorted out...I could kiss him!!
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: downgirl on April 27, 2009, 08:54:42 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 27, 2009, 08:49:16 PM
Then basically it works out as
MnO4- : Fe2+
1:5

Where did you get the above information from?

equation for the rxn

MnO4-  +  5Fe2+  +  8H+  -->  Mn2+  +  5Fe3+  + 4H20

   1       :     5
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: Minus15 on April 27, 2009, 10:09:43 PM
surely tony wouldn't be that brave
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 10:45:51 PM


f**k off illdecide how is it showing off when I can't do the bloody thing
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No need to be rude now i was only busting your chaps
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: cville on April 27, 2009, 11:15:31 PM
The problem stated is simple and has nothing inherent that can be perceived as difficult. The fact is that H2SO4 is sulphuric acid thus it will react as determined by the equation. However, what should be borne in mind is that anyone who sat on their pc and tried to determine the answer to this really has only two options at stake - Chemistry and Masturbation. So. if you have been engrossed by the equation - you really need to get a girlfriend. To put it in terms of Physics - you have a tendency to indulge in rapid friction accumulation that will result in an emission over the digits! Horses for Courses! :P
Title: Re: Anybody good at maths??
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2009, 12:46:49 AM
Quote from: cville on April 27, 2009, 11:15:31 PM
The problem stated is simple and has nothing inherent that can be perceived as difficult. The fact is that H2SO4 is sulphuric acid thus it will react as determined by the equation. However, what should be borne in mind is that anyone who sat on their pc and tried to determine the answer to this really has only two options at stake - Chemistry and Masturbation. So. if you have been engrossed by the equation - you really need to get a girlfriend. To put it in terms of Physics - you have a tendency to indulge in rapid friction accumulation that will result in an emission over the digits! Horses for Courses! :P

Wonderful analytical powers there cville. Did you notice the 'girl' part of the name Downgirl?