ok,you are not fond of the international rules
you think that video evidence is only used to punish tyrone
your now angry that the ulster game against armagh is now in clones and not croke park
now you back a book that tells married couples not to use safe sex
everyone heard you the first time
please just shut up!!!!!!!!!
Did he do something on you at an early age or are you just from Armagh?
You seem to have issues! ;)
Do you not think he has a point here? Not the poster , Mickey Harte.
Keep 'er lit Mickey!
Keep her shut more like it.
I am getting tired of listening to him too.
Hopefully Mayo will quieten him on Sunday! :D
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 09, 2009, 09:46:13 PM
Hopefully Mayo will quieten him on Sunday! :D
Aye, I'm sick of hearing him too. Damned Aireagal Chiaráin!
The man's a legend ...................... in his own mind!
he has another job in his sights..........
(http://i41.tinypic.com/29fcklv.jpg)
That's sooooo last week ArmaghGAAforum ;)
He is getting tiresome at this point though. Likes the sound of his own voice.
For some reason people think managers/players in the gaa shouldn't be entitled to opinions. Mickey Harte writes a newspaper column and as the current manager of the All Ireland champions is regularly asked questions by the media. Of course his views are going to be made public. As the Tyrone manager of course he was going to want the Tyrone Armagh game in the venue Tyrone play there best football in. He put the interests of the team he manages first. Of course he is going to highlight when his players are treated differently to all other players in the country as was also acknowledged by Paddy Heaney today. Unless someone is giving a view that is in line with other people's views then they are criticised for having an opinion which is wrong.
Harte writes a very bland column with nothing new offered, regurgitation of his views seems to be the order of the day. He hasn't offered an insight in to being an All-Ireland winning manager which many of us were hoping he would... maybe he's keeping that sort of information for his book
Talking about books I see he helped one of his holy-joe friends launch his new book. MH must be closer to God than many people will ever get (no Peter Canavan jokes please). I am sick at looking at the man, if he would even tidy himself up a bit.
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on April 10, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
Harte writes a very bland column with nothing new offered, regurgitation of his views seems to be the order of the day. He hasn't offered an insight in to being an All-Ireland winning manager which many of us were hoping he would... maybe he's keeping that sort of information for his book
Mickey Harte never claimed he was going to offer such an insight and to expect a current manager to be writing about that sort of stuff in a weekly column was naive on your part.
Quote from: SidelineKick on April 10, 2009, 08:28:45 AM
Talking about books I see he helped one of his holy-joe friends launch his new book. MH must be closer to God than many people will ever get (no Peter Canavan jokes please). I am sick at looking at the man, if he would even tidy himself up a bit.
Didn't they say the very same about Jesus?
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on April 10, 2009, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on April 10, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
Harte writes a very bland column with nothing new offered, regurgitation of his views seems to be the order of the day. He hasn't offered an insight in to being an All-Ireland winning manager which many of us were hoping he would... maybe he's keeping that sort of information for his book
Mickey Harte never claimed he was going to offer such an insight and to expect a current manager to be writing about that sort of stuff in a weekly column was naive on your part.
Anything you don't defend him on? The man's a great manager but I'd have to question him about certain things he says.
Quote from: SidelineKick on April 10, 2009, 08:28:45 AM
Talking about books I see he helped one of his holy-joe friends launch his new book.
In fairness, that lad who's launched that book seems to be a grade 1 nutter.
Quote from: tyssam5 on April 10, 2009, 09:36:30 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on April 10, 2009, 08:28:45 AM
Talking about books I see he helped one of his holy-joe friends launch his new book. MH must be closer to God than many people will ever get (no Peter Canavan jokes please). I am sick at looking at the man, if he would even tidy himself up a bit.
Didn't they say the very same about Jesus?
Ah for fuxksake, give us a break.
Mickey is definitely suffering from over exposure. I have been a big admirer of Mickey over the past number of years - there's no doubting his success with Tyrone. But this past few months he's becoming unbearable.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on April 10, 2009, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on April 10, 2009, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on April 10, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
Harte writes a very bland column with nothing new offered, regurgitation of his views seems to be the order of the day. He hasn't offered an insight in to being an All-Ireland winning manager which many of us were hoping he would... maybe he's keeping that sort of information for his book
Mickey Harte never claimed he was going to offer such an insight and to expect a current manager to be writing about that sort of stuff in a weekly column was naive on your part.
Anything you don't defend him on? The man's a great manager but I'd have to question him about certain things he says.
What exactly has he said that has upset you? The man is entitled to his opinions just like everyone on here. People might not always agree with his opinion but that doesnt mean he isnt entitled to it. I havent saw anything he has said that could upset anyone. The only problem is that when he says something 3 or 4 media outlets run with it over a few days which makes it seem like he has said it on numerous occasions. He feels strongly about the international rules for example as he obviously see's it as a threat to the game he loves, I'm not sure how that could cause offence to any gaa supporter.
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 10, 2009, 11:41:33 PM
Mickey is definitely suffering from over exposure.
Haven't seen signs of Mickey suffering from anything.
Perhaps you mean you are suffering....??
Like any good high profile manager (amateur or professional), he will use his position to try and gain the maximum advantage for his team by using the press. Ger Loughnanne was the master from a Gaelic Games perspective, Billy Morgan was hilariously inept.
There is a fine line however between using it successfully and making a balls of it, but he seems to be sticking to the tried and tested script - creating a seige mentality for his squad by making them believe that everyone is out to get them blah blah etc. etc. It's been going on since reporters started writing about sport
'Tis all fairly standard stuff and not worth getting upset about in fairness.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on April 11, 2009, 12:30:40 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on April 10, 2009, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on April 10, 2009, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on April 10, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
Harte writes a very bland column with nothing new offered, regurgitation of his views seems to be the order of the day. He hasn't offered an insight in to being an All-Ireland winning manager which many of us were hoping he would... maybe he's keeping that sort of information for his book
Mickey Harte never claimed he was going to offer such an insight and to expect a current manager to be writing about that sort of stuff in a weekly column was naive on your part.
Anything you don't defend him on? The man's a great manager but I'd have to question him about certain things he says.
What exactly has he said that has upset you? The man is entitled to his opinions just like everyone on here. People might not always agree with his opinion but that doesnt mean he isnt entitled to it. I havent saw anything he has said that could upset anyone. The only problem is that when he says something 3 or 4 media outlets run with it over a few days which makes it seem like he has said it on numerous occasions. He feels strongly about the international rules for example as he obviously see's it as a threat to the game he loves, I'm not sure how that could cause offence to any gaa supporter.
Where have I said he is not entitled to an opinion?
You say Mickey is entitled to his opinion, which is fair enough. But then you act the hypocrite when people have the temerity to disagree with what he says.
For the record I don't agree with him on a lot of the disicpline and anti-Tyrone issues he's bringing up lately but we've been through that on the Tommy McGuigan thread. Sure a manager will defend his team from time to time. Doesn't mean right minded GAA followers have to agree agree with it, in the same way as I wouldn't agree with John O'Mahony if he defended the indefencible (sp).
Also the column is crap. Wasn't expecting much more but I'm entitled to say its crap if we live in a freedom of speech society that you keep harping on about.
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2009, 01:09:48 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 10, 2009, 11:41:33 PM
Mickey is definitely suffering from over exposure.
Haven't seen signs of Mickey suffering from anything.
Perhaps you mean you are suffering....??
His reputation is suffering. You might not see that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHN16DCAy1E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHN16DCAy1E)
A more pertinent question: will Ziggysego ever keep quiet?
Harte was spreading his version of the gospel in the Irish News on Friday about removing cynical and deliberately dirty play from football..... this from the man who appoints McMeneamin as his captain!!!!!!
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 11, 2009, 02:35:00 PM
A more pertinent question: will Ziggysego ever keep quiet?
Watch yourself!
(http://www.greencastlegaa.com/TheJenThread/maydaywalk/IMG_0896.jpg)
My problem with Harte is that he is more than happy to slabber about things if he doesn't get his way or if he feels victimised etc, but he isn't too forthright with his views on the behaviour or lack of of his pklayers, thats what people want him to explain. Maybe he has a game, whoever grabs the most balls is captain, oh Tommy Mc Guigan might be skipper when he returns from his ban.
Quote from: ziggysego on April 11, 2009, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 11, 2009, 02:35:00 PM
A more pertinent question: will Ziggysego ever keep quiet?
Watch yourself!
(http://www.greencastlegaa.com/TheJenThread/maydaywalk/IMG_0896.jpg)
I find that very upsetting Ziggy. That's our Barry. "Sadness is very close to hate," Gustave Flaubert :'(
He has been around nationally since 2003 and this is 7th season, so he pops up more often than most.
Quote from: Oakleafer93 on April 11, 2009, 06:05:57 PM
My problem with Harte is that he is more than happy to slabber about things if he doesn't get his way or if he feels victimised etc, but he isn't too forthright with his views on the behaviour or lack of of his pklayers, thats what people want him to explain. Maybe he has a game, whoever grabs the most balls is captain, oh Tommy Mc Guigan might be skipper when he returns from his ban.
Yeah like Cassidy will come out and criticise his players if they dive for example. I've seen plenty of gaa managers complain in the past about things but I have never heard of any come out and criticise their own players.
Do i get the feeling Armagh & Derry posters are somewhat sickened by Mickey Harte? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
I think everyone is bar Tyrone people ::)
Quote from: Katchit on April 11, 2009, 08:15:08 PM
I think everyone is bar Tyrone people ::)
To be honest, i've been thinking lately that MH and Sean Cavanagh are in the papers and on tv too much.
I don't put them down for it - they are the best at what they do so people will want to ask their opinions
Just has gone a bit overkill this past while IMHO
I put it down to lazy journalism on a quiet sports day they can call Harte or Cavanagh and get a quote, they have too much manners to tell them to f**k off
Quote from: tyronefan on April 11, 2009, 09:15:08 PM
I put it down to lazy journalism on a quiet sports day they can call Harte or Cavanagh and get a quote, they have too much manners to tell them to f**k off
probably true enough
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 11, 2009, 11:25:56 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2009, 01:09:48 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 10, 2009, 11:41:33 PM
Mickey is definitely suffering from over exposure.
Haven't seen signs of Mickey suffering from anything.
Perhaps you mean you are suffering....??
His reputation is suffering. You might not see that.
His reputation as a what?
I agree that it is quite sickening seeing him in the paper every day, however a large part of it has to be down to who he is, if the man keeps gettin interviewed hes going to keep cropping up.
I'm also sick of reading his views about the international rules, partly because i don't agree with him and partly because hes never done talking about it!
His constant views on things GAA and sometimes non-GAA can get tedious but is a small price to pay for the success of since 2003.
Quote from: tyrone exile on April 11, 2009, 11:20:03 PM
I agree that it is quite sickening seeing him in the paper every day, however a large part of it has to be down to who he is, if the man keeps gettin interviewed hes going to keep cropping up.
I'm also sick of reading his views about the international rules, partly because i don't agree with him and partly because hes never done talking about it!
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 11, 2009, 11:23:35 PM
His constant views on things GAA and sometimes non-GAA can get tedious but is a small price to pay for the success of since 2003.
Thank you! My thoughts exactly.
:D You're welcome. Wouldn't you just love to swap and have a manager that could deliver three All Irelands regardless of whether he talked to the papers a lot or kept his views to himself.
There's only one answer to that . . .
Beir bua Mickey.
Just do what I do when Kerry Katona, Ronan Keating, Bongo, The Corrs, anyone from EastEnders, Noel Thompson, Gay Byrne, Dervla Kirwan, Emma-Louise Johnston and Denise Watson appear on my TV or in my paper ... turn over or turn the page ... or are youse buskfast merchants and inbreds too stupid to work a remote control??? ;)
Contrast him with Brian Cody..... a man imo worth listening to.
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2009, 11:04:53 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 11, 2009, 11:25:56 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2009, 01:09:48 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 10, 2009, 11:41:33 PM
Mickey is definitely suffering from over exposure.
Haven't seen signs of Mickey suffering from anything.
Perhaps you mean you are suffering....??
His reputation is suffering. You might not see that.
His reputation as a what?
His reputation as a brilliant manager is staring to be overshadowed by his constant moaning.
Really?
I judge a manager on his managerial capabilities. I judge a player on what he does on a field.
If Mickey Harte admitted he was a cannibal, it would not affect his reputation as a manager one iota. I'm surprised you buy into that redtop mindset.
Which one?
Quote from: ONeill on April 12, 2009, 10:47:23 PM
Really?
I judge a manager on his managerial capabilities. I judge a player on what he does on a field.
If Mickey Harte admitted he was a cannibal, it would not affect his reputation as a manager one iota. I'm surprised you buy into that redtop mindset.
Redtop mindset? How so?
All i'm saying is that we all seem to be talking about Mickey in relation to his seemingly constant moaning rather than his 'day job'. This is overshadowing his considerable managerial capabilities.
how is him giving interviews in the press undermining all that he has achieved as a manager no matter how often he gives them
It is incredible how people write something and another person reads it as something else. I read that Maguire01 said 'it is overshadowing his managerial capabilities' and tyronefan reads that he said it 'undermines all that he has achieved as a manager.' There is quite a difference. For what it is worth when Mickey is long retired he will be remembered for what Tyrone achieved when he was manager not his views on the rules, compromise series, using Croke park, contraceptives, God...
overshadowed or undermining, as long as he keeps winning AI's he can talk all he wants
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 13, 2009, 01:12:29 AM
It is incredible how people write something and another person reads it as something else. I read that Maguire01 said 'it is overshadowing his managerial capabilities' and tyronefan reads that he said it 'undermines all that he has achieved as a manager.' There is quite a difference. For what it is worth when Mickey is long retired he will be remembered for what Tyrone achieved when he was manager not his views on the rules, compromise series, using Croke park, contraceptives, God...
His views on contraceptives could hardly be regarded as controversial considering he is a practising catholic.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 13, 2009, 01:12:29 AM
It is incredible how people write something and another person reads it as something else. I read that Maguire01 said 'it is overshadowing his managerial capabilities' and tyronefan reads that he said it 'undermines all that he has achieved as a manager.' There is quite a difference.
That's exactly what i'm saying.
To take it to an extreme, for illustrative purposes only of course, if someone was a great footballer/hurler, but committed an act of mass murder, it wouldn't
undermine their playing ability, but would most likely
overshadow it.
Quote from: tyrone exile on April 13, 2009, 01:23:19 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 13, 2009, 01:12:29 AM
It is incredible how people write something and another person reads it as something else. I read that Maguire01 said 'it is overshadowing his managerial capabilities' and tyronefan reads that he said it 'undermines all that he has achieved as a manager.' There is quite a difference. For what it is worth when Mickey is long retired he will be remembered for what Tyrone achieved when he was manager not his views on the rules, compromise series, using Croke park, contraceptives, God...
His views on contraceptives could hardly be regarded as controversial considering he is a practising catholic.
Who said they were controversial?
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 13, 2009, 01:40:13 AM
Quote from: tyrone exile on April 13, 2009, 01:23:19 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 13, 2009, 01:12:29 AM
It is incredible how people write something and another person reads it as something else. I read that Maguire01 said 'it is overshadowing his managerial capabilities' and tyronefan reads that he said it 'undermines all that he has achieved as a manager.' There is quite a difference. For what it is worth when Mickey is long retired he will be remembered for what Tyrone achieved when he was manager not his views on the rules, compromise series, using Croke park, contraceptives, God...
His views on contraceptives could hardly be regarded as controversial considering he is a practising catholic.
Who said they were controversial?
I cant imagine them being remembered if there not controversial.
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 13, 2009, 01:25:19 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 13, 2009, 01:12:29 AM
It is incredible how people write something and another person reads it as something else. I read that Maguire01 said 'it is overshadowing his managerial capabilities' and tyronefan reads that he said it 'undermines all that he has achieved as a manager.' There is quite a difference.
That's exactly what i'm saying.
To take it to an extreme, for illustrative purposes only of course, if someone was a great footballer/hurler, but committed an act of mass murder, it wouldn't undermine their playing ability, but would most likely overshadow it.
I stand corrected
Quote from: tyrone exile on April 13, 2009, 01:43:04 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 13, 2009, 01:40:13 AM
Quote from: tyrone exile on April 13, 2009, 01:23:19 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 13, 2009, 01:12:29 AM
It is incredible how people write something and another person reads it as something else. I read that Maguire01 said 'it is overshadowing his managerial capabilities' and tyronefan reads that he said it 'undermines all that he has achieved as a manager.' There is quite a difference. For what it is worth when Mickey is long retired he will be remembered for what Tyrone achieved when he was manager not his views on the rules, compromise series, using Croke park, contraceptives, God...
His views on contraceptives could hardly be regarded as controversial considering he is a practising catholic.
Who said they were controversial?
I cant imagine them being remembered if there not controversial.
:D That's what I said! 'he will be remembered for what he achieved as a manager not his views... Jees! I'm away to bed...
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 13, 2009, 12:53:39 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 12, 2009, 10:47:23 PM
Really?
I judge a manager on his managerial capabilities. I judge a player on what he does on a field.
If Mickey Harte admitted he was a cannibal, it would not affect his reputation as a manager one iota. I'm surprised you buy into that redtop mindset.
Redtop mindset? How so?
All i'm saying is that we all seem to be talking about Mickey in relation to his seemingly constant moaning rather than his 'day job'. This is overshadowing his considerable managerial capabilities.
Mmm, I then suggest you move in different circles if all you're doing is talking about Mickey Harte's views. Mickey Harte writes a column for the Irish News. He is interviewed regularly by the nation's media. If you cannot stomach that, write a few letters in to the papers saying you cannot listen to him any more as it's overshadowing his managerial achievements.
Sweet Jaysus.
Quote from: ONeill on April 13, 2009, 07:59:38 AM
Mmm, I then suggest you move in different circles if all you're doing is talking about Mickey Harte's views.
I'm talking about
on this board. I rarely feel the need to spend too much of my time talking about Mickey Harte's views in the 'real world'.
Quote from: ONeill on April 13, 2009, 07:59:38 AM
Mickey Harte writes a column for the Irish News. He is interviewed regularly by the nation's media. If you cannot stomach that, write a few letters in to the papers saying you cannot listen to him any more as it's overshadowing his managerial achievements.
Yes, and add to the coverage.
Again, in the grand scheme of things, it isn't that big of a concern.