If you had 2 choices for a full forward line, who would you take...........either
Gooch, Donaghy and Tommy walsh or................. S O"Neill , Cavanagh and Mugsy
come on now ,,,dont be shy :)
the tyrone three, no question
Gooch is class, donaghy hasn't been at his best recently, walsh still has more to learn. Whereas you have two of the best in o'neill & cavanagh, not to mention mugsy who is good for a crucial goal now and again
I don't like to gloat.
Will Mulligan even be starting for Tyrone this season?
Quote from: Minder on February 06, 2009, 10:09:30 PM
Will Mulligan even be starting for Tyrone this season?
He's in the best shape he's been in for some (considerable) time this year, at this particular time of year. I'd say yes.
Assuming all player at their best and good ball going in I think I'd prefer the Kerry boys. I don't think there is anyone better under the high ball than Donaghy and no one better than gooch on form.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2009, 10:11:54 PM
Assuming all player at their best and good ball going in I think I'd prefer the Kerry boys.
Lose much in last year's final? ;)
The question was which FF line was best. I think there were 12 other players on each team in the final that would have had a bearing on the result
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2009, 10:25:06 PM
The question was which FF line was best. I think there were 12 other players on each team in the final that would have had a bearing on the result
The question was which FF line would you prefer - there were no prefixes such as on the basis of last years all ireland final - who would you prefer.
Both forward lines have 2 players of the year. Hard to call - but i know which one I prefer to watch - and which one I ultimately think is better - when firing on all cylinders.
I think Gooch is a smashin player - however, I dont think he can do the things that O'Neill and Cavanagh can do - in the clutch. I suppose Gooch rarely ever finds himself or his team up against it such is the Kerry machine.
I think the Tyrone FF line notch it for me on the basis of
Style
Strength
Ball winning
Finishing
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2009, 10:25:06 PM
The question was which FF line was best. I think there were 12 other players on each team in the final that would have had a bearing on the result
Not my question, did ya?
Eoin Kelly (tipp) Shefflin and Brennan
now that is a fullforward line
Gooch and O'Neill similar for class and natural free-taking, Mugsy and Walsh on a par for a direct run at goal, but Cavanagh shades it over Donaghy for crucial points off both feet. Close call.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 06, 2009, 10:29:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2009, 10:25:06 PM
The question was which FF line was best. I think there were 12 other players on each team in the final that would have had a bearing on the result
Not my question, did ya?
No - I did not lose any money on last years final. I was cheering for Tyrone too if it makes you feel better.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2009, 10:49:36 PM
No - I did not lose any money on last years final. I was cheering for Tyrone too if it makes you feel better.
Neither better nor worse, just an innocent question, and another: should not a deprived full-forward line be better able to forage and make their own ball, than Kerry's trio were?
To a degree they should but if you have two teams with two strong fullward lines. If team A wins twice as much ball in the middle as team B then it is doubtful team B's FF line would be able to "forage" enough to compensate.
I'd take whichever forward line had amassed the most All-Ireland medals up to this point. What is the medal count for each choice?
Kerry's has 5 (assuming Donaghy wasn't around in 2004)
Tyrone's has 7 (You can argue as to whether 2008 should count for Mulligan and O'Neill - I haven't included them).
Cooper and Donaghy Vs O'Neill and Cavanagh is near enough level with possibly the Tyrone duo shading it, assuming O'Neill is as likely to retain his 2005 form in the championship as he appears to be. Then you have what appears to be the massive potential of Walsh against a Mulligan who was overhyped at his peak and now seems well past his best. Kerry just about the stronger I think.
Hardstation the initial question didn't require me to give a reason for the choice. ;D