Up to 100 dead, Hostages taken, targetting westerners.
Army Getting ready to storm more hotels
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm)
http://news.google.co.uk/news?q=mumbai (http://news.google.co.uk/news?q=mumbai)
Head of anti terror squad killed as well
QuoteArmy storms Mumbai hotels
Posted November 27, 2008 08:29:00
A policeman stands guard after shootings at a railway station in Mumbai
Attacks: A policeman stands guard after the attack at Mumbai's main railway station (Reuters)
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* Related Story: Dozens dead, reports of hostages as terrorists target Mumbai
Indian troops have stormed Mumbai's luxury Oberoi and Taj Mahal Palace hotels after reports that terrorist attackers had taken tourists hostage.
At least 78 people have been killed and more than 200 injured in a series of coordinated terrorist attacks across India's
Just watching this on the news now. Looks like a bloody nightmare and it looks like the Taj Palace is on fire now. It appears the terrorists were singling out those with British and US passports.
Joe Biden called that one right.
Get used to it....The West have lost their balls and them scum bags know it :'(
Scary stuff. Have stayed in both of those hotels over the last few years wile in Mumbai with work. Can't even imagine what it would be like to be caught up in it.
Can't believe this isn't at least a 5 pager by now.
Scary stuff. Army are now securing one of the hotels floor by floor. Shootings and explosions flat-out.
What are the demands/motives of the attackers?
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 27, 2008, 12:58:11 AM
Joe Biden called that one right.
Get used to it....The West have lost their balls and them scum bags know it :'(
this is probably a Pakistani Military Intellegence backed group causing mayhem over Kashmir. What exactly has the west got to do with it
Couldn't they just have played a game of cricket for the area in question?
Oh... i suppose it wouldn't really be cricket.
Quote from: Orior on November 27, 2008, 12:39:26 PM
Couldn't they just have played a game of cricket for the area in question?
Oh... i suppose it wouldn't really be cricket.
hundreds dead and thats your contribution? ???
Harrowing, have been following it from last night, lots of explosions at present.
Quote from: dublinfella on November 27, 2008, 12:22:22 PM
this is probably a Pakistani Military Intellegence backed group causing mayhem over Kashmir. What exactly has the west got to do with it
Thats what I initially presumed, but reports say they were trying to single out people with British and American passports, so that would probably rule out the pakistani military being indirectly involved.
The Irish Times are reporting that India's secuity will prob investigate possible links to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh due to past (alleged) involvment.
One of the terorists phoned a tv station and revealed it was to do with Kashmir.
Quote from: his holiness nb on November 27, 2008, 01:28:32 PM
Thats what I initially presumed, but reports say they were trying to single out people with British and American passports, so that would probably rule out the pakistani military being indirectly involved.
Indian PM has come out and all but blamed Pakistan
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1127/india.html
Quote from: dublinfella on November 27, 2008, 01:41:54 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on November 27, 2008, 01:28:32 PM
Thats what I initially presumed, but reports say they were trying to single out people with British and American passports, so that would probably rule out the pakistani military being indirectly involved.
Indian PM has come out and all but blamed Pakistan
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1127/india.html
No shock there - they've blamed them for pretty much all the terrorist attacks over the past few years. Sure it's not too long ago the eejits were on the verge of nuclear war over Kashmir. That would have solved the problem!
Surely we shouldn't be speculating until we know the full facts of what happened? ::)
Quote from: dublinfella on November 27, 2008, 01:41:54 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1127/india.html
They don't point out Pakistan in that report?
Apparently they are demanding the release of militants being held by India. This could explain why they want Brit and Amreicans as their lives are usually worth more.
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 27, 2008, 12:58:11 AM
Joe Biden called that one right.
Get used to it....The West have lost their balls and them scum bags know it :'(
I nominate this as post of the week!
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 27, 2008, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 27, 2008, 12:58:11 AM
Joe Biden called that one right.
Get used to it....The West have lost their balls and them scum bags know it :'(
I nominate this as post of the week!
Surely Seanie you can find and state some morsel of disdain for this atrocious act without the typical
resorting to the point scoring game with me.... sad really that this would be the first thing that springs to your mind :'(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7754931.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7754931.stm)
Quote
'Britons' role' in attacks probed
Militants attacked the Indian city on Wednesday
UK officials have confirmed they are investigating reports of Britons being among those who carried out the attacks in Mumbai.
It follows a report on Indian news channel NDTV that there were British citizens among the militants.
British security sources have told the BBC they are asking their Indian counterparts for information.
But Foreign Secretary David Miliband said it was "too early to say" whether any of those involved were British.
'Debriefed and questioned'
According to UK officials, no hard evidence of British nationals being among the attackers had yet been provided by Indian authorities, BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera said.
Mr Miliband said Britain would want to "follow up" the questioning of one suspected militant who had been seized by Indian officials.
"Obviously the Indian authorities are focusing on ending the incident before they are focusing on where it came from," he added.
"It's too early to say where the people came from."
One British national, Andreas Liveras, died and at least seven Britons were hurt in the attacks on the Indian city, which left at least 130 people dead.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said it was too soon to say whether Britons were involved, and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said British authorities had "no knowledge" of any home-grown links.
The situation there seems totally chaotic 48 hours after the first attacks. How the hell have they not flushed out the terrorists in the taj?
Does no one think it Bizarre that these terroists are prepared to kill hundreds of innocent people and sacrifice their own lives, without making clear to the watching world why they are doing it. Whats the bloody point
Quote from: Pangurban on November 28, 2008, 10:39:05 PM
Does no one think it Bizarre that these terroists are prepared to kill hundreds of innocent people and sacrifice their own lives, without making clear to the watching world why they are doing it. Whats the bloody point
Heard one of them on the telly yesterday when he phoned into a TV station. Was going on about some massacre in some place I've never heard off. Was questioning why they were being called terrorists but not the purportrators of the massacre. Said he would rather live like a lion for a day than suffer and be burned to death like the others. The clip is on Youtube.
QuoteWhats the bloody point
The point is wreck India's tourist industry and stir up trouble between Muslims and Hindus. Mumbai is the kind of go ahead place where everyone lives together that these people oppose.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 28, 2008, 10:50:13 PM
QuoteWhats the bloody point
The point is wreck India's tourist industry and stir up trouble between Muslims and Hindus. Mumbai is the kind of go ahead place where everyone lives together that these people oppose.
So why attack the Jews and not some Hindu shrine?
QuoteSo why attack the Jews and not some Hindu shrine?
Do you not think a Jewish center thrown into the mix amongst others in a widespread,
strategically planned attack such as this would be a legitimate target for these Throw backs?
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 28, 2008, 11:10:58 PM
Do you not think a Jewish center thrown into the mix amongst others in a widespread,
strategically planned attack such as this would be a legitimate target for these Throw backs?
I've no idea. The only thing I know is this was not amateur night involving a few headcases with bombs strapped to them. The bloke I heard speaking seemed lucid enough to indicate they weren't mindless fanatics but had objectives and were obviously very highly trained. I can't say I know much about the region but it seems like similar tactics the Hindus have used in the past e.g the Tamil Tigers and the train burnings a few years back which almost sparked a civil war.
Quote from: Donagh on November 28, 2008, 11:34:12 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 28, 2008, 11:10:58 PM
Do you not think a Jewish center thrown into the mix amongst others in a widespread,
strategically planned attack such as this would be a legitimate target for these Throw backs?
I've no idea. The only thing I know is this was not amateur night involving a few headcases with bombs strapped to them. The bloke I heard speaking seemed lucid enough to indicate they weren't mindless fanatics but had objectives and were obviously very highly trained. I can't say I know much about the region but it seems like similar tactics the Hindus have used in the past e.g the Tamil Tigers and the train burnings a few years back which almost sparked a civil war.
Haven't got time right now to explain but I will when I get a chance. Muslim fundies are the ones behind it, the grouping who has claimed responsibility... let's just say that they were nothing but a badge of convenience for others.
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 27, 2008, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 27, 2008, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 27, 2008, 12:58:11 AM
Joe Biden called that one right.
Get used to it....The West have lost their balls and them scum bags know it :'(
I nominate this as post of the week!
Surely Seanie you can find and state some morsel of disdain for this atrocious act without the typical
resorting to the point scoring game with me.... sad really that this would be the first thing that springs to your mind :'(
Tyrone's Own, if there is violence at an Old Firm game or between different version of the Othodox churches you cannot blame the Democrat president elect. The sub-continent's problems go back way beyond the history of the GOP-Pinko embarassment.
Neither can you suggest that some weakness of Obama's will be to blame as this infers: "Get used to it".
But this comment is the hypocritical comment of the year:
QuoteSurely Seanie you can find and state some morsel of disdain for this atrocious act without the typical
resorting to the point scoring game
QuoteTyrone's Own, if there is violence at an Old Firm game or between different version of the Othodox churches you cannot blame the Democrat president elect.
Where exactly did I blame Obama?
With regards to Hypocrisy, It comes as no surprise that the same boys that wait on my every post are the very same
loud mouths that can hardly contain themselves when innocent people get caught up in a raid in Iraq or the like,
This thread would have been on page 15 by now had that been the case ::)
Should I ask you the same question..Have you nothing at all to say about these attacks or would you simply rather argue with me?
I dont need to say the attacks were an atrocity, any sane person would think so.
I would manage to do so without trying to score points for my political bias though.
QuoteI would manage to do so without trying to score points for my political bias though.
I wouldn't know as you're pretty selective in your condemnations and the fact that as usual, the constant coming after me
with my every post rather than the point I'm making doesn't exactly do your argument any favors either...
Oh and you didn't say where I'd blamed Obama so I'll take it you just made a mistake!
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 30, 2008, 07:57:12 PM
QuoteI would manage to do so without trying to score points for my political bias though.
I wouldn't know as you're pretty selective in your condemnations and the fact that as usual, the constant coming after me
with my every post rather than the point I'm making doesn't exactly do your argument any favors either...
Oh and you didn't say where I'd blamed Obama so I'll take it you just made a mistake!
Your point was to quote Joe Biden, Obama's VP.
Then you announced the west had lost its balls.
Given that this attack is an India-Pakistan thing the only logical pointer to the west was Biden.
Then you said 'get used to it'. That was a prediction. Given your history it is reasonable to assume you were predicting that now a Democrat is in the White House we should get used to terrorist attacks.
Obama won. Get over it.
QuoteYour point was to quote Joe Biden, Obama's VP.
Yes and again, how does that imply that Obama was responsible for said atrocity?
QuoteThen you announced the west had lost its balls.
Exactly, but we'll have to go back along way before Obama came along to when political correctness
and appeasement got it's foot in the door.... again taken out of context to suit a haters ;) point of view.
QuoteGiven that this attack is an India-Pakistan thing the only logical pointer to the west was Biden.
Again.. wrong! So you honestly believe that Pakistan is solely behind this and attacks like it?
QuoteGiven your history it is reasonable to assume
It is def reasonable to assume that you make too many assumptions!
Quotepredicting that now a Democrat is in the White House we should get used to terrorist attacks.
See second quote above ::)
QuoteObama won. Get over it.
:D Get over it... i didn't bring him up :-[
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 30, 2008, 10:14:25 PM
QuoteYour point was to quote Joe Biden, Obama's VP.
Yes and again, how does that imply that Obama was responsible for said atrocity?
QuoteThen you announced the west had lost its balls.
Exactly, but we'll have to go back along way before Obama came along to when political correctness
and appeasement got it's foot in the door.... again taken out of context to suit a haters ;) point of view.
QuoteGiven that this attack is an India-Pakistan thing the only logical pointer to the west was Biden.
Again.. wrong! So you honestly believe that Pakistan is solely behind this and attacks like it?
QuoteGiven your history it is reasonable to assume
It is def reasonable to assume that you make too many assumptions!
Quotepredicting that now a Democrat is in the White House we should get used to terrorist attacks.
See second quote above ::)
QuoteObama won. Get over it.
:D Get over it... i didn't bring him up :-[
QED.
Really....?