I know this is being discussed in anotehr topic, but I think it deserves a topic of its own.
I think this could be a great appointment for Dublin. Dalo is a passionate hurling man and a born winner.
You only need to look into his eyes to see the intensity he possesses!
Dublin need that extra bit of juice for them to progress to the next level.
Daly almost got a Clare team past its peak to an All Ireland final in 2005.
The year before that he picked Clare up from a 19 point defeat to Waterford in the Munster championship, to almost pip Kilkenny in the All Ireland series.
With Galway in Leinster next year, Offaly improving and Daly managing Dublin, it could be the best Leinster championship in years.
Seems like a GAA topic to me ;)
Apologies, wrong forum.
If someone could move it for me???
I can see it now.
The Dublin captain collecting the Leinster title and roaring "We're no longer the whipping boys of Leinster" ;D
With Ger Loughnane returning back to punditry and Daly donning the manager's bib again, the analysis of Dublin's matches could be very tasty!
true ziggy, i forgot the promotion of hurling in tyrone was so prevalant these days.
Does Daly live in Dublin or will he be travelling, any word on the makeup of his backroom team?
Quote from: Minder on November 25, 2008, 11:33:15 AM
Does Daly live in Dublin or will he be travelling, any word on the makeup of his backroom team?
Lives in Clare - no official word on backroom team yet..
Dublin Hurling at Underage is developing fast and the only thing that worries me about the Daly appointment is that since he is not living in Dublin will he really be able to get around and see all the players and pull up new talent.
I think we have a great chance of making the Leinster final, even with Galway in the pot, and we must make a quarter-final appearance as the objective this year, as well as staying in Div 1.
Anything less will be considered a stall in the progress. I have nothing against an outside manager the issue is will he be able to get up every Sunday when the SHL is on to have a look at players in the flesh playing for the clubs.
I'm sure he'll have some good selectors to tell him who to pick. Anyone who knows anything about hurling in the capital is aware it won't stretch too far, we don't have that many good players yet. As for travelling ever hear of Shannon Airport?
Selectors have been annouced
Daly finalises backroom team
03 December 2008
New Dublin hurling manager Anthony Daly has completed his backroom team by naming Richard Stakelum and Ciaran Hetherton as his selectors.
Stakelum famously captained Tipperary to their first Munster hurling title in 16 years in 1987, but has been involved with Kilmacud Crokes in more recent times. Hetherton played with Dublin and has won county titles with Craobh Chiarain.
They will link up with Offaly native Vincent Teehan, who had already agreed to join Daly's coaching staff.
Meanwhile, Kilmoyley chairman Sean Murnane has revealed that Daly is helping the club in their search for a new manager after the Clare native led them to a Kerry SHC title in October before his exit.
"Anthony Daly will be a friend of Kilmoyley for a long time to come and we'll welcome him back to the parish with open arms," he said.
Went to PP yesterday to see the Cats in town. Clinical performance from them with no one in particular outstanding bar Tommy Walsh.......imo not one Dublin player won their individual battle. Tomás Brady might have "drawn" his own personal battle. From what I saw yesterday, KK won't be stopped this year unless Tipperary really improve from last year and some referee decides to take a harsh view of KK's borderline tackling. Even then this mightn't be enough.
Kilkenny's last goal was quiet simply the best goal I have ever seen. Majestic in its execution. Brought a huge round of applause from the home crowd.
From a Dublin perspective, McCrabbe,Brady,Corcoran and 2nd half sub Ruairí Trainor did alright. The forwards were poor, in particular the 1/2 forward line.Imo possibly 4 of the team will not play for the County again.
Was amazed on a number of occasions how quickly Tommy Walsh can pick up the sliotar in the midst of flaking/mudbaths.
Were the cameras there ? Any chance we'll see it later on TG4 ?
I enjoyed this article last week.
Maybe if he was interview 2 days later, it might have had a different tone! :D
Saturday, January 17, 2009
No sleep till Crusheen for driven Daly
TOM HUMPHRIES finds the coach hasn't forgotten the old days in Clare but he's living for the new days with Dublin
YOU WOULD have to know Crusheen's windswept plain to see any luxury in O'Toole Park. If you and your sweat and your blood and your youth were part of Crusheen's history as a crucible of suffering for Clare hurlers perhaps you can stand in this patch of Dublin mud and grass under the weak and watery light, stand here on this field stripped of goalposts and lashed with rain and wind and just feel at home again. Pampered even.
People ask Anthony Daly what are the training facilities like above in Dublin and like an old uncle who had been to New York before anybody else in the family he describes the wonders.
"I describe it as an upmarket version of Crusheen. There's buildings and a wall and the lights are better. At least we can hurl a little bit during the warm-up here."
It's a Thursday night that would make Jack London wilt and Anthony Daly's face framed by a woolly Yankees hat and a high-reaching anorak collar is beaming as he tells stories about the old days.
He is remembering that once upon a time Michael O'Grady, the former Dublin manager, brought himself and the Sparrow O'Loughlin on a trip to Scotland. This was before either himself or the Sparrow became storied warriors of hurling's revolutionary period.
He remembers the innocence of arriving back and being told to wear their green Ireland jumpers with pride and going into Powers and telling everyone who would listen that the singing of Flower of Scotland was the most hair-raisingly intimidating thing they had ever heard.
"Jesus, I'd say there wasn't 300 at the match but sure we thought this was the big time."
Behind him 30 Dublin hurlers are bending to the tasks of winter. Daly chuckles to himself when he looks at who is flying and who is carrying a bit of acreage after the winter feeding season. He'd have struggled with excess baggage out on Crusheen and on the hill in Shannon and recalls with envy the words of his great friend Fergie "Tuts" Touhy who used to disdain league play and the purer tortures of winter announcing grandly, "Ye'll all be shite for the league and by the spring they'll be begging me to come out."
A fine and forgotten art the early league sit-out.
More and more as Daly watches this Dublin team they remind him of the Clare teams he played on in the early 90s. The other night he was watching Dublin's league game with Cork from last year and found it frustratingly representative of the genre.
"They reminded me again of ourselves. There they were against Cork and the game is there to be won. The chances are coming and you want them to drive on and they lose by five points! You come away from that disgusted. That's a terrible feeling not being able to drive past. It's like the marathon when they hit the wall and they can't get past anybody. We were like that in Clare."
So! Open the bag of tricks! Make them run up and down a hill somewhere! Force them to play savage games in training and then make them win an All-Ireland. Tell them how to make speeches passionately ending the era of the Dublin whipping boys!
"Things like that will still happen," he says crushingly, "sure it comes with the times. We'll be about learning from defeats.
"One of the first things I said was there will be days coming home from league matches when we will be low. There is going to be a defeat and it will sicken us. It could go wrong on the biggest day of the year. We could lose to Antrim. And if it happens we'll have to pick up the parts. It's all part of the learning process. For now, there is great potential there."
And he nods his head to the heaving bunch of hurlers who are setting off on yet another gallop into the gloaming, great clouds of steam issuing from the pack as they exhale in the night.
Dublin both made progress and consolidated under Tommy Naughton but you suspect this is a new experience in the lives of most Dublin hurlers. On January 1st when the gate went up and collective training began again for county teams they played the Blue Stars in the annual games out in Kilbarrack. Since then they have played challenges against LIT , DIT and Offaly as well as training.
If it is a big commitment for players, the frisson of excitement which Daly's presence in the capital has created means that very few have been counting the cost and the extended panel he is now working with includes returnees like Damien Russell, Alan McCrabbe and Shane Martin.
There is the sense, too, in the pack that Daly's commitment seems as fierce as ever it was back home in Clare. His typical week involves leaving Clare for Dublin on Tuesday, getting to the city early, doing some gym work himself and then going to training and heading home again.
He comes up early again on Thursday and stays in Castleknock after training. Sees anybody who needs seeing on Friday and then does ball work with the team on Friday night before hitting the road for Clare again.
He's driving all the time. Eating the roads.
"I have my bearings now. Mary is the only woman I have trusted and obeyed in my life. She's the sat nav lady. She says 'go left'. I go left. I didn't start driving till I was 26 so it's still a bit of a novelty!"
What made him do it? When Gerry Harrington from the Dublin County Board first called he said he hadn't really thought about it because nobody had asked him. By the time a three-man delegation form Dublin got down to meet him he was enthused by the idea.
"I think when they called they were at the stage of just ruling out fellas. I said I'd meet them. I was fairly positive when I thought about it and they made a great case.
"For me what's it in it, though? Well the wife would answer that. I'm happier in the last three weeks than in the last two years, I'd say. I love it. I was depressed for three months after giving up Clare. I could have stayed with Clare for a fourth year but I felt that if I failed for a fourth season there was no way of ever going near it again.
"There's plenty to be done here in Dublin if you want to do it. And I do. I would stand behind players all night, every night at training. I love the buzz, the dressingroom, the field, the chat and the work. It's my addiction."
And then there is that little strain of romance which always clings to Daly in his endeavours. Dublin just remind him of the old days when Clare couldn't buy a bit of luck.
"I just liked the thought of them where they are. I thought there would be a bit of a kick in them, that they would respond well and so far, they have. I'm delighted, to be honest.
"In fairness, there's no sparing the effort from the lads. It's already a good sign that I know it will be very hard to cut the panel. I thought we would be wondering about who to keep. It'll be tough to let lads go."
Daly's task is difficult to define. Dublin have reached a certain point on the mountainside. The slopes above are dotted with many of the teams who will play in this year's Leinster championship. What success will be in Dublin will probably only be known when something happens which feels like success.
In selling the Dublin job the delegation referred again and again to the tipping point, to bringing Dublin to or beyond that point where momentum is irresistible and the great work of recent underage campaigns bears real fruit.
He knows the names of every player now, a facility he learned working in the bank years ago, and he is absorbing himself into Dublin hurling life. Before he came to Dublin Niall Gilligan had told him to watch out for Christy Sweets, Dublin's most stalwart supporter. Last Sunday in Kinnegad he marched up to Christy and introduced himself and invited him to eat with the team. Another friend made.
He stands by the gate near where the last run of the night finishes up. He makes a comment to each finishing player. "Well done, Mikey". "Good boy, Cathal". And so on. Inside there is steaming tea and 40 meals awaiting. This is Thursday. On Friday night they will meet for ball work. On Saturday they will go to Limerick to see Ger Hartmann.
On Sunday, tomorrow, they will play Kilkenny, a wrecking ball of reality swinging into Parnell Park.
"Go handy now," he says, "don't go writing anything that will make Cody think that we think we're going to beat them."
Big test for Dublin and the new manager today - a game they're 1-4 to win. This is a must win game for Dublin - they ought to win handy.
Quote from: orangeman on February 08, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
Big test for Dublin and the new manager today - a game they're 1-4 to win. This is a must win game for Dublin - they ought to win handy.
And a job duly done..with 3 goals to spare ;D
Hell of a win for the Dubs against Galway, while I fancied their chances I didnt think the margin would be as much.
A Dub hurler has won hurler of the month for February..
Fair play to the Dubs thus far. It speaks loads for the underage set-up that they are now getting some payback at senior level. I'd love to see the Dubs stay in Div one. I see some have tipped them to beat Limerick too. Now if they took two Munster scalps then they might start getting a bit of respect from the stronger hurling counties.
Dublin threw that away in Limerick yesterday. Three missed frees in the closing minutes. Both teams were poor in the final quarter.
Limerick's goal was a definite free out. Goalie touched in the square, lost possession and goal.
This new relationship between Daly and the Dubs is going well lads and is great for hurling in Leinster. I would love to see them get the same support in hurling as they do in football.
Looking forward to Antrim game...
Either team could pull of an upset this championship...
Quote from: Bud Wiser on March 03, 2009, 07:50:43 AM
This new relationship between Daly and the Dubs is going well lads and is great for hurling in Leinster. I would love to see them get the same support in hurling as they do in football.
Be careful what you wish for. ;D
Quote from: heffo on February 26, 2009, 11:30:47 AM
A Dub hurler has won hurler of the month for February..
Officially announced Wednesday:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/new-dubs-sensation-rushe-hails-blossoming-daly-factor-1669800.html
Just to say history was made in parnell yesterday when 2 dublin schools contested the final of the leinster senior B colleges hurling championship yesterday with Colaiste Eoin winning and going forward to the all-ireland semi. To put this in context up to 5 years ago Dublin schools couldn't win a first round tie in this competition. I think its the first time in this comepititon that 2 schools from the same county contested the final
Indiana is there still a combined dublin colleges team competing in the A competition?
Quote from: slow corner back on March 13, 2009, 11:17:34 AM
Indiana is there still a combined dublin colleges team competing in the A competition?
Split into North & South now - South Dublin won Leinster 'A' Hurling league this year
Quote from: INDIANA on March 13, 2009, 09:28:25 AM
Just to say history was made in parnell yesterday when 2 dublin schools contested the final of the leinster senior B colleges hurling championship yesterday with Colaiste Eoin winning and going forward to the all-ireland semi. To put this in context up to 5 years ago Dublin schools couldn't win a first round tie in this competition. I think its the first time in this comepititon that 2 schools from the same county contested the final
Dublin hurling has made remarkable improvements over the past few years. Long may it continue! Hurling needs all the counties it can get, The more teams that are competitive the better.
great win for us today against waterford. Dublin 2nd only to the cats after 4 games - what odds would I have got beforehand.Had we beaten limerick we'd be on the verge of a div1 league final.
Fair fucks to Dublin, I'll gladly eat some humble pie with them. Daly is doing an amazing job and long may it continue. Hurling needs all the counties it can get competing at the top level, they've a while to go yet but there really has been some remarkable improvments over the years. Well done to them a very good win, a very good League they're having.
Fair dos indeed a great second half fightback according to the radio. With Clare to come at Parnell Park you could well end on eight points although trips to Kilkenny and Tipp will be tough
Thanks lads haven't a hope against kilkenny, we'll struggle against Tipp they'll be out for blood after today. I'd be happy if we could beat Clare , push Tipp all the way and keep it to 10-12 points against kilkenny. We have to be realistic as well. We're still some way off the big 3.
Great result all the same.
What an absolutely tremendous result for Dublin today against the Deise ! And to think that Dublin should have also taken the points against Limerick as well.
Congratulations lads - keep it up. Great to see a renewed force.
Davy Fitz's decision to keep Waterford up til the early hours at the Bernard Dunne fight looks foolish now!
Great result for Dublin. Id say what should have been their first target of Division 1 safety has now been met, and while a league final may be too much to ask for, one more win from the last three games would make it a successful league campaign for ye. Its amazing to think had ye beaten Limerick, (and ye very well could have) Dublin would now be top of Division 1.
Quote from: INDIANA on March 13, 2009, 09:28:25 AM
Just to say history was made in parnell yesterday when 2 dublin schools contested the final of the leinster senior B colleges hurling championship yesterday with Colaiste Eoin winning and going forward to the all-ireland semi. To put this in context up to 5 years ago Dublin schools couldn't win a first round tie in this competition. I think its the first time in this comepititon that 2 schools from the same county contested the final
God Damn them Colaiste Eoin guys...the bane of my life while in Colaiste Eanna at hurling and obviously still doing it to us!!!!
Great game!
Dubs win yesterday is great for Leinster hurling. Best result of all results yesterday.
Heard Coláiste Eoin won the AISF against a Galway team and now face an Antrim team in the final (who beat the Munster champs).
As for PP yesterday, it was a good win for us ...... truth be told it was a poor game of hurling with 3 "fresh air " attempts by Waterford in the first 5 minutes.....incredible.
After a poor start Ronan Fallon had a great 2nd half and the new Waterford keeper was sensational....... I think I saw the genesis of a future legend there.
The Waterford "warm up" was cringeworthy in the extreme ........ a mass huddle of lads "shouldering" each other (very gently I should add) and comicallythen the Waterford lads slapping their bodies while in a circle.
Best for Dublin were Hiney, Boland (my motm), Trainor (after a nightmarish start) and McCrabbe amongst others.
Both Ryan and Rushe were quiet enough.
Answers the question I had asked on the antrim hurling page, CPC frpm Ballycastle beat a Limerick team yesterday and wil now face Colaiste Eoin in the final. Any ideas of dates or venues?
Dublin must be short priced to beat Antrim in the championship. i'd say 13/8 double with the footballers.
will dublin now get the Killmacud boys back? shame some of the other footballers didn't way in behind Daly. would be some team
Would Dublin be missing many players who haven't committed to the hurling...through Football/other reasons?? Unfortunately I think they are going to defeat Antrim come the championship but a Dublin team going well would be good for Hurling.
Quote from: slow corner back on March 23, 2009, 07:24:13 PM
Answers the question I had asked on the antrim hurling page, CPC frpm Ballycastle beat a Limerick team yesterday and wil now face Colaiste Eoin in the final. Any ideas of dates or venues?
Newry I believe 70% chance.
Ok there are still 3 games to go but who could have predicted this table at the start of the league ??
Allianz GAA Hurling National League Roinn 1 Table
Team Pld Won Draw Lost For Against Diff Points
Kilkenny 4 3 0 1 89 64 25 6
Dublin 4 3 0 1 80 60 20 6
Tipperary 4 3 0 1 78 72 6 6
Waterford 4 2 0 2 72 66 6 4
Limerick 4 2 0 2 65 65 0 4
Galway 4 2 0 2 72 79 -7 4
Cork 4 1 0 3 60 91 -31 2
Clare 4 0 0 4 66 85 -19 0
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 23, 2009, 08:43:57 PM
Would Dublin be missing many players who haven't committed to the hurling...through Football/other reasons?? Unfortunately I think they are going to defeat Antrim come the championship but a Dublin team going well would be good for Hurling.
Dublin would certainly be better off with Conal Keaney who would make the KK team if he had stayed a hurler, Ryan, Connolly, Henry etc...
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on March 25, 2009, 08:26:10 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 23, 2009, 08:43:57 PM
Would Dublin be missing many players who haven't committed to the hurling...through Football/other reasons?? Unfortunately I think they are going to defeat Antrim come the championship but a Dublin team going well would be good for Hurling.
Dublin would certainly be better off with Conal Keaney who would make the KK team if he had stayed a hurler, Ryan, Connolly, Henry etc...
All these great hurlers in Dublin playing football is a myth at this stage. Henry and Connolly are much better footballers. Ryan was a very good hurler but he has not played it at a serious level in 10 years so he is no longer relevant . Keaney is a major loss and hopefully he will come back at some stage. I think Dublin need to be concentrating on all the good hurlers they have instead of worrying about the odd lad who isn't available.
true but connolly was man of the match against ballyboden last year where after a months training he outhurled 2 lads who'd been playing inter county hurling all year. I'd make an exception for him. A complete natural. Keaney would still have something to offer as well.
Quote from: INDIANA on March 25, 2009, 09:42:59 AM
true but connolly was man of the match against ballyboden last year where after a months training he outhurled 2 lads who'd been playing inter county hurling all year. I'd make an exception for him. A complete natural. Keaney would still have something to offer as well.
I wasn't at the match but will take your word for it. I based my opinion on his performance for the u21's in their run to the All Ireland 2 years ago. He looked decent but mothing more. As a footballer while there is obvious question marks over his tempermant I think he is as a talented a fplayer as we have ever produced.
I agree he wasn't especially good for the u21's 2 years ago but he was playing for about 6 teams at the time. He's probably even better at hurling than football if the truth be known. Ross O Carroll turned down the footballers last week - thats a first for Dublin hurling.
do cuala still play senior hurling lads ?
Quote from: the Deel Rover on March 26, 2009, 02:35:19 PM
do cuala still play senior hurling lads ?
Yes. They have not been that strong the last number of years but the future looks bright for them. They have a thriving under age section and have had a big representation on Dublin Minor teams in the last few years.
On Sunday, Dublin play Calre and guess what ? Dublin in the handicap betting are minus a point !
Some turnaround - I hope they keep up the good work.
Great to see the Dubs putting in such a strong showing in the league, Daly seems to have given them that bit of aggression and belief required to win games at this level. Leinster is going to be interesting this year (ignoring the fact that the Cats will most likely walk it) with Dublin, Galway, Offaly, Wexford and Antrim all feeling they have a chance of beating each other on their day.
Dublin lost by 2 points in nowlan park. 1-23 to 3-15. Didn't get to it myself but I've no fingernails left after listening on the radio. We were 2 up with a minute to go and the bastards got a goal. And kilkenny had virtually the full whack out.
Fair dues Indiana good going again from the Dubs. How many weeks is it until the championship?
Sounds a good result but Babs was in the RTE studio saying Kilkenny were giving encouragement to Dublin, pulling out of the fifty fifties etc.
Babs is a cantankerous old bollox who should have been put out to pasture a long time ago. He lives in dublin for 20 years and the only team in Dublin he lifted a finger for was UCD. That to me says a lot about the man. My only regret when he was beating my club regularly in the senior hurling finals in Dublin with UCD was that I didn't give the git more abuse from the terraces then I actualy did. He has no time for Dublin hurling and I have no time for him.
Quote from: INDIANA on April 19, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
Babs is a cantankerous old bollox who should have been put out to pasture a long time ago. He lives in dublin for 20 years and the only team in Dublin he lifted a finger for was UCD. That to me says a lot about the man. My only regret when he was beating my club regularly in the senior hurling finals in Dublin with UCD was that I didn't give the git more abuse from the terraces then I actualy did. He has no time for Dublin hurling and I have no time for him.
Sounds fair enough.
I find a lot of the older/snobby hurling community behave in the same way as the top class international cricket teams do towards the rest. They pay a lot of lip service to the emerging sides and the future and always talk of progress but when it comes down to it they don't really give a shit.
Quote from: ExiledGael on April 19, 2009, 04:31:50 PM
Sounds a good result but Babs was in the RTE studio saying Kilkenny were giving encouragement to Dublin, pulling out of the fifty fifties etc.
Babs says a lot of things....
Fair dues to Dublin. KK weren't great but Dublin faught hard.
course kilkenny weren't great sure weren't they playing Dublin Reillers? Watch out Reillers we'd love a cut at you boys later on this year.
Dublin's progress especially under Daly has been immense. Fair dues all round.
Quote from: INDIANA on April 19, 2009, 08:13:41 PM
course kilkenny weren't great sure weren't they playing Dublin Reillers? Watch out Reillers we'd love a cut at you boys later on this year.
So you think Kilkenny were good. Come on. They were poor, they weren't hungry, now that's not taking anything away from yere brave fight, but they weren't great.
And don't you ever go to a game?
Go and get stuffed thats the only hurling match I missed all season you p***k. Some of us have to work for a living and I have to work one weekend a month- when you leave school you'll realise that
You're just a bandwagon semi hurling- munster rugby fan with little or no connection with the game and even less in terms of training teams Delighted you got stuffed again today and I'd love our lads to have a cut at you later on in the year. we scored 3-15 reillers you scored 0-11 against kilkenny ;D
KK were particularly hungry against Cork for some reason.
Quote from: INDIANA on April 19, 2009, 09:42:32 PM
Go and get stuffed thats the only hurling match I missed all season you p***k. Some of us have to work for a living and I have to work one weekend a month- when you leave school you'll realise that
You're just a bandwagon semi hurling- munster rugby fan with little or no connection with the game and even less in terms of training teams Delighted you got stuffed again today and I'd love our lads to have a cut at you later on in the year. we scored 3-15 reillers you scored 0-11 against kilkenny ;D
You do realise that stat, plus the league results, will be irrelevant come Championship?
It will not be irrelevant if either team has to face KK later on this season. One of the main factors keeping KK at the top is the psychological damage they do to teams by hammering them on a regular basis. A lot of teams are beat before they leave the dressing room against them.
Quote from: corn02 on April 19, 2009, 09:48:48 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 19, 2009, 09:42:32 PM
Go and get stuffed thats the only hurling match I missed all season you p***k. Some of us have to work for a living and I have to work one weekend a month- when you leave school you'll realise that
You're just a bandwagon semi hurling- munster rugby fan with little or no connection with the game and even less in terms of training teams Delighted you got stuffed again today and I'd love our lads to have a cut at you later on in the year. we scored 3-15 reillers you scored 0-11 against kilkenny ;D
You do realise that stat, plus the league results, will be irrelevant come Championship?
Absolutely but you have to start somewhere. And we're moving in the right direction. If that was a genuine Cork fan I'd take it on board. But its not- he isn't a genuine cork fan - he's a bandwagoner who knows nothing about even his own county minor team. I'm not taking the views of that type seriously. At the end of the day he's a fulltime munster rugby fan and a part-time cork hurling fan.
on an encouraging note at least Reillers has mustered the ability to find another thread to make a clown of himself on.
I know enough about Kilkenny hurling to know they don't do taking the foot of the pedal. Hurling badly needs competitive new counties to emerge, might discourage the small establishment from going on strike if they knew the automatic pass to the last 8 was under threat.
Quote from: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 09:58:09 PM
It will not be irrelevant if either team has to face KK later on this season. One of the main factors keeping KK at the top is the psychological damage they do to teams by hammering them on a regular basis. A lot of teams are beat before they leave the dressing room against them.
That's the great thing about Dublin.
Most of the lads on that team have plenty of experience of beating KK at underage so they aren't intimidated by the black and amber stripes.
Quote from: INDIANA on April 19, 2009, 10:02:06 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 19, 2009, 09:48:48 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 19, 2009, 09:42:32 PM
Go and get stuffed thats the only hurling match I missed all season you p***k. Some of us have to work for a living and I have to work one weekend a month- when you leave school you'll realise that
You're just a bandwagon semi hurling- munster rugby fan with little or no connection with the game and even less in terms of training teams Delighted you got stuffed again today and I'd love our lads to have a cut at you later on in the year. we scored 3-15 reillers you scored 0-11 against kilkenny ;D
You do realise that stat, plus the league results, will be irrelevant come Championship?
Absolutely but you have to start somewhere. And we're moving in the right direction. If that was a genuine Cork fan I'd take it on board. But its not- he isn't a genuine cork fan - he's a bandwagoner who knows nothing about even his own county minor team. I'm not taking the views of that type seriously. At the end of the day he's a fulltime munster rugby fan and a part-time cork hurling fan.
Excuse me, you call me a bandwaggoner, kinda sweet, I mention you're never at matches, and you call me a bandwaggoner, also sweet that you don't say it to my face. Why would you call me a bandwagoner.
I've no doubt that I've probably been at more hurling games then you've ever seen, especially seeing as your posts are getting more and more childish by the minute, I mean "you p***k"..tut, tut, tut, don't be loosing your temper.
Lets see, I'm involved very much in my club, I was at nearly every U21 game last season and minor, missing two because my younger brother was in hospital. Is that exceptable to miss a game?
I was at the U17 and minor games against Kilkenny yesterday in Rairc Ui Rinn.
You no nothing about me. Yet you make presumptions again. You've acted like a WUM countless times, posting personal information that I never gave you permistion to post, which you were lucky that I didn't report.
You then lie about seeing Cork players, to try and prove me wrong, which is quite sad and makes you look like a bit of an idiot. Oh you saw some of the players, oh wait it was half of the team, no wait you saw all of them play against a eh Dublin underage side once..apparently they all played together.
How dare you try and trash me with yet again no proof what so ever. It's laughable really. I tell you that I've been involved in my club rugby for almost as many years as I have been with my GAA club, which is probably longer then you've been born.
I'm lucky if I get to a Munster rugby game because some of us actually have to work.
You, you bullshit about everything that is Cork, you think it's ok to make assumptions on players you've seen play once, sorry wait no it was twice or a few times actually, over someone who's seen them for years, as kids to where they are now.
Sure what was it, sure aren't Dublin the second best team in the country, that's what you said, as much as you know. When asked about a Cork player, any Cork underage Cork player, you pretty much copied and pasted from my post, or then there was PROC or Rebelgaa or Kilkennycats, or wherever you so called DUBLIN fan felt like hanging out in your endless free time. I mean you say you know it all, but Cork didn't get stuffed today now did they, no see loosing by 4 points isn't getting "stuffed", esepecially when we were getting thrashed till about half an hour from the end.
You want to go and thrash my name, next time do so to my face.
Lie about me again or continue to WUM and next time I will report you.
Sure you have Reillers- lets face it a few weeks ago you didn't even know when Cork had last won an underage minor and u21 all-ireland last- you needed me to tell you. That tells me everything and you have the arrogance to ask me do I go to any games. Go ahead and report me- For what exactly. All it is is threats and more garbage .
Yerra , yerra yera. Comical Reillers you should be communications officer for Cowen.
Were you in Nowlan Park today? So how do you know how good Kilkenny were today? See what I mean about WUM. You wrote the book on it. How did Munster play last night anyway. Did they get the bonus point?
Quote from: INDIANA on April 19, 2009, 11:10:57 PM
Sure you have Reillers- lets face it a few weeks ago you didn't even know when Cork had last won an underage minor and u21 all-ireland last- you needed me to tell you. That tells me everything and you have the arrogance to ask me do I go to any games. Go ahead and report me- For what exactly. All it is is threats and more garbage .
Yerra , yerra yera. Comical Reillers you should be communications officer for Cowen.
Were you in Nowlan Park today? So how do you know how good Kilkenny were today? See what I mean about WUM. You wrote the book on it. How did Munster play last night anyway. Did they get the bonus point?
Where did I say I didn't know, because I can't find me saying that anywhere, actually I'm pretty sure I posted results for countless of years. Like I said, your posts are getting more childish and comical by the minute.
And you just said that you weren't there either, so how would you know? I was told by 2 Dublin fans that Kilkenny were, and I quote "shocking compared to against Cork." They were at the game, and reports say that Kilkenny weren't great either. So I think that's good enough for me. If they weren't and Kilkenny were fantastic then I apologise, but from what I hear, with the exception of bursts of scoring at the start of the first and second half, they weren't great. If I'm wrong I apologise for upseting you so much.
Go to bed, surely it's way past your bed time. Maybe you'll stop making yourself look like a fool then, just take a breath and count to ten.
I mean you've got some sort of childish obsession, unhealthy at this stage, for what I don't know, liking rugby, something which I've been involved at club level. My dad's club for a lot of years.
Now you have "issues" about other sport, that's your problem really. Maybe have a go at these guys instead of whinging in my ear all the time, it's tiring to say the least and more then a little bit irritating.
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=32.0
You posted nothing of the sort- I posted the roll of honour for your benefit because you haven't a clue- you're like a one armed man trying to swim Reillers. Yerra , Yerra. I find it amazing a Dub knows more about Cork hurling than you do for someone so "involved".
Again can't find that either, are you sure you just weren't dreaming Indy?
Look I'd like to sit here listening to you moaning all night but some of us have to get up for work tomorrow morning, we didn't have all of Easter break off like yourself. You clearly didn't get much sleep over those 2 or 1 week off, whatever it was, because I say well done Dublin and you've a hissy fit. Clearly it's much past your bed time.
Sure maybe you were telling another little fib, that you actually are involved with Dublin minor, playing minor..God I remember those days, funnily enough I played minor myself for a while, a good few years ago now, and I don't know if you could call it playing, never lasted that long. Lol.
Delighted for the Dubs, I didn't see the game so can't comment on whether the Cats were up for it or not but even if the Cats dipped to 70% then losing by 2 points is a great result. The Cats I can tell your are a good 10 points ahead of most even at 70%-80%. What Dublin have done for hurling should be hailed for what it is, amazing. Unlike most counties kids are not born with a hurley in their hand, their is no field at the back of their house to spend their evenings pucking a ball around. Hurling is not even a glamorous sport in Dublin with Gaelic Football, Rugby and Soccer the trendy sports. Logistics in Dublin is a nightmare, imagine arriving home from work or School and then having to spend 2 hours in rush hour traffic just to travel 10 miles to train. The commitment these guys put in is probably above any other county as I know when I was hurling I use to bitch and moan travelling across the city to train in UCD with my fellow Dublin based Clubmen for one evening a week, if I had to do it for more than one evening I probably would have told them where to go.
Its a shame Dublin didn't play a conventional 15-a-side formation. They're good enough to have given that Kilkenny a right old rattle yesterday. After 15 minutes of the game, dotsy and Tracey were very much living on scraps, though they did very well with the plentiful ball that the KK back spilled time and time again.
Hurling is about outscoring your opposition, not outdefending them. I think Dublin would have had a better chance of winning this if McCaffrey played where he was meant to and Dublin had a 3-man full forward. The tactic stinks of Humphrey Kelleher and Dublin don't need to adopt it - particularly in the first half when they had the wind and the sun. Its tantamount with having your forwards play with one hand behind their back. And it speaks volumes for the lads inside that they did as well as they did despite being badly outnumbered.
This game was won in the last 10 minutes of the first half. Kilkenny completely overran the Dublin defense. I feared for Dublin at that stage. But they really knuckled down and got stuck right in in the second half. Kilkenny were poor, yes. They barely had a midfield. The half-back line was leaking, the full-back line did a lot of fumbling, and you'd have to wonder about the wisdom of leaving Canice Hickey on Dotsy given the difference in pace.
Eoin Larkin was the man though. His class was the difference. He is a joy to watch. Even in games where he'll duck out of sight for a time.
The ref was poor. Kilkenny will probably have more gripes with him than Dublin. His 'interpretation' of fouls at times was fairly baffling while at other times choosing to completely ignore some of the stuff that was going on.
Dublin should really make a go of that second spot in Leinster now. And I include Galway in that. Its time for Dublin to put their money where their mouths are and consolidate this good league run by giving the championship a good old rattle.
QuoteIts a shame Dublin didn't play a conventional 15-a-side formation.They're good enough to have given that Kilkenny a right old rattle yesterday.
Wasn't down at the game BT but all the reports said that it was precisely the formation that enabled them to get so close to Kilkenny???
Quote from: Declan on April 20, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
QuoteIts a shame Dublin didn't play a conventional 15-a-side formation.They're good enough to have given that Kilkenny a right old rattle yesterday.
Wasn't down at the game BT but all the reports said that it was precisely the formation that enabled them to get so close to Kilkenny???
I disagree. It was defensive. Yes, it took KK a while to adapt but after 15 mins Dublin were living off scraps up front. If they had have been more attack-minded they could have won.
just my opinion of course, but I hate those negative tactics. I have only seen them work a couple of times, and even those were more to do with other extenuating circumstances.
Packing your defense is almost an admission that you think you need 16 men to beat your opposition. I think Dublin have shown enough this year to suggest they are a match for anyone, particularly in the league.
And whatever about doing it in one half, when playing into the breeze, doing it for the whole game just doesn't make sense. As I said, it smacks of Humphrey Kelleher.
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on April 20, 2009, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: Declan on April 20, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
QuoteIts a shame Dublin didn't play a conventional 15-a-side formation.They're good enough to have given that Kilkenny a right old rattle yesterday.
Wasn't down at the game BT but all the reports said that it was precisely the formation that enabled them to get so close to Kilkenny???
I disagree. It was defensive. Yes, it took KK a while to adapt but after 15 mins Dublin were living off scraps up front. If they had have been more attack-minded they could have won.
just my opinion of course, but I hate those negative tactics. I have only seen them work a couple of times, and even those were more to do with other extenuating circumstances.
Packing your defense is almost an admission that you think you need 16 men to beat your opposition. I think Dublin have shown enough this year to suggest they are a match for anyone, particularly in the league.
And whatever about doing it in one half, when playing into the breeze, doing it for the whole game just doesn't make sense. As I said, it smacks of Humphrey Kelleher.
I think your over selling how far Dublin have come and under selling how good Kilkenny are. Playing 7 back was a smart move.
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on April 20, 2009, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: Declan on April 20, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
QuoteIts a shame Dublin didn't play a conventional 15-a-side formation.They're good enough to have given that Kilkenny a right old rattle yesterday.
Wasn't down at the game BT but all the reports said that it was precisely the formation that enabled them to get so close to Kilkenny???
I disagree. It was defensive. Yes, it took KK a while to adapt but after 15 mins Dublin were living off scraps up front. If they had have been more attack-minded they could have won.
just my opinion of course, but I hate those negative tactics. I have only seen them work a couple of times, and even those were more to do with other extenuating circumstances.
Packing your defense is almost an admission that you think you need 16 men to beat your opposition. I think Dublin have shown enough this year to suggest they are a match for anyone, particularly in the league.
And whatever about doing it in one half, when playing into the breeze, doing it for the whole game just doesn't make sense. As I said, it smacks of Humphrey Kelleher.
Couldn't disagree more. the reason we stayed in the game yesterday was because it took them 69 mins to score goals.You concede 2 early goals against kilkenny as cork and tipp saw in the last few weeks- its goodnight irene. We were missing our first choice full back and had a 19/20 year old at corner back. Our full back line is still an issue and I think Daly wanted to protect that yesterday. In view of that it was worth trying and in my view it worked based on what I've read and been told.
We've been leaking goals in the league- and it cost us the tipp game. Agree about Galway. If Dublin beat Antrim I'd like them to get Galway- may as well see where we are at that stage as any other and really test ourselves.
Quote from: hatchetfield on April 20, 2009, 12:58:46 PM
So, do ye think Antrim will be a walkover for ye lads?
Absolutely not- just look at the recent games between the teams. Not looking beyond that.
As i wasn't at the game i'll not comment on the effectiveness of the tactic, but i certainly wouldn't have been surprised Daly used it, he did it with Clare and very nearly turned KK in the Championship a few years ago and so with a less traditional team he was alwaysl ikely to repeat it.
Also Dublin i thought had little to win in this match and plenty to lose, a big stuffing by Kilkenny at this stage could have undone alot of the progress the Dubs had made in earilier rounds. think daly would have taken any result where the difference was single figures yesterday morning
As it turns out an almost terrific and further boosts the confidence of Antrims opponents in Leinster
Quote from: INDIANA on April 20, 2009, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on April 20, 2009, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: Declan on April 20, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
QuoteIts a shame Dublin didn't play a conventional 15-a-side formation.They're good enough to have given that Kilkenny a right old rattle yesterday.
Wasn't down at the game BT but all the reports said that it was precisely the formation that enabled them to get so close to Kilkenny???
I disagree. It was defensive. Yes, it took KK a while to adapt but after 15 mins Dublin were living off scraps up front. If they had have been more attack-minded they could have won.
just my opinion of course, but I hate those negative tactics. I have only seen them work a couple of times, and even those were more to do with other extenuating circumstances.
Packing your defense is almost an admission that you think you need 16 men to beat your opposition. I think Dublin have shown enough this year to suggest they are a match for anyone, particularly in the league.
And whatever about doing it in one half, when playing into the breeze, doing it for the whole game just doesn't make sense. As I said, it smacks of Humphrey Kelleher.
Couldn't disagree more. the reason we stayed in the game yesterday was because it took them 69 mins to score goals.You concede 2 early goals against kilkenny as cork and tipp saw in the last few weeks- its goodnight irene. We were missing our first choice full back and had a 19/20 year old at corner back. Our full back line is still an issue and I think Daly wanted to protect that yesterday. In view of that it was worth trying and in my view it worked based on what I've read and been told.
We've been leaking goals in the league- and it cost us the tipp game. Agree about Galway. If Dublin beat Antrim I'd like them to get Galway- may as well see where we are at that stage as any other and really test ourselves.
Dublin lost the game though so it didn't work. Clearly.
Dublin conceded 1-22 yesterday (or whatever the score was). They wouldn't have conceded much more without McCaffrey back there. More of a push up front was needed.
I've watched Dublin hurling long enough to know that Dublin have never had a problem being competitive around the field. The problem has been scoring. And when finally they get picked off by a persistent opposition the heads drop and it can turn into a hammering. Dublin need to be scoring to have any chance of beating the bigger guns. Not limiting the damage.
Quote from: Gnevin on April 20, 2009, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on April 20, 2009, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: Declan on April 20, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
QuoteIts a shame Dublin didn't play a conventional 15-a-side formation.They're good enough to have given that Kilkenny a right old rattle yesterday.
Wasn't down at the game BT but all the reports said that it was precisely the formation that enabled them to get so close to Kilkenny???
I disagree. It was defensive. Yes, it took KK a while to adapt but after 15 mins Dublin were living off scraps up front. If they had have been more attack-minded they could have won.
just my opinion of course, but I hate those negative tactics. I have only seen them work a couple of times, and even those were more to do with other extenuating circumstances.
Packing your defense is almost an admission that you think you need 16 men to beat your opposition. I think Dublin have shown enough this year to suggest they are a match for anyone, particularly in the league.
And whatever about doing it in one half, when playing into the breeze, doing it for the whole game just doesn't make sense. As I said, it smacks of Humphrey Kelleher.
I think your over selling how far Dublin have come and under selling how good Kilkenny are. Playing 7 back was a smart move.
I'm talking about yesterday's game. Thats all. Dublin lost, so it wasn't a smart move.
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on April 20, 2009, 02:33:15 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on April 20, 2009, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on April 20, 2009, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: Declan on April 20, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
QuoteIts a shame Dublin didn't play a conventional 15-a-side formation.They're good enough to have given that Kilkenny a right old rattle yesterday.
Wasn't down at the game BT but all the reports said that it was precisely the formation that enabled them to get so close to Kilkenny???
I disagree. It was defensive. Yes, it took KK a while to adapt but after 15 mins Dublin were living off scraps up front. If they had have been more attack-minded they could have won.
just my opinion of course, but I hate those negative tactics. I have only seen them work a couple of times, and even those were more to do with other extenuating circumstances.
Packing your defense is almost an admission that you think you need 16 men to beat your opposition. I think Dublin have shown enough this year to suggest they are a match for anyone, particularly in the league.
And whatever about doing it in one half, when playing into the breeze, doing it for the whole game just doesn't make sense. As I said, it smacks of Humphrey Kelleher.
I think your over selling how far Dublin have come and under selling how good Kilkenny are. Playing 7 back was a smart move.
I'm talking about yesterday's game. Thats all. Dublin lost, so it wasn't a smart move.
Not necessarily - it could've been worse has McCaffrey not been used as a sweeper..
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on April 20, 2009, 02:33:15 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on April 20, 2009, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on April 20, 2009, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: Declan on April 20, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
QuoteIts a shame Dublin didn't play a conventional 15-a-side formation.They're good enough to have given that Kilkenny a right old rattle yesterday.
Wasn't down at the game BT but all the reports said that it was precisely the formation that enabled them to get so close to Kilkenny???
I disagree. It was defensive. Yes, it took KK a while to adapt but after 15 mins Dublin were living off scraps up front. If they had have been more attack-minded they could have won.
just my opinion of course, but I hate those negative tactics. I have only seen them work a couple of times, and even those were more to do with other extenuating circumstances.
Packing your defense is almost an admission that you think you need 16 men to beat your opposition. I think Dublin have shown enough this year to suggest they are a match for anyone, particularly in the league.
And whatever about doing it in one half, when playing into the breeze, doing it for the whole game just doesn't make sense. As I said, it smacks of Humphrey Kelleher.
I think your over selling how far Dublin have come and under selling how good Kilkenny are. Playing 7 back was a smart move.
I'm talking about yesterday's game. Thats all. Dublin lost, so it wasn't a smart move.
Was anyone expecting us to win? We'll agree to disagree but in my view if kilkenny score a couple of early goals its end game. The fact they didn't meant we were able to hang in there. I'm not saying it would work again-but it served its purpose yesterday. A 20 point hammering would have left us with an awful lot to do come championship time. people have to remember that was summer hurling yesterday- not slow ground in the depths of winter. So a good day out in my view. I'd say Daly was afraid of his life of being beaten out the gate- and who could blame him after the Cork and Tipp games in Nowlan Park.