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From BBC.
Cavanagh named new GPA secretary
Sean Cavanagh helped Tyrone to their All-Ireland SFC triumph
Tyrone star Sean Cavanagh will take over from Kildare manager Kieran McGeeney as secretary of the Gaelic Players Association.
The 25-year-old from Moy, who captained Ireland to an International Rules series win over Australia, is the 2008 Footballer of the Year.
GPA chief Dessie Farrell made his annual address on Friday.
"The time has come for the GAA to grasp the opportunity to move relations with players on to a new level," he said.
The short skirt and lipstick on the Moy Magician just doesn't sit well with me.
As an accountant (I believe), isnt he over qualified?
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I expect a lot of the Tyrone bucks on this board are pissed off with Cavanagh :P
First he goes to Australia to play International Rules and if that wasnt enough he captains the team and was one of, if not the ,best player there.
Now he turns around and becomes an officer of the GPA :o
Next thing hell accept a grant ......
Will Cavanagh retain the same god like status? Will he be afforded the same hatred that Donal Og, Dessie Farrell et al get on this board?
that probably depends on how he conducts himself. I don't recall much venom being thrown at McGeeney.
Quote from: Puckoon on November 07, 2008, 09:56:44 PM
that probably depends on how he conducts himself. I don't recall much venom being thrown at McGeeney.
Will he not be "guilty by association" regardless of how he conducts himself?
perhaps there might. Unless he proves different, I think comparisons to the militance and ignorance of Farrell and Donal Og are uncalled for.
Quote from: Minder on November 07, 2008, 09:50:54 PM
Will Cavanagh retain the same god like status? Will he be afforded the same hatred that Donal Og, Dessie Farrell et al get on this board?
Don't agree with him. But first and foremost he's a footballer and a damn good one at that.
So yeah, he's Jesus. Not God, that's Canavan ;)
Quote from: Puckoon on November 07, 2008, 10:09:45 PM
perhaps there might. Unless he proves different, I think comparisons to the militance and ignorance of Farrell and Donal Og are uncalled for.
They are all part of the same organisation, surely they have similar goals and a similar endgame (pay for play), otherwise he would not be taking up this position. Just my take on things, could be wrong.
I dont know exactly why, but I'm very dissappointed in Cavanagh. He's his generations finest player and he'll always be associated with pay for play.
Quote from: Minder on November 07, 2008, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on November 07, 2008, 10:09:45 PM
perhaps there might. Unless he proves different, I think comparisons to the militance and ignorance of Farrell and Donal Og are uncalled for.
They are all part of the same organisation, surely they have similar goals and a similar endgame (pay for play), otherwise he would not be taking up this position. Just my take on things, could be wrong.
Isnt the issue that
most intercounty players are part of the association?
I know that there are exceptions, but I was of the aprehension that most intercounty players were GPA members.
I guess time will tell how he will be viewed - one only has to look at his interviews to see how ambitious he is.
Well club tyrone better make sure that they look after their players through the recession or the militancy might just come to the fore. Can see a few CB/County Team disputes this year as it would appear from Dessies speech that there getting ready to crank things up a bit
Quote from: thebandit on November 07, 2008, 10:28:05 PM
I dont know exactly why, but I'm very dissappointed in Cavanagh. He's his generations finest player and he'll always be associated with pay for play.
It's this crap that irks me most. The same dung was spouted 10 months ago along with 'I'll never set foot in...'. Yet the same fellas attended the same amount of games and shouted as loud as any this year. It made absolutely no difference and those who cried the sky would fall now look foolish IMO. Sean Cavanagh getting £2000 for winning an All-Ireland is laughable pittance and affects not a jot his effort for the Moy and Tyrone (and Ireland). Anyone who begrudges him that is simply that, a begrudger.
I don't like the way he looks like he's gonna cry all the time when someone puts a tackle on him... and he's fond of the diving.
Other than that he'll probably be the footballer of his generation but sure who cares about that!
He might be too smiley for the job. Then again, it could be a case of good cop bad cop for the GPA.
Quote from: Mickeys beard on November 07, 2008, 11:28:04 PM
He might be too smiley for the job. Then again, it could be a case of good cop bad cop for the GPA.
i don't think your avatar is favourable towards our 3-time All-Ireland winning manager and you've been reported.
So, we're in recession. Well done. Excellent observations.
The GPA have said that they will accept that we now live in a somewhat financial uncertainty and accept there will be cuts. However, if they see that Gaelic games have been affected more than other sports, they'll kick up a fuss.
I HAD huge respect for Cavanagh up until I heard this news. I believe him to be one of the best footballers of his generation and a great ambassador for the GAA (no i'm not from tyrone). Obviously the GPA see him as a great ambassador for them too.
I don't agree with the GPA agenda, pay for play or whatever you want to call it and for Cavanagh to be associated with it in such a high profile post is disappointing.
Quote from: ONeill on November 07, 2008, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: thebandit on November 07, 2008, 10:28:05 PM
I dont know exactly why, but I'm very dissappointed in Cavanagh. He's his generations finest player and he'll always be associated with pay for play.
It's this crap that irks me most. The same dung was spouted 10 months ago along with 'I'll never set foot in...'. Yet the same fellas attended the same amount of games and shouted as loud as any this year. It made absolutely no difference and those who cried the sky would fall now look foolish IMO. Sean Cavanagh getting £2000 for winning an All-Ireland is laughable pittance and affects not a jot his effort for the Moy and Tyrone (and Ireland). Anyone who begrudges him that is simply that, a begrudger.
You're totally wrong there O'Neill, I wasn't a 'I'll never set foot in' merchant. If you read the start of my comment properly I said
I don't know exactly why. Maybe its because I regarded Cavanagh as the embodiment of all that is good about the GAA. Strong, skilful and intelligent, and that the GPA is not that pure an organisation.
I do think the players should be rewarded, and have been involved in 'under the table' looking after of players in the past. I think what Sean Cavanagh has gotten from the GAA is worth far more than £2000 to him, and he has given a lifetime's worth of happiness and memories to his county and his sport. He owes us nothing, but I think Cavanagh might find that not everyone is involved in the GPA for the same reasons that he is.
I shout loudly at most games I go to. Thats because I devote hours and hours every week to coaching teams and doing whatever my club demands of me. I don't think I owe the GAA anything either. I certainly don't deserve my confused feelings on this subject to be shot down so loudly when I hadn't professed that strong an opinion. As I referred to, if you read the comment properly, you would have sensed the uncertainty. >:(
I don't care. The captain of Ireland and our biggest star of our best year ever, whatever. Looking forward to the Club Tyrone gig tomorrow night, and I'll applaud the lad, that's all he deserves.
First and formost, .. Sean cavanagh is one very genuine lad, i had the pleasure of meeting him after the Mckenna Cup final of 2004, [.Cormac's last time as tyrone Captain.] ........... he spent alot of time chatting and signing autographs with my kids .... a lovely personality and Sportsman.
I don't agree with the GPA. as it stands @ present, or more to the point Dessie Farrell ..... a total bollicks who is only interested, in my opinion bringing the gaa into the Professional Ranks @ the top Level, and to hell with Youth policy and our clubs .... the grassroots of the Gaa.
Sean Cavanagh i believe is a real Clubman @ heart ...... and if he can change mindsets from within the GPA. to bring everybody as one, from the grassroots up ....not an eletest club for top players.
Can't quite work it out.
I met Sean in Perth after the first test and like Kinkingmule said he is a very Genuine lad and put up with a lot of drunk chats with me for one. I spoke to a few players about the GPA and my fear that they want Pay for Play. Every player said they didn't want to be paid to play. what they wanted was to be "looked after". They wanted a voice within the Gaa Structure. The only Group looking after the players interests at the moment is the GPA. There is nothing within the current Structure that can provide this. If i wasn't as drunk i would have asked what exactly "looked after" meant. Fro speaking to those few players my anti-GPA stance has soften.
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on November 08, 2008, 04:10:31 AM
I met Sean in Perth after the first test and like Kinkingmule said he is a very Genuine lad and put up with a lot of drunk chats with me for one. I spoke to a few players about the GPA and my fear that they want Pay for Play. Every player said they didn't want to be paid to play. what they wanted was to be "looked after". They wanted a voice within the Gaa Structure. The only Group looking after the players interests at the moment is the GPA. There is nothing within the current Structure that can provide this. If i wasn't as drunk i would have asked what exactly "looked after" meant. Fro speaking to those few players my anti-GPA stance has soften.
What's the difference ?
Quote from: ONeill on November 07, 2008, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: thebandit on November 07, 2008, 10:28:05 PM
I dont know exactly why, but I'm very dissappointed in Cavanagh. He's his generations finest player and he'll always be associated with pay for play.
It's this crap that irks me most. The same dung was spouted 10 months ago along with 'I'll never set foot in...'. Yet the same fellas attended the same amount of games and shouted as loud as any this year. It made absolutely no difference and those who cried the sky would fall now look foolish IMO. Sean Cavanagh getting £2000 for winning an All-Ireland is laughable pittance and affects not a jot his effort for the Moy and Tyrone (and Ireland). Anyone who begrudges him that is simply that, a begrudger.
Didn't I read on the tyrone club thread that when Moy where knocked out of the championship he said it was a blessing in disguise or better in the long rub - something along those lines. What was that about?
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 08, 2008, 10:13:37 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 07, 2008, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: thebandit on November 07, 2008, 10:28:05 PM
I dont know exactly why, but I'm very dissappointed in Cavanagh. He's his generations finest player and he'll always be associated with pay for play.
It's this crap that irks me most. The same dung was spouted 10 months ago along with 'I'll never set foot in...'. Yet the same fellas attended the same amount of games and shouted as loud as any this year. It made absolutely no difference and those who cried the sky would fall now look foolish IMO. Sean Cavanagh getting £2000 for winning an All-Ireland is laughable pittance and affects not a jot his effort for the Moy and Tyrone (and Ireland). Anyone who begrudges him that is simply that, a begrudger.
Didn't I read on the tyrone club thread that when Moy where knocked out of the championship he said it was a blessing in disguise or better in the long rub - something along those lines. What was that about?
I rthink that comment was taken out of context if in fact it was said at all.
QuoteI rthink that comment was taken out of context if in fact it was said at all.
c'mon Orangeman, what's the line of defence? He didn't say it or it was taken out of context, you can't have both ;)
Eoin Larkin (Kilkenny) and Seán Cavanagh (Tyrone) have been announced as the Opel Gaelic Players of the Year for Hurling and Football for 2008 by the Gaelic Players Association at the GPA's Annual Gala and Awards evening at the Citywest Hotel.
Eoin Larkin and Seán Cavanagh won the accolades following a vote by the GPA membership after being shortlisted for the prize in October. Due to their outstanding performances throughout the GAA season, both players will receive a brand new Opel Astra worth approximately €25,000.
Commenting on the announcement, Dessie Farrell, Chief Executive of the Gaelic Players' Association said: 'Congratulations to Eoin and Seán who have received a ringing endorsement from their fellow players for their displays this year.
'Both men contributed enormously to their respective county's campaigns and were stand-out figures despite the stiff competition. 'Their pursuit of excellence as players was evident throughout the summer but, as always, they were part of a collective effort and we must acknowledge the role of the team when honouring the contribution of the individual.
'Sincere thanks to Opel for their commitment to players in 2008 and thanks to all the GPA members who voted for our award winners.'
The three nominees for the Opel Gaelic Player of the year for Hurling as chosen by the Hurling Selection Committee were: Eoin Larkin (Kilkenny), Eddie Brennan (Kilkenny) and Shane McGrath (Tipperary). The four nominations for the Opel Gaelic Player of the year for Football as chosen by the Football Selection Committee were: Seán Cavanagh (Tyrone), Brian Dooher (Tyrone), Tomas Ó Sé (Kerry) and Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry).
Other awards for 2008 announced by the GPA on Friday were:
GPA Player of the Tournament, Tommy Murphy Cup: Tony Hannon (Wicklow)
GPA Player of the Tournament, Christy Ring: Brendan Murtagh (Westmeath)
GPA Player of the Tournament, Nicky Rackard Cup: Keith Raymond (Sligo)
Quote from: kickingmule on November 08, 2008, 02:20:10 AM
First and formost, .. Sean cavanagh is one very genuine lad, i had the pleasure of meeting him after the Mckenna Cup final of 2004, [.Cormac's last time as tyrone Captain.] ........... he spent alot of time chatting and signing autographs with my kids .... a lovely personality and Sportsman.
I don't agree with the GPA. as it stands @ present, or more to the point Dessie Farrell ..... a total bollicks who is only interested, in my opinion bringing the gaa into the Professional Ranks @ the top Level, and to hell with Youth policy and our clubs .... the grassroots of the Gaa.
Sean Cavanagh i believe is a real Clubman @ heart ...... and if he can change mindsets from within the GPA. to bring everybody as one, from the grassroots up ....not an eletest club for top players.
Pretty much sums up my opinion of the whole thing mule.
So Cavanagh is going into the GPA to "change mindsets" and has no interest in pay for play? Yes i have got it now.
I would safely say that 95% of GPA members would not like Pay for Play.I really dunno where all the paranoia comes from as regards peoples suspision of the GPA.Pay for Play can and never will work in the GAA,it doesnt take a stupid man to cop that,let alone Inter-county players.Sean Cavanagh is the greatest footballer in the country at the moment and is seen as one of the most influential characters in the game,he has captained a successful Ireland team in Australia and won everything in the game but he accepts the job of secretary with the GPA and suddenly thats enough to blacken a mans name.Somethings not right there lads.
Maybe I have missed something(bar a quote from Dessie Farrell in 2004 or something like that) that shows that Dessie Farrell,Donal Og Cusack or any GPA member has come out and said that they want Pay for Play.
Does anybody have such evidence?
I was under the impression that cavanagh has been in the gpa for years?
why can you not be a gpa member and either 1- a real clubman at heart, or 2 - a member of the mystical "grassroots".
Quote from: thebandit on November 08, 2008, 01:09:13 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 07, 2008, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: thebandit on November 07, 2008, 10:28:05 PM
I dont know exactly why, but I'm very dissappointed in Cavanagh. He's his generations finest player and he'll always be associated with pay for play.
It's this crap that irks me most. The same dung was spouted 10 months ago along with 'I'll never set foot in...'. Yet the same fellas attended the same amount of games and shouted as loud as any this year. It made absolutely no difference and those who cried the sky would fall now look foolish IMO. Sean Cavanagh getting £2000 for winning an All-Ireland is laughable pittance and affects not a jot his effort for the Moy and Tyrone (and Ireland). Anyone who begrudges him that is simply that, a begrudger.
You're totally wrong there O'Neill, I wasn't a 'I'll never set foot in' merchant. If you read the start of my comment properly I said I don't know exactly why. Maybe its because I regarded Cavanagh as the embodiment of all that is good about the GAA. Strong, skilful and intelligent, and that the GPA is not that pure an organisation.
I do think the players should be rewarded, and have been involved in 'under the table' looking after of players in the past. I think what Sean Cavanagh has gotten from the GAA is worth far more than £2000 to him, and he has given a lifetime's worth of happiness and memories to his county and his sport. He owes us nothing, but I think Cavanagh might find that not everyone is involved in the GPA for the same reasons that he is.
I shout loudly at most games I go to. Thats because I devote hours and hours every week to coaching teams and doing whatever my club demands of me. I don't think I owe the GAA anything either. I certainly don't deserve my confused feelings on this subject to be shot down so loudly when I hadn't professed that strong an opinion. As I referred to, if you read the comment properly, you would have sensed the uncertainty. >:(
No sign of a reply?
Eh? Did you ask me something I needed to reply to?
I cannot really make sense of what you're saying to be honest. You think players should be rewarded but are disappointed in Cavanagh for becoming a secretary of the GPA which changes your perception of him slightly. That's just a bit fickle to me.
I also think it's a little insulting of you to suggest Cavanagh a member of the GPA for a different reason to others, whatever that means.
Quote from: thebandit on November 08, 2008, 01:09:13 AM
I think Cavanagh might find that not everyone is involved in the GPA for the same reasons that he is.
I think some of the GPA men dont necessarily have the best interests of the GAA as a whole at heart, and I would think that Cavanagh does.
If you are going to give me grief will you a least read my comments properly ::)
I read it exactly as it is, and it's insulting towards whoever it is. Who are these people you reckon don't have the interests of the GAA at heart?
Those who seek to seperate the elite from the grass roots. But I have the height of respect for Cavanagh, and he could turn out to be a unifying influence.
Quote from: thebandit on November 09, 2008, 11:41:11 PM
he could turn out to be a unifying influence.
I actually think he will.
Quote from: cornafean on November 10, 2008, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: thebandit on November 09, 2008, 11:41:11 PM
he could turn out to be a unifying influence.
I actually think he will.
if you stoip to think, that line of thinking is highly insulting to some of the finest gaels the association has amongst its membership
Quote from: The GAA on November 10, 2008, 10:42:43 AM
if you stoip to think, that line of thinking is highly insulting to some of the finest gaels the association has amongst its membership
Sorry, I haven't a clue who you mean?
Intercounty players are some of the best and most active members within the association in every aspect of the GAA. the inferrence here is that they are somehow inadequate, deviant or spoiling for a fight because they are members of a players union and that the mighty sean will put them all straight - even though sean has been an active gpa member for years himself.
Quote from: The GAA on November 10, 2008, 11:05:09 AM
Intercounty players are some of the best and most active members within the association in every aspect of the GAA. the inferrence here is that they are somehow inadequate, deviant or spoiling for a fight because they are members of a players union and that the mighty sean will put them all straight - even though sean has been an active gpa member for years himself.
Who made that inference? Of course Sean has been an active and outspoken GPA member for years. He seems to me to have good leadership qualities both on and off the field.
That is why I think he is ideally positioned to mend relations between the GPA and the GAA - relations that are undeniably strained, according to Dessie Farrell's statement last week. Of course that's only my opinion. I honestly can't see how it can be as insulting as you claim, unless you or others are anxious to be insulted.
Anyone else hear the rumours that theres serious changes afoot in the GPA.
Heard something at the weekend alright.... wouldn't say it here until I got some confirmation though.
What kind of "changes" ?
I'm assuming this isn't the Donal Og replacing Dessie rumour which has been doing the rounds for the past several months?