Boxing Thread

[Main Street]

The rte updater had katie ahead by 5-4  (one drawn) on the round by round assessment  yet was surprised when Katie was adjudged the winner. Go figure.

here are the judges marks

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8BT8TeX4AEqI9O.jpg

Whoever wins the later rounds always gives the best impression, but nicking the first is the very same as dominating the last. Frampton was some numpty calling it an "absolute disgrace". It was a tight fight that could have gone either way. I always find a good way to judge the decision is to take the majority view of the judge's scores on a round-by-round basis, which gives the following outcome:

1. KT
2. P
3. KT
4. KT
5. KT
6. KT
7. P
8. P
9. KT
10. P

So 6-4 for Katie.

Frampton called it 8-2 for Persoon 


One of the failings in this scoring system is that a boxer on the receiving end of a pummeling in a single round, still scores a 9  as long as a knockdown is avoided.

[Boycey]

A bigger flaw in my opinion is a reluctance to give a round 10/10, most of us watching will have a couple of rounds even while the judges seem to be intructed to find a winner in each round. Take Katie's fight last night not one of the judges saw fit to give a shared round which in a close fight is mindboggling

[marty34]

Boxing must be the only sport that nobody knows who is winning during it.

We have to wait to it's over to see who the winner is.  Very strange indeed!!

Spectators in gaa, soccer and athletics all know who is in the lead during the games etc.

Anybody think of any other sports where we don't have the score during the action?

[Main Street]

A bigger flaw in my opinion is a reluctance to give a round 10/10, most of us watching will have a couple of rounds even while the judges seem to be intructed to find a winner in each round. Take Katie's fight last night not one of the judges saw fit to give a shared round which in a close fight is mindboggling

That's not a flaw in the rules, the voting system allows for judge  to award a 10/10. However it's in the rules that as long as boxer stays standing, at least 9 points is awarded regardless.

[Boycey]

10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?

[Hound]

10-10 doesn't really exist. Except as a statistical anomaly. Check all online scorecards for big fights. 10-10 appears about 1 in 1000 times. I think it's only used if both fighters do nothing in a round. Otherwise judges are instructed to pick who did the best

[Hound]

Spewan saying that AJ gassing is proof he's doped up
And the judges were corrupted by Katie's team
He's some sc**bag for one sc**bag.

[nrico2006]

 UK heavyweights been at the top of late and like that all the belts are in US hands. Big Fury to sort that out soon hopefully.

[Main Street]

10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?

13.    Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu

[nrico2006]

10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?

13.    Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu

What did they officially score the 3rd? 9-7?

[Over the Bar]

Anyone else think that Joshua is too nice a guy and doesn't do enough to make the opponent fear him?  Like McGuigan he's not ruthless/agressive enough.  The likes of Hagler and Tyson had most opponents beaten before they got in the ring as they thought they might get their heads torn off such was the hatred/ conviction in their eyes.

[Wildweasel74]

Big Joshua about 12ib overweight..too muscle bound that why he runs out steam so quick. Serious questions to be asked about his chin. He clocking up Alot of knock downs. Ruiz out of shape. What he be like if he took his sport serious. Could lose 2-3stone and be a serious boxer.

[Main Street]

10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?

13.    Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu

What did they officially score the 3rd? 9-7?

Nope, each round is scored 10/9 or 9/10

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8BT8TeX4AEqI9O.jpg

[nrico2006]

10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?

13.    Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu

What did they officially score the 3rd? 9-7?

Nope, each round is scored 10/9 or 9/10

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8BT8TeX4AEqI9O.jpg

Meant in Joshua fight but I see it was given 10-8.

[oakleaflad]

A bigger flaw in my opinion is a reluctance to give a round 10/10, most of us watching will have a couple of rounds even while the judges seem to be intructed to find a winner in each round. Take Katie's fight last night not one of the judges saw fit to give a shared round which in a close fight is mindboggling

That's not a flaw in the rules, the voting system allows for judge  to award a 10/10. However it's in the rules that as long as boxer stays standing, at least 9 points is awarded regardless.

Unless the rule has changed recently 10-8 rounds can be given without a knockdown (a fighter completely dominates his opponent but the opponent doesn't go down).
It doesn't have to be 10-9, 10-8 etc. either. A round can be scored 9-8 for example if a fighter knocks down his opponent but also gets a point deducted.