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michaelg

Quote from: armaghniac on May 25, 2017, 09:37:24 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 25, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 25, 2017, 04:30:21 PM
Economic policy and polarisation are linked to terrorism.

In UK, it results from isolation, segregation of populations and ghettoisation and then thrives in these conditions.  With Jihadist terrorism, UK has allowed ghettoes to develop, white flight in Northern towns has segregated the population by heritage.  Without being able to mix, learn and live with all others, those of non-UK heritage develop a world view which is a polar opposite of those of UK heritage.  In such circumstances, those who want to radicalise others find it easier to do.  If you live in a world where no one challenges the orthodoxy of the community then a false narrative or a re-writing of the historical narrative is easily achieved.

The British are aware of this http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/05/fish-eaters-and-fasters
However, in their typical hypocritical way they are actively encouraging similar ghettos of unassimilated "British" people in this country.
You don't half talk a lot of shite.

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: armaghniac on May 25, 2017, 09:37:24 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 25, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 25, 2017, 04:30:21 PM
Economic policy and polarisation are linked to terrorism.

In UK, it results from isolation, segregation of populations and ghettoisation and then thrives in these conditions.  With Jihadist terrorism, UK has allowed ghettoes to develop, white flight in Northern towns has segregated the population by heritage.  Without being able to mix, learn and live with all others, those of non-UK heritage develop a world view which is a polar opposite of those of UK heritage.  In such circumstances, those who want to radicalise others find it easier to do.  If you live in a world where no one challenges the orthodoxy of the community then a false narrative or a re-writing of the historical narrative is easily achieved.

The British are aware of this http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/05/fish-eaters-and-fasters
However, in their typical hypocritical way they are actively encouraging similar ghettos of unassimilated "British" people in this country.

Sadly, I see no remedy to the polarisation by religion of the population in NI.  It has developed since the beginning of the Troubles and has been mapped by Stephen McCaffrey:

https://www.thedetail.tv/mapfiles/index.html

Until we begin to live and learn without the religious segregation that we have for much of the population in our towns the opportunities for continued radicalisation of the young will permeate, hence, we see the emergence of the dissident republicans and a continued development of loyalist paramilitarism.  Did the British encourage this polarisation for their own benefit?  I don't know.

armaghniac

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Quote from: michaelg on May 25, 2017, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 25, 2017, 09:37:24 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 25, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 25, 2017, 04:30:21 PM
Economic policy and polarisation are linked to terrorism.

In UK, it results from isolation, segregation of populations and ghettoisation and then thrives in these conditions.  With Jihadist terrorism, UK has allowed ghettoes to develop, white flight in Northern towns has segregated the population by heritage.  Without being able to mix, learn and live with all others, those of non-UK heritage develop a world view which is a polar opposite of those of UK heritage.  In such circumstances, those who want to radicalise others find it easier to do.  If you live in a world where no one challenges the orthodoxy of the community then a false narrative or a re-writing of the historical narrative is easily achieved.

The British are aware of this http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/05/fish-eaters-and-fasters
However, in their typical hypocritical way they are actively encouraging similar ghettos of unassimilated "British" people in this country.
You don't half talk a lot of shite.

You are at liberty to point out any errors in my logic if you wish and make a useful contribution for a change.

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 25, 2017, 10:10:45 PM

Sadly, I see no remedy to the polarisation by religion of the population in NI.  It has developed since the beginning of the Troubles and has been mapped by Stephen McCaffrey:

https://www.thedetail.tv/mapfiles/index.html

Until we begin to live and learn without the religious segregation that we have for much of the population in our towns the opportunities for continued radicalisation of the young will permeate, hence, we see the emergence of the dissident republicans and a continued development of loyalist paramilitarism.  Did the British encourage this polarisation for their own benefit?  I don't know.

NI is the embodiment of a ghetto, internal ghettoisation is the logical extension of its existence. Unfortunately, some elements of the present "deal" only aggravate the situation.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Avondhu star

Quote from: michaelg on May 25, 2017, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 25, 2017, 09:37:24 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 25, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 25, 2017, 04:30:21 PM
Economic policy and polarisation are linked to terrorism.

In UK, it results from isolation, segregation of populations and ghettoisation and then thrives in these conditions.  With Jihadist terrorism, UK has allowed ghettoes to develop, white flight in Northern towns has segregated the population by heritage.  Without being able to mix, learn and live with all others, those of non-UK heritage develop a world view which is a polar opposite of those of UK heritage.  In such circumstances, those who want to radicalise others find it easier to do.  If you live in a world where no one challenges the orthodoxy of the community then a false narrative or a re-writing of the historical narrative is easily achieved.

The British are aware of this http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/05/fish-eaters-and-fasters
However, in their typical hypocritical way they are actively encouraging similar ghettos of unassimilated "British" people in this country.
You don't half talk a lot of shite.
And if anyone knows about shite talk it's you
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you


screenexile

We're safe enough in the North anyway lads the Tele is on the case!!!




trueblue1234

T'was nice of them to do the tests to highlight that we'd be a soft touch.  ???
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

seafoid

The Americans dropped a bomb in Mosul in Iraq. It set off explosions in ISIS caches. The bombs destroyed a building
in which civilians were taking shelter. 100 civilians were killed. It is all rotten.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

magpie seanie

The Belfast Telegraph is a filthy rag.

Avondhu star

Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 26, 2017, 12:21:48 PM
T'was nice of them to do the tests to highlight that we'd be a soft touch.  ???

It was probably Islamic State that did the Carrick a Dede rope bridge
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

north_antrim_hound

Quote from: seafoid on May 26, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
The Americans dropped a bomb in Mosul in Iraq. It set off explosions in ISIS caches. The bombs destroyed a building
in which civilians were taking shelter. 100 civilians were killed. It is all rotten.

Read a bit where a Kurdish soldier ( Iraq army coalition against Isis ) said the USA and Britain don't care if they kill 200 civilians as long as they got one ISIS then that's a result
There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets

Rossfan

Ah sure once they're brown skinned and don't speak English then they don't count. ( To the Yanks, Brits etc)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 26, 2017, 12:54:23 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 26, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
The Americans dropped a bomb in Mosul in Iraq. It set off explosions in ISIS caches. The bombs destroyed a building
in which civilians were taking shelter. 100 civilians were killed. It is all rotten.

Read a bit where a Kurdish soldier ( Iraq army coalition against Isis ) said the USA and Britain don't care if they kill 200 civilians as long as they got one ISIS then that's a result
Muslims do care though.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

trueblue1234

Quote from: Avondhu star on May 26, 2017, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 26, 2017, 12:21:48 PM
T'was nice of them to do the tests to highlight that we'd be a soft touch.  ???

It was probably Islamic State that did the Carrick a Dede rope bridge

Whereas we're all for building bridges over here.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

haranguerer