David Clifford

Started by JimStynes, August 21, 2017, 08:09:46 AM

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rrhf

Quote from: BuzzCagney on July 17, 2023, 12:07:49 AM
Clifford in his short time is becoming one of the greats. Unmarkable and outstanding display today.
Fine player.. could end up as one of the best

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 17, 2023, 12:10:02 AM
Derry made it easy by not having someone in front of him, like Tyrone did.

And how did that workout?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

toby47

Another weekend for David Clifford.

Won his 5th All Star
Won his 2nd POTY
Scored 0-12 in county final

He will also get a good break now, which should benefit him hugely in the long term.

Wildweasel74

The way Tyrone played him was right, let the other Kerry players win the game if they were good enough, Dublin showed in the final that only O'Shea, and Clifford 2, could provide support. Derry failing was a average sub bench up front, and 2 starting forwards never bringing anything in the scoring dept up front. If Derry don't remedy this, it be the same again nxt year.

JoG2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2023, 09:16:43 PMThe way Tyrone played him was right, let the other Kerry players win the game if they were good enough, Dublin showed in the final that only O'Shea, and Clifford 2, could provide support. Derry failing was a average sub bench up front, and 2 starting forwards never bringing anything in the scoring dept up front. If Derry don't remedy this, it be the same again nxt year.

Incorrect... Our 'failing' after, winning back to back Ulster's, was 2 fine footballers taking the wrong options at key moments in the home stretch against Kerry.

Armagh18

Quote from: JoG2 on November 20, 2023, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2023, 09:16:43 PMThe way Tyrone played him was right, let the other Kerry players win the game if they were good enough, Dublin showed in the final that only O'Shea, and Clifford 2, could provide support. Derry failing was a average sub bench up front, and 2 starting forwards never bringing anything in the scoring dept up front. If Derry don't remedy this, it be the same again nxt year.

Incorrect... Our 'failing' after, winning back to back Ulster's, was 2 fine footballers taking the wrong options at key moments in the home stretch against Kerry.
Failing to beat Kerry, don't think it was meant as a dig tbh.

JoG2

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 20, 2023, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 20, 2023, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2023, 09:16:43 PMThe way Tyrone played him was right, let the other Kerry players win the game if they were good enough, Dublin showed in the final that only O'Shea, and Clifford 2, could provide support. Derry failing was a average sub bench up front, and 2 starting forwards never bringing anything in the scoring dept up front. If Derry don't remedy this, it be the same again nxt year.

Incorrect... Our 'failing' after, winning back to back Ulster's, was 2 fine footballers taking the wrong options at key moments in the home stretch against Kerry.
Failing to beat Kerry, don't think it was meant as a dig tbh.


WW is v hard to please, surprising considering how much the team has progressed / achieved these last few years

NotedObserver

Quote from: JoG2 on November 20, 2023, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 20, 2023, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 20, 2023, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2023, 09:16:43 PMThe way Tyrone played him was right, let the other Kerry players win the game if they were good enough, Dublin showed in the final that only O'Shea, and Clifford 2, could provide support. Derry failing was a average sub bench up front, and 2 starting forwards never bringing anything in the scoring dept up front. If Derry don't remedy this, it be the same again nxt year.

Incorrect... Our 'failing' after, winning back to back Ulster's, was 2 fine footballers taking the wrong options at key moments in the home stretch against Kerry.
Failing to beat Kerry, don't think it was meant as a dig tbh.


WW is v hard to please, surprising considering how much the team has progressed / achieved these last few years

Kerry showed up for 20 mins in the second half and beat them

JoG2

Quote from: NotedObserver on November 20, 2023, 10:12:48 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 20, 2023, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 20, 2023, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 20, 2023, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2023, 09:16:43 PMThe way Tyrone played him was right, let the other Kerry players win the game if they were good enough, Dublin showed in the final that only O'Shea, and Clifford 2, could provide support. Derry failing was a average sub bench up front, and 2 starting forwards never bringing anything in the scoring dept up front. If Derry don't remedy this, it be the same again nxt year.

Incorrect... Our 'failing' after, winning back to back Ulster's, was 2 fine footballers taking the wrong options at key moments in the home stretch against Kerry.
Failing to beat Kerry, don't think it was meant as a dig tbh.


WW is v hard to please, surprising considering how much the team has progressed / achieved these last few years

Kerry showed up for 20 mins in the second half and beat them

Quote from: NotedObserver on November 20, 2023, 10:12:48 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 20, 2023, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 20, 2023, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 20, 2023, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2023, 09:16:43 PMThe way Tyrone played him was right, let the other Kerry players win the game if they were good enough, Dublin showed in the final that only O'Shea, and Clifford 2, could provide support. Derry failing was a average sub bench up front, and 2 starting forwards never bringing anything in the scoring dept up front. If Derry don't remedy this, it be the same again nxt year.

Incorrect... Our 'failing' after, winning back to back Ulster's, was 2 fine footballers taking the wrong options at key moments in the home stretch against Kerry.
Failing to beat Kerry, don't think it was meant as a dig tbh.


WW is v hard to please, surprising considering how much the team has progressed / achieved these last few years

Kerry showed up for 20 mins in the second half and beat them

And 10 mins in the quarters

toby47

In 57 games for Kerry, East Kerry, Fossa and UL since the beginning of 2022, David Clifford's scoring tally comes to 29-305. 24-178 from play

tonto1888

Quote from: toby47 on November 20, 2023, 10:43:14 PMIn 57 games for Kerry, East Kerry, Fossa and UL since the beginning of 2022, David Clifford's scoring tally comes to 29-305. 24-178 from play

thats some going

imtommygunn

I was watching the highlights of that intermediate final last night. Tbh they should be kicking themselves losing that as the boy who did that run at the end to setup the opposition goal should never have got away with the run he did. Not that I support Fossa but you would almost want to see a boy like that win the full complement of medals - junior , intermediate and senior.

Estimator

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2023, 09:16:43 PMThe way Tyrone played him was right, let the other Kerry players win the game if they were good enough, Dublin showed in the final that only O'Shea, and Clifford 2, could provide support. Derry failing was a average sub bench up front, and 2 starting forwards never bringing anything in the scoring dept up front. If Derry don't remedy this, it be the same again nxt year.

Clifford scored 0-5 (3f and 1m) against Tyrone. Think he had another 5 shots at goal. He hit one off the post that he should've scored, and had another correctly ruled out by hawk eye (over the post), though again he should really have scored.  He'd another 3 shots, two wide and one dropped short. And off the two wides, you'd actually expect him to score, even if they were from more difficult angles. The one that dropped short was very poor. 
If he had knocked over the two easy ones, and Clifford walked away with 7pts, (3 from play) would you have said that Tyrone played him right, including his overall contribution during the game?
Ulster League Champions 2009

Armagh18

Just remember him that day not being at his best. (An off day for him is 5* performance for most forwards) But he had that unreal but of skill out on the sideline to create the goal

Goals_Will_Come

Is Conor Glass the most impactful player in the GAA? Not a better player but more impactful on his team.
Is his contribution to Glen and Derry greater than what Clifford has brought to Kerry and Fossa?