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Title: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: bennydorano on October 13, 2017, 10:11:28 AM
Marie Conlon: Man charged with theft and fraud offences - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41606401

Strange one this, something not right about it. 3 years, no work colleagues, social services sticking their noses in, no social media interaction for 3 years in this day and age is bound to be another red flag.

Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
"Her family said they were "shocked and heartbroken" to learn of her death"

WTF!!!
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
"Her family said they were "shocked and heartbroken" to learn of her death"

WTF!!!

Their full statement:

Ms Conlon's family said in a statement they were "shocked and heartbroken to learn about the loss of our beloved sister".

"The tragic circumstances of her death make it all the more difficult to comprehend and accept," they added.

"Marie was very much loved by her family and will be mourned greatly.

"She was a very independent person. Numerous attempts had been made to contact her in person, and by other means, over the course of the past two years, but at no point were suspicions raised that she had died.

"It is only with hindsight that the unimaginable now seems possible.

"We have been working closely with the PSNI to bring this devastating situation to an end.

"We hope and pray that justice will be done and ask for privacy as we grieve the loss of our sister."


Sinn Fein MLA Alex Maskey said Ms Conlon came from a close-knit family in the Ballymurphy area of west Belfast.

"It's very sad a person has ended their days in this nature and I know the family have been quite distressed by it all," he added.

"It's like a double trauma. Not only have they lost a sister and aunt, but there may also have been a murder involved. Your heart goes out to them.

"Given the fact it's such a close-knit family, it will be particularly sad as they haven't seen her for quite a while, even though they wanted to."
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Minder on October 13, 2017, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 13, 2017, 10:11:28 AM
I Marie Conlon: Man charged with theft and fraud offences - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41606401

Strange one this, something not right about it. 3 years, no work colleagues, social services sticking their noses in, no social media interaction for 3 years in this day and age is bound to be another red flag.

Think she was 68 so would probably rule out work colleagues, but yeah it's strange and doesent reflect well on the family
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 10:29:34 AM
It's a sad indictment of modern society particularly in urban areas where we may know little about our neighbours and people are much more transient with little or no notice paid to people disappearing or not being seen around.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/marie-conlon-man-arrested-in-connection-with-death-of-pensioner-no-longer-murder-suspect-36222100.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/marie-conlon-man-arrested-in-connection-with-death-of-pensioner-no-longer-murder-suspect-36222100.html)
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: TabClear on October 13, 2017, 11:12:42 AM
Sounds like a tragic case. Really strange statement by the family.

Off topic but on the same day a murder case has been launched for the young mother who was killed in a car crash in Fermanagh last week.

http://www.impartialreporter.com/news/15591784.40_year_man_arrested_as_police_launch_murder_investigation_following_death_of_Natasha_Carruthers/

Awful tragedy.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: MoChara on October 13, 2017, 11:46:54 AM
perhaps I'm twisted but my first thoughts were, where were her pension and possible benefits payments going.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: bennydorano on October 13, 2017, 12:18:56 PM
Was thinking something similar myself. I'd be surprised if there's not further revelations from this story.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Orior on October 13, 2017, 12:23:06 PM
Sounds like the guy who was arrested was just an 'innocent' burglar?
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Minder on October 13, 2017, 12:59:06 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 13, 2017, 11:46:54 AM
perhaps I'm twisted but my first thoughts were, where were her pension and possible benefits payments going.

Pension would just be paid directly into her account I would have thought, no giros or pension books anymore afaik
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: bennydorano on October 13, 2017, 01:11:27 PM
Could have robbed the card & pin number, 3 years of free money.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 13, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
Not often you hear of a road death being talked of as a murder.
It seems strange.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
"Her family said they were "shocked and heartbroken" to learn of her death"

WTF!!!
Sinn Fein MLA Alex Maskey said Ms Conlon came from a close-knit family in the Ballymurphy area of west Belfast.



"Given the fact it's such a close-knit family, it will be particularly sad as they haven't seen her for quite a while, even though they wanted to."

Very close-knit! This one is sure to get messy for someone.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: TabClear on October 13, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 13, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
Not often you hear of a road death being talked of as a murder.
It seems strange.

That's what I thought as well. Obviously more to it but such a tragic loss for the family
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Avondhu star on October 13, 2017, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
"Her family said they were "shocked and heartbroken" to learn of her death"

WTF!!!
Sinn Fein MLA Alex Maskey said Ms Conlon came from a close-knit family in the Ballymurphy area of west Belfast.



"Given the fact it's such a close-knit family, it will be particularly sad as they haven't seen her for quite a while, even though they wanted to."

Very close-knit! This one is sure to get messy for someone.
More weasel words from Masked who can't help talking shite as soon as a microphone is put in front of him
Close knit FFS
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on October 13, 2017, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
"Her family said they were "shocked and heartbroken" to learn of her death"

WTF!!!
Sinn Fein MLA Alex Maskey said Ms Conlon came from a close-knit family in the Ballymurphy area of west Belfast.



"Given the fact it's such a close-knit family, it will be particularly sad as they haven't seen her for quite a while, even though they wanted to."

Very close-knit! This one is sure to get messy for someone.
More weasel words from Masked who can't help talking shite as soon as a microphone is put in front of him
Close knit FFS
I know, of all the things to come out with he refers to a close knit family who were so close knit they didn't bother getting access to the house. A normal family in a normal society would have the door off its hinges within a couple of weeks of no contact with a family member.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Orior on October 13, 2017, 06:45:41 PM
Quote from: TabClear on October 13, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 13, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
Not often you hear of a road death being talked of as a murder.
It seems strange.

That's what I thought as well. Obviously more to it but such a tragic loss for the family

Was there a second vehicle involved, or had someone tampered with the vehicle, or perhaps harmed her before she got into the car?
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 07:10:27 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 13, 2017, 06:45:41 PM
Quote from: TabClear on October 13, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 13, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
Not often you hear of a road death being talked of as a murder.
It seems strange.

That's what I thought as well. Obviously more to it but such a tragic loss for the family

Was there a second vehicle involved, or had someone tampered with the vehicle, or perhaps harmed her before she got into the car?

Yesterday they were looking for a second vehicle.  Must have got the details from the two seriously injured passengers when they had made some recovery.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Puckoon on October 13, 2017, 07:24:46 PM
There was a news report/headline this morning that she may have been rammed.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Gold on October 13, 2017, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on October 13, 2017, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
"Her family said they were "shocked and heartbroken" to learn of her death"

WTF!!!
Sinn Fein MLA Alex Maskey said Ms Conlon came from a close-knit family in the Ballymurphy area of west Belfast.



"Given the fact it's such a close-knit family, it will be particularly sad as they haven't seen her for quite a while, even though they wanted to."

Very close-knit! This one is sure to get messy for someone.
More weasel words from Masked who can't help talking shite as soon as a microphone is put in front of him
Close knit FFS
I know, of all the things to come out with he refers to a close knit family who were so close knit they didn't bother getting access to the house. A normal family in a normal society would have the door off its hinges within a couple of weeks of no contact with a family member.

I know what a f**king idiot

Absolute weird case
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Over the Bar on October 13, 2017, 11:24:26 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on October 13, 2017, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
"Her family said they were "shocked and heartbroken" to learn of her death"

WTF!!!
Sinn Fein MLA Alex Maskey said Ms Conlon came from a close-knit family in the Ballymurphy area of west Belfast.



"Given the fact it's such a close-knit family, it will be particularly sad as they haven't seen her for quite a while, even though they wanted to."

Very close-knit! This one is sure to get messy for someone.
More weasel words from Masked who can't help talking shite as soon as a microphone is put in front of him
Close knit FFS

So what else would you expect an MLA to say ffs?  If it's there's an unproven suggestion / suspicion they've  been creaming benefits and the family have made a statement to say "we wanted to visit her more in the past 2 years but couldn't for x, y and z difficulties...." then he has to keep press interviews pretty diplomatic given that a lady has died.  Do you expect him to say that in his view the family obviously didn't give a shit?   ::)
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: T Fearon on October 14, 2017, 12:17:05 AM
Natural reaction,close knit family,last place you'd expect it to happen blah blah.

Looks like a 23 year old has been charged with her murder and concealing her death.Sounds as if he was known to her,possibly a family relative? Only heard of anything remotely like this once before in my life time.Guy was called Norman Bates
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2017, 12:32:00 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on October 13, 2017, 11:24:26 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on October 13, 2017, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
"Her family said they were "shocked and heartbroken" to learn of her death"

WTF!!!
Sinn Fein MLA Alex Maskey said Ms Conlon came from a close-knit family in the Ballymurphy area of west Belfast.



"Given the fact it's such a close-knit family, it will be particularly sad as they haven't seen her for quite a while, even though they wanted to."

Very close-knit! This one is sure to get messy for someone.
More weasel words from Masked who can't help talking shite as soon as a microphone is put in front of him
Close knit FFS

So what else would you expect an MLA to say ffs?  If it's there's an unproven suggestion / suspicion they've  been creaming benefits and the family have made a statement to say "we wanted to visit her more in the past 2 years but couldn't for x, y and z difficulties...." then he has to keep press interviews pretty diplomatic given that a lady has died.  Do you expect him to say that in his view the family obviously didn't give a shit?   ::)
No but you can enough without saying too much and certainly not saying they were a "close-knit family". He hasn't the brains to choose his words carefully. If any body is good at talking around a subject it's the Shinners.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Gold on October 14, 2017, 12:39:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 13, 2017, 11:32:17 PM
I agree. Even in close knit families, there can always be one member out on their own.
And I think that was his point. Although 50 of them live in each other's shadow, it's particularly sad that she was out on her own, for whatever reason.

Theres being out on your own and theres not being seen nor heard of in 3 years....mad case

Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: StGallsGAA on October 14, 2017, 12:53:12 AM
Quote
Theres being out on your own and theres not being seen nor heard of in 3 years....mad case

On that note, has anyone checked in on the Down senior footballers recently??
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: angermanagement on October 14, 2017, 12:57:44 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 14, 2017, 12:17:05 AM
Natural reaction,close knit family,last place you'd expect it to happen blah blah.

Looks like a 23 year old has been charged with her murder and concealing her death.Sounds as if he was known to her,possibly a family relative? Only heard of anything remotely like this once before in my life time.Guy was called Norman Bates

He wasn't charged with murder, he's got charged with theft, fraud and preventing the lawful burial of a body.

He's already been released and is out and about in Belfast tonight.



Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: T Fearon on October 14, 2017, 08:12:43 AM
Fraud,can only be collection of pension etc.My guess is that this guy was well known to the woman,a relative even.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Dougal Maguire on October 14, 2017, 08:35:47 AM
Jesus there's some crap on this thread. Uninformed speculation, factually incorrect statements etc. Some people here really do need to cop themselves on.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: StGallsGAA on October 14, 2017, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on October 14, 2017, 08:35:47 AM
Jesus there's some crap on this thread. Uninformed speculation, factually incorrect statements etc. Some people here really do need to cop themselves on.

If he's been charged with fraud it's barely speculation to suggest fraud !
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Mourne Rover on October 15, 2017, 12:19:56 AM
StGallsGAA
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Theres being out on your own and theres not being seen nor heard of in 3 years....mad case

On that note, has anyone checked in on the Down senior footballers recently??
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Is this an Antrim supporter looking forward to life in division four and suggesting that Down, a division one team in 2016 and Ulster finalists in 2017, have underachieved over the last couple of years ?
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Dougal Maguire on October 15, 2017, 12:50:29 AM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on October 14, 2017, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on October 14, 2017, 08:35:47 AM
Jesus there's some crap on this thread. Uninformed speculation, factually incorrect statements etc. Some people here really do need to cop themselves on.

If he's been charged with fraud it's barely speculation to suggest fraud !
I mean some of the earlier stuff, speculation about murder,insinuations about family, neighbours etc. With no knowledge of the facts, that's what I was referring to.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: StGallsGAA on October 15, 2017, 12:53:22 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 15, 2017, 12:29:13 AM
No. StGallsGAA is a Tyrone man. The sooner people understand this, the less abuse our poor county will get.
+1
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: T Fearon on October 15, 2017, 08:38:57 AM
The fact is a woman lay dead in her own home unnoticed  for almost three years,and none of her family,who lived in close proximity knew.If that fact isn't grounds for speculation and questioning the nature of her family,I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: an léirmheastóir on October 15, 2017, 10:31:54 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 15, 2017, 08:38:57 AM
The fact is a woman lay dead in her own home unnoticed  for almost three years,and none of her family,who lived in close proximity knew.If that fact isn't grounds for speculation and questioning the nature of her family,I don't know what is.

They are a close knit family who are shocked at this
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: T Fearon on October 16, 2017, 04:09:43 PM
A close knit family would surely not allow the death of one of its members,who lived in the locality,go unnoticed for nearly three years
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: StGallsGAA on October 16, 2017, 06:38:31 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 16, 2017, 04:09:43 PM
A close knit family would surely not allow the death of one of its members,who lived in the locality,go unnoticed for nearly three years

I dunno Tone, you'd have to be pretty close knit to keep something like that quiet and still pocket the weekly giros?
Title: Re: Belfast Murder Victim lay undiscovered for 3 years
Post by: Avondhu star on October 17, 2017, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on October 13, 2017, 11:24:26 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on October 13, 2017, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 13, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
"Her family said they were "shocked and heartbroken" to learn of her death"

WTF!!!
Sinn Fein MLA Alex Maskey said Ms Conlon came from a close-knit family in the Ballymurphy area of west Belfast.



"Given the fact it's such a close-knit family, it will be particularly sad as they haven't seen her for quite a while, even though they wanted to."

Very close-knit! This one is sure to get messy for someone.
More weasel words from Masked who can't help talking shite as soon as a microphone is put in front of him
Close knit FFS

So what else would you expect an MLA to say ffs?  If it's there's an unproven suggestion / suspicion they've  been creaming benefits and the family have made a statement to say "we wanted to visit her more in the past 2 years but couldn't for x, y and z difficulties...." then he has to keep press interviews pretty diplomatic given that a lady has died.  Do you expect him to say that in his view the family obviously didn't give a shit?   ::)

Did the gobshite have to say anything at all? So full of his own shite he actually thinks people wants to hear him