Antrim Football Thread

[GTP]

Video on Jerome Quinns and St Paul's twitter. It looks like a very poor decision to give a foul.

The foul where the goal keeper takes out the player?

Give your head a wobble

Is that tackle a free on any part of the pitch?

I have wobbled my head a little. And in my opinion the keeper makes a save and the attacker's momentum takes him over the opposition player. I appreciate you  would know the rules better than me but a block (or save) followed by a collision does not look like a free to me.

[Milltown Row2]

Video on Jerome Quinns and St Paul's twitter. It looks like a very poor decision to give a foul.

The foul where the goal keeper takes out the player?

Give your head a wobble

Is that tackle a free on any part of the pitch?

I have wobbled my head a little. And in my opinion the keeper makes a save and the attacker's momentum takes him over the opposition player. I appreciate you  would know the rules better than me but a block (or save) followed by a collision does not look like a free to me.

So outside the square a player carry's that out, the ref would in most cases say,  play on?

It's a foul, and if in the square it's a penalty.

[GTP]

I think the keeper made a save and the collision was not a foul. Obviously you feel different as did the referee. The ref only gets one look at it from whatever angle and distance away he happens to be. I'm sure the decision to award the penalty was based on a genuine belief it was a foul but I happen to disagree.
Maybe innocentbystander will re-enter the discussion since they asked your opinion and stated the decision was "absolutely awful".

[Milltown Row2]

I think the keeper made a save and the collision was not a foul. Obviously you feel different as did the referee. The ref only gets one look at it from whatever angle and distance away he happens to be. I'm sure the decision to award the penalty was based on a genuine belief it was a foul but I happen to disagree.
Maybe innocentbystander will re-enter the discussion since they asked your opinion and stated the decision was "absolutely awful".

If players are carrying out that tackle out the pitch it's a foul every time.

Not one player complains to the ref either

[Milltown Row2]

Where was the foul?
Looks like he just plays the ball with his hands.

For me he catches player first, that's a foul, it's not a bad foul but I've watched it a couple of times and it hasn't changed how I'd call it

[Milltown Row2]

What do you mean by "catches"? Touches?
I don't see that he does but IF he does it's completely incidental and certainly not deliberate.
He goes straight for the ball and plays it.

Whether it's incidental or accidental, if you play the player and not ball first it's a foul.

[Milltown Row2]

Is that in the rules?

He's impeded a player or made contact with a player..

You can accidentally bring a player down and it's still a free, deliberately bring him down it's a black card. In this case, for me, it's a foul, if I see that tackle on any part of the pitch it's a foul, a clumsy bad timed one.

 Certainly no malice in it

[GTP]

"brilliant piece of brave goalkeeping, perfectly executed"
"Huge call for the penalty. Looked like 'keeper Karl Campbell did everything right."
Quotes from two Derry based journalists  from twitter.
And good to see that the players didn't  question the decision it wouldn't have changed it and referees don't need it.
They get enough abuse online.

[Milltown Row2]

No then...
I don't see how you can say he has impeded him.
IF he has made any contact with the attacker, it is minimal non-deliberate contact as he plays the ball. That is not prohibited in the rules. Brushing past someone's hand as you knock the ball away is not a foul.

What contact is allowed in GAA?

[Milltown Row2]

Incidental contact and shoulder charge.

The only contact allowed is shoulder to shoulder.

If a player incidentally takes a player down, going in on goal (in this case) it's a penalty

[Milltown Row2]

Incidental contact and shoulder charge.

The only contact allowed is shoulder to shoulder.

If a player incidentally takes a player down, going in on goal (in this case) it's a penalty

That didn't happen.

What you saw was a not a foul, I seen a foul.

That said, with your knowledge you'd make a decent ref, if we'd more keen like you we'd have less mistakes in games

[Milltown Row2]

People will always make mistakes in games. Players & officials. That's never going to change.

Accepting them is a great step forward though.

Yeah reflection is great. But every time I see that, it's a foul from that view, The ref puts himself in a position to make that call, the player in this case, made a clumsy attempt and left a call to be made or not.

I'd like to see it from the keepers position though, that would give you clear idea on contact

[Milltown Row2]

I entered the discussion with the question "where's the foul?"

I don't think I've had an answer to that. What are you seeing?

You say it's clumsy. It's perhaps unorthodox and he's stretching but he's executed it well within the rulebook.
You previously said that it was badly timed. I couldn't disagree more with that. The timing is exceptional.

I've said already he gets man first in my view.. I've watched it 3 or 4 times... each time he get man then ball.

He's left the ref to make a decision and he has..

If I didn't give that in a game there would be some gurning

[SaffronSports]

Had a look at it there and obviously the angles not brilliant but it looks to me like the goalkeeper gets his hands on the ball between the player releasing the ball from his hands and kicking it with his foot. Brave goalkeeping and not a foul as I see it but a better angle may tell a different story.

[Milltown Row2]

I entered the discussion with the question "where's the foul?"

I don't think I've had an answer to that. What are you seeing?

You say it's clumsy. It's perhaps unorthodox and he's stretching but he's executed it well within the rulebook.
You previously said that it was badly timed. I couldn't disagree more with that. The timing is exceptional.

I've said already he gets man first in my view.. I've watched it 3 or 4 times... each time he get man then ball.

He's left the ref to make a decision and he has..

If I didn't give that in a game there would be some gurning

What part of the attacker do you see that initial contact?
I'm not seeing it at all.

When I watched it first time, I called foul, that's the only way you can.

As I've watched it 4 times now, I'm not really changing my view on it.

Give me a different view and I'll review that