Ulster Senior football championship 2024

[Cavan19]

It's odd isn't it?

Every single last person involved in sport knows that protracted knockout competitions are a steaming pile of dung until the element of jeopardy arrives.

And yet all around Ireland, all around the world, we keep introducing and extending these formats.

Other sports can at least use professionalism and a need for paying spectators as their excuse.

We cannot.

How much do the spectators get paid>?

[Armagh18]

I don't want group games at all but if you have then you need to prelim qf so that teams that lose their first 2 games have something to play for.

[thewobbler]

It's odd isn't it?

Every single last person involved in sport knows that protracted knockout competitions are a steaming pile of dung until the element of jeopardy arrives.

And yet all around Ireland, all around the world, we keep introducing and extending these formats.

Other sports can at least use professionalism and a need for paying spectators as their excuse.

We cannot.

Well considering 85% approx of money generated filters down to the clubs, we all win?

Where's that figure coming from?

HQ is clearly contributing to player injury insurance. And it pays for the IT infrastructure (Foireann).

But I did a 5 year stretch as a treasurer until recently. And i don't actually recall a direct benefit coming from HQ during that time.

Was I filling in the wrong forms?

[Armagh18]

It's odd isn't it?

Every single last person involved in sport knows that protracted knockout competitions are a steaming pile of dung until the element of jeopardy arrives.

And yet all around Ireland, all around the world, we keep introducing and extending these formats.

Other sports can at least use professionalism and a need for paying spectators as their excuse.

We cannot.

Well considering 85% approx of money generated filters down to the clubs, we all win?

Where's that figure coming from?

HQ is clearly contributing to player injury insurance. And it pays for the IT infrastructure (Foireann).

But I did a 5 year stretch as a treasurer until recently. And i don't actually recall a direct benefit coming from HQ during that time.

Was I filling in the wrong forms?

Jarlath Burns interview the other day he said 83cent/penny of every pound/euro the gaa make goes back to clubs. No idea if thats accurate or where the money is seen!

[JoG2]

It's odd isn't it?

Every single last person involved in sport knows that protracted knockout competitions are a steaming pile of dung until the element of jeopardy arrives.

And yet all around Ireland, all around the world, we keep introducing and extending these formats.

Other sports can at least use professionalism and a need for paying spectators as their excuse.

We cannot.

Well considering 85% approx of money generated filters down to the clubs, we all win?

Where's that figure coming from?

HQ is clearly contributing to player injury insurance. And it pays for the IT infrastructure (Foireann).

But I did a 5 year stretch as a treasurer until recently. And i don't actually recall a direct benefit coming from HQ during that time.

Was I filling in the wrong forms?

Jarly snr in an interview a week or two ago

[Rossfan]

Ahh it's just the "Nordies against change" bellyaching again.

The move from 21 aside to 17 aside was the start of the slippery slope I tell ya.

[tbrick18]

Ahh it's just the "Nordies against change" bellyaching again.

The move from 21 aside to 17 aside was the start of the slippery slope I tell ya.

I am one "Nordie" who has no issue with change - but change the things that are not working.
Ulster Championship works - so why change it? (Antrim/Fermanagh might disagree granted)
Change what needs to be changed in other provinces to improve their championship.
Personally I don't like the group stages and didn't like the Super 8s.
Revert to back door maybe, but like I've said before, there's no magic solution for it all.

[JoG2]

Ahh it's just the "Nordies against change" bellyaching again.

The move from 21 aside to 17 aside was the start of the slippery slope I tell ya.

It has been zero days since the Freestarters were last at it

[Itchy]

It's odd isn't it?

Every single last person involved in sport knows that protracted knockout competitions are a steaming pile of dung until the element of jeopardy arrives.

And yet all around Ireland, all around the world, we keep introducing and extending these formats.

Other sports can at least use professionalism and a need for paying spectators as their excuse.

We cannot.

Well considering 85% approx of money generated filters down to the clubs, we all win?

Where's that figure coming from?

HQ is clearly contributing to player injury insurance. And it pays for the IT infrastructure (Foireann).

But I did a 5 year stretch as a treasurer until recently. And i don't actually recall a direct benefit coming from HQ during that time.

Was I filling in the wrong forms?

Jarlath Burns interview the other day he said 83cent/penny of every pound/euro the gaa make goes back to clubs. No idea if thats accurate or where the money is seen!

I would say that's a steaming pile of dung. I don't remember our club getting anything from GAA so maybe Jarlath can elaborate. Even on grants its all from government

[Rossfan]

Not sure how you improve the Championships in the other Provinces...I presume you mean Leinster and Munster? As we Westies aren't doing too bad and hopefully Sligo on the rise.
Munster has 5 Hurley Counties so Kerry will usually saunter through but get a challenge from occasionally good Cork teams.
Only issue is which will come first Kerry's 100th or Cork's 50th.
Leinster is 3 training spins for Dublin as they chase their 19th in 20 years.....

Virtually all team sports have group and knock out stages so good to see the GAA following suit.

[Armagh18]

Not sure how you improve the Championships in the other Provinces...I presume you mean Leinster and Munster? As we Westies aren't doing too bad and hopefully Sligo on the rise.
Munster has 5 Hurley Counties so Kerry will usually saunter through but get a challenge from occasionally good Cork teams.
Only issue is which will come first Kerry's 100th or Cork's 50th.
Leinster is 3 training spins for Dublin as they chase their 19th in 20 years.....

Virtually all team sports have group and knock out stages so good to see the GAA following suit.

Other Leinster counties are a disgrace so no point giving out about Dublin until their houses are in order. Cork if they get the finger out can challenge Kerry.

[Eire90]

having only two teams that can realistically win a province is still not good enough imo if the munster switch beetween cork and kerry each year it still be boring.

[Armagh18]

having only two teams that can realistically win a province is still not good enough imo if the munster switch beetween cork and kerry each year it still be boring.

Well its better than only Kerry. Given football is the poor relation in most of Munster it's what you're going to get. Look at soccer. For the last 30 years it's been United+1 with a realistic chance or else City+1 more recently.

[Tones]

I don't want group games at all but if you have then you need to prelim qf so that teams that lose their first 2 games have something to play for.

Talk about rewarding failure,if you lose your first two games in a 3 game format don't let door hit you on the way out. This is the issue one of 3 counties are going win Sam but give the rest loads of game to give them a warm fuzzy feeling.

[Armagh18]

I don't want group games at all but if you have then you need to prelim qf so that teams that lose their first 2 games have something to play for.

Talk about rewarding failure,if you lose your first two games in a 3 game format don't let door hit you on the way out. This is the issue one of 3 counties are going win Sam but give the rest loads of game to give them a warm fuzzy feeling.

You're missing the point. It's to stop dead rubbers. No good if theres a team with nothing to play for on the last day. Surely you can work that out.

Maybe after the provincials the 16 Sam teams go into a knock out championship with there being a back door for the first two rounds, Armagh used to do it that way and i thought it worked well. Do the same for the Tailteann.