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#31
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 23, 2018, 07:16:29 PM
Think it was RSF Henry Owens who organised it but all the local politicians tripping over themselves to speak " compassionately "

Eugene Murphy  ( and I don't rate Him as a public rep at all)  i feel is trying to act in famly best interest  but at this stage the family are nearly a side show.  They should have st least met David Hall when he travelled down
#32
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 20, 2018, 10:57:35 PM
Kinda like the national debt
#33
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 20, 2018, 07:03:35 PM
He's also become a scurrilous developer, couldn't be a farmer as some lad in Bangor error hadn't heard of him and refused to pay local small businesses....

Facts are as scarce as Sam Maguire trips to either Mayo or Roscommon
#34
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 20, 2018, 05:36:57 PM
I only read the script on the link, listened to nothing
#35
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 20, 2018, 05:05:32 PM
#36
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 18, 2018, 08:44:25 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 18, 2018, 08:25:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 18, 2018, 08:11:16 PM
So what is he then?
I don't know, he might do some farming but farmers don't register for VAT


Some farmers do as per a previous link i posted.....

But you know more than anyone else here and because you don't recognise his name he just became a developer not a farmer....


That's in effect your position... mayo4sam......
#37
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 18, 2018, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on December 18, 2018, 04:02:13 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on December 18, 2018, 03:49:10 PM
Yours is one of the more reasoned positions online.


But to those who castigate him for a debt to a local quarry / concrete supplier, you should really check out who the biggest non payers in Nort Ross are....

And they managed to sell the hotels to a friendly consortium

I'd say you know a lot more about this man than you're letting on. Afraid the truth will paint him in the light he actually deserves??

as above read when i last met Anthony McGann.....
he's a grown man and has bigger concerns than what light anonymous internet posters paint him...
most people who follow Ross football would know one or more members of the family,  lifelong Rossie and Strokestown supporters.....

#38
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 18, 2018, 03:49:10 PM
Yours is one of the more reasoned positions online.


But to those who castigate him for a debt to a local quarry / concrete supplier, you should really check out who the biggest non payers in Nort Ross are....

And they managed to sell the hotels to a friendly consortium
#39
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 18, 2018, 03:11:12 PM
A lot of idle speculation here and elsewhere.

Who knows what way this man's mind has beenn or what irrational pressures he has helped put himself under.....

But the cheap easy way is to routinely nlacken and label fraudster criminal and whatever your having uourself.


I haven't met the man in question since his late mothers  funeral over 3 years ago, I grew up with an  older brother,  uninvolved in this, and I don't claim to know the facts so I find it ironic total strangers feel qualified to judge and hang
#40
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 18, 2018, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 18, 2018, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on December 18, 2018, 02:33:39 PM
I don't do speculation. And I havevrepeatefky said I don't know how the vat Bill came about.

He may have been agri contracting perhaps.

The vat Bill didn't get him evicted though so us s total side show
You've repeatedly said he's just a farmer when the facts point against that.

Contracting could be a reasonable guess, it would be a major coincidence that it came at the start of the recession, but it is possible. It wood take massive mismanagement also.

Whatever the case, he owes a lot of money, he clearly hasn't engaged with the banks or revenue or the quarry. When that happens your property gets repossessed

No I repeatedly said he wasnta  developer and tgat he didn't hsve 500 acres, 2 points which you were determined to present as fact.

I have also repeatedly said I can't explain VAT, but this is about a bank sponsored eviction not a revenue order.....

#41
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 18, 2018, 02:33:39 PM
I don't do speculation. And I havevrepeatefky said I don't know how the vat Bill came about.

He may have been agri contracting perhaps.

The vat Bill didn't get him evicted though so us s total side show
#42
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 18, 2018, 01:56:13 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 18, 2018, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on December 18, 2018, 12:41:24 PM
you are talking in excess of 500 acres..............based on what. Mcganns farm is closer to the 200+ acres I alluded to and where are the stories of buying and selling .... all the media reports are re mortgages on the land, nothing about buying land

Only one landowner in the strokestown parish has that amount of land you refer to............ the Hanly family who would be known to have a fair few debts themselves with financial institutions, rumours of up to maybe 250 million area.............

You don't rack up a VAT bill by mortgaging lands. I did sums a few posts back that would need sales of €800k.

There is no farming explanation for a VAT bill this size as a farmer

So you  still claiming he owns 500 acres plus are you
#43
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
December 18, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
gary Neville surely


he had the power to save Jose earlier in season i read here
#44
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 18, 2018, 12:41:24 PM
you are talking in excess of 500 acres..............based on what. Mcganns farm is closer to the 200+ acres I alluded to and where are the stories of buying and selling .... all the media reports are re mortgages on the land, nothing about buying land

Only one landowner in the strokestown parish has that amount of land you refer to............ the Hanly family who would be known to have a fair few debts themselves with financial institutions, rumours of up to maybe 250 million area.............
#45
General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
December 18, 2018, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 18, 2018, 12:00:37 PM
We can claim back vat on all capital expenditures including fencing but excluding repairs.
Farmers would never register for VAT unless there's off farm activity which would require it

If you want to stick ur head in the sand fair enough but these things don't add up to this being just a farmer.

You commented earlier that the five folios might only be an acre or two each. But at the same time he has sales of at least a million from just farming? It doesn't add up. If he was a farmer of that size we'd have heard of him in Mayo, people know about huge farmers like that. It just doesn't add up

so you know every farmer in Roscommon with in excess of say 200 acres..... "we'd have heard of him"......  my hole