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GAA Discussion / Re: Marc ” Sť vs Sean Cavanagh
« on: Today at 02:56:50 PM »
How does anyone know what SeanC said or didnt say to MickeyH in his last few years as captain of Tyrone?

The players who were there would know
Well neither O'Se nor Canavan were there when Cav has been captain. Have others said it?

Given that mickey Harte runs to his media friends  when under pressure, and there was no "expose" I would be firmly of opinion Cavanagh never challenged him

I'm not a fan if either man despite a deep respect for many people in the Moy

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GAA Discussion / Re: Marc ” Sť vs Sean Cavanagh
« on: Today at 02:47:42 PM »
How does anyone know what SeanC said or didnt say to MickeyH in his last few years as captain of Tyrone?


I would venture the cowardly shite said SFA......

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Ryan McHugh a joy to watch in full flow. Super goal.

Fermanagh played a bit of football after it in fairness, but Donegal are too good

Donegal are average enough. It doesnít speak well for the level of Ulster football that they appear to be a level above everyone else.

After the shite we have watched this year it's a fair cocky Rossie that could call Donegal average enough....

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: June 22, 2018, 11:42:31 PM »
Mayo hasn't got 25% of the non Unionist population.


So explain the lack of hurling success then.......
Mayo 's?  ;D

Dublin were around Antrim's level at hurling from the mid 600 to this decade.
This decade they've won  Leinster, a NHL, we're in hard luck not to have made an AI Final and have won a scatter if Leinster Minor and U21s too.
Ido say that's a lot of success after 5 barren decades.
Of the 39,000 registered GAA players in Dublin how many would be primarily hurlers.


Dublin have won 4 provincial u21 in 12  years......5 minor in 13 years......... it's significant progress but if it was as simple as money and gpos surely there Would be an all Ireland minor or u21 if not senior at this stage........... i watched carlow u21s beat a much hyped Dublin u21team in the midst of those "glory " years too

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: June 22, 2018, 05:44:28 PM »
Mayo hasn't got 25% of the non Unionist population.


So explain the lack of hurling success then.......

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Collect Tally, poacher, Gallagher and all others who coach not to lose....

And export them to rockall

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GAA Discussion / Re: Concerned Gaels
« on: June 20, 2018, 08:29:08 PM »
I come into this as someone who as a child helped carry blankets  at half time in matches to fundraise for poliical prisoners. My father had considerable gaa officialdom resistance in organiding this  but  totally ignored it as he knew Denis Conroy and Frank Murphy together with most Northern Central council were supportive...

38 years later I see what happened then as totally wrong and it was politicising sport which is wrong.

I have no more objection to Palestinian or Israeli flags than i have to the annoying snd historically inappropriate usage of confederate ones by cork.....

None shoukd be allowed flown imho and yes that is s  is s serious change of opinion over a lifetime..... mostly these things might be deemed valid st the time but they look foolish when viewed through the prism of history......

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: June 20, 2018, 12:42:28 PM »
Longballin is a Tyrone man and I am s rossie vexiled  in Limerick yet we can  see Dublins championship success is down to panel quality not location of games....

And I believe if Dublin had to play Mayo in Castlebar  the result would be the same every time.....

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:05:14 PM »
Its beyond straw clutching .

It's classic eternal loser mindset of trying to make excuses for the winning team .....

It's an annual snorefest which was never mentioned between 1995 and 2011 by most...

Ewan McKenna wannabes

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:00:32 PM »
Do people really deep down honestly believe that  this  Dublin  team would have lost any of their matches pre semi final in the last few years outside of Croker

Straw clutching I feel by those dreaming of Dublin losing matches.....
It's not the point
The last time they were in Longford they barely got out

So how many Leinster champ games or indeed all Ireland quarters since 2011 do you think they would have lost if not in Croker????

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She wore blue and red too.

Always has the union Jack thong on.......

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: June 19, 2018, 10:43:08 PM »
Do people really deep down honestly believe that  this  Dublin  team would have lost any of their matches pre semi final in the last few years outside of Croker

Straw clutching I feel by those dreaming of Dublin losing matches.....

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GAA Discussion / Re: Redux Connacht final 2018 thread
« on: June 19, 2018, 02:37:28 PM »
Ros hit 14 wides. If that was Mayo everybody would go to town on the shit forwards. Maybe Ros forwards are not as good as they're supposed to be.

I think their forwards are still pretty good for the most part but their shot selection in the 2nd half was deplorable. Shooting from way out or out on the wing when they had a strong wind behind them. It felt like they thought the wind would do all the work for them rather than working the ball a bit closer to goal.

Ultimately if you lose a half of football 0-11 to 1-1 you probably donít deserve it on the day.

I'm sure some of the Rossies can put me right but I can't recall on Sunday any of their forwards kicking a score with their weaker foot or even attempting it? Its hard to tell from Shane Walsh that his left foot is weaker and Ian Burke too is very strong on his left and kicked a score with his weaker foot near the end. Comer kicked a great score with his left against Mayo and Heaney kicked scores from both feet during the league.

I can recall Kieran Shannon doing an article on it a few years ago as he thought that was the big difference between Dublin & Mayo's forwards.

Given we only had 8 scores............ no we didnt

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GAA Discussion / Re: Redux Connacht final 2018 thread
« on: June 19, 2018, 02:28:56 PM »
I know brolly Labour's the point but just because it's brolly saying it doesn't mean he is wrong about the "tactics" used by coaches like Tally and Poacher....

Nothing wrong with the tactics used by Poacher and Tally.

Carlow are having their best couple of season in God knows how long and now Galway are beginning to get a bit of respect and relative success to previous years.

It's competitive sport, teams should focus on what makes their team more formidable and more competitive and they should not care a jot about what some envious onlookers think. If they think the game should be played a different way then that's up to them but there is no appointee that should be telling others how their teams should be playing.

You show me someone who'd rather have their team play nice football and ship a heavy beating than someone who will set their team up to give them the best chance to win and I will show you a liar. The reason Galway play the way they do is because they have severe deficiencies in ther back lin, it was brought up big time in their visits to Croke Park the last couple of years. They still have those deficienes but the way they play minimises them.

The thing Brolly et all fail to understand that GAA is not an entertainment business, it's competition, it's competitive sport. Defensively set up teams are not one bit a problem in my eye, a far bigger issue is that there is a growing gulf between the top teams and the lesser teams and that is biggest concern in GAA at present.

I hate Dublin being pointed out for the nice football they play - look at the players they have, the resources they have (financially and infrastructure), the facilities they have, the lifestlyes their players are able to live in comparison to teams from smaller counties who may be required to a) actually work and b)move away for work and carry out big commutes to make training. Of course Dublin are going to be another realm to any other team.


We'll beg to differ on the merits of Poacher style tactics when you see tools of coaches from u12 aping them and setting juvenile teams up not to lose.. ( by too much)

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GAA Discussion / Re: Redux Connacht final 2018 thread
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:30:56 AM »
I know brolly Labour's the point but just because it's brolly saying it doesn't mean he is wrong about the "tactics" used by coaches like Tally and Poacher....



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