Great piece by Jude Collins
http://www.judecollins.com/2019/01/ruth-dudley-edwards-a-brain-to-be-reckoned-with/ (http://www.judecollins.com/2019/01/ruth-dudley-edwards-a-brain-to-be-reckoned-with/)
Now that Stephen Hawking has left us, the hunt is on for an intellect of comparable size to shine its light and lead the rest of us dullards through the minefield of Life. You may say "There's only one Stephen Hawking" and you'd be right. But be of good cheer. His successor in the brain cells department is obvious and, best of all, one of our own. I'm referring, of course, to Ruth Dudley Edwards.
As far back as the 1960s at UCD, Ruth was known for the size of her brain. The Derry boys, who used to cluster around a radiator by the main door, would gasp when Ruth made an entrance. "Would you look at the size of that!" they would whisper to each other in awe, as Ruth make her way across the black-and-white tiles to a lecture hall.
Further evidence of the size and attractive shape of Ruth's brain was provided by her choice of subject (History) and choice of parent (her father was Professor of – yes indeed, Virginia – History). She also used her enormous brain to attach herself to another student of History called Paddy Cosgrave, who resembled a more youthful Mr Burns from the yet-to-be-created Simpsons but who had a brain, some claimed, even bigger than Ruth's. A year after Ruth's graduation, they married and the pooling of brain power was made permanent. Well, sort of.
They moved to England, where Paddy (now 'Patrick') became well-known for his right-wing views and in particular for his admiration of a woman called Margaret Thatcher. He was so impressed by her (no, I don't know if Thatcher had a bigger brain than Ruth or Paddy, Virginia – probably not) that he wrote a reverential biography of her which unkind critics declared a hagiography. Thatcher seemed to take a shine to the man formerly known as Paddy, and he was tipped to be given a safe Conservative seat in Parliament and even a place in a future Thatcher cabinet. But alas, Paddy took to the drink and, Private Eye alleged, ended his political career in spectacular fashion when, emerging from a taxi containing the Iron Lady, he vomited over her lap. Sic transit gloria Paddy.
But that's getting away from our subject. Ruth went to Oxbridge and later wrote all sorts of history books, including one showing how unbalanced a creature P H Pearse really was and another what a fine institution the Orange Order really was.
With age Ruth's brain has, if anything, expanded. To the best of my knowledge she has lived her life in England, but that hasn't prevented her using her magnificent organ to explain the Irish situation to the Irish people. Her glittering grey cells transform complicated and many-stranded issues to an elegant simplicity : if it's republican it's bloodthirsty and bad, if it's British / unionist it's law-abiding and good. That's a truly mammoth brain at work.
It can surely only be a matter of time – perhaps before the end of this coming year – before Her Majesty rewards Ruth's oversize organ with a peerage, or President Higgins places the gold torc around her unique neck and welcomes her to the ranks of Aosdána. There is no truth to the rumour that the torc would have to be expanded first to fit over her head.
Great
Good one ;D
Jude would know plenty about blatant shilling masquerading as journalism alright.
I could have written that with one sentence
Ruth Dudley Edwards is a Cnut.
Cant stand the bigoted old boot
I've no time for RDE obviously but thast piece is nothing special. A bit childish really.
Jude Collins ffs
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.
Jude is a hired gun so I doubt he decided to do it off his own bat
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.
How on earth is any of what you've described comparable?
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 03, 2019, 11:38:53 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.
Jude is a hired gun so I doubt he decided to do it off his own bat
Correct - he's on the payroll, similar to Chris Donnelly.
Why give Dudley Edwards any more attention than she already craves. Her views are backward and bigoted but they are best ignored rather than give her the oxygen of publicity.
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:53 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 03, 2019, 11:38:53 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.
Jude is a hired gun so I doubt he decided to do it off his own bat
Correct - he's on the payroll, similar to Chris Donnelly.
Great political analysis ::)
RDE wrote a piece slating Jude during the week. This appears to be a personal riposte.
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:23 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:53 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 03, 2019, 11:38:53 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.
Jude is a hired gun so I doubt he decided to do it off his own bat
Correct - he's on the payroll, similar to Chris Donnelly.
Great political analysis ::)
RDE wrote a piece slating Jude during the week. This appears to be a personal riposte.
That may be so. But I stand over my analysis of him. An awful person.
Quote from: Itchy on January 03, 2019, 10:24:05 AM
I could have written that with one sentence
Ruth Dudley Edwards is a Cnut.
I'd like to second that. Through the chair, of course.
RDE
THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century
Quote from: Orchard park on January 03, 2019, 12:18:51 PM
RDE
THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century
And as far as I recall, while he tried to cuddle up to them the unionists of the day jettisoned him out of their sheer bigotry.
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.
How on earth is any of what you've described comparable?
Insulting someone because of their political views.
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
Pantomime fun time. ' oh no he didn't '.
As for RDE, just a sad irrelevant nobody.
Michelle O'Neill, Mary Lou or even Arlene Foster have political views, but they also have to make some effort to put forward a plan to achieve their political objectives. The likes of RDE just snipes from the sideline, never putting forward solutions, only sneers. However, someone else sneering at her isn't really a step forward either.
Quote from: Orior on January 03, 2019, 12:50:47 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on January 03, 2019, 12:18:51 PM
RDE
THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century
And as far as I recall, while he tried to cuddle up to them the unionists of the day jettisoned him out of their sheer bigotry.
30 years ago
unbelievable.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/margaret-thatcher-s-ag-woke-from-surgery-screaming-we-must-kill-ian-paisley-1.3737029
Gow told the diplomat that he had no "spark of hope" that he could get any of the unionist leaders to "show any courage or leadership".
"They are all awful," he said.
Now they are even worse
Quote from: yellowcard on January 03, 2019, 11:42:21 AM
Why give Dudley Edwards any more attention than she already craves. Her views are backward and bigoted but they are best ignored rather than give her the oxygen of publicity.
I would be in favour of cutting off all types of Oxygen. A one dimensional prehistoric waste of space.
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 03, 2019, 02:10:49 PM
I would be in favour of cutting off all types of Oxygen. A one dimensional prehistoric waste of space.
And Ruth Dudley Edwards is not much better.
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 01:01:04 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.
How on earth is any of what you've described comparable?
Insulting someone because of their political views.
Jude Collins isn't a newspaper.
RDE isn't an elected representative.
Quote from: seafoid on January 03, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
Gow told the diplomat that he had no "spark of hope" that he could get any of the unionist leaders to "show any courage or leadership".
"They are all awful," he said.
and Gow was about as pro unionist as anyone in the Tory Party.
Quote from: Orior on January 03, 2019, 12:50:47 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on January 03, 2019, 12:18:51 PM
RDE
THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century
And as far as I recall, while he tried to cuddle up to them the unionists of the day jettisoned him out of their sheer bigotry.
Correct, he had the cheek to suggest unionism should consider a united ireland as a way to undermine sinn fein. He got a swift boot out for that.
Quote from: seafoid on January 03, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 03, 2019, 12:50:47 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on January 03, 2019, 12:18:51 PM
RDE
THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century
And as far as I recall, while he tried to cuddle up to them the unionists of the day jettisoned him out of their sheer bigotry.
30 years ago
unbelievable.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/margaret-thatcher-s-ag-woke-from-surgery-screaming-we-must-kill-ian-paisley-1.3737029
Gow told the diplomat that he had no "spark of hope" that he could get any of the unionist leaders to "show any courage or leadership".
"They are all awful," he said.
Now they are even worse
Which is great, for every time the mediocre provincial solicitor (and apparently only victim of the Troubles) opens her mouth, the Irish people move closer to getting their whole country back.
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html
Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".
"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.
You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 03, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html
Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".
"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.
You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?
Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?
This thread is embarrassing.
Quote from: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 03, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html
Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".
"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.
You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?
Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?
So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means? What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 04, 2019, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 03, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html
Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".
"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.
You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?
Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?
So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means? What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?
It was horrible and shocking??
To get this straight, people say or write something, and I am not allowed to interpret what it means? Is that what you are saying? You do understand how communication and language works?
Quote from: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:53:18 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 04, 2019, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 03, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html
Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".
"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.
You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?
Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?
So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means? What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?
It was horrible and shocking??
To get this straight, people say or write something, and I am not allowed to interpret what it means? Is that what you are saying? You do understand how communication and language works?
I'll rephrase you take a direct quote and said he said something else..you should clarify your original post to say..I interpreted a quote of his and in my opinion he insinuates that Patsy deserved it.
Did the IRA say working for security forces made you a target..yes. Did many people decide that was a risk..yes. so was Pasty unlike many others yes. Does that mean he deserved it..No. I think you need to whip out the Oxford dictionary/thesarus and look up each word in that quote.
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 04, 2019, 09:59:24 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:53:18 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 04, 2019, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 03, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html
Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".
"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.
You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?
Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?
So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means? What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?
It was horrible and shocking??
To get this straight, people say or write something, and I am not allowed to interpret what it means? Is that what you are saying? You do understand how communication and language works?
I'll rephrase you take a direct quote and said he said something else..you should clarify your original post to say..I interpreted a quote of his and in my opinion he insinuates that Patsy deserved it.
Did the IRA say working for security forces made you a target..yes. Did many people decide that was a risk..yes. so was Pasty unlike many others yes. Does that mean he deserved it..No. I think you need to whip out the Oxford dictionary/thesarus and look up each word in that quote.
I love the way you just think it's normal everyday conversation just to coolly talk about the murder of a Husband and Father. Jude often just comments ever so matter of fact about one of the most grotesque murders of the troubles. Jude knew what he was doing. His tweet was aimed at causing maximum suffering and pain on the family. Sometimes I think I'm in an episode of the Brady bunch. Imagine defending Jude Collins.
Quote from: trailer on January 04, 2019, 10:47:09 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 04, 2019, 09:59:24 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:53:18 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 04, 2019, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 03, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.
Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html
Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".
"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.
You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?
Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?
So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means? What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?
It was horrible and shocking??
To get this straight, people say or write something, and I am not allowed to interpret what it means? Is that what you are saying? You do understand how communication and language works?
I'll rephrase you take a direct quote and said he said something else..you should clarify your original post to say..I interpreted a quote of his and in my opinion he insinuates that Patsy deserved it.
Did the IRA say working for security forces made you a target..yes. Did many people decide that was a risk..yes. so was Pasty unlike many others yes. Does that mean he deserved it..No. I think you need to whip out the Oxford dictionary/thesarus and look up each word in that quote.
I love the way you just think it's normal everyday conversation just to coolly talk about the murder of a Husband and Father. Jude often just comments ever so matter of fact about one of the most grotesque murders of the troubles. Jude knew what he was doing. His tweet was aimed at causing maximum suffering and pain on the family. Sometimes I think I'm in an episode of the Brady bunch. Imagine defending Jude Collins.
I'm not defending him. I think his comments r.e..the omagh bomb and Mary tracers were both grotesque. However I will also call someome out spouting lies about what someone did or did not say if they aren't going to clarify in the original post what the quote was and what their interpretation of it was which you are very much entitled too. But for others you should at least use the direct quote rather than blindly saying he did say that.
Thought it a very poor article. Just a lot of innuendo, and going for the person and not even trying to go for the ball. There is plenty to show her up for. Jude the only one shown up by that article
Ruth is the person who wrote article after article viciously attacking film director Ken Loach and the film the Wind that Shakes the Barley.
It turned out that she hadn't even viewed the film ;D
Hard to credit that someone so academically corrupt and vacuous gets a platform on national newspapers.
Quote from: Main Street on January 05, 2019, 12:02:44 AM
Ruth is the person who wrote article after article viciously attacking film director Ken Loach and the film the Wind that Shakes the Barley.
It turned out that she hadn't even viewed the film ;D
Hard to credit that someone so academically corrupt and vacuous gets a platform on national newspapers.
This is it. She is trying to be controversial for the sake of it, like thon other idiot katie Hopkins. At the heart of it all, i'd wager she doesnt even believe half the tripe she writes.
Dudley Edwards at it again. These days the focus of her hate filled drivel appears to be John Finucane. In Monday's Belfast Telegraph she chastises John because of the company he keeps. That company is Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin, who are all members of the political party of which John is a member.
Extract...
QuoteI'd love to believe that Sinn Fein are genuine about reconciliation, but they don't half make it difficult. Just look at last week and the meeting of Sinn Fein's North Belfast constituency members to select John Finucane as their candidate for the next general election to defeat the DUP's Nigel Dodds.
Mr Finucane is even being tipped as a future Irish President. Clearly, Sinn Fein think he's very special.
I watched a video of the meeting, which began with Mr Finucane striding into the crowded room ahead of Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin.
For someone who assures us he reaches out to unionists, craves equality for all and is hoping to win over the centre ground, his companions should have been a bit of an embarrassment.
Murphy was sentenced in 1982 to five years for possession of explosives and IRA membership; after a 1973 London bombing campaign, Kelly was sentenced to two life sentences, plus 20 years, and during a violent mass escape in 1983, shot a prison officer in the head and then went on the run; and Ni Chuilin was arrested in 1989 after trying to place a booby-trap bomb at an RUC station and was sentenced to eight years.
Now, we should be prepared to allow people to put their pasts behind them.
But when you've been involved in violent criminality, it's hardly unreasonable to expect from you some degree of contrition before you're welcomed into the fold.
....
Quote from: Orior on October 01, 2019, 09:37:04 AM
Dudley Edwards at it again. These days the focus of her hate filled drivel appears to be John Finucane. In Monday's Belfast Telegraph she chastises John because of the company he keeps. That company is Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin, who are all members of the political party of which John is a member.
Extract...
QuoteI'd love to believe that Sinn Fein are genuine about reconciliation, but they don't half make it difficult. Just look at last week and the meeting of Sinn Fein's North Belfast constituency members to select John Finucane as their candidate for the next general election to defeat the DUP's Nigel Dodds.
Mr Finucane is even being tipped as a future Irish President. Clearly, Sinn Fein think he's very special.
I watched a video of the meeting, which began with Mr Finucane striding into the crowded room ahead of Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin.
For someone who assures us he reaches out to unionists, craves equality for all and is hoping to win over the centre ground, his companions should have been a bit of an embarrassment.
Murphy was sentenced in 1982 to five years for possession of explosives and IRA membership; after a 1973 London bombing campaign, Kelly was sentenced to two life sentences, plus 20 years, and during a violent mass escape in 1983, shot a prison officer in the head and then went on the run; and Ni Chuilin was arrested in 1989 after trying to place a booby-trap bomb at an RUC station and was sentenced to eight years.
Now, we should be prepared to allow people to put their pasts behind them.
But when you've been involved in violent criminality, it's hardly unreasonable to expect from you some degree of contrition before you're welcomed into the fold.
....
I heard she was being sued for libel by the Finucanes over a Twitter post a while back.If she's done for that then it'll come out of the twisted oul hag's own bank account, not that of the papers that pay for her awful drivel. She really is an odious human being.
Her tweets on finucane were rough and pretty disgusting.
Quote from: armaghniac on January 03, 2019, 02:04:58 PM
Michelle O'Neill, Mary Lou or even Arlene Foster have political views, but they also have to make some effort to put forward a plan to achieve their political objectives. The likes of RDE just snipes from the sideline, never putting forward solutions, only sneers. However, someone else sneering at her isn't really a step forward either.
+1 !
I'd honestly say RDE's readership is in single figures and,apart from her good self of course, nobody gives a damn one way or the other.
Quote from: red hander on October 01, 2019, 05:39:01 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 01, 2019, 09:37:04 AM
Dudley Edwards at it again. These days the focus of her hate filled drivel appears to be John Finucane. In Monday's Belfast Telegraph she chastises John because of the company he keeps. That company is Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin, who are all members of the political party of which John is a member.
Extract...
QuoteI'd love to believe that Sinn Fein are genuine about reconciliation, but they don't half make it difficult. Just look at last week and the meeting of Sinn Fein's North Belfast constituency members to select John Finucane as their candidate for the next general election to defeat the DUP's Nigel Dodds.
Mr Finucane is even being tipped as a future Irish President. Clearly, Sinn Fein think he's very special.
I watched a video of the meeting, which began with Mr Finucane striding into the crowded room ahead of Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin.
For someone who assures us he reaches out to unionists, craves equality for all and is hoping to win over the centre ground, his companions should have been a bit of an embarrassment.
Murphy was sentenced in 1982 to five years for possession of explosives and IRA membership; after a 1973 London bombing campaign, Kelly was sentenced to two life sentences, plus 20 years, and during a violent mass escape in 1983, shot a prison officer in the head and then went on the run; and Ni Chuilin was arrested in 1989 after trying to place a booby-trap bomb at an RUC station and was sentenced to eight years.
Now, we should be prepared to allow people to put their pasts behind them.
But when you've been involved in violent criminality, it's hardly unreasonable to expect from you some degree of contrition before you're welcomed into the fold.
....
I heard she was being sued for libel by the Finucanes over a Twitter post a while back.If she's done for that then it'll come out of the twisted oul hag's own bank account, not that of the papers that pay for her awful drivel. She really is an odious human being.
The Edwards tweet in May this year "Like his father. An apologist for the IRA" looked to be a repeat of what she wrote in the Indo a few years back which the paper lost a court case about and had to pay out over €500,000 to the Finucane foundation. She's even dumber than I had reckoned with.
She'll probably use the contents of the article in the Daily Gail as part of her defence to any libel. But, ironically, the Finucanes could also use it as evidence of obsessive, harassing behaviour against the family despite the fact she has been found to have committed defamation in the past. I really hope they take the old bastard for every penny she has and finally put her out of her misery.
Is Owen her husband? He's in Fivemiletown on 15th October
https://www.facebook.com/CarletonSociety/photos/pcb.2710961018934181/2710960445600905/?type=3&theater
Quote from: Orior on October 02, 2019, 03:45:21 PM
Is Owen her husband? He's in Fivemiletown on 15th October
https://www.facebook.com/CarletonSociety/photos/pcb.2710961018934181/2710960445600905/?type=3&theater
Brother
Quote from: dec on October 02, 2019, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 02, 2019, 03:45:21 PM
Is Owen her husband? He's in Fivemiletown on 15th October
https://www.facebook.com/CarletonSociety/photos/pcb.2710961018934181/2710960445600905/?type=3&theater
Brother
He wore a cravat 😮
Harris might have been sidelined, but RDE continues to produce crap.
Text deleted for being bollix.
Wtf are we doing republishing her vile spew?
Quote from: StPatsAbu on May 21, 2021, 12:38:44 AM
Wtf are we doing republishing her vile spew?
When you are right, you are right.
Quote from: StPatsAbu on May 21, 2021, 12:38:44 AM
Wtf are we doing republishing her vile spew?
I can't even remember creating this thread.
Close it down so.
Can this hateful hoor get any lower?
I think you all need to be aware of the crap Dudley Edwards puts out and which is loved by loyalists, unionists and west brits.
QuoteAs much as any Pope, President Michael D Higgins believes himself infallible.
Published: 4 October 2021
Yet his recent behaviour has had an utterly toxic effect on relationships between nationalists and unionists in this centenary year. It has forced hidden hatreds into the open and delivered yet another probably fatal blow to United Irelanders.
As a furious Unionist friend – who has spent years seeking to assist north-south understanding – said to me on the phone at the beginning of the row: "That's what they think of us. We don't even exist."
Northern Irish people who had come to think that "unionists and nationalists can talk away their differences until a change of sovereignty becomes as easy and seamless as changing one's socks," said the commentator Owen Polley, had exposed themselves "to all kinds of nonsense about a 'new Ireland' where Britishness will be one of a range of identities that are respected and cherished".
For them, "Higgins' behaviour is a shock and a blow".
The artist and writer Brian John Spencer, whose years of trying to understand southern viewpoints and connect with them took him to every county on the island, was one of those: "Reconciliation and parity of esteem, as far as I can see, is dead. This episode has completely turned my view of the Republic of Ireland and all their traditions and norms upside down. I will not be the same sympathetic and curious person."
I have been around longer than Spencer, and I wasn't surprised. Nor was Polley: "For those of us who have been paying attention, it's no surprise that the Irish republic is as mired as ever in its foundational myths and hatreds. I'm what they hate: I'll notice when they stop and will let you know."
He recommended unionists keep listening to Michael D Higgins. He reveals that the "'new Ireland' is much like the old one, but smugger; it retains the same attitudes, even if its anti- unionist, anti-British prejudices are cloaked in condescension and bad poetry".
Although my background was broadly Catholic-nationalist, and my first 21 years were spent in Dublin, when in the 1970s I began to take a serious interest in the politics of Northern Ireland, it seemed to me blindingly obvious that the way to persuade unionists of the merits of united Ireland was not to try to terrorise them into it.
Although I hadn't yet come across the word "thrawn", I had learned enough from my reading of history and politics to grasp that Ulster Protestants had a tradition of dogged, stubborn resistance to bullies. It was mystifying to me that Irish nationalists not only paid no attention whatsoever to the warning from Edward Carson that "Ulster might be wooed by sympathetic understanding – she can never be coerced," but to varying degrees endorsed the opposite, self-defeating strategy.
It was Prime Minister James Craig who in talks in 1922 with Michael Collins quoted that warning, but although they signed a peace pact, and Collins was not stupid, his priority was to avoid a split in the IRA so he supported a brutal covert campaign against Northern Ireland, which entrenched sectarianism and hatred and began a century of needless suffering.
Protestant unionists became ever more obdurate, and Irish nationalists wallowed in self-pity and self-delusion.
The majority of southern Irish people have not bothered to get to know Northern Ireland or its people, though they don't like them – nationalist or unionist – and frequently betray latent Anglophobia. Their idea of a united Ireland is a re-branding with no changes to the Republic.
Higgins' bigotry has brought this into the open. The Irish Times journalist Fintan O'Toole addressed it bluntly. Speaking of the "fabulous Irish capacity for doublethink", or "cognitive dissonance", he reminded his readers of the 2019 exit poll which asked two key questions.
Asked how important the Irish language was to them on a scale of one to 10, 60% chose seven or above – yet 67% of those who could speak it, never did.
Similarly, 65% would vote in favour "if there was a referendum on a United Ireland tomorrow" – yet successive polls show that this support drops by around half if it would require higher taxes.
Let alone substantial changes to the Irish constitution.
The commentator Andrew Devine, from the Republic but of mixed roots, wrote of the reality that most nationalists have a "sneering and contemptuous attitude" to those of a British or Irish-British identity, who would be given no respect "in the kind of united Ireland marketed by Sinn Fein and the petit communist President who sits in Aras an Uachtarain."
Last Saturday, in The Guardian, which is pro-nationalist, that fine Irish best-selling novelist Colm Toibin answered the proposition that Brexit would lead to a united Ireland by dismissing the idea as "mystical blather".
Politicians were talking rubbish; "In this united Ireland of theirs, that will occur in their lifetimes, do they intend to foist the dysfunctional health system and the appalling housing crisis that exist in the Republic on the people of Northern Ireland? Do they want to import sectarian hatred and the politics of perpetual grievance from the north into the south?"
Higgins did unionists a favour. They can cease worrying about a border poll and focus their attention on sorting out the protocol.
As always RDE ascribes the purest and noblest of intentions to the poor, put-upon unionist community, and the most malign, deceitful motives to the nationalist side.
Unionism is trína chéile
1. Brexit is failing
2. The Shinners will capture the First Minister position
3. The DUP is in meltdown
4. London does not care
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2021, 05:09:03 PM
As always RDE ascribes the purest and noblest of intentions to the poor, put-upon unionist community, and the most malign, deceitful motives to the nationalist side.
Both as one homogeneous bloc.
Unionism as represented by "commentator" Owen Polleu.
I see she's quoting Andrew Devine who's now a commentator also
Andrew also goes by the name Andrew Rhatigan and Andrew Devine Rhatigan and seems to have a multiple number of addresses in the Republic when he clogs up the letters to the Editor section in the Sunday Times telling us how lucky we were to had to have the Black and Tans protecting us and why we should be grateful if we decided to re-unite with the UK.
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2021, 05:09:03 PM
As always RDE ascribes the purest and noblest of intentions to the poor, put-upon unionist community, and the most malign, deceitful motives to the nationalist side.
She's a hateful tart, of the same ilk as Kate Hoey.
I still think it was a mistake by Michael D not to attend though.
Of course she's completely ignoring the fact he didn't attend the 1916 stuff in Belfast either.
Quote from: mouview on October 06, 2021, 12:41:48 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2021, 05:09:03 PM
As always RDE ascribes the purest and noblest of intentions to the poor, put-upon unionist community, and the most malign, deceitful motives to the nationalist side.
She's a hateful tart, of the same ilk as Kate Hoey.
I still think it was a mistake by Michael D not to attend though.
Important hypothetical question.
====================
You're the last man on earth and RDE and Hoey are the last of the 'female' gender.
The human race will be extinct unless you mate.
Who would you do first?
The world would be better off extinct.
Quote from: Orior on October 06, 2021, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: mouview on October 06, 2021, 12:41:48 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2021, 05:09:03 PM
As always RDE ascribes the purest and noblest of intentions to the poor, put-upon unionist community, and the most malign, deceitful motives to the nationalist side.
She's a hateful tart, of the same ilk as Kate Hoey.
I still think it was a mistake by Michael D not to attend though.
Important hypothetical question.
====================
You're the last man on earth and RDE and Hoey are the last of the 'female' gender.
The human race will be extinct unless you mate.
Who would you do first?
I'd move somewhere else and have a w**k when the need arose.
Quote from: seafoid on October 05, 2021, 07:04:33 PM
Unionism is trína chéile
1. Brexit is failing
2. The Shinners will capture the First Minister position
3. The DUP is in meltdown
4. London does not care
Brexit in NI isn't failing and that's the biggest issue for Unionism.
The NI Protocol whilst imperfect is protecting NI from the greater harm of the hard brexit Frost and Boris has foisted on GB.
Economically NI is doing well out of it and political commentators need to call out Jeffrey when he spouts these lies on TV that the NI protocol is harming here when patently it isn't.
Exploding Allister give out about businesses extolling the virtues of the protocol, so that tells you all you need to know.
Quote from: johnnycool on October 07, 2021, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 05, 2021, 07:04:33 PM
Unionism is trína chéile
1. Brexit is failing
2. The Shinners will capture the First Minister position
3. The DUP is in meltdown
4. London does not care
Brexit in NI isn't failing and that's the biggest issue for Unionism.
The NI Protocol whilst imperfect is protecting NI from the greater harm of the hard brexit Frost and Boris has foisted on GB.
Economically NI is doing well out of it and political commentators need to call out Jeffrey when he spouts these lies on TV that the NI protocol is harming here when patently it isn't.
Exploding Allister give out about businesses extolling the virtues of the protocol, so that tells you all you need to know.
The protocol is causing some grief but is definitely working to the benefit on the 6 counties at the minute. And you are right, this needs rammed down Jeffrey and Jim's throat every time they open their bakes.
My only slight hesitation is that there is still the potential for mayhem when the grace periods end.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
The journalist (sic) and historian (sic) Ruth Dudley Edwards, tweeted from her high and mighty position that Amanda Ferguson had previously blocked her (which in RDE's clever brain meant that the DUP were justified in banning Amanda from their conference).
Amanda replied that RDE was not blocked, and included a screenshot for proof.
Wonder when fuddly edwards will tweet an apology? lol
A gobshite of the highest order. Vile.
The DUP and RDE have made Amanda Ferguson.
Amanda could not have bought such publicity.
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 10, 2022, 04:01:22 PM
A gobshite of the highest order. Vile.
That's a terrible slur on all decent gobshites, lol.
Quote from: Orior on October 11, 2022, 09:38:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 10, 2022, 04:01:22 PM
A gobshite of the highest order. Vile.
That's a terrible slur on all decent gobshites, lol.
Indeed, a gobshite is a bit of an eejit, not a malign person of some academic ability who is misrepresenting things to become well known.
She's absolutely obsessed with trolling Finucane family, she's an odious ghoul.